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Ravens 1st Round Pick Kyle Hamilton owned by UDFA

CMicks3110 : 7/31/2022 6:08 pm
So glad we didn’t end up with this guy. Looks so so slow. I know it’s S vs. WR, but still, I would think most starting NFL safeties can put up reasonable coverage against an UDFA.
Link?  
sb from NYT Forum : 7/31/2022 6:19 pm : link
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Lol  
terz22 : 7/31/2022 6:21 pm : link
That was embarrassing
Link  
Toth029 : 7/31/2022 6:21 pm : link
Here
https://mobile.twitter.com/eliotcrist/status/1553789659414757377?s=21&t=5smoFKi8n77IMrE3mmAGsw - ( New Window )
Link.  
terz22 : 7/31/2022 6:22 pm : link
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CMicks3110 : 7/31/2022 6:22 pm : link
my bad
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/31/2022 6:23 pm : link
It is one play. Uno. Let's hold off on writing the 'Hamilton sucks' takes.
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terz22 : 7/31/2022 6:26 pm : link
In comment 15767446 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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It is one play. Uno. Let's hold off on writing the 'Hamilton sucks' takes.


Totally agree with this. Can't get crazy over one rep.
It's true that it's only one play, but I was glad that we didn't draft  
Ira : 7/31/2022 6:36 pm : link
Hamilton, especially when you have a defense that puts a premium on man coverage.
Ira.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/31/2022 6:38 pm : link
We'll see. I'm an ND fan so I saw Hamilton every game in college. I think he's going to be a damn good pro. But I thought the same about Leaf coming out of college so...(shrugging shoulders). Haha.
lol  
Johnny5 : 7/31/2022 6:53 pm : link
One play. He's a rookie, and he's NOT a CB. There are plenty of NFL people high on Kyle Hamilton. Is it an embarrassing play? Umm yeah. But what does it mean in the grand scheme of things? I mean, yeah I'd hold off judgement for now.
No respect for Bailey Gaither?  
Big Blue Blogger : 7/31/2022 6:55 pm : link
Dude was All-Conference at SJSU, and he led the USFL’s vaunted Pittsburgh Maulers with 4 TD catches.
Come on blogger  
Johnny5 : 7/31/2022 7:13 pm : link
Bailey Gaither is the MAN. lol
Were that tweet and this thread  
Chris684 : 7/31/2022 7:33 pm : link
meant to be serious?

One play in July with shorts on?
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arcarsenal : 7/31/2022 7:35 pm : link
I didn't want Hamilton for NYG at all, but this stuff happens this time of year. I don't think it's really indicative of anything.
those one on one drills  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 7/31/2022 8:03 pm : link
with a two way release are hard on defenders
Seriously STOP  
It's a New Day : 7/31/2022 8:10 pm : link
It's 3 days into a ROOKIE's camp and you already know he's gonna suck? STFU please
Remember the DK Metcalf  
The Dude : 7/31/2022 8:12 pm : link
Rookie year reps when It took him 8 strides to cut on a route.

Good players/athletes continue getting better through their craft from age 20-25
But keep in mind Hamilton had a disastrous combine  
Producer : 7/31/2022 8:16 pm : link
So he actually isn't an elite athlete for the NFL. And this is a big reason he dropped to the Ravens.
Coming off a knee injury  
slickwilly : 7/31/2022 8:25 pm : link
Glad we picked who we did, but these hot takes are just dumb.
Ximines went around Evan Neal like he wasn't even there  
Jimmy Googs : 7/31/2022 8:29 pm : link
the other day. Repeat...Ximines.

Is Neal a bust too?
Cruz was a udfa  
Aaroninma : 7/31/2022 8:53 pm : link
And he burned lots of great players
RE: Ximines went around Evan Neal like he wasn't even there  
arcarsenal : 7/31/2022 8:54 pm : link
In comment 15767542 Jimmy Googs said:
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the other day. Repeat...Ximines.

Is Neal a bust too?


Obviously.
RE: Ximines went around Evan Neal like he wasn't even there  
Angel Eyes : 7/31/2022 8:55 pm : link
In comment 15767542 Jimmy Googs said:
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the other day. Repeat...Ximines.

Is Neal a bust too?

And does that mean Ximines is the next LT?

*end sarcasm*
This is why Hamilton wasn't worth a top 10 pick  
Breeze_94 : 7/31/2022 8:57 pm : link
and slipped to Baltimore in the first place. I don't think this is a shock to anyone- just reiterates that h should never line up in press man versus a wide receiver...if he does, his DC should be fired.

But that limitation does hurt his value a bit because he is scheme/role dependent. Hamilton is a very linear player- one he gets going, he CAN cover ground pretty well. He does well as a single high safety where can attack down hill or read & react over the top.

Actually reminds me a lot of Kenny Phillips. Kenny was a good centerfielder who could make plays on the ball and lay the big hit but I don't ever recall him walking down to the slot and playing man coverage.
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Big Blue '56 : 7/31/2022 9:05 pm : link
In comment 15767446 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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It is one play. Uno. Let's hold off on writing the 'Hamilton sucks' takes.


Welcome to BBI…😂
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eric2425ny : 7/31/2022 9:23 pm : link
In comment 15767446 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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It is one play. Uno. Let's hold off on writing the 'Hamilton sucks' takes.


One things for sure on Hamilton. He’s not gonna waste his shot.
RE: This is why Hamilton wasn't worth a top 10 pick  
shyster : 7/31/2022 9:36 pm : link
In comment 15767560 Breeze_94 said:
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and slipped to Baltimore in the first place. I don't think this is a shock to anyone- just reiterates that h should never line up in press man versus a wide receiver...if he does, his DC should be fired.

But that limitation does hurt his value a bit because he is scheme/role dependent. Hamilton is a very linear player- one he gets going, he CAN cover ground pretty well. He does well as a single high safety where can attack down hill or read & react over the top.

Actually reminds me a lot of Kenny Phillips. Kenny was a good centerfielder who could make plays on the ball and lay the big hit but I don't ever recall him walking down to the slot and playing man coverage.


Was reviewing some Hamilton threads and came across:

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Breeze_94 : 1/6/2022 11:48 pm

Plain and simple the Giants suck. They need to hit on 5-6 draft picks this year to even field a competitive team in the NFC east.

If you have a chance to draft an impact player, you do it. Hamilton is a top 5 talent in this draft and probably closer to 1 than he is 5.

Is safety the most valuable position? No. But Hamilton is more than a safety- he creates turnovers (highly valuable) and makes plays (PBU's, TFL's, etc) that get the defense OFF THE FIELD on 3rd down- that was a huge issue for the Giants for a majority of this season and is valuable no matter where the guy lines up. And Hamilton, by the way, will line up everywhere- nickel, deep safety, in the box, as a blitzer, etc.

I'd run to the podium if he is there at the Chicago pick.



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RE: RE: This is why Hamilton wasn't worth a top 10 pick  
arcarsenal : 7/31/2022 9:40 pm : link
In comment 15767583 shyster said:
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In comment 15767560 Breeze_94 said:


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and slipped to Baltimore in the first place. I don't think this is a shock to anyone- just reiterates that h should never line up in press man versus a wide receiver...if he does, his DC should be fired.

But that limitation does hurt his value a bit because he is scheme/role dependent. Hamilton is a very linear player- one he gets going, he CAN cover ground pretty well. He does well as a single high safety where can attack down hill or read & react over the top.

Actually reminds me a lot of Kenny Phillips. Kenny was a good centerfielder who could make plays on the ball and lay the big hit but I don't ever recall him walking down to the slot and playing man coverage.



Was reviewing some Hamilton threads and came across:



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Breeze_94 : 1/6/2022 11:48 pm

Plain and simple the Giants suck. They need to hit on 5-6 draft picks this year to even field a competitive team in the NFC east.

If you have a chance to draft an impact player, you do it. Hamilton is a top 5 talent in this draft and probably closer to 1 than he is 5.

Is safety the most valuable position? No. But Hamilton is more than a safety- he creates turnovers (highly valuable) and makes plays (PBU's, TFL's, etc) that get the defense OFF THE FIELD on 3rd down- that was a huge issue for the Giants for a majority of this season and is valuable no matter where the guy lines up. And Hamilton, by the way, will line up everywhere- nickel, deep safety, in the box, as a blitzer, etc.

I'd run to the podium if he is there at the Chicago pick.


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That wasn't Breeze_94  
santacruzom : 8/1/2022 1:32 am : link
That was Breeze... 95

Yeah, a 6'4"  
section125 : 8/1/2022 6:36 am : link
220 lbs safety is not exactly the optimum size for man to man. Jason Sehorn, a legit CB and speedster, was close in size. But for Pete's sake, 3 days into a new system, to criticize one play of 100s is pretty piss poor.
RE: ...  
Rudy5757 : 8/1/2022 8:57 am : link
In comment 15767446 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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It is one play. Uno. Let's hold off on writing the 'Hamilton sucks' takes.


exactly, anyone can look bad on one play. I didnt want him at 5 or 7 but he will most likely be a good player, probably more of a hybrid LB/S.
I remember ...  
FStubbs : 8/1/2022 10:17 am : link
... when Ramses Barden looked better than Hakeem Nicks their first couple of days or so. Nothing to see here yet.
shyster out here playing sniper  
Greg from LI : 8/1/2022 10:23 am : link
Got em!

Anyway, back to the actual subject.....Evan Neal was beaten for a sack by suckass Oshane Ximines. Is anyone wetting their pants about that? Of course not, because it's training camp for crissakes.
Hamilton  
X : 8/1/2022 12:05 pm : link
does look slow, at least on that play
RE: Cruz was a udfa  
Paulie Walnuts : 8/1/2022 5:41 pm : link
In comment 15767554 Aaroninma said:
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And he burned lots of great players
I thought the media said Cruz was drafted by the Jets?
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