AAA
Alvarez 1-4, HR, K, passed ball
Vientos was in the lineup but didn't play. No indication he was called up, possibly didn't feel well?
Otanez 1 inning 0 hits 0 runs 1 walk 0 k's
AA
Baty 1-4, BB, 2 errors
Mauricio 2-5, K, error (5/11 in August)
Meyer 1-5
Hartwig 1 inning 1 hit 0 er 1 walk 2 k's ( It wasn't his cleanest outing (hit and a walk) but Grant Hartwig struck out 2 lowering his era to 1.89 on the season over 27 appearances and his era since signing with the Mets as a UDFA now stands at 2.17)
A+
Ramirez 0-4, 4 k's
Consuegra 0-4, K
Hardy 1 inning 0 hits 0 runs 1 walk 1 k (nice breakout season)
A
Lugo 1-3, BB, 2's (sleeper)
Tilien 1-3, BB, 2 k's
Paz 1-1 3b (has gone from the DSL to A ball in one season. A physical specimen, one concern, for a guy who is considered a plus athlete, they have him 1b/DH quite often.)
ODLS 1-4 2 steals (53)
Ziegler (first appearance in 6 weeks due to biceps tendonitis) 0.2 innings 0 runs 3 walks 1 k (pulled due due to pitch count)
Diaz 6 innings 1 hit 0 runs 1 walk 6 k's (My performer of the day)
"Hidden talent: "My true hidden talent is being able to fart with my hands. I've always been able to do it. I'll even do it in the dugout. There was one spring training where I did it to Dontrelle Willis all the time. He thought I was really farting on him the whole spring, and finally he got sick of it. So he sat on me one day and farted on me. I had to be like, time out, Dontrelle; like, this was a joke the whole spring."
So I put it on twitter and Dontrelle Willis actually confirmed the story lol
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This is very true story 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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value is over $26M today, almost $27M. And if he hits the fWAR number you cited his fangraphs value would probably be around $30M
#1 That implies he's certainly a top level player
#2 Players don't get their "fangraphs value". Jose Ramirez has been worth 90 million dollars since opening day last season and over 40 million now 5 times. Lindor was "worth" 34 million last season and "everybody" was disappointed with his season (including himself). Lindor has been "worth" 40+ million 5 times in his career, did anybody expect him to get 40+ million per season?
lol, we're done here. it's sort of disingenuous to cite the value of players under contract since they are obviously under contract, but if I'm not mistaken you cited Soto's fangraphs value when predicting his next contract.
I am not debating this any more.
Nimmo's injury history would give me some pause with how much I spent re-signing him. I don't even see how that's controversial. He's played over 100 games once in his 7 year career (before this year, a contract year).
And almost all his offensive numbers are down this year.
nothing I said is irrefutable in any way.
So they are hoping they have enough to win it all this season while burning another year off the careers of Scherzer and deGrom - then hoping they can sign deGrom again
Sadly, they traded off much of the underbelly in the seasons that preceded Cohen taking over. PCA was the move that everybody talks about being bad, but they dealt off Endy Rodriguez (for example), was seen as a bad move even at the time, and he'd now be a top 6-7 prospect in the system (just as an example). They were too free and easy because they had owners who were getting out of Dodge
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value is over $26M today, almost $27M. And if he hits the fWAR number you cited his fangraphs value would probably be around $30M
#1 That implies he's certainly a top level player
#2 Players don't get their "fangraphs value". Jose Ramirez has been worth 90 million dollars since opening day last season and over 40 million now 5 times. Lindor was "worth" 34 million last season and "everybody" was disappointed with his season (including himself). Lindor has been "worth" 40+ million 5 times in his career, did anybody expect him to get 40+ million per season?
lol, we're done here. it's sort of disingenuous to cite the value of players under contract since they are obviously under contract, but if I'm not mistaken you cited Soto's fangraphs value when predicting his next contract.
I am not debating this any more.
Nimmo's injury history would give me some pause with how much I spent re-signing him. I don't even see how that's controversial. He's played over 100 games once in his 7 year career (before this year, a contract year).
And almost all his offensive numbers are down this year.
nothing I said is irrefutable in any way.
When did I cite Soto's value on his next contract? You must be thinking of somebody else. I've never even discussed Juan Soto's projected contract on here outside of saying he will get more years than Ohtani (which he will).
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I think given Ziegler’s recent IL stint this may be right, and I say that as someone who thought Brown was getting a little too much hype in Phillies adjacent circles"
Buxton, Marte, and even Cain come to mind with some similarities. AJ pollock too. On phone so without looking them each up I’m pretty sure all were 4-5 years and in the 20m Aav range.
Springer is the biggest CF contract in the last few years and he’d be a best case scenario comp for nimmo that boras is probably asking for but I doubt anyone would do bc springers track record was both more reliable and more productive so imo anyone giving nimmo that much would be over aggressive. All it takes is 1 team to go big though and sometimes boras finds that team. But if nimmo is reasonable and wants to be back I think it will be in that 4-5 year 20-24m aav range.
Buxton, Marte, and even Cain come to mind with some similarities. AJ pollock too. On phone so without looking them each up I’m pretty sure all were 4-5 years and in the 20m Aav range.
Springer is the biggest CF contract in the last few years and he’d be a best case scenario comp for nimmo that boras is probably asking for but I doubt anyone would do bc springers track record was both more reliable and more productive so imo anyone giving nimmo that much would be over aggressive. All it takes is 1 team to go big though and sometimes boras finds that team. But if nimmo is reasonable and wants to be back I think it will be in that 4-5 year 20-24m aav range.
I think Nimmo will remain a “Michael Brantley”, underrated and undervalued even salary wise for his entire career thanks to a sum of parts skillset
I think this would be the 2nd or 3rd time for him? Im traveling most of aug so it’s a lock his eventual debut is a game I miss.
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The more recent and similar the closer they will be.
Buxton, Marte, and even Cain come to mind with some similarities. AJ pollock too. On phone so without looking them each up I’m pretty sure all were 4-5 years and in the 20m Aav range.
Springer is the biggest CF contract in the last few years and he’d be a best case scenario comp for nimmo that boras is probably asking for but I doubt anyone would do bc springers track record was both more reliable and more productive so imo anyone giving nimmo that much would be over aggressive. All it takes is 1 team to go big though and sometimes boras finds that team. But if nimmo is reasonable and wants to be back I think it will be in that 4-5 year 20-24m aav range.
I think Nimmo will remain a “Michael Brantley”, underrated and undervalued even salary wise for his entire career thanks to a sum of parts skillset
Another good comp - Brantley has also similar injury issues which is he’s gotten shorter deals but in that aav range. Buxton was a near perfect comp if nimmo extended in the spring and didn’t switch to boras.
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Alvarez has an .822 OPS in AAA. 18 games, 4 HR, 4 doubles, 15 walks. Average up to .197
saw an insta post where he launched it out of the whole yard.
I posted the link to his HR in this thread...
Must see for everyone..
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On Vientos per a writer. COVID related seems at least plausible given the late pull and lack of information.
I think this would be the 2nd or 3rd time for him? Im traveling most of aug so it’s a lock his eventual debut is a game I miss.
Like I said, I’ve yet to see this confirmed anywhere but there are also “inconclusive” tests etc or even missing taking one. He hasn’t been promoted or wed know by now. Could easily just have felt a stomach bug etc
And i do feel the cold stretches are bigger issues for a team with so little power. We rely on stringing together hits and if everyone is cold thats hard to do.
Overall I think the lineup will be fine, biggest worry (outside of health of course) is how do you get the ball from Starter to Edwin, ha.
It's amazing how much Scott and Sandy managed to f*ck up in just one year.
draft class is in the lineup for the FCL @mets
today
It's amazing how much Scott and Sandy managed to f*ck up in just one year.
The chances of PCA being as good as Nimmo are slim...
It seems Eppler and Co. are really counting on Megill, DP and the odd-man-out starter in playoffs to fortify the bullpen.
Zaide obviously saw something he liked with Pucki and Giants have a long history of finding relievers. Yet, Mets did not even give him a chance in the pen despite their desperate need for a lefty?
I have to assume that they have a plan and I don't see anyone else other than DP.
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has been more then solid. And lugo has looked better. Problem is those are the only two guys i had confidence in. And lugo has all his weird issues with pitching two days in a row and blah blah blah. HOpefully May joins that group. None will feel lock down, but we do have an advantage that a lot of teams done, our starters go pretty deep into games (deep by todays standards)
It seems Eppler and Co. are really counting on Megill, DP and the odd-man-out starter in playoffs to fortify the bullpen.
Zaide obviously saw something he liked with Pucki and Giants have a long history of finding relievers. Yet, Mets did not even give him a chance in the pen despite their desperate need for a lefty?
I have to assume that they have a plan and I don't see anyone else other than DP.
St. John has a chance to be an acceptable LOOGY option.
Make that 5 1 hit innings, 8 k's. Despite the still unsightly 5.13 era, he now has 38 k's over 26.1 innings for the FCL Mets #Mets
Im sure they are looking at him as a late inning guy from the pen
No good lefty out of the bullpen may kill them in the playoffs. It is really an egregious mistake
Im sure they are looking at him as a late inning guy from the pen
No good lefty out of the bullpen may kill them in the playoffs. It is really an egregious mistake
I like Megill a lot but the splits are striking and you don't need fancy stats to see it.
Career vs. lefties .306/.371/.564-.934
Career vs. righties .198/.241/.325-.566
2022 vs. lefties
.287/.347/.471-.819
2022 vs. righties .194/.234/.306-.539
So he's been completely dominant vs. righties and extremely poor vs. lefties. To THIS point in his career, he's not somebody you could trust to pitch an inning in a spot where a top tier lefty hitter were due up. Really surprised these splits haven't been noted before (even by me).
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Only 1 bad start in his first 5, then he got hurt. 0 ER in 3 of his first 5 starts
Im sure they are looking at him as a late inning guy from the pen
No good lefty out of the bullpen may kill them in the playoffs. It is really an egregious mistake
I like Megill a lot but the splits are striking and you don't need fancy stats to see it.
Career vs. lefties .306/.371/.564-.934
Career vs. righties .198/.241/.325-.566
2022 vs. lefties
.287/.347/.471-.819
2022 vs. righties .194/.234/.306-.539
So he's been completely dominant vs. righties and extremely poor vs. lefties. To THIS point in his career, he's not somebody you could trust to pitch an inning in a spot where a top tier lefty hitter were due up. Really surprised these splits haven't been noted before (even by me).
Again, UNTIL HE WAS HURT, Megill was pitching very well. So what were the splits in his first 5 starts?
He also pitched well early last year before tiring later in the year
The splits you keep referring to are skewed from after he was hurt this year and after he tired last season
Interesting I saw you post something about how CU is not a good pitch for lefties vs him...
Traditionally.. a great CU IS an ideal out pitch for a RHP vs a LH batter, especially if the pitcher has a slider to play off...
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splits are troubling as a RP. He's borderline unpitchable vs. lefties. In the off-season they may figure out something that helps him combat them but on the fly that seems unlikely. I had not realized how bad his numbers were vs. them, seemingly if he somehow finds an outpitch against them it will be a gamechanger for his career.
Interesting I saw you post something about how CU is not a good pitch for lefties vs him...
Traditionally.. a great CU IS an ideal out pitch for a RHP vs a LH batter, especially if the pitcher has a slider to play off...
For him it hasn’t been. He has no describable out pitch vs. lefties.and believe it or not, velocity or not, his FB has actually been a below average pitch in 2022. I don’t know what the answer is for him vs. lefties. I’m not a pitching coach. But he’s been borderline unpitchable vs. lefties.
But right now his primary weapon against LH hitters is the changeup, which he throws about 20% of the time overall and probably a higher percentage to lefties.
Problem is that his fastball averages 95 and his change 89 mph. Not enough differential in mph for it to be super effective. Last year differential was more but hitters were picking up a change in his delivery. His altered delivery solved that problem but created another. These are the normal adjustments a young pitcher goes through.
That said, I think he will be effective in the pen because he can go mostly slider/fastball and mix in an occasional change. He does not need 20% change-ups like he does when facing the same hitters multiple times.
Maybe they can work with him a bit and he can be a weapon there.
He's got eyes we all trust more than your silly numbers :)
“I definitely wanted to add another weapon,”
He’s thrown the cutter a total of 19 times aka *5*th most of his pitches. He’s either junked it or it didn’t work
Now adding a gallon of gas might help, so you pull over. Ask for a tank of gas but all you have is a few dollar bills, and Benjamin and a couple thousand dollar bills.
You try your hardest to get a gallon, but cant.
So you are confident you can offer the $100 bill for a fillup to really give yourself a chance to make that trip with no problem.
They insist on a thousand dollar bill.
What do you do?
Instead, had a chance to trade some change hop in a hybrid, getting better mileage per gallon. Not a fillup, but you kept your money for future fillups, but on this trip you feel confident you can make it too.
Maybe they can work with him a bit and he can be a weapon there.
He is not a reliever and they bring him into a one-run game in the 8th to face the heart of the Yankees order with the whole stadium in a frenzy? Yeah, I think I'll give DP a pass on that one.
Let's see how he does in the pen after he gets his feet wet
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in his appearance out of the pen...and instead had a 1-2-3..wouldn't we be talking about him as an option?
Maybe they can work with him a bit and he can be a weapon there.
He is not a reliever and they bring him into a one-run game in the 8th to face the heart of the Yankees order with the whole stadium in a frenzy? Yeah, I think I'll give DP a pass on that one.
Let's see how he does in the pen after he gets his feet wet
Ideal world, they would have enough depth to legit move him to the Syracuse pen for a bit, see how he responds as a RP, how he responds pitching back to back days, coming into face a specific batter etc. They may yet to that and have Williams as the "next man up" in the rotation.
2021 .276
2020 .400 (only 10 ab's)
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The #Mets have signed RHP Joe Joe Rodriguez from St. John’s (NY) as an undrafted free agent.
He also pitched in the @mlbdraftleague
for Trenton, where he had a 2.17 ERA in 37.1 IP and was up to 95 mph.
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in his appearance out of the pen...and instead had a 1-2-3..wouldn't we be talking about him as an option?
Maybe they can work with him a bit and he can be a weapon there.
He is not a reliever and they bring him into a one-run game in the 8th to face the heart of the Yankees order with the whole stadium in a frenzy? Yeah, I think I'll give DP a pass on that one.
Let's see how he does in the pen after he gets his feet wet
Ideal world, they would have enough depth to legit move him to the Syracuse pen for a bit, see how he responds as a RP, how he responds pitching back to back days, coming into face a specific batter etc. They may yet to that and have Williams as the "next man up" in the rotation.
100%
Now adding a gallon of gas might help, so you pull over. Ask for a tank of gas but all you have is a few dollar bills, and Benjamin and a couple thousand dollar bills.
You try your hardest to get a gallon, but cant.
So you are confident you can offer the $100 bill for a fillup to really give yourself a chance to make that trip with no problem.
They insist on a thousand dollar bill.
What do you do?
Instead, had a chance to trade some change hop in a hybrid, getting better mileage per gallon. Not a fillup, but you kept your money for future fillups, but on this trip you feel confident you can make it too.
Interesting analogy.
But here's another one
You really want to live in Manhattan because you have a degree in finance and that's where the jobs are.
You have 100K saved up. However, you decide you are not willing to pay more than $900 for an apartment because you want to keep your savings intact for the future.
You contact several people with apartments to rent and offer $900 and they all turn you down.
Disappointed that nobody would give you what you wanted, you decide to move back in with your parents but when you call your mom to tell her, she says, "I'm sorry honey but while you were looking for an apartment, your cousin Austin from Atlanta moved in."