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Robinson couldn’t contain his smile when asked about the package with him, Toney and Saquon in the backfield together. Clearly exciting potential with that grouping
attended an NFL summer training camp, and then fell asleep for 3 decades, and then suddenly woke up in a current-day camp, he'd swear the league had converted to flag football.
True. Parcells and company ran some brutal practices.
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@DDuggan21
Robinson couldn’t contain his smile when asked about the package with him, Toney and Saquon in the backfield together. Clearly exciting potential with that grouping
I can't contain my smile thinking about Robinson not being able to contain his smile! The package with him, Toney and Saquon in the backfield together could be very exciting!
speak of Neal? He appears to be manhandled on a daily basis, including bums like X-man.
Looks like Jones had a good day, and so did the offense running the ball. I think it's safe to say that Neal had something to do with that. Let's not forget that he hasn't played RT since 2020, so it should be expected that he may struggle on occasion, even against a slug like Ximines.
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A second straight strong day from #Giants offense. WR Kenny Golladay had his best day of summer. Beat Adoree Jackson on a deep ball in 1-on-1 drills. Caught three passes in live periods. Probably not a coincidence that it came after Golladay had a semi-maintenance day Monday.
attended an NFL summer training camp, and then fell asleep for 3 decades, and then suddenly woke up in a current-day camp, he'd swear the league had converted to flag football.
True. Parcells and company ran some brutal practices.
I think it was the "America's Game" episode on the undefeated Miami Dolphins where someone said Don Shula wouldn't even let them get a drink during practice.
Schoen and his team should be researching other rosters and pray for an impending cut around Labor Day that we can take advantage of. Maybe the Green Bay team...
RE: Only August 3rd, but feels like the mess we have at Center
Schoen and his team should be researching other rosters and pray for an impending cut around Labor Day that we can take advantage of. Maybe the Green Bay team...
at the level he was playing at prior to his injury. But, he is probably the best center on this team and we should all hope he is able to make it back.
RE: Only August 3rd, but feels like the mess we have at Center
Schoen and his team should be researching other rosters and pray for an impending cut around Labor Day that we can take advantage of. Maybe the Green Bay team...
Big Blue Banter guys made a similar comment, cycling different guys is not a sign of confidence
RE: Only August 3rd, but feels like the mess we have at Center
Schoen and his team should be researching other rosters and pray for an impending cut around Labor Day that we can take advantage of. Maybe the Green Bay team...
Based on what?
Dexter Lawrence has been having his best camp. Feliciano returns today and handles him. Giants were running the ball well today too.
Schoen and his team should be researching other rosters and pray for an impending cut around Labor Day that we can take advantage of. Maybe the Green Bay team...
Based on what?
Dexter Lawrence has been having his best camp. Feliciano returns today and handles him. Giants were running the ball well today too.
Besides "overreaction" if someone said earlier this year Dex and Williams will have their way with the cast of bums in the interior oline, I don't think many would disagree. And yeah they are bums, I would be happy if we get lucky with one of them being a decent career starter.
Maybe I have become a bit clairvoyant regarding OL issues after seeing this same type of routine play out each summer camp and preseason.
Or maybe everything will just turn out fine like you all hope...
So you're basing your analysis on what happened in the past with players who are no longer here.
Got it.
You're another poster with terrible takes.
You don't got anything.
It's based on the weak or unproven personnel we had at the position going into camp, and how they are obviously scrambling to find a credible solution to start and/or be a serviceable backup.
You don't have to agree and hope that it goes along just fine but I would suggest the same on your take...
Feliciano is the first-team center. He was pegged for that from the start. There has been nothing to indicate so far he can't handle the position. That's a fact. Could it change? Sure, but he's lived up to his billing thus far.
The back-up center position is more up for grabs. Douglas doesn't look good, but Lemieux and Brederson have done some good things.
...are doing everything you can to find a problem.
A problem that you "feel" the team has.
Why?
You aren't at practice and I'd bet, if you were, you still wouldn't be able to accurately spot issues. Even if you happen to be a coach, you wouldn't know what the players are doing without knowing what the installs are or how the coaches are treating the Indy, skelly and full team periods.
Practice seems to be going well. Players who have been much maligned seem to be putting in good work.
They're going with Feliciano at OC this year. He seems to be doing okay (when he's practiced). If he can't go, it looks like they'll move Lemieux over. Outside of that, it's Bredeson or Douglas, assuming one of them sticks. That's it. They're not going to sign someone off the wire and expect them to learn a new offense with limited practice time so they can get plugged in right away. It's not happening. They're going to go to war with the army they have, not the one you, me or anyone else wishes they had.
To many posters here think the OL should be firing on all cylinders with 1) new coaches 2) new offensive playbook and 3) almost all new players across the line.
They will put players in different positions to find out what they have and who is flexible and good enough to play multiple positions if need be.
My mindset this season is a prolonged training camp to see who may be counted on going forward in the rebuild and who will need to be replaced over the next two seasons ('23 & '24).
Feliciano is the first-team center. He was pegged for that from the start. There has been nothing to indicate so far he can't handle the position. That's a fact. Could it change? Sure, but he's lived up to his billing thus far.
The back-up center position is more up for grabs. Douglas doesn't look good, but Lemieux and Brederson have done some good things.
So yeah, I am basing it on what has transpired.
What has transpired is Schoen/Daboll are praying that Feliciano, who while has some skills on the interior but only 2 actual starts at Center, can hold down the position for the entire season.
If not or he gets injured, they are scrambling to figure out who can even be serviceable in that spot by sticking in an average Guard like Lemieux or a rookie Guard like Ezeudu as the backup. Both of whom also haven't played Center.
Bredeson, Douglas really need to be roster cuts and not relied upon as an actual option here.
I hope it works out too but it's a potential problem. And losing some of the names above and adding another experienced Center might be a prudent course of action come September cuts.
And there is nothing wrong with discussing it without calling me out for it. So settle down.
impressive in the few clips they've posted. He's built like a T, good feet and shows good overall technique and competitiveness.
After seeing his build/move, I'm not surprised at all they are playing him at T. May be his best position.
(And if Neal continues to struggle, maybe they move him to G and Ezeudu to RT?)
We'll see. It's early but Neal is clearly struggling in pass pro, which is to be expected even for a top 10 pick.
WTF would you move Neal, who was a top 10 pick to guard?
Do you remember how Thomas struggled as a rookie?
So you want to waste a year with him at guard on a team that isn't going to the playoffs in 2022?
It's called overreaction.
Throw in bum Ximines looking like LT...
No, it's absolutely an overreaction. As I wrote earlier:
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Looks like Jones had a good day, and so did the offense running the ball. I think it's safe to say that Neal had something to do with that. Let's not forget that he hasn't played RT since 2020, so it should be expected that he may struggle on occasion, even against a slug like Ximines.
Oh, and as for the IOL's you so cheerfully label "bums," it looks like Lemieux has made some great strides, and the early returns on Ezeudu and McKethan are in, and they both show promise. They're the future, along with Thomas and Neal. In your zeal to sound "edgy," you obviously fail to see that. Stop with your "too cool for the room" act and open your eyes.
RE: Only August 3rd, but feels like the mess we have at Center
Schoen and his team should be researching other rosters and pray for an impending cut around Labor Day that we can take advantage of. Maybe the Green Bay team...
Hey Googs….any thoughts about Jones these past two days, especially today?
RE: RE: Williams and Dex blowing up July and August
we don't exactly have Nelson and Pouncey in our interior oline. A bit of an echo chamber to think otherwise? Anyhoo I'm primarly interested this time of year day to day to find out how the Nigerian kid is looking as someone asked or Platzgummer.
They're going with Feliciano at OC this year. He seems to be doing okay (when he's practiced). If he can't go, it looks like they'll move Lemieux over. Outside of that, it's Bredeson or Douglas, assuming one of them sticks. That's it. They're not going to sign someone off the wire and expect them to learn a new offense with limited practice time so they can get plugged in right away. It's not happening. They're going to go to war with the army they have, not the one you, me or anyone else wishes they had.
I agree, that is their strategy. What played out last year was a panic when Lemieux got hurt and the coaches determined they needed to cut the entire OL bench because they were also disasters. And then the disasterous Front Office went looking for whomever they could sign right before the season started. And they added some new disasters themselves which was no surprise.
we don't exactly have Nelson and Pouncey in our interior oline. A bit of an echo chamber to think otherwise? Anyhoo I'm primarly interested this time of year day to day to find out how the Nigerian kid is looking as someone asked or Platzgummer.
So they don't have Pro Bowlers inside so it's a weakness?
Do you people even listen to yourselves?
Glowinksi is a solid NFL starter. Ezeudu is a rookie so there will be growing pains, but both him and McKethan have shown enough for the Giants practice them not only with the 2nd team already (pushing down the cheap vets who were signed) but they are also getting serious reps at both tackle spots. Johnson also really like Lemieux.
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Word is that Kayvon Thibodeaux sang "Juicy" by Notorious B.I.G. in front of #Giants defense. Singing is typical rookie initiation here (musically gifted Andrew Thomas in 2020 crushed it).
How'd Thibs do?
“He was the first one,” Darnay Holmes said. “He set the bar pretty high."
They are not "praying" on Feliciano. They targeted in free agency. Both the HC and OL coach worked with him in Buffalo.
You really are bad at this.
But everyone could see that with your weird devotion to Chris Mara.
Feliciano signed a 1 year $3M deal to play a position he barely has. He was targeted because they are on fumes with the cap and desparate because of the Gates injury.
But we can move on since you're not listening anyway.
And I am not weird with Chris Mara...it's you and the rest of the conspiracy theory gang that lost your minds this offseason. I am just being sarcastic as to how silly it sounds when you bring him up...
In case you missed it, I asked you to share your thoughts on Daniel Jones’ progress these last two days?
You’re a fellow Giants fan who is not afraid to share his mind….so I would like to hear your perspective on Jones here to see how close they are to mine.
They're going with Feliciano at OC this year. He seems to be doing okay (when he's practiced). If he can't go, it looks like they'll move Lemieux over. Outside of that, it's Bredeson or Douglas, assuming one of them sticks. That's it. They're not going to sign someone off the wire and expect them to learn a new offense with limited practice time so they can get plugged in right away. It's not happening. They're going to go to war with the army they have, not the one you, me or anyone else wishes they had.
I agree, that is their strategy. What played out last year was a panic when Lemieux got hurt and the coaches determined they needed to cut the entire OL bench because they were also disasters. And then the disasterous Front Office went looking for whomever they could sign right before the season started. And they added some new disasters themselves which was no surprise.
it was kind of a disaster...
Last year was last year. It has nothing to do with this year, except for the new regime having to dig itself out of the many, massive holes left by the old regime. It seems to me they've done the best they could with what they had to work with. What more do you want? I know...a tried-and-true Center. Well, so did I, but we didn't get one. We'll just have to live with that for the time being.
don the Nike jumpsuits and sneakers and drink the Kool-aid. Bunch of 3rd day interior oline picks and unheralded FA salary cap strapped signings can't convince me otherwise.
We used to be able to find important oline pieces like this on our way to 2 super bowls (hell 4) but not something we have done in a long time.
They're going with Feliciano at OC this year. He seems to be doing okay (when he's practiced). If he can't go, it looks like they'll move Lemieux over. Outside of that, it's Bredeson or Douglas, assuming one of them sticks. That's it. They're not going to sign someone off the wire and expect them to learn a new offense with limited practice time so they can get plugged in right away. It's not happening. They're going to go to war with the army they have, not the one you, me or anyone else wishes they had.
I agree, that is their strategy. What played out last year was a panic when Lemieux got hurt and the coaches determined they needed to cut the entire OL bench because they were also disasters. And then the disasterous Front Office went looking for whomever they could sign right before the season started. And they added some new disasters themselves which was no surprise.
it was kind of a disaster...
Last year was last year. It has nothing to do with this year, except for the new regime having to dig itself out of the many, massive holes left by the old regime. It seems to me they've done the best they could with what they had to work with. What more do you want? I know...a tried-and-true Center. Well, so did I, but we didn't get one. We'll just have to live with that for the time being.
It's just a post discussing that weakness. We'll live with all their decisions, whether we agree with them or not. But still fine to post about it...
Maybe I have become a bit clairvoyant regarding OL issues after seeing this same type of routine play out each summer camp and preseason.
Or maybe everything will just turn out fine like you all hope...
So you're basing your analysis on what happened in the past with players who are no longer here.
Got it.
You're another poster with terrible takes.
Ignore him. He’s CLEARLY spent too many hours watching ESPN and thinks it makes him something to copy the Mad Dog and Stephen A with ridiculous takes and constant arguing.
People who live in a fantasy world should be left there and ignored by all other posters.
In case you missed it, I asked you to share your thoughts on Daniel Jones’ progress these last two days?
You’re a fellow Giants fan who is not afraid to share his mind….so I would like to hear your perspective on Jones here to see how close they are to mine.
I was lukewarm with Jones in 2020 as he showed enough flaws and not enough uplift for the Offense needed from that QB position for my liking.
But I still gave Jones more benefit of the doubt than I was comfortable with going in 2021. Mostly because there was so many other issues, I just simply felt let him rise up or let him hang himself. What I saw was a guy who tries really, really hard and just hung himself with his suspect plat.
I think Schoen and Daboll see it too which is why they didn't give him the 5th year option. They also didn't see what they wanted in the Draft and didn't want to go to war internally on the DJ decision, so they punted the situation and will let Jones hang himself in 2022 and then move on...
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Robinson couldn’t contain his smile when asked about the package with him, Toney and Saquon in the backfield together. Clearly exciting potential with that grouping
After seeing his build/move, I'm not surprised at all they are playing him at T. May be his best position.
(And if Neal continues to struggle, maybe they move him to G and Ezeudu to RT?)
We'll see. It's early but Neal is clearly struggling in pass pro, which is to be expected even for a top 10 pick.
attended an NFL summer training camp, and then fell asleep for 3 decades, and then suddenly woke up in a current-day camp, he'd swear the league had converted to flag football.
True. Parcells and company ran some brutal practices.
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Robinson couldn’t contain his smile when asked about the package with him, Toney and Saquon in the backfield together. Clearly exciting potential with that grouping
I can't contain my smile thinking about Robinson not being able to contain his smile! The package with him, Toney and Saquon in the backfield together could be very exciting!
Looks like Jones had a good day, and so did the offense running the ball. I think it's safe to say that Neal had something to do with that. Let's not forget that he hasn't played RT since 2020, so it should be expected that he may struggle on occasion, even against a slug like Ximines.
After seeing his build/move, I'm not surprised at all they are playing him at T. May be his best position.
(And if Neal continues to struggle, maybe they move him to G and Ezeudu to RT?)
We'll see. It's early but Neal is clearly struggling in pass pro, which is to be expected even for a top 10 pick.
WTF would you move Neal, who was a top 10 pick to guard?
Do you remember how Thomas struggled as a rookie?
So you want to waste a year with him at guard on a team that isn't going to the playoffs in 2022?
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A second straight strong day from #Giants offense. WR Kenny Golladay had his best day of summer. Beat Adoree Jackson on a deep ball in 1-on-1 drills. Caught three passes in live periods. Probably not a coincidence that it came after Golladay had a semi-maintenance day Monday.
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attended an NFL summer training camp, and then fell asleep for 3 decades, and then suddenly woke up in a current-day camp, he'd swear the league had converted to flag football.
True. Parcells and company ran some brutal practices.
I think it was the "America's Game" episode on the undefeated Miami Dolphins where someone said Don Shula wouldn't even let them get a drink during practice.
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impressive in the few clips they've posted. He's built like a T, good feet and shows good overall technique and competitiveness.
After seeing his build/move, I'm not surprised at all they are playing him at T. May be his best position.
(And if Neal continues to struggle, maybe they move him to G and Ezeudu to RT?)
We'll see. It's early but Neal is clearly struggling in pass pro, which is to be expected even for a top 10 pick.
WTF would you move Neal, who was a top 10 pick to guard?
Do you remember how Thomas struggled as a rookie?
So you want to waste a year with him at guard on a team that isn't going to the playoffs in 2022?
It's called overreaction.
You might have some of the worst takes on the site.
Lmao he just says things to confuse or get a rise out of people.
Schoen and his team should be researching other rosters and pray for an impending cut around Labor Day that we can take advantage of. Maybe the Green Bay team...
Schoen and his team should be researching other rosters and pray for an impending cut around Labor Day that we can take advantage of. Maybe the Green Bay team...
You're like a dog with a bone, aren't you, lol.
Schoen and his team should be researching other rosters and pray for an impending cut around Labor Day that we can take advantage of. Maybe the Green Bay team...
Big Blue Banter guys made a similar comment, cycling different guys is not a sign of confidence
Schoen and his team should be researching other rosters and pray for an impending cut around Labor Day that we can take advantage of. Maybe the Green Bay team...
Based on what?
Dexter Lawrence has been having his best camp. Feliciano returns today and handles him. Giants were running the ball well today too.
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impressive in the few clips they've posted. He's built like a T, good feet and shows good overall technique and competitiveness.
After seeing his build/move, I'm not surprised at all they are playing him at T. May be his best position.
(And if Neal continues to struggle, maybe they move him to G and Ezeudu to RT?)
We'll see. It's early but Neal is clearly struggling in pass pro, which is to be expected even for a top 10 pick.
WTF would you move Neal, who was a top 10 pick to guard?
Do you remember how Thomas struggled as a rookie?
So you want to waste a year with him at guard on a team that isn't going to the playoffs in 2022?
It's called overreaction.
Throw in bum Ximines looking like LT...
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will be a sore spot this season.
Schoen and his team should be researching other rosters and pray for an impending cut around Labor Day that we can take advantage of. Maybe the Green Bay team...
Based on what?
Dexter Lawrence has been having his best camp. Feliciano returns today and handles him. Giants were running the ball well today too.
Besides "overreaction" if someone said earlier this year Dex and Williams will have their way with the cast of bums in the interior oline, I don't think many would disagree. And yeah they are bums, I would be happy if we get lucky with one of them being a decent career starter.
Or maybe everything will just turn out fine like you all hope...
Or maybe everything will just turn out fine like you all hope...
So you're basing your analysis on what happened in the past with players who are no longer here.
Got it.
You're another poster with terrible takes.
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Going to thread nine of these again:
1. Andrew Thomas has been so good in these. Another W against Kayvon Thibodeaux:
2. Thomas stuffing Oshane Ximines:
3. Dexter Lawrence faced much more resistance with Jon Feliciano back practicing:
4. Another Feliciano vs. Lawrence matchup:
5. Quincy Roche vs. Evan Neal. After jumping offside, whoooosh:
6. Evan Neal flagged for holding Thibodeaux:
7. Leonard Williams has been a problem all camp:
8. Shane Lemieux putting up a fight vs. Williams:
9. ILB Darrian Beavers lining up on the edge and beating Josh Ezeudu inside:
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Maybe I have become a bit clairvoyant regarding OL issues after seeing this same type of routine play out each summer camp and preseason.
Or maybe everything will just turn out fine like you all hope...
So you're basing your analysis on what happened in the past with players who are no longer here.
Got it.
You're another poster with terrible takes.
You don't got anything.
It's based on the weak or unproven personnel we had at the position going into camp, and how they are obviously scrambling to find a credible solution to start and/or be a serviceable backup.
You don't have to agree and hope that it goes along just fine but I would suggest the same on your take...
Feliciano is the first-team center. He was pegged for that from the start. There has been nothing to indicate so far he can't handle the position. That's a fact. Could it change? Sure, but he's lived up to his billing thus far.
The back-up center position is more up for grabs. Douglas doesn't look good, but Lemieux and Brederson have done some good things.
So yeah, I am basing it on what has transpired.
A problem that you "feel" the team has.
Why?
You aren't at practice and I'd bet, if you were, you still wouldn't be able to accurately spot issues. Even if you happen to be a coach, you wouldn't know what the players are doing without knowing what the installs are or how the coaches are treating the Indy, skelly and full team periods.
Practice seems to be going well. Players who have been much maligned seem to be putting in good work.
Realists enjoy the process.
They will put players in different positions to find out what they have and who is flexible and good enough to play multiple positions if need be.
My mindset this season is a prolonged training camp to see who may be counted on going forward in the rebuild and who will need to be replaced over the next two seasons ('23 & '24).
Feliciano is the first-team center. He was pegged for that from the start. There has been nothing to indicate so far he can't handle the position. That's a fact. Could it change? Sure, but he's lived up to his billing thus far.
The back-up center position is more up for grabs. Douglas doesn't look good, but Lemieux and Brederson have done some good things.
So yeah, I am basing it on what has transpired.
What has transpired is Schoen/Daboll are praying that Feliciano, who while has some skills on the interior but only 2 actual starts at Center, can hold down the position for the entire season.
If not or he gets injured, they are scrambling to figure out who can even be serviceable in that spot by sticking in an average Guard like Lemieux or a rookie Guard like Ezeudu as the backup. Both of whom also haven't played Center.
Bredeson, Douglas really need to be roster cuts and not relied upon as an actual option here.
I hope it works out too but it's a potential problem. And losing some of the names above and adding another experienced Center might be a prudent course of action come September cuts.
And there is nothing wrong with discussing it without calling me out for it. So settle down.
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impressive in the few clips they've posted. He's built like a T, good feet and shows good overall technique and competitiveness.
After seeing his build/move, I'm not surprised at all they are playing him at T. May be his best position.
(And if Neal continues to struggle, maybe they move him to G and Ezeudu to RT?)
We'll see. It's early but Neal is clearly struggling in pass pro, which is to be expected even for a top 10 pick.
WTF would you move Neal, who was a top 10 pick to guard?
Do you remember how Thomas struggled as a rookie?
So you want to waste a year with him at guard on a team that isn't going to the playoffs in 2022?
It's called overreaction.
Throw in bum Ximines looking like LT...
No, it's absolutely an overreaction. As I wrote earlier:
Oh, and as for the IOL's you so cheerfully label "bums," it looks like Lemieux has made some great strides, and the early returns on Ezeudu and McKethan are in, and they both show promise. They're the future, along with Thomas and Neal. In your zeal to sound "edgy," you obviously fail to see that. Stop with your "too cool for the room" act and open your eyes.
Schoen and his team should be researching other rosters and pray for an impending cut around Labor Day that we can take advantage of. Maybe the Green Bay team...
Hey Googs….any thoughts about Jones these past two days, especially today?
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likely a function of how shitty our interior oline is which on paper is the case.
Not as shitty as some of our posters who post nonsense without seeing action in preseason practice.
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likely a function of how shitty our interior oline is which on paper is the case.
Not as shitty as some of our posters who post nonsense without seeing action in preseason practice.
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You really are bad at this.
But everyone could see that with your weird devotion to Chris Mara.
I agree, that is their strategy. What played out last year was a panic when Lemieux got hurt and the coaches determined they needed to cut the entire OL bench because they were also disasters. And then the disasterous Front Office went looking for whomever they could sign right before the season started. And they added some new disasters themselves which was no surprise.
it was kind of a disaster...
So they don't have Pro Bowlers inside so it's a weakness?
Do you people even listen to yourselves?
Glowinksi is a solid NFL starter. Ezeudu is a rookie so there will be growing pains, but both him and McKethan have shown enough for the Giants practice them not only with the 2nd team already (pushing down the cheap vets who were signed) but they are also getting serious reps at both tackle spots. Johnson also really like Lemieux.
But keep posting like a turd.
Another fun day in Giantsland.
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Word is that Kayvon Thibodeaux sang "Juicy" by Notorious B.I.G. in front of #Giants defense. Singing is typical rookie initiation here (musically gifted Andrew Thomas in 2020 crushed it).
How'd Thibs do?
“He was the first one,” Darnay Holmes said. “He set the bar pretty high."
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Maybe I have become a bit clairvoyant regarding OL issues after seeing this same type of routine play out each summer camp and preseason.
Or maybe everything will just turn out fine like you all hope...
So you're basing your analysis on what happened in the past with players who are no longer here.
Got it.
You're another poster with terrible takes.
Eric, you’re on fire today! A sincere thank you from the less vocal majority.
You really are bad at this.
But everyone could see that with your weird devotion to Chris Mara.
Feliciano signed a 1 year $3M deal to play a position he barely has. He was targeted because they are on fumes with the cap and desparate because of the Gates injury.
But we can move on since you're not listening anyway.
And I am not weird with Chris Mara...it's you and the rest of the conspiracy theory gang that lost your minds this offseason. I am just being sarcastic as to how silly it sounds when you bring him up...
You’re a fellow Giants fan who is not afraid to share his mind….so I would like to hear your perspective on Jones here to see how close they are to mine.
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They're going with Feliciano at OC this year. He seems to be doing okay (when he's practiced). If he can't go, it looks like they'll move Lemieux over. Outside of that, it's Bredeson or Douglas, assuming one of them sticks. That's it. They're not going to sign someone off the wire and expect them to learn a new offense with limited practice time so they can get plugged in right away. It's not happening. They're going to go to war with the army they have, not the one you, me or anyone else wishes they had.
I agree, that is their strategy. What played out last year was a panic when Lemieux got hurt and the coaches determined they needed to cut the entire OL bench because they were also disasters. And then the disasterous Front Office went looking for whomever they could sign right before the season started. And they added some new disasters themselves which was no surprise.
it was kind of a disaster...
Last year was last year. It has nothing to do with this year, except for the new regime having to dig itself out of the many, massive holes left by the old regime. It seems to me they've done the best they could with what they had to work with. What more do you want? I know...a tried-and-true Center. Well, so did I, but we didn't get one. We'll just have to live with that for the time being.
We used to be able to find important oline pieces like this on our way to 2 super bowls (hell 4) but not something we have done in a long time.
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In comment 15770972 Klaatu said:
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They're going with Feliciano at OC this year. He seems to be doing okay (when he's practiced). If he can't go, it looks like they'll move Lemieux over. Outside of that, it's Bredeson or Douglas, assuming one of them sticks. That's it. They're not going to sign someone off the wire and expect them to learn a new offense with limited practice time so they can get plugged in right away. It's not happening. They're going to go to war with the army they have, not the one you, me or anyone else wishes they had.
I agree, that is their strategy. What played out last year was a panic when Lemieux got hurt and the coaches determined they needed to cut the entire OL bench because they were also disasters. And then the disasterous Front Office went looking for whomever they could sign right before the season started. And they added some new disasters themselves which was no surprise.
it was kind of a disaster...
Last year was last year. It has nothing to do with this year, except for the new regime having to dig itself out of the many, massive holes left by the old regime. It seems to me they've done the best they could with what they had to work with. What more do you want? I know...a tried-and-true Center. Well, so did I, but we didn't get one. We'll just have to live with that for the time being.
It's just a post discussing that weakness. We'll live with all their decisions, whether we agree with them or not. But still fine to post about it...
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Maybe I have become a bit clairvoyant regarding OL issues after seeing this same type of routine play out each summer camp and preseason.
Or maybe everything will just turn out fine like you all hope...
So you're basing your analysis on what happened in the past with players who are no longer here.
Got it.
You're another poster with terrible takes.
Ignore him. He’s CLEARLY spent too many hours watching ESPN and thinks it makes him something to copy the Mad Dog and Stephen A with ridiculous takes and constant arguing.
People who live in a fantasy world should be left there and ignored by all other posters.
I don't think he was... I thought he was a fixture at left guard for Oregon, but I may be mistaken.
Regardless, some of his OC play has been encouraging for someone who hasn't played the position ever or in a while.
Feliciano is going to be the starting center. If Gates can make it back, then we'll be in good shape. But that's a big if.
But we're basically arguing about he back-up center on a team that had a center last year who isn't even on a 90-man roster right now. (Billy Price).
You’re a fellow Giants fan who is not afraid to share his mind….so I would like to hear your perspective on Jones here to see how close they are to mine.
I was lukewarm with Jones in 2020 as he showed enough flaws and not enough uplift for the Offense needed from that QB position for my liking.
But I still gave Jones more benefit of the doubt than I was comfortable with going in 2021. Mostly because there was so many other issues, I just simply felt let him rise up or let him hang himself. What I saw was a guy who tries really, really hard and just hung himself with his suspect plat.
I think Schoen and Daboll see it too which is why they didn't give him the 5th year option. They also didn't see what they wanted in the Draft and didn't want to go to war internally on the DJ decision, so they punted the situation and will let Jones hang himself in 2022 and then move on...