Wesley Steinberg
@WesSteinberg
Eye-witness reports from camp today tell me QB Daniel Jones accidentally hit a disabled fan with a misplaced pass. #Giants
Wesley Steinberg
@WesSteinberg
Eye-witness reports from camp today tell me QB Daniel Jones accidentally hit a disabled fan with a misplaced pass. #Giants
Wesley Steinberg
@WesSteinberg
Eye-witness reports from camp today tell me QB Daniel Jones accidentally hit a disabled fan with a misplaced pass. #Giants
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants Daboll - Day 4...pleased with everything ao far..high red zone and fringe (approx 50 yd line situations) today....shells again...sun off and full pads on monday
Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
Daboll: “Cruising right along here.” Today will be fringe red zone work. “Keep hammering on those situations.” Then the physicality will ramp up with the pads on Monday.
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants Daboll - been good competition on the edges...neal is doing well
Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
Daboll said the evaluation process really ramps up Monday when the pads come on. You get a good feel for the guys in the trenches.
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants Daboll - there were some miscommunications on offense fri, but also some really good reads and also the WRs breaking off the right routes, too
Jordan Raanan
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Coach Brian Daboll noted it was a practice of 3rd-and-6 to 3rd-and-9s. Going into that practice they know it’s a tough situation for the offense and success is relatively limited.
Pat Leonard
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Brian Daboll says it’s only day 3, when asked about his tolerance for lack of production on offense. “Let’s not be an instant evaluator,” he said, quoting a mentor. Daboll says he saw some positive things & mistakes both on Friday. Sees it as situational work building to whole.
Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
Daboll said developing a winning identity starts now at training camp. That’s why they put together a detailed plan. It’s about fundamentals and dealing with adversity. “You’re never satisfied.”
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants Daboll - developing a winning identity comes with how you do things right now...have really good focus each period of work...key on fundamentals and technique - even though coaches are never satisfied
Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
Daboll said Feliciano will probably need another day after dealing with a heat-related issue.
Dan Duggan
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Daboll said starting C Jon Feliciano will be out again today as he continues to recover from heat/hydration issues.
Dan Duggan
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Daboll emphasized it’s early in camp. He said evaluations won’t really start until the pads come on Monday. As for the offense’s rough showing yesterday, Daboll stressed that it was a third-and-long focus, which puts them at a disadvantage.
Dan Duggan
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Replying to @DDuggan21
Jamil Douglas again working as the first-team center. Had a rough practice yesterday.
Dan Duggan
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Don’t see TE Ricky Seals-Jones again either. Looks like TE Jordan Akins, DL Nick Williams and LB Darrian Beavers are back after missing yesterday
Art Stapleton
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Shane Lemieux at center with first team in second set of 11/11 drills for two plays.
LT Andrew Thomas
LG Joshua Ezeudu
C Lemieux
RG Mark Glowinski
RT Evan Neal
Pat Leonard
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With C Job Feliciano out 2nd straight day, after 1st series w Jamil Douglas struggling, Brian Daboll tries Shane Lemieux at C, Josh Ezuedu at LG. Daniel Jones, who started practice w a strike to Daniel Bellinger, INT’d in end zone by Dane Belton. Golladay drops a fade vs Adoree.
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants Belton with a spectacular leaping interception of a 50-50 in the middle of the end zone.....followed by AJax with a PD on a right fade to Golladay in back corner of end zone
Tom Rock
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Dane Belton w his first pick of camp, playing CF on a deep post from Jones to Sills. Goes up and gets the ball. Nice play.
Tom Rock
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Jones’ next pass is to Kenny Golladay which he almost catches in the end zone before bobbling it/having it punched out by Adore Jackson. Yells a fan from the stands: “72 million dollars, Golladay!”
Pat Leonard
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Replying to @PLeonardNYDN
Kadarius Toney is out here in uniform, running individuals and walkthrough. But he didn’t participate in the Giants’ first series of 11 on 11s. Brian Daboll seems to be giving him a reduced workload
Tom Rock
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Richie James with a few first team reps. Wide receiver has earned them. Has made lots of nice catches.
Art Stapleton
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Shane Lemieux at center with first team in second set of 11/11 drills for two plays.
LT Andrew Thomas
LG Joshua Ezeudu
C Lemieux
RG Mark Glowinski
RT Evan Neal
Jon Feliciano DNP #Giants
This is the Oline configuration I'm most interested in.
Bobby Skinner
@BobbySkinner_
Shane Lemieux was dominating Dexter Lawrence for a whole series and then started a fight with him. I’m in on Shane Lemieux stock
Wesley Steinberg
@WesSteinberg
Eye-witness reports from camp today tell me QB Daniel Jones accidentally hit a disabled fan with a misplaced pass. #Giants
The guy tweeting probably mistook Golladay for the disabled fan.
Paul Schwartz
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Body blows! Dexter Lawrence leaps on Shane Lemieux in anger. Someone pulls Lawrence off and then Leonard Williams body-slams Lemieux.
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Art Stapleton
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Shane Lemieux at center with first team in second set of 11/11 drills for two plays.
LT Andrew Thomas
LG Joshua Ezeudu
C Lemieux
RG Mark Glowinski
RT Evan Neal
Jon Feliciano DNP #Giants///////
This is the Oline configuration I'm most interested in.
Yeah, Uber, I'd be on board with that. We had speculated in '20, before Lemieux pushed Hernandez to RG, whether he might be tried at C, also a bit of same in '21 before all the injuries hit.
BUF scouted/liked Lemieux at Oregon (?) so Dabs may be and Schoen is familiar with him and may be why he settled in so quickly as LG with 1s in camp. We also discussed here that scouting reports' major negative on SL was lack of quick feet and why C might be a challenge.
Jordan Raanan
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@JordanRaanan
First real fight of #giants training camp. Shane Lemieux, obviously unhappy with something Dexter Lawrence did, comes out of nowhere and tackles Dex. Leonard Williams immediately comes to Lawrence’s defense and pummels/pins Lemieux to the ground.
Dan Duggan
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Replying to @DDuggan21
Shane Lemieux just got a few reps with the 1’s at center. Josh Ezeudu stepped in at LG.
I remember Shane getting a few short looks at C before. This is a good alternative than to go with Douglas. Garcia and Bredeson must not be doing too hot either.
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants Daboll with an excited fistpump as Jones fires a 10yd bullet to crossing Golladay inside the back of the end zone for a TD.
Bobby Skinner
@BobbySkinner_
Quincy Roche is balling at Giants camp today
Justin Penik
@JustinPenik
Todays the most I’ve seen Brian Daboll yell. Offense and defense have been sloppy in some areas and team periods have been mostly hurry up today. Daboll is setting the intensity today.
Bobby Skinner
@BobbySkinner_
Shane Lemieux and Dexter Lawrence just got into it big time AND I LOVE IT https://twitter.com/BobbySkinner_/status/1553397496122167298 - ( New Window )
dunno what one can take from that clip, nothing to see
Pat Leonard
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Haven’t seen Giants rookie CB Cor’Dale Flott out here during entire team period. He’d been working at 2nd string slot in previous days
TE Ricky Seals-Jones is on the sidelines in short and T shirt, not practicing 2nd straight day
Art Stapleton
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Darnay Holmes just punched the ball away from Saquon Barkley for a fumble that Julian Love returned in the direction of the house.
Four practices, three picks and forced fumble for Darnay. #Giants
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants Daboll with an excited fistpump as Jones fires a 10yd bullet to crossing Golladay inside the back of the end zone for a TD.
Bobby Skinner
@BobbySkinner_
Quincy Roche is balling at Giants camp today
Targeting a big catch radius receiver in the red zone? You might as well run or pass on 3rd down!
Dottino (not a real beat reporter) and the Talkin Giants guys, very few updates on the actual practice.....is this their way of protesting the new rule of no video?
to TC, when one side of the ball makes a play, you are worried about the other side.
I don’t think it was a bad throw so much as forcing the ball downfield. Dabbol has said that he wants DJ taking chances and this looked like that. I’m fine with it, not just a bad toss over the middle or something like that.
I don’t think it was a bad throw so much as forcing the ball downfield. Dabbol has said that he wants DJ taking chances and this looked like that. I’m fine with it, not just a bad toss over the middle or something like that.
armstead98, agree that's the way it looked to me too, and if that was called as a 3rd down throw deep, the 'as good as a punt' notion, grimace.
That said, both on that throw and the TD to Golladay crossing along the endline, seemed as though Jones held the ball long time, dunno if pocket would have held that long. Again, depends whether the drill's focus was to ignore going to shorter route receivers.
I don’t think it was a bad throw so much as forcing the ball downfield. Dabbol has said that he wants DJ taking chances and this looked like that. I’m fine with it, not just a bad toss over the middle or something like that.
armstead98, agree that's the way it looked to me too, and if that was called as a 3rd down throw deep, the 'as good as a punt' notion, grimace.
That said, both on that throw and the TD to Golladay crossing along the endline, seemed as though Jones held the ball long time, dunno if pocket would have held that long. Again, depends whether the drill's focus was to ignore going to shorter route receivers.
watching the pass to Golladay, I think Jones held the ball an appropriate amount of time....there was no pressure in his face....there are many Lines that can create a pocket like that, we just haven't seen it in a decade.
Every camp highlight of one of his completion also comes with him holding the ball WAYYY too long
I don't want to overreact, I've been a big supporter of his from before he was even drafted by us but man oh man I'm starting to believe in my heart that maybe just maybe Tyrod would win more games with this team.
His short/quick passing game is absolutely horrendous IMO
Every camp highlight of one of his completion also comes with him holding the ball WAYYY too long
I don't want to overreact, I've been a big supporter of his from before he was even drafted by us but man oh man I'm starting to believe in my heart that maybe just maybe Tyrod would win more games with this team.
His short/quick passing game is absolutely horrendous IMO
From Bobby Skinner on Twitter:
Bobby Skinner
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Giants Training Camp Day 4 thots
•Daniel Jones finished strong and had a pretty good day besides a terrible INT to Dane Belton
•Shane Lemieux & Dexter Lawrence fight was awesome and Lemieux had good day
•Quincy Roche making moves
•Darnay Holmes turnover streak continues
We must be very careful about what we see in limited online clips. I agree with you, I'm really doubting Jones is the answer, but I'm not sure some reps in July will be the determining factor. Skinner seemed to be happy with his overall performance today.
Bobby Skinner
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Giants TE Andre Miller (converted WR UDFA from Maine) has had some really nice plays the last couple days at a position that has only 1 guaranteed roster spot locked down.
to TC, when one side of the ball makes a play, you are worried about the other side.
I don’t think it was a bad throw so much as forcing the ball downfield. Dabbol has said that he wants DJ taking chances and this looked like that. I’m fine with it, not just a bad toss over the middle or something like that.
It gave us a chance to see his arm strength and to see if the WR could figure out how to make a play. Too bad it wasn’t Golladay with Jones throwing it up for him to out reach a smaller CB.
Bobby Skinner
@BobbySkinner_
Clean pocket and Daniel Jones finds Kenny Golladay for 6! https://twitter.com/BobbySkinner_/status/1553398615334338560 - ( New Window )
Ximines didn't get around Neal like he did yesterday.
Art Stapleton
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@art_stapleton
Daniel Jones’ best throw of camp through traffic to rookie Wan’Dale Robinson in back of end zone for TD in 11/11 drills. Put some heat on it. Good moment for offense which has been scuffling
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants - Foster with an over the shoulder grab of a perfect left sideline bomb from Webb for a TD
Bobby Skinner
@BobbySkinner_
Giants TE Andre Miller (converted WR UDFA from Maine) has had some really nice plays the last couple days at a position that has only 1 guaranteed roster spot locked down.
Art Stapleton
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@art_stapleton
Replying to @art_stapleton
Kadarius Toney did not participate in team drills today. Sounds like a planned maintenance day. He has logged a ton of reps over the first week of camp.
Dan Duggan
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@DDuggan21
Focused on one player during today's practice (will be able to read that story later), so don't have as many team-wide observations. Here are a few:
• Didn't see Kadarius Toney take any team reps. Seemed like a maintenance day. Possibly the same for CB Cor'Dale Flott.
• Another day, another turnover forced by Darnay Holmes, who stripped Saquon Barkley.
• First fight of camp. My view was blocked, but others have said Shane Lemieux and Dexter Lawrence were in the middle of it.
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
We know #Giants coach Brian Daboll places much value om NYG history - often has alumns speak to the team after practice. Today, it was @BrandonJacobs27
Bobby Skinner
@BobbySkinner_
Daniel Jones fires a dart to Wan’Dale Robinson for a touchdown https://twitter.com/BobbySkinner_/status/1553403330130477059 - ( New Window )
Robinson made a move and went around Holmes, who tried to grab him. Holmes has been getting great reviews so far.
Bobby Skinner
@BobbySkinner_
Daniel Jones fires a dart to Wan’Dale Robinson for a touchdown https://twitter.com/BobbySkinner_/status/1553403330130477059 - ( New Window )
I cautiously optimistic about Jones this year. There is gonna be bad plays with learning this offense but this play was a big positive. He knew exactly where he was going with that ball and manipulated the saftey perfectly. There has to be trust that Wan'Dale can win his matchup and Jones gave him the space.
I cautiously optimistic about Jones this year. There is gonna be bad plays with learning this offense but this play was a big positive. He knew exactly where he was going with that ball and manipulated the saftey perfectly. There has to be trust that Wan'Dale can win his matchup and Jones gave him the space.
robbie, exactly: Jones looked to a bit right of goal posts and you could see McKinney (think it was) tread water in place watching Jones' eyes before making his break to Wan'Dale, too late.
Daniel Jones’ Day: Jones went 15-of-20 passing on the day, throwing two touchdowns and an interception. With the Giants starting their offense in the “fringe” zone just ahead of the 50-yard line, giving Jones plenty of space to throw into, most of his completions were either dump-offs in the flat or short passes.
Jones got better as the day went along, saving his best for last. His final pass was a strike that found Wan’Dale Robinson -- who had an impressive day, making four catches -- for a touchdown in the back of the endzone, earning a hand-stinging high-five from a fired-up Daboll. Jones’ fifth drive of the day was strong as well; he completed all three of his pass attempts, the latter two to Golladay, including a touchdown pass.
Bobby Skinner
@BobbySkinner_
Had Daniel Jones at 17/22 today with 2 TD & 1 INT
Few would be sacks count as completions but thought offense looked pretty good today in the first time they simulated regular offense moving the ball from the 40 yard line in
Looked a lot better with Lemiuex at C & Ezeudu at LG
Bobby Skinner
@BobbySkinner_
Giants TE Andre Miller (converted WR UDFA from Maine) has had some really nice plays the last couple days at a position that has only 1 guaranteed roster spot locked down.
NFL Insider
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Pat Leonard is the biggest clown. Tries to cause drama and goes around making BS reports about the #Giants. Such a clown. #TogetherBlue #NFL
Art Stapleton
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@art_stapleton
Giants offensive coaches, Daniel Jones and Wan'Dale Robinson set Darnay Holmes up on this one after he jumped the route yesterday for a Pick 6. Robinson was too quick for Xavier McKinney and Jones' throw was too good to get over in time.
Art Stapleton
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Day 4: Giants' focus was the fringe area across midfield and down into the red zone.
When the pads go on for Day 5, Brian Daboll said they'll work first and second down, much of which has been non-existent to this point other than red zone on Day 1.
Bobby Skinner
@BobbySkinner_
Giants TE Andre Miller (converted WR UDFA from Maine) has had some really nice plays the last couple days at a position that has only 1 guaranteed roster spot locked down.
Smallish for the TE position at 6'3" 225, but looks to have good hands, decent speed, and some game to him
https://goblackbears.com/sports/football/roster/andre-miller/7809
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdwjGN5hRmQ
Would make an athletic H-back if his blocking isn't horrible.
Wesley Steinberg
@WesSteinberg
Eye-witness reports from camp today tell me QB Daniel Jones accidentally hit a disabled fan with a misplaced pass. #Giants
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Wesley Steinberg
@WesSteinberg
Eye-witness reports from camp today tell me QB Daniel Jones accidentally hit a disabled fan with a misplaced pass. #Giants
It's a troll account. But that is funny.
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Wesley Steinberg
@WesSteinberg
Eye-witness reports from camp today tell me QB Daniel Jones accidentally hit a disabled fan with a misplaced pass. #Giants
@TalkinGiants
Giants DL DJ Davidson is consistently the 1st guy on the practice field every day.
@giantswfan
#Giants Daboll - Day 4...pleased with everything ao far..high red zone and fringe (approx 50 yd line situations) today....shells again...sun off and full pads on monday
Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
Daboll: “Cruising right along here.” Today will be fringe red zone work. “Keep hammering on those situations.” Then the physicality will ramp up with the pads on Monday.
@giantswfan
#Giants Daboll - wink has had a safety call the signals the past few yrs...will try it thru preseason and see how it goes
Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
Daboll said McKinney has been doing a good job communicating the defense on the field.
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants Daboll - got to make sure third-down sessions are sharp at camp because it is the key down in games
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants Daboll - ojulari still working but no timetable on taking snaps yet
@giantswfan
#Giants Daboll - been good competition on the edges...neal is doing well
Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
Daboll said the evaluation process really ramps up Monday when the pads come on. You get a good feel for the guys in the trenches.
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants Daboll - there were some miscommunications on offense fri, but also some really good reads and also the WRs breaking off the right routes, too
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@JordanRaanan
Coach Brian Daboll noted it was a practice of 3rd-and-6 to 3rd-and-9s. Going into that practice they know it’s a tough situation for the offense and success is relatively limited.
Pat Leonard
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@PLeonardNYDN
Brian Daboll says it’s only day 3, when asked about his tolerance for lack of production on offense. “Let’s not be an instant evaluator,” he said, quoting a mentor. Daboll says he saw some positive things & mistakes both on Friday. Sees it as situational work building to whole.
Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
Daboll said developing a winning identity starts now at training camp. That’s why they put together a detailed plan. It’s about fundamentals and dealing with adversity. “You’re never satisfied.”
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants Daboll - developing a winning identity comes with how you do things right now...have really good focus each period of work...key on fundamentals and technique - even though coaches are never satisfied
@Dan_Salomone
Daboll said Feliciano will probably need another day after dealing with a heat-related issue.
Dan Duggan
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Daboll said starting C Jon Feliciano will be out again today as he continues to recover from heat/hydration issues.
Dan Duggan
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Daboll emphasized it’s early in camp. He said evaluations won’t really start until the pads come on Monday. As for the offense’s rough showing yesterday, Daboll stressed that it was a third-and-long focus, which puts them at a disadvantage.
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Replying to @DDuggan21
Jamil Douglas again working as the first-team center. Had a rough practice yesterday.
Dan Duggan
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Don’t see TE Ricky Seals-Jones again either. Looks like TE Jordan Akins, DL Nick Williams and LB Darrian Beavers are back after missing yesterday
Seems so.
Also, unfortunately a number of reporters who used to do a decent job of updates in camp have left like Rosenblatt.
@TalkinGiants
Oshane Ximines getting around the corner v. Evan Neal
https://twitter.com/TalkinGiants/status/1553391572020068353 - ( New Window )
@BobbySkinner_
Wan’Dale motion with Richie James already in the backfield!
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Replying to @DDuggan21
Shane Lemieux just got a few reps with the 1’s at center. Josh Ezeudu stepped in at LG.
@BobbySkinner_
Dane Belton makes a nice INT off a bad Daniel Jones throw.
Also Darrian Beavers blew up Matt Breida
https://twitter.com/BobbySkinner_/status/1553392740272062464 - ( New Window )
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Shane Lemieux at center with first team in second set of 11/11 drills for two plays.
LT Andrew Thomas
LG Joshua Ezeudu
C Lemieux
RG Mark Glowinski
RT Evan Neal
Jon Feliciano DNP #Giants
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With C Job Feliciano out 2nd straight day, after 1st series w Jamil Douglas struggling, Brian Daboll tries Shane Lemieux at C, Josh Ezuedu at LG. Daniel Jones, who started practice w a strike to Daniel Bellinger, INT’d in end zone by Dane Belton. Golladay drops a fade vs Adoree.
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants Belton with a spectacular leaping interception of a 50-50 in the middle of the end zone.....followed by AJax with a PD on a right fade to Golladay in back corner of end zone
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Dane Belton w his first pick of camp, playing CF on a deep post from Jones to Sills. Goes up and gets the ball. Nice play.
Tom Rock
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Jones’ next pass is to Kenny Golladay which he almost catches in the end zone before bobbling it/having it punched out by Adore Jackson. Yells a fan from the stands: “72 million dollars, Golladay!”
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Replying to @PLeonardNYDN
Kadarius Toney is out here in uniform, running individuals and walkthrough. But he didn’t participate in the Giants’ first series of 11 on 11s. Brian Daboll seems to be giving him a reduced workload
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Richie James with a few first team reps. Wide receiver has earned them. Has made lots of nice catches.
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Shane Lemieux at center with first team in second set of 11/11 drills for two plays.
LT Andrew Thomas
LG Joshua Ezeudu
C Lemieux
RG Mark Glowinski
RT Evan Neal
Jon Feliciano DNP #Giants
@giantswfan
#Giants CJ Board with a reaching stab of a dart along the left sideline
Justin Penik
@JustinPenik
Davis Webb absolutely lighting it up today
@BobbySkinner_
Shane Lemieux and Dexter Lawrence just got into it big time AND I LOVE IT
https://twitter.com/BobbySkinner_/status/1553397496122167298 - ( New Window )
@giantswfan
#Giants - Glowinski and Lawrence with a big of a feisty wrestling match after a play om the goal line
Pat Leonard
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Dexter Lawrence just buried right guard Mark Glowinski after a goal line QB sweep and started a brief fight and pile on.
After this, Saquon Barkley doing a lot of talking to the defensive sideline #Giants
Art Stapleton
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First scuffle of Giants camp: Shane Lemieux in middle of a pile, first with Dexter Lawrence and then Leonard Williams.
@BobbySkinner_
Shane Lemieux was dominating Dexter Lawrence for a whole series and then started a fight with him. I’m in on Shane Lemieux stock
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Wesley Steinberg
@WesSteinberg
Eye-witness reports from camp today tell me QB Daniel Jones accidentally hit a disabled fan with a misplaced pass. #Giants
The guy tweeting probably mistook Golladay for the disabled fan.
@giantswfan
#Giants- Ward with a an aggressive hit to knock WRobinson out of bounds
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Body blows! Dexter Lawrence leaps on Shane Lemieux in anger. Someone pulls Lawrence off and then Leonard Williams body-slams Lemieux.
Idiocracy for sure...
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Art Stapleton
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Shane Lemieux at center with first team in second set of 11/11 drills for two plays.
LT Andrew Thomas
LG Joshua Ezeudu
C Lemieux
RG Mark Glowinski
RT Evan Neal
Jon Feliciano DNP #Giants///////
This is the Oline configuration I'm most interested in.
BUF scouted/liked Lemieux at Oregon (?) so Dabs may be and Schoen is familiar with him and may be why he settled in so quickly as LG with 1s in camp. We also discussed here that scouting reports' major negative on SL was lack of quick feet and why C might be a challenge.
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First real fight of #giants training camp. Shane Lemieux, obviously unhappy with something Dexter Lawrence did, comes out of nowhere and tackles Dex. Leonard Williams immediately comes to Lawrence’s defense and pummels/pins Lemieux to the ground.
@BobbySkinner_
Clean pocket and Daniel Jones finds Kenny Golladay for 6!
https://twitter.com/BobbySkinner_/status/1553398615334338560 - ( New Window )
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Replying to @DDuggan21
Shane Lemieux just got a few reps with the 1’s at center. Josh Ezeudu stepped in at LG.
I remember Shane getting a few short looks at C before. This is a good alternative than to go with Douglas. Garcia and Bredeson must not be doing too hot either.
@giantswfan
#Giants Daboll with an excited fistpump as Jones fires a 10yd bullet to crossing Golladay inside the back of the end zone for a TD.
Bobby Skinner
@BobbySkinner_
Quincy Roche is balling at Giants camp today
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Replying to @DDuggan21
Shane Lemieux just got a few reps with the 1’s at center. Josh Ezeudu stepped in at LG.
I guess theoretically there will be 53 guys the Giants can plug in at Center to see what works.
Or conversely they can, you know...draft one someday...
https://www.drafttek.com/2023-NFL-Draft-Position-Rankings/Top-College-Centers-2023-NFL-Draft.asp
Yup.
Without being there to see who's "fault" it is, there's no way to be happy.
Well, at least that's how I'm wired. *grin*
@JustinPenik
Todays the most I’ve seen Brian Daboll yell. Offense and defense have been sloppy in some areas and team periods have been mostly hurry up today. Daboll is setting the intensity today.
@BobbySkinner_
Shane Lemieux and Dexter Lawrence just got into it big time AND I LOVE IT https://twitter.com/BobbySkinner_/status/1553397496122167298 - ( New Window )
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Haven’t seen Giants rookie CB Cor’Dale Flott out here during entire team period. He’d been working at 2nd string slot in previous days
TE Ricky Seals-Jones is on the sidelines in short and T shirt, not practicing 2nd straight day
It would be more understandable if the guys were writing articles on what they saw, but they aren't doing that either.
@giantswfan
#Giants - Barkley has ball punched out by Holmes on a run play and Love returns it for a TD
@BobbySkinner_
Darnay Holmes 4th turnover day in a row! This time by popping the ball out from Saquon
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Darnay Holmes just punched the ball away from Saquon Barkley for a fumble that Julian Love returned in the direction of the house.
Four practices, three picks and forced fumble for Darnay. #Giants
@giantswfan
#Giants Daboll with an excited fistpump as Jones fires a 10yd bullet to crossing Golladay inside the back of the end zone for a TD.
Bobby Skinner
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Quincy Roche is balling at Giants camp today
Targeting a big catch radius receiver in the red zone? You might as well run or pass on 3rd down!
I don’t think it was a bad throw so much as forcing the ball downfield. Dabbol has said that he wants DJ taking chances and this looked like that. I’m fine with it, not just a bad toss over the middle or something like that.
armstead98, agree that's the way it looked to me too, and if that was called as a 3rd down throw deep, the 'as good as a punt' notion, grimace.
That said, both on that throw and the TD to Golladay crossing along the endline, seemed as though Jones held the ball long time, dunno if pocket would have held that long. Again, depends whether the drill's focus was to ignore going to shorter route receivers.
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I don’t think it was a bad throw so much as forcing the ball downfield. Dabbol has said that he wants DJ taking chances and this looked like that. I’m fine with it, not just a bad toss over the middle or something like that.
armstead98, agree that's the way it looked to me too, and if that was called as a 3rd down throw deep, the 'as good as a punt' notion, grimace.
That said, both on that throw and the TD to Golladay crossing along the endline, seemed as though Jones held the ball long time, dunno if pocket would have held that long. Again, depends whether the drill's focus was to ignore going to shorter route receivers.
watching the pass to Golladay, I think Jones held the ball an appropriate amount of time....there was no pressure in his face....there are many Lines that can create a pocket like that, we just haven't seen it in a decade.
Every camp highlight of one of his completion also comes with him holding the ball WAYYY too long
I don't want to overreact, I've been a big supporter of his from before he was even drafted by us but man oh man I'm starting to believe in my heart that maybe just maybe Tyrod would win more games with this team.
His short/quick passing game is absolutely horrendous IMO
Every camp highlight of one of his completion also comes with him holding the ball WAYYY too long
I don't want to overreact, I've been a big supporter of his from before he was even drafted by us but man oh man I'm starting to believe in my heart that maybe just maybe Tyrod would win more games with this team.
His short/quick passing game is absolutely horrendous IMO
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Giants Training Camp Day 4 thots
•Daniel Jones finished strong and had a pretty good day besides a terrible INT to Dane Belton
•Shane Lemieux & Dexter Lawrence fight was awesome and Lemieux had good day
•Quincy Roche making moves
•Darnay Holmes turnover streak continues
We must be very careful about what we see in limited online clips. I agree with you, I'm really doubting Jones is the answer, but I'm not sure some reps in July will be the determining factor. Skinner seemed to be happy with his overall performance today.
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Giants TE Andre Miller (converted WR UDFA from Maine) has had some really nice plays the last couple days at a position that has only 1 guaranteed roster spot locked down.
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to TC, when one side of the ball makes a play, you are worried about the other side.
I don’t think it was a bad throw so much as forcing the ball downfield. Dabbol has said that he wants DJ taking chances and this looked like that. I’m fine with it, not just a bad toss over the middle or something like that.
It gave us a chance to see his arm strength and to see if the WR could figure out how to make a play. Too bad it wasn’t Golladay with Jones throwing it up for him to out reach a smaller CB.
@BobbySkinner_
Clean pocket and Daniel Jones finds Kenny Golladay for 6! https://twitter.com/BobbySkinner_/status/1553398615334338560 - ( New Window )
Ximines didn't get around Neal like he did yesterday.
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Jones has been making a lot of calls at the LOS today. Things we like to see.
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Daniel Jones finishes a drive with a TD to Wan’Dale Robinson. Threw a strike. Nice ball
@BobbySkinner_
Daniel Jones fires a dart to Wan’Dale Robinson for a touchdown
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@art_stapleton
Daniel Jones’ best throw of camp through traffic to rookie Wan’Dale Robinson in back of end zone for TD in 11/11 drills. Put some heat on it. Good moment for offense which has been scuffling
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#Giants - Foster with an over the shoulder grab of a perfect left sideline bomb from Webb for a TD
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Giants TE Andre Miller (converted WR UDFA from Maine) has had some really nice plays the last couple days at a position that has only 1 guaranteed roster spot locked down.
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Kadarius Toney did not participate in team drills today. Sounds like a planned maintenance day. He has logged a ton of reps over the first week of camp.
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Focused on one player during today's practice (will be able to read that story later), so don't have as many team-wide observations. Here are a few:
• Didn't see Kadarius Toney take any team reps. Seemed like a maintenance day. Possibly the same for CB Cor'Dale Flott.
• Another day, another turnover forced by Darnay Holmes, who stripped Saquon Barkley.
• First fight of camp. My view was blocked, but others have said Shane Lemieux and Dexter Lawrence were in the middle of it.
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We know #Giants coach Brian Daboll places much value om NYG history - often has alumns speak to the team after practice. Today, it was @BrandonJacobs27
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Daniel Jones fires a dart to Wan’Dale Robinson for a touchdown https://twitter.com/BobbySkinner_/status/1553403330130477059 - ( New Window )
Robinson made a move and went around Holmes, who tried to grab him. Holmes has been getting great reviews so far.
Giants training camp observations, Day 4: Brian Daboll preaches patience as offensive struggles continue, 1st fight breaks out - ( New Window )
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Daniel Jones fires a dart to Wan’Dale Robinson for a touchdown https://twitter.com/BobbySkinner_/status/1553403330130477059 - ( New Window )
I cautiously optimistic about Jones this year. There is gonna be bad plays with learning this offense but this play was a big positive. He knew exactly where he was going with that ball and manipulated the saftey perfectly. There has to be trust that Wan'Dale can win his matchup and Jones gave him the space.
Actually he made all 3 before this and Daboll is just managing his load. He’s not hurt.
robbie, exactly: Jones looked to a bit right of goal posts and you could see McKinney (think it was) tread water in place watching Jones' eyes before making his break to Wan'Dale, too late.
Daniel Jones’ Day: Jones went 15-of-20 passing on the day, throwing two touchdowns and an interception. With the Giants starting their offense in the “fringe” zone just ahead of the 50-yard line, giving Jones plenty of space to throw into, most of his completions were either dump-offs in the flat or short passes.
Jones got better as the day went along, saving his best for last. His final pass was a strike that found Wan’Dale Robinson -- who had an impressive day, making four catches -- for a touchdown in the back of the endzone, earning a hand-stinging high-five from a fired-up Daboll. Jones’ fifth drive of the day was strong as well; he completed all three of his pass attempts, the latter two to Golladay, including a touchdown pass.
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Had Daniel Jones at 17/22 today with 2 TD & 1 INT
Few would be sacks count as completions but thought offense looked pretty good today in the first time they simulated regular offense moving the ball from the 40 yard line in
Looked a lot better with Lemiuex at C & Ezeudu at LG
@BobbySkinner_
Giants TE Andre Miller (converted WR UDFA from Maine) has had some really nice plays the last couple days at a position that has only 1 guaranteed roster spot locked down.
Smallish for the TE position at 6'3" 225, but looks to have good hands, decent speed, and some game to him
https://goblackbears.com/sports/football/roster/andre-miller/7809
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdwjGN5hRmQ
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Pat Leonard is the biggest clown. Tries to cause drama and goes around making BS reports about the #Giants. Such a clown. #TogetherBlue #NFL
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Giants offensive coaches, Daniel Jones and Wan'Dale Robinson set Darnay Holmes up on this one after he jumped the route yesterday for a Pick 6. Robinson was too quick for Xavier McKinney and Jones' throw was too good to get over in time.
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Day 4: Giants' focus was the fringe area across midfield and down into the red zone.
When the pads go on for Day 5, Brian Daboll said they'll work first and second down, much of which has been non-existent to this point other than red zone on Day 1.
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Giants TE Andre Miller (converted WR UDFA from Maine) has had some really nice plays the last couple days at a position that has only 1 guaranteed roster spot locked down.
Smallish for the TE position at 6'3" 225, but looks to have good hands, decent speed, and some game to him
https://goblackbears.com/sports/football/roster/andre-miller/7809
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdwjGN5hRmQ
Would make an athletic H-back if his blocking isn't horrible.