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NFT: Mariners @ Yankees 8/3 1:05 PM No Judge

Jints in Carolina : 8/3/2022 10:12 am
NYY
Anthony Rizzo (L) 1B
DJ LeMahieu (R) 3B
Matt Carpenter (L) RF
Josh Donaldson (R) DH
Andrew Benintendi (L) LF
Gleyber Torres (R) 2B
Aaron Hicks (S) CF
Isiah Kiner-Falefa (R) SS
Kyle Higashioka (R) C

SEA
Adam Frazier (L) 2B
Jesse Winker (L) LF
Eugenio Suarez (R) 3B
Carlos Santana (S) 1B
J.P. Crawford (L) SS
Kyle Lewis (R) DH
Jarred Kelenic (L) CF
Luis Torrens (R) C
Sam Haggerty (S) RF

Should be a great pitching matchup:

Castillo vs. Cole
Donaldson cleanup...........  
Jints in Carolina : 8/3/2022 10:13 am : link
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Oh shit!  
Greg from LI : 8/3/2022 10:14 am : link
The immortal SAM HAGGERTY is starting. Doomed!

I fucking despise getting beaten by trash players
Certainly not the Yankees  
terz22 : 8/3/2022 10:17 am : link
Best lineup...
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arcarsenal : 8/3/2022 10:32 am : link
Sucks to have to sit the red hot Trevi but it's a day game after a night cap and it's hot out there, so I get it... standard practice.

Maybe if I keep talking shit about Donaldson's place in the order, he'll keep hitting.
So who becomes  
Br00klyn : 8/3/2022 10:49 am : link
the next Yankee fan target of hate, Benintendi or Donaldson?
RE: So who becomes  
arcarsenal : 8/3/2022 10:52 am : link
In comment 15770726 Br00klyn said:
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the next Yankee fan target of hate, Benintendi or Donaldson?


Hicks is working his way back into the mix. His wRC+ has slipped back below league average (99), his numbers with RISP are ghastly.

Hicks' last 52 plate appearances, he's batting .200 with a .508 OPS.
RE: RE: So who becomes  
Br00klyn : 8/3/2022 10:55 am : link
In comment 15770729 arcarsenal said:
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the next Yankee fan target of hate, Benintendi or Donaldson?



Hicks is working his way back into the mix. His wRC+ has slipped back below league average (99), his numbers with RISP are ghastly.

Hicks' last 52 plate appearances, he's batting .200 with a .508 OPS.


Yes but I have a feeling with the addition of Bader, we are going to be seeing much less of Hicks going forward
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arcarsenal : 8/3/2022 10:57 am : link
Eventually and ideally, yes... but Bader is still a ways away.

My guess is we're not going to see Bader until mid-late September. So, we have to deal with Hicks a while longer.

That said, Stanton should be close... which allows us to go with Benny/Judge/Stanton in the OF a few times a week and keep Hicks on the bench.

Originally, I was looking at Stanton's return as an opportunity to bench Donaldson more. Might need to do it with Hicks instead.
I think Donaldson will be the next on the shit list  
Jints in Carolina : 8/3/2022 11:00 am : link
Beni will be given time since he just got traded.
I'm  
Semipro Lineman : 8/3/2022 11:03 am : link
just waiting for the day when the Yankees have no more scapegoats for us to post about and we will be forced to turn our hatred on other posters which will initiate a purge like spree of uncontrolled violence on this website.

I'm calling dibs on being shotgut on Greg From LI's posse right now before anyone else can get that spot
First Montas start sounds like it'll be Sunday  
Strahan91 : 8/3/2022 11:12 am : link
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Beni AB's have been awful  
averagejoe : 8/3/2022 11:13 am : link
sure hope he's not one of the cant-play-in-NY guys. He needs a good game to get him going .
RE: So who becomes  
The_Boss : 8/3/2022 11:21 am : link
In comment 15770726 Br00klyn said:
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the next Yankee fan target of hate, Benintendi or Donaldson?


Hicks stinks again
Hicks  
terz22 : 8/3/2022 11:28 am : link
1 hit last 23 abs and only 2 walks. Man this guy just disappears at times. When you think he's starting to figure things out. Nope.
RE: Beni AB's have been awful  
Mook80 : 8/3/2022 11:30 am : link
In comment 15770752 averagejoe said:
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sure hope he's not one of the cant-play-in-NY guys. He needs a good game to get him going .


He played in Boston and played just fine there, and the pressure in Boston is just as much as it is in NY. He'll be fine
RE: I'm  
Mike from SI : 8/3/2022 11:32 am : link
In comment 15770745 Semipro Lineman said:
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just waiting for the day when the Yankees have no more scapegoats for us to post about and we will be forced to turn our hatred on other posters which will initiate a purge like spree of uncontrolled violence on this website.

I'm calling dibs on being shotgut on Greg From LI's posse right now before anyone else can get that spot


Even in the late 90s, people were calling into WFAN bitching about Yankees deficiencies (back then it was LF, iirc). The purge is a long ways away. But I doubt you guys can find me in BK anyway :)
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Strahan91 : 8/3/2022 11:34 am : link

Kristie Ackert
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rival exec on #Yankees getting Bader: "when the boot comes off he will be the best defensive centerfielder you've seen in pinstripes."
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Victor in CT : 8/3/2022 11:37 am : link
In comment 15770733 Br00klyn said:
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the next Yankee fan target of hate, Benintendi or Donaldson?



Hicks is working his way back into the mix. His wRC+ has slipped back below league average (99), his numbers with RISP are ghastly.

Hicks' last 52 plate appearances, he's batting .200 with a .508 OPS.



Yes but I have a feeling with the addition of Bader, we are going to be seeing much less of Hicks going forward


in 2023? They say SEP, but we've all seen how plantar fasciatis can take much longer.
Day game today  
Costy16 : 8/3/2022 12:10 pm : link
Off day tomorrow is probably why Judge is not in the lineup.
I saw a Marlins beat guy said that the Yankees were  
Strahan91 : 8/3/2022 12:14 pm : link
very very close to a deal for Lopez. He said at one point they discussed Gleyber in the deal and that Volpe wasn't in the deal but he wasn't sure exactly what the final offer was they were close on. Man that would've been incredible
RE: I saw a Marlins beat guy said that the Yankees were  
Jints in Carolina : 8/3/2022 12:21 pm : link
In comment 15770838 Strahan91 said:
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very very close to a deal for Lopez. He said at one point they discussed Gleyber in the deal and that Volpe wasn't in the deal but he wasn't sure exactly what the final offer was they were close on. Man that would've been incredible


I would have loved Lopez in the rotation.
Extremely early loser shit by Gerrit Cole  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/3/2022 1:15 pm : link
I had Suarez in fantasy  
Mike from SI : 8/3/2022 1:15 pm : link
and dropped him this week. He has been awful this season...until the last 2 games against the Yankees, of course.

Maybe Cole should consider not taking 45-60 seconds between pitches.
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arcarsenal : 8/3/2022 1:15 pm : link
Cole shitting the bed nice and early today. Hasn't recorded an out... another HR allowed and in a 3 run hole.

He's giving up WAY too many long balls.
Are u fucking kidding me Cole?  
Jints in Carolina : 8/3/2022 1:16 pm : link
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Cole getting lit up.  
bceagle05 : 8/3/2022 1:17 pm : link
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If Cole pitches like this  
Stu11 : 8/3/2022 1:17 pm : link
losing Monty will be the least of our worries. This is a fucking joke.
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arcarsenal : 8/3/2022 1:17 pm : link
Another HR allowed. What the fuck is wrong with this guy.
Someone get this man  
Mike from SI : 8/3/2022 1:17 pm : link
some Spider Tac.
What a joke  
Jints in Carolina : 8/3/2022 1:17 pm : link
Bum
Crowd better  
Mike from SI : 8/3/2022 1:18 pm : link
boo the shit out of him.
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BleedBlue : 8/3/2022 1:20 pm : link
this guylike fucking sucks at this point.

My god do we need more starting pitching this offseason.

We pitch like this we wont even make it to ALCS
At least I won't feel guilty  
Mike from SI : 8/3/2022 1:24 pm : link
about running errands instead of watching this game.

What a complete fucking joke.
Hat trick!  
bceagle05 : 8/3/2022 1:24 pm : link
6-0 in this match-up of "aces."
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arcarsenal : 8/3/2022 1:24 pm : link
He absolutely sucks today. Good thing there's an off day tomorrow because the bullpen is going to need to go about 8 innings.

All the fans should get their money back for this garbage.
Embarrassing bullshit from Cole.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/3/2022 1:25 pm : link
More HRs allowed than outs recorded so far.
so this is fun.  
bigbluehoya : 8/3/2022 1:26 pm : link



jeebus.
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arcarsenal : 8/3/2022 1:26 pm : link
Not even going to bother, honestly. I've switched over to the fucking Twins/Tigers game because it's too early in the day to be this aggravated.
Are you kidding me with this shit?  
Jints in Carolina : 8/3/2022 1:27 pm : link
This is embarrassing
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Kyle in NY : 8/3/2022 1:27 pm : link
Just not getting the consistency we're paying for. Way too many home runs, and a lot of them to below average or flat out bad hitters. You live with Devers getting him, but Jeter Downs a few weeks ago, Kelenic and Santana just now, lots of examples. These are guys hitting well below .200. It's not acceptable right now
They keep trying to coddle this guy.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/3/2022 1:29 pm : link
Last year it was Gary’s fault. Now they’ve switched catchers and will probably switch back. Enough. The guy has Ace stuff without Ace balls.
For all those  
k2tampa : 8/3/2022 1:29 pm : link
who repeatedly bashed Montgomery, Cole has been far more inconsistent and disappointing this year. Even more so when you factor in the money.
Sure, we have enough pitching….  
Jim in Hoboken : 8/3/2022 1:30 pm : link
Maybe Bader could’ve run those lasers down.

I kid, I kid.

You don’t trade pitchers for a light-hitting defensive CF, period.

Look, I don’t know Bader froma hole in the wall. But, 1, is he coming back healthy this year, 2. Is Boone going to play him over Hicks, 3. our pitching staff is crumbling due to injuries and regression, why trade pitching for someone who may not play a lot or at all?
This guy is a joke  
Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) : 8/3/2022 1:31 pm : link
For every 1 game he shuts teams down, there are multiple stinkers in between. He’s also given up Multiple leads they gave him.

He’s not a #1
I'm also bracing for the inevitable injury  
Stu11 : 8/3/2022 1:32 pm : link
No one decent can get lit up like that without something being wrong.
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arcarsenal : 8/3/2022 1:32 pm : link
If Gerrit Cole doesn't pitch like an ace, it literally doesn't fucking matter where Jordan Montgomery is. We're not going anywhere.

Cole has to be better than this. Period.
how much we paying this guy again?  
Jints in Carolina : 8/3/2022 1:34 pm : link
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RE: They keep trying to coddle this guy.  
Mike from SI : 8/3/2022 1:35 pm : link
In comment 15770948 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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Last year it was Gary’s fault. Now they’ve switched catchers and will probably switch back. Enough. The guy has Ace stuff without Ace balls.


He needs to stop being a fucking baby/pu**y. The rumor is he likes to use the back-up catcher because he spends days before his start preparing and likes his catcher to help him (and the starting catcher is naturally focused on the pitcher that day). Enough with the baby shit. You use Trevino and you get him for one day.
RE: I'm also bracing for the inevitable injury  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/3/2022 1:35 pm : link
In comment 15770955 Stu11 said:
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No one decent can get lit up like that without something being wrong.


He’s just soft. He threw a 3-1 curveball to the second hitter with a man on first with no outs. Unless the number two hitter is Judge or Trout, throw the ball 100 MPH and stop nibbling with bullshit. Of course he walked the guy and gave up a HR a few pitches later.
It boils down to: Can’t trust Cole in a big spot  
The_Boss : 8/3/2022 1:40 pm : link
I know it’s the dog days of august and all, but come on. Is a true ace really going to spot 4 runs to this lineup?
Maybe  
Costy16 : 8/3/2022 1:40 pm : link
They should have traded Cole?
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Greg from LI : 8/3/2022 1:48 pm : link
In comment 15770956 arcarsenal said:
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If Gerrit Cole doesn't pitch like an ace, it literally doesn't fucking matter where Jordan Montgomery is. We're not going anywhere.

Cole has to be better than this. Period.


This is it, plain and simple. If Cole is going to pitch like Jaret Wright, they have no shot whatsoever.
Benintendi walks after 5 balls  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/3/2022 1:48 pm : link
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Victor in CT : 8/3/2022 1:51 pm : link
In comment 15770977 Greg from LI said:
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If Gerrit Cole doesn't pitch like an ace, it literally doesn't fucking matter where Jordan Montgomery is. We're not going anywhere.

Cole has to be better than this. Period.



This is it, plain and simple. If Cole is going to pitch like Jaret Wright, they have no shot whatsoever.


agree with you guys. it's ridiculous. He pitches scared, afraid to get beat with his best pitch. Sickening.
Matt Blake got a lot of (deserved) accolades early on  
Greg from LI : 8/3/2022 1:51 pm : link
But both the rotation and bullpen are both struggling quite a bit lately. If he's the guru he's made out to be, he had better come up with responses.
and I completely agree with Mike from SI and shockey  
Victor in CT : 8/3/2022 1:54 pm : link
spot on guys.
RE: I'm  
Percy : 8/3/2022 1:56 pm : link
In comment 15770745 Semipro Lineman said:
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just waiting for the day when the Yankees have no more scapegoats for us to post about and we will be forced to turn our hatred on other posters which will initiate a purge like spree of uncontrolled violence on this website.

I'm calling dibs on being shotgut on Greg From LI's posse right now before anyone else can get that spot


Semipro, I'm late to today's disaster -- had to finish unpleasant other before joining in -- but, starting from the top, as I do, and already knowing that Cole had treated us to a huge deficit top of the 2nd, your great crack brought a needed smile and chuckle.

Perhaps the game will provide more of both.
2021 level stupidity on the base paths the past 2 nights.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/3/2022 1:58 pm : link
That just cannot happen down 5 with Rizzo up.

Why does this shit keep happening with Rizzo up?!?!?!
Baserunning  
Percy : 8/3/2022 2:00 pm : link
From last two games merits attention. Has to improve. Costs needed runs.
Cole  
Professor Falken : 8/3/2022 2:05 pm : link
million dollar arm, 10 cent head.
Our starting pitching is a HUGE problem going forward.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/3/2022 2:08 pm : link
Holy shit. Fuck Cole.
Is Cole hurt?  
GFAN52 : 8/3/2022 2:28 pm : link
I won't be surprised if he's on the IR list tomorrow.
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arcarsenal : 8/3/2022 2:29 pm : link
One thing I've noticed about Cole is that he seems to get rattled quickly. Once something bad happens, it tends to snowball on him and it happens fast.

It's like he loses his focus, can't move on to the next hitter, and then the mistakes start coming in droves and he gets absolutely crushed.

Even in games where he starts off really well. He'll go 3-4 scoreless, look really good, and then suddenly a bloop falls for a hit or he doesn't get a strike call and a runner gets on and from there, he'll give up a HR, more hits, etc. and it turns into a mess of an inning.

It's like he just has these total meltdown innings where he can't limit the damage. Today, it happened right away in the 1st.
reminds me of AJ Burnett that way  
Greg from LI : 8/3/2022 2:34 pm : link
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Jints in Carolina : 8/3/2022 2:42 pm : link
In comment 15771044 arcarsenal said:
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One thing I've noticed about Cole is that he seems to get rattled quickly. Once something bad happens, it tends to snowball on him and it happens fast.

It's like he loses his focus, can't move on to the next hitter, and then the mistakes start coming in droves and he gets absolutely crushed.

Even in games where he starts off really well. He'll go 3-4 scoreless, look really good, and then suddenly a bloop falls for a hit or he doesn't get a strike call and a runner gets on and from there, he'll give up a HR, more hits, etc. and it turns into a mess of an inning.

It's like he just has these total meltdown innings where he can't limit the damage. Today, it happened right away in the 1st.


Things that shouldn't happen to a guy they are paying 35 million a year to.
RE: Is Cole hurt?  
Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) : 8/3/2022 2:45 pm : link
In comment 15771043 GFAN52 said:
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I won't be surprised if he's on the IR list tomorrow.



He’s not hurt , just getting beat like a drum with his secondary pitches!
RE: Is Cole hurt?  
Mike from SI : 8/3/2022 2:46 pm : link
In comment 15771043 GFAN52 said:
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I won't be surprised if he's on the IR list tomorrow.


They let him throw 93 pitches so he better not be hurt.
CB Bucknor is a dogshit umpire.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/3/2022 2:58 pm : link
How do they allow these guys to be consistently awful and keep their jobs?

It makes the sport a joke.
Cole With 5 Shutout Innings...  
Jim in Tampa : 8/3/2022 2:58 pm : link
out of 6 :(
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Victor in CT : 8/3/2022 3:01 pm : link
In comment 15771058 Jints in Carolina said:
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One thing I've noticed about Cole is that he seems to get rattled quickly. Once something bad happens, it tends to snowball on him and it happens fast.

It's like he loses his focus, can't move on to the next hitter, and then the mistakes start coming in droves and he gets absolutely crushed.

Even in games where he starts off really well. He'll go 3-4 scoreless, look really good, and then suddenly a bloop falls for a hit or he doesn't get a strike call and a runner gets on and from there, he'll give up a HR, more hits, etc. and it turns into a mess of an inning.

It's like he just has these total meltdown innings where he can't limit the damage. Today, it happened right away in the 1st.



Things that shouldn't happen to a guy they are paying 35 million a year to.


which is why he's not a true ace. he has the talent and stuff, doesn't have the makeup. Sevy has the makeup and the talent but can't stay on the field. Rest of the rotation is good but not great.
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Mike from SI : 8/3/2022 3:04 pm : link
In comment 15771090 Victor in CT said:
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One thing I've noticed about Cole is that he seems to get rattled quickly. Once something bad happens, it tends to snowball on him and it happens fast.

It's like he loses his focus, can't move on to the next hitter, and then the mistakes start coming in droves and he gets absolutely crushed.

Even in games where he starts off really well. He'll go 3-4 scoreless, look really good, and then suddenly a bloop falls for a hit or he doesn't get a strike call and a runner gets on and from there, he'll give up a HR, more hits, etc. and it turns into a mess of an inning.

It's like he just has these total meltdown innings where he can't limit the damage. Today, it happened right away in the 1st.



Things that shouldn't happen to a guy they are paying 35 million a year to.



which is why he's not a true ace. he has the talent and stuff, doesn't have the makeup. Sevy has the makeup and the talent but can't stay on the field. Rest of the rotation is good but not great.


Does Sevy have the makeup? Didn't he get annihilated in a playoff game a few years back? May be misremembering.
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Victor in CT : 8/3/2022 3:07 pm : link
In comment 15771092 Mike from SI said:
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One thing I've noticed about Cole is that he seems to get rattled quickly. Once something bad happens, it tends to snowball on him and it happens fast.

It's like he loses his focus, can't move on to the next hitter, and then the mistakes start coming in droves and he gets absolutely crushed.

Even in games where he starts off really well. He'll go 3-4 scoreless, look really good, and then suddenly a bloop falls for a hit or he doesn't get a strike call and a runner gets on and from there, he'll give up a HR, more hits, etc. and it turns into a mess of an inning.

It's like he just has these total meltdown innings where he can't limit the damage. Today, it happened right away in the 1st.



Things that shouldn't happen to a guy they are paying 35 million a year to.



which is why he's not a true ace. he has the talent and stuff, doesn't have the makeup. Sevy has the makeup and the talent but can't stay on the field. Rest of the rotation is good but not great.



Does Sevy have the makeup? Didn't he get annihilated in a playoff game a few years back? May be misremembering.


I think he does, dont recall him getting lit but my memory could be off. he's not afraid to throw his best stuff. Cole seems to be for some reason I cant figure out. Like in the Bosox game he moves Devers feet, then blows 3 heaters by him. then with a lead gives up a dinger to a shit hitter with a terrible curve or change up.
watching this game three things I think I think  
RasputinPrime : 8/3/2022 3:08 pm : link
First - we needed to get Castillo. The bar for Montas is set very high before he throws a pitch. He needs to be 1B.

Second - where is the offense going to come from? What was the cost for Happ? Was Iglesias not a possibility to replace IKF? I think Donaldson and IKF were right there was Gallo on the flush pile.

Third - Cashman better be right about Volpe and Peraza. This feels like two years of holding back from making moves that may help in the short term because of these two guys.
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Jim in Tampa : 8/3/2022 3:09 pm : link
In comment 15771092 Mike from SI said:
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One thing I've noticed about Cole is that he seems to get rattled quickly. Once something bad happens, it tends to snowball on him and it happens fast.

It's like he loses his focus, can't move on to the next hitter, and then the mistakes start coming in droves and he gets absolutely crushed.

Even in games where he starts off really well. He'll go 3-4 scoreless, look really good, and then suddenly a bloop falls for a hit or he doesn't get a strike call and a runner gets on and from there, he'll give up a HR, more hits, etc. and it turns into a mess of an inning.

It's like he just has these total meltdown innings where he can't limit the damage. Today, it happened right away in the 1st.



Things that shouldn't happen to a guy they are paying 35 million a year to.



which is why he's not a true ace. he has the talent and stuff, doesn't have the makeup. Sevy has the makeup and the talent but can't stay on the field. Rest of the rotation is good but not great.



Does Sevy have the makeup? Didn't he get annihilated in a playoff game a few years back? May be misremembering.


Yes. Sevy spit the bit in the one game playoff against the Twins. Yanks came back to win it, but I don't really trust Sevy in playoff games either.
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RasputinPrime : 8/3/2022 3:11 pm : link
In comment 15771092 Mike from SI said:
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One thing I've noticed about Cole is that he seems to get rattled quickly. Once something bad happens, it tends to snowball on him and it happens fast.

It's like he loses his focus, can't move on to the next hitter, and then the mistakes start coming in droves and he gets absolutely crushed.

Even in games where he starts off really well. He'll go 3-4 scoreless, look really good, and then suddenly a bloop falls for a hit or he doesn't get a strike call and a runner gets on and from there, he'll give up a HR, more hits, etc. and it turns into a mess of an inning.

It's like he just has these total meltdown innings where he can't limit the damage. Today, it happened right away in the 1st.



Things that shouldn't happen to a guy they are paying 35 million a year to.



which is why he's not a true ace. he has the talent and stuff, doesn't have the makeup. Sevy has the makeup and the talent but can't stay on the field. Rest of the rotation is good but not great.



Does Sevy have the makeup? Didn't he get annihilated in a playoff game a few years back? May be misremembering.


Sevy is the best starter we have produced since Pettitte. He just can't stay healthy.

Really choked we won't get to see Waldichuk or Medina. Lot of upside with those two. Montas better arrive ready to dog it.
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Kyle in NY : 8/3/2022 3:16 pm : link
Severino has had his share of blowup starts. 2017 wild card game against Minnesota and 2018 against Boston ALDS

Today Cole gave up a home run each on a fastball, slider, and changeup. It's not about pitch selection, it's execution and command. He's right in the heart of the plate today with his misses. I'd love to see him go out and dominate with that fastball but when he's not locating, that pitch gets hit out as much as any, despite how hard he throws. I would agree that he seems unable to right himself often in the middle of an inning and seems to lose focus.

To that point, seeing him then go out and throw 5 scoreless after he gets a chance to work things out in the dugout doesn't surprise me and also tells me he's close. His stuff remains electric, it's just some small tweaks to find consistency again.
Sevy's Career Post-Season Stats  
Jim in Tampa : 8/3/2022 3:19 pm : link
8 starts
1-3 (W-L)
5.23 (ERA)
1.59 (WHIP)
20 walks in 32.2 IP
Donaldson and IKF are replacement players  
arniefez : 8/3/2022 3:19 pm : link
and they are starters for a team that thinks it has a chance to win the World Series at the cost of 50 million for two years. That's GM malpractice. If the Yankees DFA'd Sanchez and kept Gio that 50 million might have come in handy.
Severino was 23 years old in his first playoff start  
Greg from LI : 8/3/2022 3:20 pm : link
in that Minnesota game. Come on.

Andy Pettitte didn't have a particularly good playoff start until his fifth playoff series, his 1-0 masterpiece in the 1996 WS. His first start in that series, he was bombed for 7 runs in 2.1 IP
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BleedBlue : 8/3/2022 3:21 pm : link
Castillo is a fucking stud...boy we could use him.


Also, yanks just dont hit good pitching. Will take a ton of breaks to win it all this year
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BleedBlue : 8/3/2022 3:23 pm : link
Okay higgy!

Got us back in game at least
RE: Severino was 23 years old in his first playoff start  
Mike from SI : 8/3/2022 3:27 pm : link
In comment 15771116 Greg from LI said:
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in that Minnesota game. Come on.

Andy Pettitte didn't have a particularly good playoff start until his fifth playoff series, his 1-0 masterpiece in the 1996 WS. His first start in that series, he was bombed for 7 runs in 2.1 IP


Ok, well I'm gonna want Sev to prove it after his blow-ups before I feel comfortable with him in the playoffs. I think that's a pretty defensible opinion.
Can’t wait  
NJLCO : 8/3/2022 3:57 pm : link
For Hicks to carry us.
that was some shit sandwich today  
Jints in Carolina : 8/3/2022 3:58 pm : link
Cole never gave us a chance.
Glad they sat Judge again.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/3/2022 3:59 pm : link
Let's just continue to sit him the rest of the second half.
RE: that was some shit sandwich today  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/3/2022 4:00 pm : link
In comment 15771157 Jints in Carolina said:
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Cole never gave us a chance.


Bingo.
RE: ....  
Stan in LA : 8/3/2022 4:05 pm : link
In comment 15771119 BleedBlue said:
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Castillo is a fucking stud...boy we could use him.


3 ER's in 6+ innings? not exactly Sandy Koufax.
RE: RE: Severino was 23 years old in his first playoff start  
Victor in CT : 8/3/2022 4:18 pm : link
In comment 15771133 Mike from SI said:
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In comment 15771116 Greg from LI said:


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in that Minnesota game. Come on.

Andy Pettitte didn't have a particularly good playoff start until his fifth playoff series, his 1-0 masterpiece in the 1996 WS. His first start in that series, he was bombed for 7 runs in 2.1 IP



Ok, well I'm gonna want Sev to prove it after his blow-ups before I feel comfortable with him in the playoffs. I think that's a pretty defensible opinion.


Bigger question now is if he stays healthy enough to actually pitch in a playoff game.
Inconsistent Cole  
Sec 103 : 8/3/2022 5:19 pm : link
NG!!! Too many games like this so far in 2022.... And let's not forget that beauty in Beantown in 21
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arcarsenal : 8/3/2022 5:39 pm : link
The bad news is that Cole really, really spit the fucking bit today and has a major issue where he has one blowup inning in several starts.

In the inning where he allows the most runs this season, his ERA is over 18. Yes, 18. And then, in all other innings, his ERA is 0.81.

In other words, if you look at all of his starts, there is often a real shit inning in there somewhere surrounded by a ton of scoreless or minimal-damage frames.

For example, against the Royals in the start before this one... he pitched 6 innings and allowed 5 runs. All 5 runs came in one frame. The other 5 innings were scoreless. Again today, 6 runs came in the first frame, and then he went 5 scoreless.

So, this basically corroborates what my perception of him has been. There's a damage-limiting issue with Cole where the dam breaks open and he can't stop it.

The good news is that in the very same games where he's looking like a gigantic bag of garbage, he's often *also* firing off several quality innings.

He's not injured. But the question is, how does this get addressed and how do they stop this from happening?

I can't answer that. But if we're looking for any silver lining, it seems like the Ace version of Cole is still in there; but there's one inning in a lot of his starts that is spoiling it. Matt Blake and Gerrit are going to need to sit down and figure this shit out and soon.
I'm busy w work  
Mike from SI : 8/3/2022 5:46 pm : link
so don't have time to find the link, but I saw a statement by Cashman on Twitter strongly suggesting either that Nestor doesn't have an innings limit or that they're unconcerned about it. Apparently, he typically throws a lot of innings in winter ball (which is taken very seriously in places like DR).

One thing I'll say for Cashman, he has cahones. He must have known that Monty trade would get criticized and that he'll look awful if it blows up in the playoffs.
RE: RE: that was some shit sandwich today  
Carson53 : 8/3/2022 5:46 pm : link
In comment 15771162 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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Cole never gave us a chance.



Bingo.
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Glad I missed it, was at a AAA game today at Polar Park.
Great seats, behind the plate, near the Club seats.
Three HR's in the first inning Cole, yikes!
RE: RE: ....  
BleedBlue : 8/3/2022 6:54 pm : link
In comment 15771167 Stan in LA said:
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Castillo is a fucking stud...boy we could use him.




3 ER's in 6+ innings? not exactly Sandy Koufax.


He 5 hit a good lineup un his first start on road with new team
Cole is one of, if not  
UConn4523 : 8/3/2022 7:32 pm : link
my least favorite yankee signings in quite some time. Don’t know why we got baited into rewarding a Houston pitcher with that kind of contract but here we are. Need to just cross your fingers on him come playoff time that he can give you 6, I really don’t think of him much more than that post Spidertack.
I don't care about trading Monty as much as I don't like the return  
Matt M. : 8/3/2022 7:38 pm : link
He's not great, but still a pretty good pitcher at #4 or #5. It doesn't hurt that he's a lefty in Yankee Stadium. Why trade him for an injured OF who is a mediocre hitter. He has limited power and his OBA is about average. I get that he is a plus glove and will allow them to shift Judge to RF, but I just don't view him as valuable as Montgomery. I would have wanted a better player.
RE: .  
JoeMoney19 : 8/3/2022 7:40 pm : link
In comment 15771291 arcarsenal said:
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The bad news is that Cole really, really spit the fucking bit today and has a major issue where he has one blowup inning in several starts.

In the inning where he allows the most runs this season, his ERA is over 18. Yes, 18. And then, in all other innings, his ERA is 0.81.

In other words, if you look at all of his starts, there is often a real shit inning in there somewhere surrounded by a ton of scoreless or minimal-damage frames.

For example, against the Royals in the start before this one... he pitched 6 innings and allowed 5 runs. All 5 runs came in one frame. The other 5 innings were scoreless. Again today, 6 runs came in the first frame, and then he went 5 scoreless.

So, this basically corroborates what my perception of him has been. There's a damage-limiting issue with Cole where the dam breaks open and he can't stop it.

The good news is that in the very same games where he's looking like a gigantic bag of garbage, he's often *also* firing off several quality innings.

He's not injured. But the question is, how does this get addressed and how do they stop this from happening?

I can't answer that. But if we're looking for any silver lining, it seems like the Ace version of Cole is still in there; but there's one inning in a lot of his starts that is spoiling it. Matt Blake and Gerrit are going to need to sit down and figure this shit out and soon.

Interesting stat. Is there an easy way to sort for that somewhere? On the surface averaging two earned runs in your worst inning per start doesn’t sound like a lot to me but maybe it is relatively. Just curious to see how that stacks up.
RE: I don't care about trading Monty as much as I don't like the return  
UConn4523 : 8/3/2022 7:53 pm : link
In comment 15771398 Matt M. said:
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He's not great, but still a pretty good pitcher at #4 or #5. It doesn't hurt that he's a lefty in Yankee Stadium. Why trade him for an injured OF who is a mediocre hitter. He has limited power and his OBA is about average. I get that he is a plus glove and will allow them to shift Judge to RF, but I just don't view him as valuable as Montgomery. I would have wanted a better player.


Pretty simple - 1 guy will help us in the playoffs, the other wouldn’t. If it moves Hicks to the bench and Judge over to RF, that’s massive. We can get another roughly 4 eta pitcher to eat innings, what good is a #4/5 in the ALCS?
RE: RE: I don't care about trading Monty as much as I don't like the return  
Mike from SI : 8/3/2022 8:01 pm : link
In comment 15771410 UConn4523 said:
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He's not great, but still a pretty good pitcher at #4 or #5. It doesn't hurt that he's a lefty in Yankee Stadium. Why trade him for an injured OF who is a mediocre hitter. He has limited power and his OBA is about average. I get that he is a plus glove and will allow them to shift Judge to RF, but I just don't view him as valuable as Montgomery. I would have wanted a better player.



Pretty simple - 1 guy will help us in the playoffs, the other wouldn’t. If it moves Hicks to the bench and Judge over to RF, that’s massive. We can get another roughly 4 eta pitcher to eat innings, what good is a #4/5 in the ALCS?


Unless you want to start Mr. Porcelain Gerrit Cole on short rest, a #4 starter is good for...one very important start!

That said, I'm warming up to this. It seems like they're 100% confident Sevy will be back.
We can start Sevy or German  
UConn4523 : 8/3/2022 8:05 pm : link
in an emergency. Both are better when healthy, obviously that’s an IF but their track record is better than Monty. Someone else mentioned Schmidt, he too might be as good/better.
RE: We can start Sevy or German  
Mike from SI : 8/3/2022 8:12 pm : link
In comment 15771416 UConn4523 said:
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in an emergency. Both are better when healthy, obviously that’s an IF but their track record is better than Monty. Someone else mentioned Schmidt, he too might be as good/better.


Game 4 is not an emergency, it is a very predictable game, and considering Cole gets bent out of shape when his precious routine changes, it may be best not to start him on short rest.

If the 3 main pitchers stay healthy and Sevy starts game 4, this works out. If someone gets hurt or we get a dud from Taillon or German in Game 4 and lose a series, that's partially on Cashman. Out of Monty, Taillon, and German, I'd prefer Monty starting a playoff game. But that ship has sailed. I hope this works.
I sure dont  
UConn4523 : 8/3/2022 8:16 pm : link
he can’t handle big game situations well. It’s an absolute dice roll. And why can’t Cole start game 4 in the playoffs it’s why we gave that doofus $300m, lol. That’s the bigger Cashman blunder, not trading away our 4th/5th guy for an OF a upgrade and reinforcement for our likely long term investment in Judge.

I never knew how much our season hinged on Monty.
RE: RE: I don't care about trading Monty as much as I don't like the return  
Matt M. : 8/3/2022 8:19 pm : link
In comment 15771410 UConn4523 said:
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He's not great, but still a pretty good pitcher at #4 or #5. It doesn't hurt that he's a lefty in Yankee Stadium. Why trade him for an injured OF who is a mediocre hitter. He has limited power and his OBA is about average. I get that he is a plus glove and will allow them to shift Judge to RF, but I just don't view him as valuable as Montgomery. I would have wanted a better player.



Pretty simple - 1 guy will help us in the playoffs, the other wouldn’t. If it moves Hicks to the bench and Judge over to RF, that’s massive. We can get another roughly 4 eta pitcher to eat innings, what good is a #4/5 in the ALCS?
His barely .300 OBA isn't exactly helping the offense...assuming he's even healthy.
Sure, he’s no slugger  
UConn4523 : 8/3/2022 8:26 pm : link
but we upgraded our defense and base running, does that not count? In the playoffs thats often the difference in winning/losing low scoring games.

I’m going to wait and see how this plays out. Maybe it’s a blunder, but I doubt it. Monty isn’t a playoff caliber pitcher.
RE: Sure, he’s no slugger  
Matt M. : 8/3/2022 8:32 pm : link
In comment 15771432 UConn4523 said:
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but we upgraded our defense and base running, does that not count? In the playoffs thats often the difference in winning/losing low scoring games.

I’m going to wait and see how this plays out. Maybe it’s a blunder, but I doubt it. Monty isn’t a playoff caliber pitcher.
UConn - Right now he's in a walking boot for at least another week and isn't likely to be able to play until sometime in September, the earliest. Even when off the IL, there is a good chance, with plantar fasciitis, he'll be playing in pain and some of his speed will be sapped. That certainly impacts his effect on the team when he's brought here for speed and defense.
Sky is falling  
djm : 8/3/2022 8:34 pm : link
My word.
RE: Sky is falling  
Matt M. : 8/3/2022 8:38 pm : link
In comment 15771440 djm said:
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My word.
djm - Do you not honestly question this team's preparedness for the post season. For weeks, too many have wanted to hang their hat on the "best record" argument. Well, that's not the case any longer and the goal was not win 100 games or make the playoffs. They've done that. What they haven't done in more than a decade is win the WS (or even get to the WS). Does this team seem poised to do it this year?

I don't think it's sky is falling. I think it's fans watching this team play like shit for the better part of the last few weeks and wonder if this will be another post season disappointment.
RE: RE: .  
arcarsenal : 8/3/2022 8:49 pm : link
In comment 15771402 JoeMoney19 said:
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The bad news is that Cole really, really spit the fucking bit today and has a major issue where he has one blowup inning in several starts.

In the inning where he allows the most runs this season, his ERA is over 18. Yes, 18. And then, in all other innings, his ERA is 0.81.

In other words, if you look at all of his starts, there is often a real shit inning in there somewhere surrounded by a ton of scoreless or minimal-damage frames.

For example, against the Royals in the start before this one... he pitched 6 innings and allowed 5 runs. All 5 runs came in one frame. The other 5 innings were scoreless. Again today, 6 runs came in the first frame, and then he went 5 scoreless.

So, this basically corroborates what my perception of him has been. There's a damage-limiting issue with Cole where the dam breaks open and he can't stop it.

The good news is that in the very same games where he's looking like a gigantic bag of garbage, he's often *also* firing off several quality innings.

He's not injured. But the question is, how does this get addressed and how do they stop this from happening?

I can't answer that. But if we're looking for any silver lining, it seems like the Ace version of Cole is still in there; but there's one inning in a lot of his starts that is spoiling it. Matt Blake and Gerrit are going to need to sit down and figure this shit out and soon.


Interesting stat. Is there an easy way to sort for that somewhere? On the surface averaging two earned runs in your worst inning per start doesn’t sound like a lot to me but maybe it is relatively. Just curious to see how that stacks up.


Someone broke it down into a table, I have to see if I can find it again. But just from grabbing some numbers, in his 22 starts, there were 13 different occasions this year where Cole allowed 2 or more runs in one single inning, and in the majority of them, he barely got touched in any other frame he pitched that day/night.

Opening Day - 4 total IP, 3 runs allowed in 1 inning, 0 runs allowed in the other 3
May 23rd - 8 total IP, 4 runs allowed in 1 inning, 1 run allowed in the other 7
July 7 - 6 total IP, 3 runs allowed in 1 inning, 2 runs allowed in the other 5
July 29 - 6 total IP, 5 runs allowed in 1 inning, 0 runs allowed in the other 5
Today - 6 total IP, 6 runs allowed in 1 inning, 0 runs allowed in the other 5

So, you can kind of see there that he's got a handful of singular innings this season where he's been tagged up pretty good, and then outside of that one inning, he typically pitches really well.

It just kind of shows that these aren't starts where he goes out there has absolutely nothing and needs to be yanked. It feels more like a mental lapse, or focus issue. I get the impression when Cole gives up a HR, he's still hanging onto that HR against the following hitter.

He can't pitch like that.
Matt  
UConn4523 : 8/3/2022 8:56 pm : link
I know. Are you suggesting the Yankees didn’t know that? I don’t think you are. So that means the Yankees must think he will be ready for the playoffs and also are looking forward to what he brings to the table in 2023.

Monty doesn’t help us in the 2022 or 2023 playoffs.
RE: Matt  
Matt M. : 8/3/2022 9:06 pm : link
In comment 15771448 UConn4523 said:
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I know. Are you suggesting the Yankees didn’t know that? I don’t think you are. So that means the Yankees must think he will be ready for the playoffs and also are looking forward to what he brings to the table in 2023.

Monty doesn’t help us in the 2022 or 2023 playoffs.
I think that 2nd point might be the key. This move might be more about next year, since Montgomery was vbery unlikely to do anything for them in October.
RE: RE: RE: .  
JoeMoney19 : 8/3/2022 9:30 pm : link
In comment 15771446 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 15771291 arcarsenal said:


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The bad news is that Cole really, really spit the fucking bit today and has a major issue where he has one blowup inning in several starts.

In the inning where he allows the most runs this season, his ERA is over 18. Yes, 18. And then, in all other innings, his ERA is 0.81.

In other words, if you look at all of his starts, there is often a real shit inning in there somewhere surrounded by a ton of scoreless or minimal-damage frames.

For example, against the Royals in the start before this one... he pitched 6 innings and allowed 5 runs. All 5 runs came in one frame. The other 5 innings were scoreless. Again today, 6 runs came in the first frame, and then he went 5 scoreless.

So, this basically corroborates what my perception of him has been. There's a damage-limiting issue with Cole where the dam breaks open and he can't stop it.

The good news is that in the very same games where he's looking like a gigantic bag of garbage, he's often *also* firing off several quality innings.

He's not injured. But the question is, how does this get addressed and how do they stop this from happening?

I can't answer that. But if we're looking for any silver lining, it seems like the Ace version of Cole is still in there; but there's one inning in a lot of his starts that is spoiling it. Matt Blake and Gerrit are going to need to sit down and figure this shit out and soon.


Interesting stat. Is there an easy way to sort for that somewhere? On the surface averaging two earned runs in your worst inning per start doesn’t sound like a lot to me but maybe it is relatively. Just curious to see how that stacks up.



Someone broke it down into a table, I have to see if I can find it again. But just from grabbing some numbers, in his 22 starts, there were 13 different occasions this year where Cole allowed 2 or more runs in one single inning, and in the majority of them, he barely got touched in any other frame he pitched that day/night.

Opening Day - 4 total IP, 3 runs allowed in 1 inning, 0 runs allowed in the other 3
May 23rd - 8 total IP, 4 runs allowed in 1 inning, 1 run allowed in the other 7
July 7 - 6 total IP, 3 runs allowed in 1 inning, 2 runs allowed in the other 5
July 29 - 6 total IP, 5 runs allowed in 1 inning, 0 runs allowed in the other 5
Today - 6 total IP, 6 runs allowed in 1 inning, 0 runs allowed in the other 5

So, you can kind of see there that he's got a handful of singular innings this season where he's been tagged up pretty good, and then outside of that one inning, he typically pitches really well.

It just kind of shows that these aren't starts where he goes out there has absolutely nothing and needs to be yanked. It feels more like a mental lapse, or focus issue. I get the impression when Cole gives up a HR, he's still hanging onto that HR against the following hitter.

He can't pitch like that.

Gotcha, thanks! No need to dig around for the original table. I was just a little surprised the overall number wasn’t higher given some of the disaster innings he’s had this year.
RE: RE: RE: RE: .  
Carson53 : 8/4/2022 12:44 pm : link
In comment 15771458 JoeMoney19 said:
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In comment 15771402 JoeMoney19 said:


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In comment 15771291 arcarsenal said:


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The bad news is that Cole really, really spit the fucking bit today and has a major issue where he has one blowup inning in several starts.

In the inning where he allows the most runs this season, his ERA is over 18. Yes, 18. And then, in all other innings, his ERA is 0.81.

In other words, if you look at all of his starts, there is often a real shit inning in there somewhere surrounded by a ton of scoreless or minimal-damage frames.

For example, against the Royals in the start before this one... he pitched 6 innings and allowed 5 runs. All 5 runs came in one frame. The other 5 innings were scoreless. Again today, 6 runs came in the first frame, and then he went 5 scoreless.

So, this basically corroborates what my perception of him has been. There's a damage-limiting issue with Cole where the dam breaks open and he can't stop it.

The good news is that in the very same games where he's looking like a gigantic bag of garbage, he's often *also* firing off several quality innings.

He's not injured. But the question is, how does this get addressed and how do they stop this from happening?

I can't answer that. But if we're looking for any silver lining, it seems like the Ace version of Cole is still in there; but there's one inning in a lot of his starts that is spoiling it. Matt Blake and Gerrit are going to need to sit down and figure this shit out and soon.


Interesting stat. Is there an easy way to sort for that somewhere? On the surface averaging two earned runs in your worst inning per start doesn’t sound like a lot to me but maybe it is relatively. Just curious to see how that stacks up.



Someone broke it down into a table, I have to see if I can find it again. But just from grabbing some numbers, in his 22 starts, there were 13 different occasions this year where Cole allowed 2 or more runs in one single inning, and in the majority of them, he barely got touched in any other frame he pitched that day/night.

Opening Day - 4 total IP, 3 runs allowed in 1 inning, 0 runs allowed in the other 3
May 23rd - 8 total IP, 4 runs allowed in 1 inning, 1 run allowed in the other 7
July 7 - 6 total IP, 3 runs allowed in 1 inning, 2 runs allowed in the other 5
July 29 - 6 total IP, 5 runs allowed in 1 inning, 0 runs allowed in the other 5
Today - 6 total IP, 6 runs allowed in 1 inning, 0 runs allowed in the other 5

So, you can kind of see there that he's got a handful of singular innings this season where he's been tagged up pretty good, and then outside of that one inning, he typically pitches really well.

It just kind of shows that these aren't starts where he goes out there has absolutely nothing and needs to be yanked. It feels more like a mental lapse, or focus issue. I get the impression when Cole gives up a HR, he's still hanging onto that HR against the following hitter.

He can't pitch like that.


Gotcha, thanks! No need to dig around for the original table. I was just a little surprised the overall number wasn’t higher given some of the disaster innings he’s had this year.
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I also recalled another start against the Twinkies in Minny.
For some reason, it stuck in my head...June 9th.

Cole allows 5 homers, Yankees rally past Twins 10-7.
MINNEAPOLIS -- — Gerrit Cole gave up home runs to his first three batters and a career-high five in 2 1/3 innings but the New York Yankees rallied to beat the Minnesota Twins 10-7 Thursday night...
https://www.espn.com/mlb/recap?gameId=401355093
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arcarsenal : 8/4/2022 12:50 pm : link
Yep, there was a blowup inning in that game too.

This has gone back to last year. I haven't checked, but I am positive you can find a handful of similar instances from 2021.

It seems a common refrain is just to pin a lot of this on spider tack and say Cole isn't the same guy without it, but I'm having a hard time understanding how he's mowing through the very same lineups that are crushing him in singular innings if this is just a sticky stuff issue.

He got annihilated in the first inning yesterday, but then he retired 15 of 17 hitters in the same exact lineup on the same exact day *after* he got rocked and fired off five scoreless frames. You can't do that if you just have nothing.

There's no doubt Cole had better control before the ban, I think he probably felt more comfortable pitching with the grip he had then - but he's still getting excellent results in the majority of the innings he pitches. He's just having these blips where it all snowballs on him and I truly believe this is a mental/focus thing more than anything else.

He's still throwing really hard, I don't think he's tired, I don't think he's hurt. I just think he totally loses his composure when things go a bit south and isn't limiting damage.
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arcarsenal : 8/4/2022 12:57 pm : link
If you guys remember Stephen Ridings... he's finally on his way back. He threw his first official BP today. Not sure what his timetable is, but he definitely flashed for us last year in his 5 appearances.
This is a really good interview with Cole  
capone : 8/4/2022 6:42 pm : link
He’s no meathead chucking it up there … but maybe he thinks too much ?
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Damn.  
Mike from SI : 8/4/2022 7:09 pm : link
Heyman said Monty wouldn't have even made the playoff roster. Guess we're higher on him than the club was....
For all those shitting on Cole  
rich in DC : 8/4/2022 7:23 pm : link
Maybe you need to look at a more simple factor than all the nonsense that’s been posted here.

In the 14 games with Trevino behind the plate, Cole has an ERA of 2.74 with a BA of .193 and 34.7% K.

In the 8 games with Higgy back there, his ERA is 5.97, with a BA of .272 and 31.8K.

I don’t know how to link to Twitter, but a guy named Kenny Ducey posted this after yesterday’s start.

The Yanks know the above- for all the pearl-clutching from the we lost a game crowd and the howls from the anti-Cashman brigade- and it is a near certainty that Higgy won’t be catching many, if any, playoff games.

yes, Cole had VERY similar splits with Higgy and Sanchez last year. But that’s not unusual- many high end SP have C they prefer and just pitch better to. At this point in the season, we have enough starts to see that Cole and Higgy just are not on the same page and shouldn’t be paired up.

However, since yesterday’s game doesn’t mean much in the larger scheme of things, the Yanks weren’t going to wear out Trevino by having him start a day game after a night game.

Sometimes the game really is that simple- but the agenda-driven posts on here are hilarious in how they try and justify EVERYTHING through Cole.
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wigs in nyc : 8/4/2022 7:56 pm : link
In comment 15771754 arcarsenal said:
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If you guys remember Stephen Ridings... he's finally on his way back. He threw his first official BP today. Not sure what his timetable is, but he definitely flashed for us last year in his 5 appearances.


thanks for sharing that, arc! I’d be really excited to see how he does upon the return trail - he could be a real unexpected boost down the stretch here, though I’m not sure there’s much of a spot unless someone gets hurt.
RE: This is a really good interview with Cole  
Victor in CT : 8/5/2022 7:36 am : link
In comment 15771985 capone said:
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He’s no meathead chucking it up there … but maybe he thinks too much ? Link - ( New Window )


yes I think he does overthink it.

"don't think, it can only hurt the ballclub." - Crash Davis
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arcarsenal : 8/5/2022 9:23 am : link
In comment 15772042 wigs in nyc said:
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If you guys remember Stephen Ridings... he's finally on his way back. He threw his first official BP today. Not sure what his timetable is, but he definitely flashed for us last year in his 5 appearances.



thanks for sharing that, arc! I’d be really excited to see how he does upon the return trail - he could be a real unexpected boost down the stretch here, though I’m not sure there’s much of a spot unless someone gets hurt.


No problem! And I agree; although it doesn't look like there's going to be a spot for him in the 2022 pen, I am looking forward to seeing how he performs as he works his way back and it's good to know there's another live arm on the way.

He was throwing some easy cheese when we were first introduced to him.
yeah, Ridings looked great out of nowhere last season  
Greg from LI : 8/5/2022 1:59 pm : link
And then almost immediately got hurt. Hope he gets back to that form quickly.
An interesting FA note for the off-season  
rich in DC : 8/5/2022 2:41 pm : link
When Verlander hit the 130 IP mark this week, he kicked in a clause in his contract that switched the 2023 option he had to a player option.

Reportedly, he plans to exercise the option, as he believes his market was negatively impacted by the QO that the Astros put on him last year. Since under the CBA, a player can only get a QO once in his career, Verlander apparently believes that if he opts out, there will be a robust market for his service.

Remember as well that the reports were that the Yanks were the runners up to sign Verlander. With no QO, they might be tempted to simply give him a blank check and get him.

That would resolve a lot of questions about the staff. I wonder if Verlander's agent has been spreading the word about his intentions this off-season and teams are acting accordingly? A staff of Cole, Verlander, Cortes, Montas and Sevy would really be something.
made a mistake in the above  
rich in DC : 8/5/2022 2:43 pm : link
it should have said that reportedly, Verlander plans to turn down the option. I should also give credit to the page reporting this.


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The Yankees not signing Verlander might go down  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/5/2022 2:47 pm : link
as one of the biggest mistakes this franchise has made in a very, very long time. It literally decided the fates of the two organizations.

Big, big miss. But at least we have Gerrit Cole..
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