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Monday NYG Training Camp Updates (pads come on today)

Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/1/2022 8:20 am


Monday, August 1, 2022

Head Coach Brian Daboll – Approx. 9:30 a.m.

Practice – 10:00 a.m. – 11:45 a.m.

Players Available – Approx. 11:55 a.m.

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Who's gonna be the first to day  
M.S. : 8/1/2022 8:32 am : link

"I hope they come out of this practice clean with no injuries?"

Whoops.
I'm guessing they'll be practicing indoors  
Anakim : 8/1/2022 8:59 am : link
Looks like it's gonna be a rainy Monday
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/1/2022 9:40 am : link
Patricia Traina

@Patricia_Traina
Daboll said there will be a heavy emphasis on the run game today. #giants

GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants Daboll - full pads and normal situations today...emphasis on run game...eye specifically on techniques and energy
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/1/2022 9:40 am : link
Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
Daboll: “Big week ahead of us starting today. We’re in full pads.” There will be a heavy emphasis on the run game. “This is where the game is played.”
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/1/2022 9:41 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants Daboll - might do some real tackling at some point in practice with 2s and 3s..feliciano day or two away from practicing

GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants Daboll - lemieux did "good. it's a start" on giving h
im some snaps at center....rotating many reserves in that spot

Pat Leonard

@PLeonardNYDN
First-string center Jon Feliciano won’t be practicing today again, a 3rd straight missed. Brian Daboll says Feliciano is “working through some things” and will be out another day or two #Giants
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/1/2022 9:42 am : link
Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
Daboll said Feliciano will not be back today. Hopefully tomorrow but maybe the next day. Daboll said it was good to get Lemieux some reps at center against the first team defense.

GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants Daboll - worked with a lot of 7 on 7 in spring, so use the practice time for more positional work and 11 on 11
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/1/2022 9:43 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants Daboll - some times in practice you just ask the QB to throw it up because you simply want to see how the DBs play that ball..

Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
Daboll said he was just talking to Toney this morning about position flexibility and adding something else to his plate. He said “oh yeah and had a big smile.”

Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
Daboll said he and Schoen have talked to the rookies multiple times about how to be a pro. He’s been pleased with how they’ve handled everything and credits Ashley Lynn in player engagement.
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Anakim : 8/1/2022 9:49 am : link
In comment 15767764 Eric from BBI said:
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GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants Daboll - some times in practice you just ask the QB to throw it up because you simply want to see how the DBs play that ball..



That should be effortless for Daniel Jones
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/1/2022 9:50 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants Daboll - belton jwilliams seals-jones not working today
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/1/2022 9:58 am : link
The Giant Insider Newspaper & Podcast
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Just saw Dane Belton With his left arm in a sling, he will miss some time #Giants
When Lemioux Was Drafted  
Samiam : 8/1/2022 10:05 am : link
Wasn’t there talk of making him a center?
RE: When Lemioux Was Drafted  
bLiTz 2k : 8/1/2022 10:17 am : link
In comment 15767794 Samiam said:
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Wasn’t there talk of making him a center?


Yea but I think a lot of that was fan driven, and maybe a bit of damage control from the regime.

Remember, the fanbase knew we needed one bad and had no idea what we had in Gates. The Giants passed on Biadsz multiple times and took Shane in the 5th...I don't know how serious they were about "Shane can play center" unless of course Gates fell flat on his face.

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jvm52106 : 8/1/2022 10:26 am : link
In comment 15767772 Anakim said:
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In comment 15767764 Eric from BBI said:


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GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants Daboll - some times in practice you just ask the QB to throw it up because you simply want to see how the DBs play that ball..





That should be effortless for Daniel Jones


Ok, I laughed at that one.
Now that's a drill, Evan Engram could excell at !  
JoeMorrison40 : 8/1/2022 10:29 am : link
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/1/2022 10:31 am : link
Patricia Traina

@Patricia_Traina
A very light rain is falling right now. We’ll see if they can keep practice outside or if it has to move indoors. #giants
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/1/2022 10:35 am : link
Emory Hunt
@FBallGameplan
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Thibodeaux vs Thomas in 1-on-1s #GiantsCamp
https://twitter.com/FBallGameplan/status/1554113001850081287 - ( New Window )
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/1/2022 10:38 am : link
Bobby Skinner
@BobbySkinner_
Andrew Thomas locking up Kayvon Thibodeaux
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/1/2022 10:39 am : link
The Giant Insider Newspaper & Podcast
@GiantInsider
Ximines beats Evan Neal in 1-on-1s
https://twitter.com/GiantInsider/status/1554113279760506880 - ( New Window )
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/1/2022 10:39 am : link
Justin Penik
@JustinPenik
Leonard Williams just messed up Mark Glowinski in 1v1’s. Messed up could be an exaggeration but this is a Leonard Williams stan account
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Anakim : 8/1/2022 10:40 am : link
Mike Kaye
@mike_e_kaye

Dexter Lawrence and Leonard Williams predictably dominated 1 on 1 rush drills. Oshane Ximines and Kayvon Thibodeaux also had some nice wins around the edge. #Giants #PFNTCTour
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/1/2022 10:40 am : link
Patricia Traina

@Patricia_Traina
OL. S DL drills right now. DL winning majority of one on ones so far. #giants

Patricia Traina

@Patricia_Traina
Ximines with two good reps, beating his man to the inside. #giants
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/1/2022 10:40 am : link
Bobby Skinner
@BobbySkinner_
Andrew Thomas locking up Kayvon Thibodeaux part 2
https://twitter.com/BobbySkinner_/status/1554114182668238853 - ( New Window )
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Anakim : 8/1/2022 10:42 am : link
In comment 15767837 Eric from BBI said:
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Bobby Skinner
@BobbySkinner_
Andrew Thomas locking up Kayvon Thibodeaux part 2 https://twitter.com/BobbySkinner_/status/1554114182668238853 - ( New Window )


Thibs looked like he would've run that rep if he didn't slip
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/1/2022 10:43 am : link
Talkin’ Giants
@TalkinGiants
Andre Miller getting 1st team H-Back reps over Jeremiah Hall
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/1/2022 10:44 am : link
Patricia Traina

@Patricia_Traina
Matt Breida showing decisiveness and quickness In Hitting the hole. #giants

GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants 11 on 11 - Jones completes dart over the middle to WRobinson (vs ARobinson) for a nice gain...Jones follows with a short rope of to Toney on the right sideline
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k2tampa : 8/1/2022 10:45 am : link
In comment 15767772 Anakim said:
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GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants Daboll - some times in practice you just ask the QB to throw it up because you simply want to see how the DBs play that ball..





That should be effortless for Daniel Jones


INTs have not been an issue for Jones. Where do people get this stuff from? His INT percentage has fallen every year, and was the same as Murray's in 2020 and better than Murray's and Herbert's in 2021, and better than two of Mahommes' four years as a starter (including 2021). His 1.9 INT percentage last year was better than Allen's 2.3. And how much better would it have been if Engram didn't cause multiple INTs with deflections.

He had one game where turnovers were an issue last year, the Rams game when he came back from a concussion the week before (and likely shouldn't have played) when he threw 3 of his total 7 INTS. So he had 4 INTS in his other 10 games.

He also had 2 fumbles (one lost) in that Rams game (one lost). In the other 10 games he had 5 fumbles (2 lost). So in 10 games not using the game a week after a concussion, he had 4 INTS and 2 fumbles lost. For comparison, Josh Allen had 8 fumbles (3 lost) in 17 games (along with his 15 INTs). Take that to 10 games and it would have been 4.6 fumbles and 1.6 lost.
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Anakim : 8/1/2022 10:47 am : link
Mike Kaye
@mike_e_kaye

Daniel Jones hits Wan’Dale Robinson over the middle in stride to begin 11 on 11 work and the fans erupt like it was a 99-yard TD toss. #Giants #PFNTCTour
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/1/2022 10:47 am : link

@Patricia_Traina
Gary Brightwell gets a quality rep. Nice burst. #giants

GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants - Taylor hits James on a short cross...then Brightwell with sweet jukes behind the left side for a big run
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/1/2022 10:47 am : link
Jordan Raanan

@JordanRaanan
Hello, Kayvon! That’s him having his way with Matt Gano.

More of these type clips on IG.
https://twitter.com/JordanRaanan/status/1554115948277370880 - ( New Window )
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/1/2022 10:50 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants - Taylor hits James on a short cross...then Brightwell with sweet jukes behind the left side for a big run

GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants - Holmes diving breakup along right sideline of jones throw to breida

The Giant Insider Newspaper & Podcast
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Darrian Beavers getting some reps in with 1s. So is WR Richie James.

Justin Penik
@JustinPenik
Micah McFadden and Darrian Beavers with some nice plays in the backfield on run plays so far.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/1/2022 10:51 am : link
Patricia Traina

@Patricia_Traina
Shame Lemoeux getting snaps at center again, BTW. #giants

GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants - Taylor toss to bellinger on a cross over the middle for a nice gain vs a zone

Bobby Skinner
@BobbySkinner_
Oshane Ximines is looking really good?
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/1/2022 10:51 am : link
Dan Duggan

@DDuggan21
Minor depth chart change over the past few days: Cor’Dale Flott has been getting work outside at corner on the second-team D with Michael Jacquet bumped to the third string. Khalil Dorsey has been the slot corner with the 2’s.
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bLiTz 2k : 8/1/2022 10:55 am : link
In comment 15767843 k2tampa said:
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GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants Daboll - some times in practice you just ask the QB to throw it up because you simply want to see how the DBs play that ball..





That should be effortless for Daniel Jones



INTs have not been an issue for Jones. Where do people get this stuff from? His INT percentage has fallen every year, and was the same as Murray's in 2020 and better than Murray's and Herbert's in 2021, and better than two of Mahommes' four years as a starter (including 2021). His 1.9 INT percentage last year was better than Allen's 2.3. And how much better would it have been if Engram didn't cause multiple INTs with deflections.

He had one game where turnovers were an issue last year, the Rams game when he came back from a concussion the week before (and likely shouldn't have played) when he threw 3 of his total 7 INTS. So he had 4 INTS in his other 10 games.

He also had 2 fumbles (one lost) in that Rams game (one lost). In the other 10 games he had 5 fumbles (2 lost). So in 10 games not using the game a week after a concussion, he had 4 INTS and 2 fumbles lost. For comparison, Josh Allen had 8 fumbles (3 lost) in 17 games (along with his 15 INTs). Take that to 10 games and it would have been 4.6 fumbles and 1.6 lost.


Yea the Jones turnover problem is the biggest myth perpetuated by fans and media...not saying the guy is an effective QB right now, but he hasn't been a turnover machine since his rookie year.

Jones needs to score, and actually produce big plays in the air. There's room for the turnover numbers to actually go up if they are being aggressive and actually scoring more.
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mittenedman : 8/1/2022 10:57 am : link
In comment 15767837 Eric from BBI said:
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Bobby Skinner
@BobbySkinner_
Andrew Thomas locking up Kayvon Thibodeaux part 2 https://twitter.com/BobbySkinner_/status/1554114182668238853 - ( New Window )


Andrew Thomas looks incredible. Build wise, feet wise, hand usage. That's what an All Pro LT looks like.
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santacruzom : 8/1/2022 11:01 am : link
In comment 15767843 k2tampa said:
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In comment 15767764 Eric from BBI said:


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GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants Daboll - some times in practice you just ask the QB to throw it up because you simply want to see how the DBs play that ball..





That should be effortless for Daniel Jones



INTs have not been an issue for Jones. Where do people get this stuff from? His INT percentage has fallen every year, and was the same as Murray's in 2020 and better than Murray's and Herbert's in 2021, and better than two of Mahommes' four years as a starter (including 2021). His 1.9 INT percentage last year was better than Allen's 2.3. And how much better would it have been if Engram didn't cause multiple INTs with deflections.

He had one game where turnovers were an issue last year, the Rams game when he came back from a concussion the week before (and likely shouldn't have played) when he threw 3 of his total 7 INTS. So he had 4 INTS in his other 10 games.

He also had 2 fumbles (one lost) in that Rams game (one lost). In the other 10 games he had 5 fumbles (2 lost). So in 10 games not using the game a week after a concussion, he had 4 INTS and 2 fumbles lost. For comparison, Josh Allen had 8 fumbles (3 lost) in 17 games (along with his 15 INTs). Take that to 10 games and it would have been 4.6 fumbles and 1.6 lost.


The difference between Jones' litany of turnovers and good QBs turning the ball over us that generally, when they turn the ball over, it's in the context of a game in which they're an asset because they're producing yards and points.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/1/2022 11:02 am : link
The Giant Insider Newspaper & Podcast
@GiantInsider
Darrian Beavers very active, young man off to a nice start of camp
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Anakim : 8/1/2022 11:03 am : link
Emory Hunt

@FBallGameplan

I’ll say this again, I don’t know how folks thought the UNC OL was bad, as both Marcus McKethan & Joshua Ezeudu stood out during the all-star practices, my film study and during this fully padded practice.

They’ve excelled in the run game today
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/1/2022 11:05 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants 2nd period of 11 on 11 - starting out with a group interior runs...then AWilliams breaks a long one around right side
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/1/2022 11:08 am : link
Talkin’ Giants
@TalkinGiants
Matt Breida & Cam Brown got into a shoving match after the play

Dan Duggan

@DDuggan21
Tempera starting to flare in the first padded practice. Cam Brown just grabbed Matt Breida’s face mask as players jawed and pushed after a play.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/1/2022 11:10 am : link
The Giant Insider Newspaper & Podcast
@GiantInsider
DJ Davidson and Ben Bredeson get into a mild scuffle, Daboll jumps in and orders both to respective sidelines.

GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants - Barkley breaks contact on a nice long inside run .... a few snaps later, Cam Brown gets a bit feisty on a stop

Bobby Skinner
@BobbySkinner_
Jamil Douglas at Center is so bad
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/1/2022 11:13 am : link
The Giant Insider Newspaper & Podcast
@GiantInsider
Nice little jet sweep to Wan’Dale picks up some yards. Will see a lot of that this season
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/1/2022 11:16 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants - WRobinson turns on the jets for a big play down the right sideline

Patricia Traina

@Patricia_Traina
I like how the running game is spreading out the defense and making guys give chase more. Tire those big guys out. #giants

The Giant Insider Newspaper & Podcast
@GiantInsider
Daboll working in Lemieux at center, Ezeudu left guard again.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/1/2022 11:19 am : link
Dan Duggan

@DDuggan21
First time we’ve seen the Giants’ base defense. Jalyn Holmes was the third DL with Dexter Lawrence playing NT.
RE: When Lemioux Was Drafted  
robbieballs2003 : 8/1/2022 11:20 am : link
In comment 15767794 Samiam said:
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Wasn’t there talk of making him a center?


I don't know if it was his rookie year or not but there was one offseason he was training as a C. I think it was the offseason after his rookie year.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/1/2022 11:21 am : link
In comment 15767878 Eric from BBI said:
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Dan Duggan

@DDuggan21
First time we’ve seen the Giants’ base defense. Jalyn Holmes was the third DL with Dexter Lawrence playing NT.


Very interesting.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/1/2022 11:22 am : link
Patricia Traina

@Patricia_Traina
Giants just lined up in Wild Cat and then shifted into traditional alignment. Saquon with a big off-tackle run. #giants
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/1/2022 11:26 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants 3rd 11 on 11 period - Barkley rips off a big run up the middle followed by a quick Slayton catch from Jones....then looked like a busted route by WRob on an incomplete

The Giant Insider Newspaper & Podcast
@GiantInsider
Thibs with a beautiful swim move beating Thomas forcing Daniel to roll right

Patricia Traina

@Patricia_Traina
Thibodeaux came off the edge past Andrew Thomas on a blitz and chased Daniel Jones out of the pocket. #giants


GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants - barkley nice interior blitz pickup but ARob draws PI flag defending WRob...
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/1/2022 11:26 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants - jomes misses golladay - behind him on a hot read in-cut
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/1/2022 11:28 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants - Taylor hits Board on a long crossing route vs Jacquet
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/1/2022 11:37 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants deep red zone - OL paves way for Barkley 11 yd gain on right side to the 4...then Lobe breaks up Jones slant for Toney...then a throwaway as ARob blankets Golladay in right corner.

Justin Penik
@JustinPenik
Daniel Jones has been… not very good today. Lot of inaccurate throws. Most uncomfortable he’s looked so far in camp.
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