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Wednesday NYG Training Camp Updates

Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/3/2022 6:30 am


Wednesday, August 3, 2022

Head Coach Brian Daboll – Approx. 9:30 a.m.

Practice – 10:00 a.m. – 12:00 p.m.

Players Available – Approx. 12:10 p.m.

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If someone from 30 years ago  
M.S. : 8/3/2022 6:50 am : link

attended an NFL summer training camp, and then fell asleep for 3 decades, and then suddenly woke up in a current-day camp, he'd swear the league had converted to flag football.
RE: If someone from 30 years ago  
jvm52106 : 8/3/2022 7:29 am : link
In comment 15770529 M.S. said:
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attended an NFL summer training camp, and then fell asleep for 3 decades, and then suddenly woke up in a current-day camp, he'd swear the league had converted to flag football.


Right. Remember 2 a days
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/3/2022 8:18 am : link
Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
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3m
Going back through my notes from camp, I wrote down Giants rookie DT Chris Hinton's name a few times as far as someone who was standing out.

Including in that: two good reps in 1-on-1s when the pads went on Monday. He's a player who could be positioned well in preseason games.
RE: ...  
jvm52106 : 8/3/2022 8:44 am : link
In comment 15770573 Eric from BBI said:
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Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
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3m
Going back through my notes from camp, I wrote down Giants rookie DT Chris Hinton's name a few times as far as someone who was standing out.

Including in that: two good reps in 1-on-1s when the pads went on Monday. He's a player who could be positioned well in preseason games.


I loved this signing and I really hope he makes it.
RE: ...  
M.S. : 8/3/2022 8:45 am : link
In comment 15770573 Eric from BBI said:
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Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
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3m
Going back through my notes from camp, I wrote down Giants rookie DT Chris Hinton's name a few times as far as someone who was standing out.

Including in that: two good reps in 1-on-1s when the pads went on Monday. He's a player who could be positioned well in preseason games.

That's real good to hear because -- after Leonard Williams and Dexter Lawrence -- do the Giants have ANY D-linemen that could be classified as at least "average"?

The NFL is a passing league and blah, blah, blah, but never saw a team win jack that couldn't stop the run.
RE: RE: ...  
Klaatu : 8/3/2022 8:53 am : link
In comment 15770593 M.S. said:
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In comment 15770573 Eric from BBI said:


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Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
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3m
Going back through my notes from camp, I wrote down Giants rookie DT Chris Hinton's name a few times as far as someone who was standing out.

Including in that: two good reps in 1-on-1s when the pads went on Monday. He's a player who could be positioned well in preseason games.


That's real good to hear because -- after Leonard Williams and Dexter Lawrence -- do the Giants have ANY D-linemen that could be classified as at least "average"?

The NFL is a passing league and blah, blah, blah, but never saw a team win jack that couldn't stop the run.


They invested a 5th Round pick in D.J. Davidson, who's best described as an early-down run-stuffer, backup NT. He's not a finished product, but I figure they see him developing into a capable role player. Not spectacular, but solid.
Stop the run game...  
Brown_Hornet : 8/3/2022 9:12 am : link
...with your Nickel on the field.

RE: Stop the run game...  
ChrisRick : 8/3/2022 9:29 am : link
In comment 15770613 Brown_Hornet said:
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...with your Nickel on the field.


Yep, that is where the league is now.
I mentioned taking the good with the bad in another thread.  
Klaatu : 8/3/2022 9:30 am : link
But do we really need Justin Penik's take on mustard (or any of his other goofy bullshit) in order to hear from Bobby Skinner?
RE: I mentioned taking the good with the bad in another thread.  
ChrisRick : 8/3/2022 9:33 am : link
In comment 15770631 Klaatu said:
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But do we really need Justin Penik's take on mustard (or any of his other goofy bullshit) in order to hear from Bobby Skinner?


See, I am the other way around; after his take on mustard I was satisfied, so I stopped listening
The Football is Family  
ATL_Giants : 8/3/2022 9:33 am : link
pics are especially nice to see.
Working on 1st and 2nd Downs today.  
Klaatu : 8/3/2022 9:34 am : link
I wonder if we'll see more running plays? I still have a sneaking suspicion that the Giants will run a bit more than we figure, passing league notwithstanding. They just seem built to do it well.
RE: Stop the run game...  
Angel Eyes : 8/3/2022 9:34 am : link
In comment 15770613 Brown_Hornet said:
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...with your Nickel on the field.

This makes me think of an article on the Packers about 5 years ago that suggested they shift to a 4-3, with nickel personnel: three linemen on the field, two rushbackers, and a safety/linebacker hybrid instead of a nickel corner.
What if the Packers switched to a 4-3 defense full-time? - ( New Window )
Good to hear that Hinton is showing promise.  
Big Blue Blogger : 8/3/2022 9:41 am : link
Obvious caveat is that the starting center has been out, the backups are dubious, and the guards are nothing special either. Still, with Ellis a one-year stopgap, it would be a huge win if Davidson and Hinton could fill the interior by 2023.
RE: RE: Stop the run game...  
Brown_Hornet : 8/3/2022 9:44 am : link
In comment 15770642 Angel Eyes said:
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In comment 15770613 Brown_Hornet said:


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...with your Nickel on the field.



This makes me think of an article on the Packers about 5 years ago that suggested they shift to a 4-3, with nickel personnel: three linemen on the field, two rushbackers, and a safety/linebacker hybrid instead of a nickel corner. What if the Packers switched to a 4-3 defense full-time? - ( New Window )
The personnel grouping in the front 7 (or 6) isn't, IMO, the "why" teams can be stout vs. the run. I prefer an odd front but an OLB is going to bump it to and even 50% of the time anyway.
Athletes win at every level of the game. Get your athletes and playmakers on the field.

A S/LB hybrid (NickelBacker) is absolutely my choice in a nickel base.
RE: Working on 1st and 2nd Downs today.  
Angel Eyes : 8/3/2022 9:46 am : link
In comment 15770641 Klaatu said:
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I wonder if we'll see more running plays? I still have a sneaking suspicion that the Giants will run a bit more than we figure, passing league notwithstanding. They just seem built to do it well.

Just hope Daboll and Kafka can be a bit more creative with the runs. I like a power running style as much as anyone (I wanted the Giants to draft Hassan Haskins this year) but that doesn't work with Saquon. Didn't see a lot of off-tackle runs with Garrett as the OC.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/3/2022 9:52 am : link
Dan Duggan

@DDuggan21
Players who won’t practice today:

• RB Antonio Williams (injured knee yesterday)
• WR Robert Foster (injured yesterday)
• TE Ricky Seals-Jones (5th straight missed practice)
• OL Matt Gono (?)
• CB Rodarius Williams (hasn’t done team drills past 2 days, returning from ACL)
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/3/2022 9:54 am : link
Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
Daboll said today will be first and second down work with the pads. There will be a 9-on-7 run drill.

GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants Daboll - jones making good decisons and progress and trusting his reads....on one of the two picks, the target slipped a little

Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
Daboll said DJ is making progress and trusting his reads. Daboll said when you’re a coach you try not to ride the wave play by play when breaking down film. He tries to keep the players as “level-headed” as possible.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/3/2022 9:55 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants Daboll - primary focus for jones and the other QBs is to make the right play, regardless of the result

Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
Daboll said everything is “risk-reward” for a quarterback. Now is the time to take some chances. “Really what I want is Daniel to make the right play.” Daboll said he has steadily improved with a new language in a new system.

Pat Leonard

@PLeonardNYDN
Brian Daboll said Daniel Jones did good things Tuesday. He doesn’t like to overreact to positive or negative day to day. Said can’t have INTs. One was slip by skill player, other was good play by Adoree Jackson. Says Jones has steadily improved. #
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/3/2022 9:56 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants Daboll - still trying to figure out what this team runs well.....sometimes you pick out a play and just throw it out - or maybe practice it more

Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
Daboll said they have routes where a receiver can do “a lot of different things.” Body language is critical in the communication with the QB.

Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
Daboll said Feliciano is good to go today. He’s ready to practice.

GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants Daboll - feliciano is a full go today but will be managed
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/3/2022 9:57 am : link
Ryan Dunleavy

@rydunleavy
Jon Feliciano will be back in practice but probably managed reps. Daboll says the 4-practice absence was scout heat and hydration and today is hot again. #Giants
Feliciano  
ColHowPepper : 8/3/2022 10:28 am : link
What does it say when a 30-year old professional athlete needs five days (4 practice + Sunday) to recover from heat exhaustion? Is it just poor conditioning, some other physical condition? In my mind, not much positive.
ColHowPepper  
mittenedman : 8/3/2022 10:43 am : link
I think at this point, it's probably safe to assume it wasn't just heat-related. As you know, what's released for public consumption does not align with reality.

It will be interesting to see if they want JF as the starting C, or if they prefer to use Lemieux there with Ezeudu at G. If there's anything Feliciano has demonstrated, he's a bit unreliable. And his lack of athleticism hurts their ability to run outside zone - which is Barkley's best play. Perhaps he's best served as the primary interior backup.

RE: ...  
GeofromNJ : 8/3/2022 10:44 am : link
In comment 15770573 Eric from BBI said:
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Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
·
3m
Going back through my notes from camp, I wrote down Giants rookie DT Chris Hinton's name a few times as far as someone who was standing out.

Including in that: two good reps in 1-on-1s when the pads went on Monday. He's a player who could be positioned well in preseason games.

When I saw the name Chris Hinton, I thought it was an old comment and Stapleton was talking about the Colts OT. Turns out the Giants Chris Hinton is the son of the Colts Chris Hinton.
mittenedman  
ColHowPepper : 8/3/2022 10:56 am : link
don't disagree with any of that even if hoping for Lemieux at C is itself wishing for a pig in a poke. Very early days yet, but Ezeudu seems to have been a shrewd pick
RE: Feliciano  
Rudy5757 : 8/3/2022 10:59 am : link
In comment 15770704 ColHowPepper said:
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What does it say when a 30-year old professional athlete needs five days (4 practice + Sunday) to recover from heat exhaustion? Is it just poor conditioning, some other physical condition? In my mind, not much positive.


Could also be just being cautious. We really dont have a true backup so maybe they took the opportunity to get him some rest and the other guys some reps in the process. Heat exhaustion is no joke either and should be treated wit caution
Jalyn Holmes with the ones again.  
Klaatu : 8/3/2022 10:59 am : link
That's an interesting development.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/3/2022 11:15 am : link
Dan Duggan

@DDuggan21
Don’t hold your breath on Kadarius Toney returning kicks this year. Toney and Kenny Golladay go do receiving work on the side during special teams periods.

Justin Penik
@JustinPenik
Quincy Roche gets the best of Evan Neal on a spin move and Darrian Beavers goes outside to inside on Josh Ezeudu in 1v1’s

Pat Leonard

@PLeonardNYDN
Replying to @PLeonardNYDN
Thibodeaux draws a hold on Evan Neal. Neal also lost to Quincy Roche on a spin move earlier #Giants
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/3/2022 11:15 am : link
Dan Duggan

@DDuggan21
Will post videos later, but quick takeaways from OL/DL 1-on-1:

• Leonard Williams remains unblockable

• Jon Feliciano had 2 good reps vs. Dexter Lawrence

• Andrew Thomas continues to look very solid

• Evan Neal has had some rough moments. Quincy Roche put him in a blender
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/3/2022 11:16 am : link
Tom Rock

@TomRock_Newsday
Jalyn Holmes playing DL w the 1s just dominated a whole series of running plays in 9v7 drills.

GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants 11 on 11 - first session all runs...Corbin and Brighwell each had an explosive run

Talkin’ Giants
@TalkinGiants
Saquon out in space! Wide zone off the Left Tackle with a lot of room

GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants second 11 on 11 - Barkley two very sharp cuts and a burst on a long run around the left side
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/3/2022 11:17 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants - taylor bomb mishandled by board for incomplete
....perfect throw
At least Golladay made a nice play  
Anakim : 8/3/2022 11:19 am : link
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If both Thibs and Neal sucks ass  
Spiciest Memelord : 8/3/2022 11:20 am : link
well at least we have the inside track to drafting Will Anderson. Throw in Belton and Bellinger are mysteriously dinged up.
Has there been any positive  
Silver Spoon : 8/3/2022 11:23 am : link
speak of Neal? He appears to be manhandled on a daily basis, including bums like X-man.
New nickname for Wink D  
Spiciest Memelord : 8/3/2022 11:26 am : link
The Bum Rush
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/3/2022 11:27 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants - jones with a dart to Board over the middle and big YAC on the play

GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants - Breida with a strong run through the right side....then Barkley explodes around the left end

Bobby Skinner
@BobbySkinner_
Giants OL is looking pretty good run blocking wise. Running Backs are getting way more space and time to operate.

Patricia Traina

@Patricia_Traina
Barkley looks so explosive. If he stays healthy he’s gonna have a monster year. #giants

GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants - Taylor drops in a perfect connection with Slayton, who has put up two good back to back days

GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants - taylor lofts a long completion to an open Bachman

GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants - RAnderson blew up a run in the backfield

Tom Rock

@TomRock_Newsday
Andrew Thomas gobbles up Oshane Ximines in 1v1 pass pro drill.
Williams and Dex blowing up July and August  
Spiciest Memelord : 8/3/2022 11:30 am : link
likely a function of how shitty our interior oline is which on paper is the case.
RE: Williams and Dex blowing up July and August  
GNewGiants : 8/3/2022 11:34 am : link
In comment 15770787 Spiciest Memelord said:
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likely a function of how shitty our interior oline is which on paper is the case.


Not as shitty as some of our posters who post nonsense without seeing action in preseason practice.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/3/2022 11:36 am : link
Bobby Skinner
@BobbySkinner_
BEAUTIFUL Throw and contested catch from Daniel Jones to Kenny Golladay. It happened. We were happy.
Spiciest Memelord  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/3/2022 11:36 am : link
WTF are you babbling about?

You might have some of the worst takes on the site.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/3/2022 11:37 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants - Golladay a spectacular climb the stairs 50/50 catch from Jones over Jackson down the right side
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/3/2022 11:40 am : link
Pat Leonard

@PLeonardNYDN
Kenny Golladay is having a strong practice. Just went up for a jump ball on the sidelines against Adoree Jackson in 11 on 11. Also caught one intermediate on Aaron Robinson. Also beat Jackson down sideline in individuals for a deep one. #Giants

GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants - Jones rifles a complete to left side as Golladay shields ARobinson

Patricia Traina

@Patricia_Traina
Golladay made the play of the day on a comeback route. Caught the ball and just barely stayed in bounds as Adoree Jackson was covering.

Pat Leonard

@PLeonardNYDN
Giants center Jon Feliciano lasted about half the practice before Jamil Douglas replaced him with the first team offense.

Collin Johnson, who has made plays all camp, just cracked the first team offense for some snaps. #Giants Kadarius Toney dialed back a 2nd day this camp.
RE: mittenedman  
GeofromNJ : 8/3/2022 11:46 am : link
In comment 15770734 ColHowPepper said:
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don't disagree with any of that even if hoping for Lemieux at C is itself wishing for a pig in a poke. Very early days yet, but Ezeudu seems to have been a shrewd pick

Shortly after the draft I felt that Ezeudu would end up playing center for the Giants. He has size, more than enough power, and the intelligence to play the position. It will be an interesting pre-season.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/3/2022 11:47 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants - taylor left flat to Breida (busted coverage) ...turns on the jets and races for long TD....Bachman nice downfield block

Talkin’ Giants
@TalkinGiants
Both UNC Guards are playing Tackle for the 2nd team

Tom Rock

@TomRock_Newsday
Really sharp drive by 1st O for a TD. Starts w leaping sideline grab by Golladay, hook pass to KG to convert 3rd down, another 3rd conv on pass to Sills, then screen to Saquon for TD w little 180 lb Wan’Dale leading the way into the end zone as a blocker.

The first catch by Kenny was first I have seen in camp where you can say “There! That’s what Golladay should be giving them!” Soneone/something seems to have woken up Kenny.

Second O scored too on a long run by Matt Breida, flashing his Cheetah nickname.
RE: RE: mittenedman  
Lines of Scrimmage : 8/3/2022 11:51 am : link
In comment 15770809 GeofromNJ said:
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In comment 15770734 ColHowPepper said:


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don't disagree with any of that even if hoping for Lemieux at C is itself wishing for a pig in a poke. Very early days yet, but Ezeudu seems to have been a shrewd pick


Shortly after the draft I felt that Ezeudu would end up playing center for the Giants. He has size, more than enough power, and the intelligence to play the position. It will be an interesting pre-season.


Mack Brown thinks he would be a great center. They were going to move him at UNC to center but he had the stuttering issue which he worked really hard and has overcome. Mack's thoughts were on that podcast that was posted.

Maybe the Giants don't want to overload him for now but he seems like he is going to be one of those guys who can play anywhere.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/3/2022 11:55 am : link
Dan Duggan

@DDuggan21
Another very crisp passing day for Daniel Jones. Just went 6-for-6 on a drive, highlighted by a deep strike to Kenny Golladay down the sideline and a short TD on a swing pass to Saquon.

Pat Leonard

@PLeonardNYDN
Daniel Jones just went 6-for-6 on a nice drive capped by a short swing pass TD to Saquon Barkley. Completions to Kenny Golladay (2), Wan’Dale Robinson, TE Andre Miller & David Sills #Giants

GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants - Webb hits Doss on a deep fade in the left corner for a TD

Bobby Skinner
@BobbySkinner_
Had Daniel Jones at 9/10 with 1 TD & 1 drop today.

Spreading the ball around and a great throw to Kenny Golladay for the play of the day.

Ryan Dunleavy

@rydunleavy
In the period at the end of practice, #Giants first, second and third team offenses all drove the field for TDs. Scores on catches by Saquon on a swing, Brieda on a long catch and run and Keelan Doss skyikg in the end zone

Bobby Skinner
@BobbySkinner_
Giants Day 7 Training Camp thots

•Daniel Jones 9/10 with a great day
•Kenny Golladay had catch of day with great day overall
•Jon Feliciano looked good in 1 on 1’s v. Dex
•Remembering that Oshane Ximines is bad in the run
•Kadarius Toney didn’t practice at the end, idk why
Nice  
Anakim : 8/3/2022 11:58 am : link
We need to see more of that from Golladay
RE: ...  
John In CO : 8/3/2022 12:04 pm : link
In comment 15770670 Eric from BBI said:
[quote] GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants Daboll - still trying to figure out what this team runs well.....sometimes you pick out a play and just throw it out - or maybe practice it more

Yes, Coach......you and many many others. Been trying to figure that out for years. No easy answers for this one!
GeofromNJ LOS  
ColHowPepper : 8/3/2022 12:23 pm : link
It gives me a lot of pleasure when a FO, but most especially a Giants' FO which has been so bad for so long, maybe gets things very right.

In particular, speaking for myself alone but informed by all the pre-draft info on the site, when Ezeudu in the 3rd and McKethan last pick in 5th, the initial reactions were Who? WTF? Why, when so and so is still on the board? Frustration, aarggh. LOL

I knew nothing about either guy, but it's now a ton of fun to think that Schoen and his staff got some players, maybe not as well known or touted as those sitting there at those junctures, but.....at long last..maybe..players!!
RE: RE: If someone from 30 years ago  
Blueworm : 8/3/2022 12:25 pm : link
In comment 15770549 jvm52106 said:
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In comment 15770529 M.S. said:


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attended an NFL summer training camp, and then fell asleep for 3 decades, and then suddenly woke up in a current-day camp, he'd swear the league had converted to flag football.



Right. Remember 2 a days

I had a college coach who thought he'd get cute -we had three a day.
One was entirely individual, and one specials.
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