Bobby Skinner
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Giants training camp Day 5 thots
•Saquon looks explosive and starting O ran the ball well
•Daniel Jones finished the day w/ 6 straight incompletions
•Shane Lemieux is looking really good
•Aaron Robinson had an awesome day
•Wink sent the house on 3rd down everytime
Bobby Skinner
@BobbySkinner_
Giants training camp Day 5 thots
•Saquon looks explosive and starting O ran the ball well
•Daniel Jones finished the day w/ 6 straight incompletions
•Shane Lemieux is looking really good
•Aaron Robinson had an awesome day
•Wink sent the house on 3rd down everytime
6 straight incompletions without a turnover breaking the streak is improvement though, right?
will probably be the starter by mid-season and we’ll be looking for a new QB next year! However, Taylor starting could take us out of the top 5 looking for a new QB. Maybe Jones should start all year after all?!🤔
Bobby Skinner
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Saquon Barkley looks really good and was hitting the hole hard in the first day of full pads and running the ball.
Offense runs well with Shane Lemieux at C & Josh Ezeudu at LG
The Giant Insider Newspaper & Podcast
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One quick observation: The interior of the O-line is definitely struggling against Leo and Dex. Even Justin Ellis got some push today.
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants Daboll - some times in practice you just ask the QB to throw it up because you simply want to see how the DBs play that ball..
That should be effortless for Daniel Jones
INTs have not been an issue for Jones. Where do people get this stuff from? His INT percentage has fallen every year, and was the same as Murray's in 2020 and better than Murray's and Herbert's in 2021, and better than two of Mahommes' four years as a starter (including 2021). His 1.9 INT percentage last year was better than Allen's 2.3. And how much better would it have been if Engram didn't cause multiple INTs with deflections.
He had one game where turnovers were an issue last year, the Rams game when he came back from a concussion the week before (and likely shouldn't have played) when he threw 3 of his total 7 INTS. So he had 4 INTS in his other 10 games.
He also had 2 fumbles (one lost) in that Rams game (one lost). In the other 10 games he had 5 fumbles (2 lost). So in 10 games not using the game a week after a concussion, he had 4 INTS and 2 fumbles lost. For comparison, Josh Allen had 8 fumbles (3 lost) in 17 games (along with his 15 INTs). Take that to 10 games and it would have been 4.6 fumbles and 1.6 lost.
For those who have eyes, they should be able to see this clearly…..but to those who are blind, nothing you write will mean anything to them. In order not to get discouraged just remind yourself you are not writing to please that latter group, the blind guys…..you are writing to enlighten those who are walking in the darkness, but not blind (still hope).
Bobby Skinner
@BobbySkinner_
Saquon Barkley looks really good and was hitting the hole hard in the first day of full pads and running the ball.
Offense runs well with Shane Lemieux at C & Josh Ezeudu at LG
The Giant Insider Newspaper & Podcast
@GiantInsider
One quick observation: The interior of the O-line is definitely struggling against Leo and Dex. Even Justin Ellis got some push today.
BTW, note the conflicting narratives here... this is why you can't take anything from an observer as gospel.
Bobby Skinner
@BobbySkinner_
Saquon Barkley looks really good and was hitting the hole hard in the first day of full pads and running the ball.
Offense runs well with Shane Lemieux at C & Josh Ezeudu at LG
The Giant Insider Newspaper & Podcast
@GiantInsider
One quick observation: The interior of the O-line is definitely struggling against Leo and Dex. Even Justin Ellis got some push today.
BTW, note the conflicting narratives here... this is why you can't take anything from an observer as gospel.
It is up to us to be objective and not always go with the information that we want to hear.
Bobby Skinner
@BobbySkinner_
Saquon Barkley looks really good and was hitting the hole hard in the first day of full pads and running the ball.
Offense runs well with Shane Lemieux at C & Josh Ezeudu at LG
The Giant Insider Newspaper & Podcast
@GiantInsider
One quick observation: The interior of the O-line is definitely struggling against Leo and Dex. Even Justin Ellis got some push today.
BTW, note the conflicting narratives here... this is why you can't take anything from an observer as gospel.
I was thinking the same exact thing when I read that
Bobby Skinner
@BobbySkinner_
Saquon Barkley looks really good and was hitting the hole hard in the first day of full pads and running the ball.
Offense runs well with Shane Lemieux at C & Josh Ezeudu at LG
The Giant Insider Newspaper & Podcast
@GiantInsider
One quick observation: The interior of the O-line is definitely struggling against Leo and Dex. Even Justin Ellis got some push today.
BTW, note the conflicting narratives here... this is why you can't take anything from an observer as gospel.
It is up to us to be objective and not always go with the information that we want to hear.
I think the point is that two different people commented on the same area of the team (IOL) and have two completely different takes on it.
Bobby Skinner
@BobbySkinner_
Saquon Barkley looks really good and was hitting the hole hard in the first day of full pads and running the ball.
Offense runs well with Shane Lemieux at C & Josh Ezeudu at LG
The Giant Insider Newspaper & Podcast
@GiantInsider
One quick observation: The interior of the O-line is definitely struggling against Leo and Dex. Even Justin Ellis got some push today.
BTW, note the conflicting narratives here... this is why you can't take anything from an observer as gospel.
It is up to us to be objective and not always go with the information that we want to hear.
I think the point is that two different people commented on the same area of the team (IOL) and have two completely different takes on it.
Right, I did not meant to come off as if I was somehow challenging that post. If we have different views, then there will be different takes. It is not uncommon for us fans to accept the view that we agree with.
I like the view that Barkley looked explosive, but I gotta see it first, and consistently.
I'm going to voice concerns over the clips I've been seeing of Daniel Jones...
He looks... Bad.
Inaccurate, indecisive and weak arm. It's really the Indecisive part that kills me the most... this guy holds the ball to long throwing against just air!!!
I am seriously beginning to doubt he will ever put it all together and I'm starting to wonder if Tyrod would be better/win more games with this team... not to mention Jimmy G
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Daniel Jones getting extra work post-practice with WRs David Sills (obviously) and Collin Johnson
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Giants may be trying out some players today. We are doing interviews outside instead of on their indoor field. Saw some evaluators go in
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Giants worked lot on running game first day of padded practices. Saquon Barkley looks explosive.
First-team offense didn’t make many plays in pass game. Had Daniel Jones 5-of-13 passing. Only big pass play was his first pass to rookie Wan’Dale Robinson, who continues to shine.
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants - the inverse of what Daboll spoke about with the QBs is that he also sometimes tells them to hold the ball a bit and then let it rip into tight coverage, trying to thread the needle....can't hit a tough pass in a game if you don't practice them
What have you read about Jones today? I’ve not seen anything negative.
Stop reading and start watching... clips are all over the place showing him struggle. He's holding the ball to long, throwing behind receivers, he's getting "sacked" a bunch, he gets picked off throwing simple screen passes... the list has goes and has gone on and on
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants Jackson - impressed with ARob...watched a lot of tape on him and he works hard
Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
Jackson said Darnay Holmes “sticks to the script.” He likes the way he works every day. He never worries about the past. He sees growth in him as a person, which allows him to grow as a player. They’ve known each other going back to high school days.
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants - the inverse of what Daboll spoke about with the QBs is that he also sometimes tells them to hold the ball a bit and then let it rip into tight coverage, trying to thread the needle....can't hit a tough pass in a game if you don't practice them
Maybe this explains how poor Daniel has looked IMV but seems like a weird way to coach at the same time... IDK... I'm not hitting the alarm rn but I am panicking just a little... if he sucks it up early I think I'm going to be leading the "we want Tyrod" chants
pre-draft. Based on everything I listened to and read, the knock was more accurately characterized as, when his first move and counter were neutralized, there was a perceptible level of, shall we say, defeatist attitude.
No mention of that in these camp reports so far, but I'd be interested if the boots on the ground see anything like this. Thanks.
pre-draft. Based on everything I listened to and read, the knock was more accurately characterized as, when his first move and counter were neutralized, there was a perceptible level of, shall we say, defeatist attitude.
No mention of that in these camp reports so far, but I'd be interested if the boots on the ground see anything like this. Thanks.
Subject line should be -Regarding the takes plays off reports-
If you guys remember from his first training camp, he was remarkably accurate, hitting guys in stride, something Eli struggled in. This was mentioned in threads repeatedly.
Besides coaching him to make tight window throws (which he did a LOT as a rookie), Daboll has to de-program Jones from Garrett's "don't you dare make a mistake" offense.
Jones may be unfixable, but Daboll is going to try to get the most out of him. I expected struggles early. Taylor has looked better because he knows the playbook having been in Buffalo.
Let it play out.
If you guys remember from his first training camp, he was remarkably accurate, hitting guys in stride, something Eli struggled in. This was mentioned in threads repeatedly.
Besides coaching him to make tight window throws (which he did a LOT as a rookie), Daboll has to de-program Jones from Garrett's "don't you dare make a mistake" offense.
Jones may be unfixable, but Daboll is going to try to get the most out of him. I expected struggles early. Taylor has looked better because he knows the playbook having been in Buffalo.
Let it play out.
Career completion percentages:
Eli Manning: 60.3 percent
Daniel Jones 62.8 percent
If you guys remember from his first training camp, he was remarkably accurate, hitting guys in stride, something Eli struggled in. This was mentioned in threads repeatedly.
Besides coaching him to make tight window throws (which he did a LOT as a rookie), Daboll has to de-program Jones from Garrett's "don't you dare make a mistake" offense.
Jones may be unfixable, but Daboll is going to try to get the most out of him. I expected struggles early. Taylor has looked better because he knows the playbook having been in Buffalo.
Let it play out.
Daboll and Taylor weren't in Buffalo togetherness. Daboll was brought on to be the OC the year after Tyrod left
You won't be able to tell a thing about Jones in these
practices, so why do some try? Daboll has said things like :"I ask the QB sometimes to throw it up in a tight situation just to see what the db will do" or
"I ask the QB to hold the ball longer and then deliver it into tight coverage just to practice that".
So we don't know what is really happening. I don't know if Jones will be good or not, but living and dying on a 2 hr practice in August, where you have no idea what is happening and why, is nuts
practices, so why do some try? Daboll has said things like :"I ask the QB sometimes to throw it up in a tight situation just to see what the db will do" or
"I ask the QB to hold the ball longer and then deliver it into tight coverage just to practice that".
So we don't know what is really happening. I don't know if Jones will be good or not, but living and dying on a 2 hr practice in August, where you have no idea what is happening and why, is nuts
Wait for the games.
Exactly - not to mention those screaming to "watch the tape" are only getting snippets of a controlled practice from an iPhone without any context for what the offense is trying to do. I'm not saying DJ will be great this year, but making DJ evaluations at this point is a little foolish.
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Oshane Ximines had some nice wins in 1v1 pass rushes today, but his offsides penalties outnumbered those victories. Remember it was his costly jump offsides in Tampa last year that basically ended his season.
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Oshane Ximines had some nice wins in 1v1 pass rushes today, but his offsides penalties outnumbered those victories. Remember it was his costly jump offsides in Tampa last year that basically ended his season.
I thought Ximines' season was ended by his offside penalty in Kansas City, not Tampa Bay.
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Giants held a free agent workout after today’s practice. Wonder if we see a transaction related to any of the injured players later today…
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Giants rookie safety Dane Belton has a broken collarbone, per sources. Tough break for the fourth-round pick. Was making a real strong impression.
Belton will be sidelined an extended period of time. There still remains hope he can be ready for the start of the season.
RE: Jones has always been inaccurate, this shouldn't surprise
would "zip it" on Jones. We know he's had every disadvantage a QB can possibly have. That's not an excuse, its a fact.
He didn't get an extension (wise decision by NYG). But jeez, let's see how this plays out a bit with the hope of an NFL caliber OL, play callers and a few weapons. If it doesn't go well, call him Dave Brown 2.0 to your hearts content. But to spout off 4 practices in? Odd.
would "zip it" on Jones. We know he's had every disadvantage a QB can possibly have. That's not an excuse, its a fact.
He didn't get an extension (wise decision by NYG). But jeez, let's see how this plays out a bit with the hope of an NFL caliber OL, play callers and a few weapons. If it doesn't go well, call him Dave Brown 2.0 to your hearts content. But to spout off 4 practices in? Odd.
why are you opposed to the free exchange of ideas? And there is plenty of data, presented by me and others, to suggest that Jones' disadvantages are overstated. The problem with Jones, just may be Jones.
I don't know what a "Jones stans" is but I do know that this is a useless argument on Day 4 of camp.
Maybe he's Dave Brown 2.0 or alternatively. maybe with the benefit of some NFL caliber combo of OL, weapons, coaching he's some middle tier QB e.g. Ryan Tannehill. I don't know. But let's see the thing play out a bit shall we?
I don't know what a "Jones stans" is but I do know that this is a useless argument on Day 4 of camp.
Maybe he's Dave Brown 2.0 or alternatively. maybe with the benefit of some NFL caliber combo of OL, weapons, coaching he's some middle tier QB e.g. Ryan Tannehill. I don't know. But let's see the thing play out a bit shall we?
Day 4 of camp or August of year 4 with the same issues?
@giantswfan
#Giants - Taylor runs in untouched from the 2
@BobbySkinner_
Giants training camp Day 5 thots
•Saquon looks explosive and starting O ran the ball well
•Daniel Jones finished the day w/ 6 straight incompletions
•Shane Lemieux is looking really good
•Aaron Robinson had an awesome day
•Wink sent the house on 3rd down everytime
@GiantInsider
First padded practice is over. Pretty uneventful day, worked a lot on running plays.
@BobbySkinner_
Giants training camp Day 5 thots
•Saquon looks explosive and starting O ran the ball well
•Daniel Jones finished the day w/ 6 straight incompletions
•Shane Lemieux is looking really good
•Aaron Robinson had an awesome day
•Wink sent the house on 3rd down everytime
6 straight incompletions without a turnover breaking the streak is improvement though, right?
@BobbySkinner_
Saquon Barkley looks really good and was hitting the hole hard in the first day of full pads and running the ball.
Offense runs well with Shane Lemieux at C & Josh Ezeudu at LG
The Giant Insider Newspaper & Podcast
@GiantInsider
One quick observation: The interior of the O-line is definitely struggling against Leo and Dex. Even Justin Ellis got some push today.
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GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants Daboll - some times in practice you just ask the QB to throw it up because you simply want to see how the DBs play that ball..
That should be effortless for Daniel Jones
INTs have not been an issue for Jones. Where do people get this stuff from? His INT percentage has fallen every year, and was the same as Murray's in 2020 and better than Murray's and Herbert's in 2021, and better than two of Mahommes' four years as a starter (including 2021). His 1.9 INT percentage last year was better than Allen's 2.3. And how much better would it have been if Engram didn't cause multiple INTs with deflections.
He had one game where turnovers were an issue last year, the Rams game when he came back from a concussion the week before (and likely shouldn't have played) when he threw 3 of his total 7 INTS. So he had 4 INTS in his other 10 games.
He also had 2 fumbles (one lost) in that Rams game (one lost). In the other 10 games he had 5 fumbles (2 lost). So in 10 games not using the game a week after a concussion, he had 4 INTS and 2 fumbles lost. For comparison, Josh Allen had 8 fumbles (3 lost) in 17 games (along with his 15 INTs). Take that to 10 games and it would have been 4.6 fumbles and 1.6 lost.
For those who have eyes, they should be able to see this clearly…..but to those who are blind, nothing you write will mean anything to them. In order not to get discouraged just remind yourself you are not writing to please that latter group, the blind guys…..you are writing to enlighten those who are walking in the darkness, but not blind (still hope).
Keep up the good work.
@BobbySkinner_
Saquon Barkley looks really good and was hitting the hole hard in the first day of full pads and running the ball.
Offense runs well with Shane Lemieux at C & Josh Ezeudu at LG
The Giant Insider Newspaper & Podcast
@GiantInsider
One quick observation: The interior of the O-line is definitely struggling against Leo and Dex. Even Justin Ellis got some push today.
BTW, note the conflicting narratives here... this is why you can't take anything from an observer as gospel.
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Bobby Skinner
@BobbySkinner_
Saquon Barkley looks really good and was hitting the hole hard in the first day of full pads and running the ball.
Offense runs well with Shane Lemieux at C & Josh Ezeudu at LG
The Giant Insider Newspaper & Podcast
@GiantInsider
One quick observation: The interior of the O-line is definitely struggling against Leo and Dex. Even Justin Ellis got some push today.
BTW, note the conflicting narratives here... this is why you can't take anything from an observer as gospel.
It is up to us to be objective and not always go with the information that we want to hear.
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Bobby Skinner
@BobbySkinner_
Saquon Barkley looks really good and was hitting the hole hard in the first day of full pads and running the ball.
Offense runs well with Shane Lemieux at C & Josh Ezeudu at LG
The Giant Insider Newspaper & Podcast
@GiantInsider
One quick observation: The interior of the O-line is definitely struggling against Leo and Dex. Even Justin Ellis got some push today.
BTW, note the conflicting narratives here... this is why you can't take anything from an observer as gospel.
I was thinking the same exact thing when I read that
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Bobby Skinner
@BobbySkinner_
Saquon Barkley looks really good and was hitting the hole hard in the first day of full pads and running the ball.
Offense runs well with Shane Lemieux at C & Josh Ezeudu at LG
The Giant Insider Newspaper & Podcast
@GiantInsider
One quick observation: The interior of the O-line is definitely struggling against Leo and Dex. Even Justin Ellis got some push today.
BTW, note the conflicting narratives here... this is why you can't take anything from an observer as gospel.
It is up to us to be objective and not always go with the information that we want to hear.
I think the point is that two different people commented on the same area of the team (IOL) and have two completely different takes on it.
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In comment 15767926 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 15767923 Eric from BBI said:
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Bobby Skinner
@BobbySkinner_
Saquon Barkley looks really good and was hitting the hole hard in the first day of full pads and running the ball.
Offense runs well with Shane Lemieux at C & Josh Ezeudu at LG
The Giant Insider Newspaper & Podcast
@GiantInsider
One quick observation: The interior of the O-line is definitely struggling against Leo and Dex. Even Justin Ellis got some push today.
BTW, note the conflicting narratives here... this is why you can't take anything from an observer as gospel.
It is up to us to be objective and not always go with the information that we want to hear.
I think the point is that two different people commented on the same area of the team (IOL) and have two completely different takes on it.
Right, I did not meant to come off as if I was somehow challenging that post. If we have different views, then there will be different takes. It is not uncommon for us fans to accept the view that we agree with.
I like the view that Barkley looked explosive, but I gotta see it first, and consistently.
What have you read about Jones today? I’ve not seen anything negative.
He looks... Bad.
Inaccurate, indecisive and weak arm. It's really the Indecisive part that kills me the most... this guy holds the ball to long throwing against just air!!!
I am seriously beginning to doubt he will ever put it all together and I'm starting to wonder if Tyrod would be better/win more games with this team... not to mention Jimmy G
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Daniel Jones getting extra work post-practice with WRs David Sills (obviously) and Collin Johnson
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Giants may be trying out some players today. We are doing interviews outside instead of on their indoor field. Saw some evaluators go in
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Giants worked lot on running game first day of padded practices. Saquon Barkley looks explosive.
First-team offense didn’t make many plays in pass game. Had Daniel Jones 5-of-13 passing. Only big pass play was his first pass to rookie Wan’Dale Robinson, who continues to shine.
@giantswfan
#Giants - the inverse of what Daboll spoke about with the QBs is that he also sometimes tells them to hold the ball a bit and then let it rip into tight coverage, trying to thread the needle....can't hit a tough pass in a game if you don't practice them
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will he still be starting by Halloween?
What have you read about Jones today? I’ve not seen anything negative.
Stop reading and start watching... clips are all over the place showing him struggle. He's holding the ball to long, throwing behind receivers, he's getting "sacked" a bunch, he gets picked off throwing simple screen passes... the list has goes and has gone on and on
@giantswfan
#Giants Jackson - impressed with ARob...watched a lot of tape on him and he works hard
Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
Jackson said Darnay Holmes “sticks to the script.” He likes the way he works every day. He never worries about the past. He sees growth in him as a person, which allows him to grow as a player. They’ve known each other going back to high school days.
@giantswfan
#Giants - the inverse of what Daboll spoke about with the QBs is that he also sometimes tells them to hold the ball a bit and then let it rip into tight coverage, trying to thread the needle....can't hit a tough pass in a game if you don't practice them
Maybe this explains how poor Daniel has looked IMV but seems like a weird way to coach at the same time... IDK... I'm not hitting the alarm rn but I am panicking just a little... if he sucks it up early I think I'm going to be leading the "we want Tyrod" chants
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There was a lot of focus on the run game today. As for the passing offense, umm, it’s still early…
No mention of that in these camp reports so far, but I'd be interested if the boots on the ground see anything like this. Thanks.
No mention of that in these camp reports so far, but I'd be interested if the boots on the ground see anything like this. Thanks.
Subject line should be -Regarding the takes plays off reports-
pre-draft.
Dropped the ball on quotation mark usage.
Bobby Skinner @BobbySkinner_
Had Daniel Jones at 5/13 today which ended with 6 straight incompletions.
Ball came out much quicker than previous days but had some misses paired w/ WR’s locked up in man.
Ahhh, no.
Besides coaching him to make tight window throws (which he did a LOT as a rookie), Daboll has to de-program Jones from Garrett's "don't you dare make a mistake" offense.
Jones may be unfixable, but Daboll is going to try to get the most out of him. I expected struggles early. Taylor has looked better because he knows the playbook having been in Buffalo.
Let it play out.
Besides coaching him to make tight window throws (which he did a LOT as a rookie), Daboll has to de-program Jones from Garrett's "don't you dare make a mistake" offense.
Jones may be unfixable, but Daboll is going to try to get the most out of him. I expected struggles early. Taylor has looked better because he knows the playbook having been in Buffalo.
Let it play out.
Career completion percentages:
Eli Manning: 60.3 percent
Daniel Jones 62.8 percent
Besides coaching him to make tight window throws (which he did a LOT as a rookie), Daboll has to de-program Jones from Garrett's "don't you dare make a mistake" offense.
Jones may be unfixable, but Daboll is going to try to get the most out of him. I expected struggles early. Taylor has looked better because he knows the playbook having been in Buffalo.
Let it play out.
Daboll and Taylor weren't in Buffalo togetherness. Daboll was brought on to be the OC the year after Tyrod left
"I ask the QB to hold the ball longer and then deliver it into tight coverage just to practice that".
So we don't know what is really happening. I don't know if Jones will be good or not, but living and dying on a 2 hr practice in August, where you have no idea what is happening and why, is nuts
Wait for the games.
Not Harry Carson.
"I ask the QB to hold the ball longer and then deliver it into tight coverage just to practice that".
So we don't know what is really happening. I don't know if Jones will be good or not, but living and dying on a 2 hr practice in August, where you have no idea what is happening and why, is nuts
Wait for the games.
Exactly - not to mention those screaming to "watch the tape" are only getting snippets of a controlled practice from an iPhone without any context for what the offense is trying to do. I'm not saying DJ will be great this year, but making DJ evaluations at this point is a little foolish.
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Oshane Ximines had some nice wins in 1v1 pass rushes today, but his offsides penalties outnumbered those victories. Remember it was his costly jump offsides in Tampa last year that basically ended his season.
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Oshane Ximines had some nice wins in 1v1 pass rushes today, but his offsides penalties outnumbered those victories. Remember it was his costly jump offsides in Tampa last year that basically ended his season.
I thought Ximines' season was ended by his offside penalty in Kansas City, not Tampa Bay.
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Darrian Beavers very active, young man off to a nice start of camp
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Giants held a free agent workout after today’s practice. Wonder if we see a transaction related to any of the injured players later today…
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Giants rookie safety Dane Belton has a broken collarbone, per sources. Tough break for the fourth-round pick. Was making a real strong impression.
Belton will be sidelined an extended period of time. There still remains hope he can be ready for the start of the season.
Oh, you mean when he's had one second to throw and no starting receivers???
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The numbers have always said that. The eye test has always said that.
Ahhh, no.
Here are Daniel Jones' ranks in completion pct through his career. And I don't think I need to tell you that completion pct is a measure of accuracy.
2019: 24th
2020: 31st
2021: 23rd
Are these the rankings of an accurate NFL passer?
He didn't get an extension (wise decision by NYG). But jeez, let's see how this plays out a bit with the hope of an NFL caliber OL, play callers and a few weapons. If it doesn't go well, call him Dave Brown 2.0 to your hearts content. But to spout off 4 practices in? Odd.
He didn't get an extension (wise decision by NYG). But jeez, let's see how this plays out a bit with the hope of an NFL caliber OL, play callers and a few weapons. If it doesn't go well, call him Dave Brown 2.0 to your hearts content. But to spout off 4 practices in? Odd.
why are you opposed to the free exchange of ideas? And there is plenty of data, presented by me and others, to suggest that Jones' disadvantages are overstated. The problem with Jones, just may be Jones.
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I don't know what a "Jones stans" is but I do know that this is a useless argument on Day 4 of camp.
Maybe he's Dave Brown 2.0 or alternatively. maybe with the benefit of some NFL caliber combo of OL, weapons, coaching he's some middle tier QB e.g. Ryan Tannehill. I don't know. But let's see the thing play out a bit shall we?
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Still standing firm is incredible
I don't know what a "Jones stans" is but I do know that this is a useless argument on Day 4 of camp.
Maybe he's Dave Brown 2.0 or alternatively. maybe with the benefit of some NFL caliber combo of OL, weapons, coaching he's some middle tier QB e.g. Ryan Tannehill. I don't know. But let's see the thing play out a bit shall we?
Day 4 of camp or August of year 4 with the same issues?