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NFT: Braves and Mets Game 1

ZGiants98 : 8/4/2022 7:02 pm
Mets Lineup

Brandon Nimmo CF
Starling Marte RF
Francisco Lindor SS
Pete Alonso 1B
Daniel Vogelbach DH
Jeff McNeil 2B
Tyler Naquin LF
Luis Guillorme 3B
James McCann C

Carlos Carrasco RHP

LFGM!
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RE: Great game!  
Dennis : 8/4/2022 10:05 pm : link
In comment 15772151 BigBlue in Keys said:
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Love this team!


I'm gonna be a nervous wreck by Sun night.
Love the 6 out save  
Gmanfandan : 8/4/2022 10:06 pm : link
For the opening game. Now we need to win 3 out of the next four and start to bury the braves.
Loving the pinching match ups rest of the way.
We're 4 1/2 up on the Braves,  
Dennis : 8/4/2022 10:09 pm : link
And if we win tomorrow, we're 30 games over 500. That's impressive.
RE: The Good Guys win!!  
moze1021 : 8/4/2022 10:10 pm : link
In comment 15772154 Optimus-NY said:
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I thought Diaz was in trouble 3-0, but we'll take it!


He was in trouble!! Lol.. I think he was gassed
What do you guys think abt the SP matchups for the rest of the series?  
Optimus-NY : 8/4/2022 10:10 pm : link
The Mets are short a couple of guys who can help the squad in  
Optimus-NY : 8/4/2022 10:14 pm : link
Megill and Smith. Tylor looks liek he'll be back at the end of this month. Any news on Drew Smith's progress? Fair point the other night btw about him pitching hurt on our game thread.
I think the Mets have the SP advantage  
KDavies : 8/4/2022 10:17 pm : link
in each of the next 4 games
RE: I think the Mets have the SP advantage  
Optimus-NY : 8/4/2022 10:19 pm : link
In comment 15772164 KDavies said:
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in each of the next 4 games


Agreed. I'm REALLY looking forward to Jake's start on Sunday. Will they up his pitch limit form 75-80? I'm assuming so. Guessing it'll be 85-90 maybe? Is that too much?
Great win, huge outing from Diaz  
Eric on Li : 8/4/2022 10:22 pm : link
Love getting him this kind of recreated playoff experience so he knows he can do it.

I’m looking forward to getting Ruf into a game with a lefty coming up.
RE: Great win, huge outing from Diaz  
Optimus-NY : 8/4/2022 10:30 pm : link
In comment 15772169 Eric on Li said:
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Love getting him this kind of recreated playoff experience so he knows he can do it.

I’m looking forward to getting Ruf into a game with a lefty coming up.


Was thinking the same about Diaz. Definitely a simulation of sorts and a test of his limits.

Good point about Ruf against the lefty Fried on Saturday in the first game of the Double Header.
Don’t want to jump the gun  
Eli owns all : 8/4/2022 10:32 pm : link
But we have a very favorable September

1 vs LAD
3 vs Wash
3 @ Pitt
3 @ mia
3 vs Cubs
3 vs Pitt
3 @ Mil
3 @ Oak
3 vs Mia
1 @ Atl
RE: Don’t want to jump the gun  
Optimus-NY : 8/4/2022 10:40 pm : link
In comment 15772173 Eli owns all said:
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But we have a very favorable September

1 vs LAD
3 vs Wash
3 @ Pitt
3 @ mia
3 vs Cubs
3 vs Pitt
3 @ Mil
3 @ Oak
3 vs Mia
1 @ Atl


Out of that bunch, the following 5 stand out:

1 @ LAD
1 @ ATL
3 @ MIL

Our August is difficult though. The only games that are gonna be "easy" (I hate to say that) are the 3 against Cincy coming up at home (8/8 - 8/10) and the 4 against the Rockies also at home (8/25 - 8/28).


NYM August schedule - ( New Window )
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moespree : 8/4/2022 10:43 pm : link
Tyler Naquin is 6-for-17 with a double, a triple, and two home runs with the Mets so far.

A serious upgrade over Janokowski. Probably Canha too in the long-run.
I cant wait for Megill and Smith  
ZGiants98 : 8/4/2022 10:44 pm : link
to replace J Rod and Hunter. Pen will be locked and loaded then. I actually could see Megill emerging as the 8th inning guy in the postseason.

Lastly, I think you have to call up Alvarez on August 31st so he's at least eligible for the postseason. His season ends in AAA in September anyway and I think if he finishes hot, you gotta carry him, even if only on the bench.
August schedule is no joke  
Optimus-NY : 8/4/2022 10:49 pm : link
Playing the Braves 9 games. Before you know it, the Mets will be down in the ATL for 4 (8/15 - 8/18). We've also got the Phils for 7 games, with 3 at home and 4 in Philly.

Add to that two against the the teams with two best records in MLB: two games vs. the Dodgers at Citi & two more games against the Prison Stripers in the BX.
RE: I cant wait for Megill and Smith  
Optimus-NY : 8/4/2022 10:53 pm : link
In comment 15772180 ZGiants98 said:
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to replace J Rod and Hunter. Pen will be locked and loaded then. I actually could see Megill emerging as the 8th inning guy in the postseason.

Lastly, I think you have to call up Alvarez on August 31st so he's at least eligible for the postseason. His season ends in AAA in September anyway and I think if he finishes hot, you gotta carry him, even if only on the bench.


Good points. When do we get Smith back again?

Side note - Here are the NL East standings after tonight's game:

RE: RE: I think the Mets have the SP advantage  
Snablats : 8/4/2022 10:57 pm : link
In comment 15772166 Optimus-NY said:
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in each of the next 4 games



Agreed. I'm REALLY looking forward to Jake's start on Sunday. Will they up his pitch limit form 75-80? I'm assuming so. Guessing it'll be 85-90 maybe? Is that too much?

deGrom threw just 59 pitches on Tuesday, so 75 tops is probably the goal for Sunday
RE: RE: RE: I think the Mets have the SP advantage  
Optimus-NY : 8/4/2022 11:01 pm : link
In comment 15772185 Snablats said:
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In comment 15772166 Optimus-NY said:


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In comment 15772164 KDavies said:


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in each of the next 4 games



Agreed. I'm REALLY looking forward to Jake's start on Sunday. Will they up his pitch limit form 75-80? I'm assuming so. Guessing it'll be 85-90 maybe? Is that too much?


deGrom threw just 59 pitches on Tuesday, so 75 tops is probably the goal for Sunday


We'll need Trevor Williams then to be ready to come in that case possibly as early as the 4th/5th. The later the better of course if long relief is needed.
If you want to have some fun  
ZGiants98 : 8/4/2022 11:08 pm : link
go over to Battery Power.
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RE: RE: RE: I think the Mets have the SP advantage  
ZGiants98 : 8/4/2022 11:09 pm : link
In comment 15772185 Snablats said:
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In comment 15772166 Optimus-NY said:


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In comment 15772164 KDavies said:


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in each of the next 4 games



Agreed. I'm REALLY looking forward to Jake's start on Sunday. Will they up his pitch limit form 75-80? I'm assuming so. Guessing it'll be 85-90 maybe? Is that too much?


deGrom threw just 59 pitches on Tuesday, so 75 tops is probably the goal for Sunday


He very likely threw an extra 15 pitches or so on the side after the game. He was on an innings/pitch count last game. It was 75 or 5 innings, whichever came first.

I bet he can go 80-90 on Sunday.
RE: If you want to have some fun  
moespree : 8/4/2022 11:22 pm : link
In comment 15772188 ZGiants98 said:
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I notice there what I always seem to notice this entire season from Braves fans. They think the Mets are an average team that gets lucky.

And it seems to me this is mostly based on the fact that the Mets score runs and win games in what is now considered non-traditional ways in modern baseball. That fanbase can't seem to wrap their head around the fact, that yes, you can win and be a first place team without mashing 5 homeruns a game.
Mets found their 8th inning pitcher  
CooperDash : 8/4/2022 11:29 pm : link
Diaz in the 8th to set up Diaz in the 9th!
RE: Mets found their 8th inning pitcher  
speedywheels : 8/4/2022 11:33 pm : link
In comment 15772195 CooperDash said:
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Diaz in the 8th to set up Diaz in the 9th!


😂😂
After the 8th  
Pete in MD : 8/4/2022 11:43 pm : link
Walker was in the dugout asking if Diaz was going to pitch the 9th.
RE: After the 8th  
sshin05 : 8/5/2022 12:15 am : link
In comment 15772203 Pete in MD said:
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Walker was in the dugout asking if Diaz was going to pitch the 9th.


Good catch by SNY camera crew
strider  
sshin05 : 8/5/2022 12:20 am : link
is really good, this is a tougher match up for Mets. He struck out 13 against the Phillies in 6+ in his last start. His fastball was hitting 100.
RE: If you want to have some fun  
Optimus-NY : 8/5/2022 12:41 am : link
In comment 15772188 ZGiants98 said:
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Thanks. Was reading through it. These Bravos fans are in denial, but some understand the reality: the Mets' roster is stacked and better than theirs.
RE: RE: After the 8th  
Snablats : 8/5/2022 12:42 am : link
In comment 15772210 sshin05 said:
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In comment 15772203 Pete in MD said:


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Walker was in the dugout asking if Diaz was going to pitch the 9th.



Good catch by SNY camera crew

The best part of that sequence was Keith or Ron saying that Walker is saying "wait a minute, I wanted Diaz for my start tomorrow night"
RE: strider  
allstarjim : 8/5/2022 3:10 am : link
In comment 15772212 sshin05 said:
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is really good, this is a tougher match up for Mets. He struck out 13 against the Phillies in 6+ in his last start. His fastball was hitting 100.


Yup, Strider's first and only start against this year, 4.2 IP, 1 ER, 8 Ks. 13.8 K/9 this year so far. He's an incredible talent. Really happy we have Jake up against him, even if it's unlikely he goes 7.

Let's just sweep the series. That's not being greedy, right?
Steven Cohen  
Ira : 8/5/2022 3:13 am : link
@StevenACohen2
Replying to
@PhotobombChamp
Diaz is 28. You want me to sign him for life . He might live to 100 . This could be really expensive
Braves are still the team to beat  
moze1021 : 8/5/2022 6:31 am : link
Reigning World Champs and they are pretty darn stacked as well..

This won't be easy. I'd sign up right now for taking 2/4 and leaving up 4.5 ahead.

Game today is pretty huge!

CRAZY stat is that the Braves have still not lost more than 2 games in a row this year.

They have lost their last 2, so Mets have a chance to make Braves last team in the Majors to lose 3 straight tonight.
Braves are 11-0  
moze1021 : 8/5/2022 6:34 am : link
Following 2 straight losses
11-1 after tonight!  
johnnyb : 8/5/2022 7:18 am : link
LGM!,
Coffee  
PakistanPete : 8/5/2022 7:52 am : link
tasting good this morning!
Mets have the #2 bullpen in baseball per FG  
ZGiants98 : 8/5/2022 8:26 am : link
After the updated Givens addition. Only the Braves have better.
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RE: If you want to have some fun  
Gmanfandan : 8/5/2022 9:10 am : link
In comment 15772188 ZGiants98 said:
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go over to Battery Power. Link - ( New Window )
I have to believe most of their takes are based on Chip Carey who is the WORST announcer in all of MLB - he calls the Braves WE and whenever another team does well says its luck or the Braves being unlucky. I have to suffer through that guy thanks to MLB blackout rules -
And that's just what this BB talks about - how the Mets are lucky- and to Z's point - it WAS fun
RE: RE: If you want to have some fun  
moze1021 : 8/5/2022 9:19 am : link
In comment 15772300 Gmanfandan said:
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In comment 15772188 ZGiants98 said:


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go over to Battery Power. Link - ( New Window )

I have to believe most of their takes are based on Chip Carey who is the WORST announcer in all of MLB - he calls the Braves WE and whenever another team does well says its luck or the Braves being unlucky. I have to suffer through that guy thanks to MLB blackout rules -
And that's just what this BB talks about - how the Mets are lucky- and to Z's point - it WAS fun


A lot of announcers around the league are like this..

Gary/Keith/Ron are an exception to the rule.

Yes, they root for the Mets. But they are not "homers". They criticize the Mets when they should, and they applaud the opponent when credit is due.

Example from just last night: They did not like bringing Diaz out for 2 innings and they let it be known
The  
DanMetroMan : 8/5/2022 9:27 am : link
absolute worst is Ken Harrelson
He  
DanMetroMan : 8/5/2022 9:31 am : link
ended up being a trash human (and I LOVE Keth Hernandez) but I didn't like the way he openly disliked Reyes (in part allowing his personal bad relationship bleed into his coverage), overall the Mets booth is incredible. Not a huge fan of the SNY in-studio talent, however.
RE: Mets have the #2 bullpen in baseball per FG  
Eric on Li : 8/5/2022 10:46 am : link
In comment 15772272 ZGiants98 said:
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After the updated Givens addition. Only the Braves have better. Link - ( New Window )


by that metric it’s almost entirely Diaz. They actually have Givens as 0 fwar so he doesn’t even factor in. The other 4 net positives they have are ottavino at .2 and lugo, may, joely at .1. So that metric is saying the Mets bp is better than the padres by joely.

If Diaz keeps pitching the way he is that’s the most important factor by a large margin - so the ranking isn’t wrong. It’s just a lot on 1 player and there’s no rule they couldn’t have added someone with more closing exp to take some of that load off.
In light of the relief situation here’s a timely article  
Eric on Li : 8/5/2022 10:59 am : link
Other than vets who get released this might be the most intriguing section. Anyone have a matt hall scouting report?

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4. Scour the Independent Leagues

Roll your eyes all you want, but the Atlantic League, Frontier League and American Association (among other indie circuits) are all teeming with former big leaguers. Need a speedy fourth outfielder who can provide some late-game defense and baserunning during September roster expansion? A platoon bat off the bench? An extra southpaw to stash in the bullpen? There will be experienced names to consider.

Matt Adams has 21 homers in 306 plate appearances with the Kansas City Monarchs. His teammate, former Tigers/Red Sox lefty Matt Hall, has a 1.24 ERA and 65 strikeouts in 51 innings. Fellow lefty Tyler Webb has had similar success with the Long Island Ducks.

Granted, teams aren’t likely to find a true impact player on the indie scene, but then again, people cracked jokes when the 2015 Red Sox signed then-35-year-old Ducks lefty Rich Hill. Seven years, 737 Major League innings and nearly $70MM later, Hill has the last laugh.

How To Acquire Players After The Trade Deadline - ( New Window )
RE: RE: If you want to have some fun  
Dr. D : 8/5/2022 11:09 am : link
In comment 15772300 Gmanfandan said:
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In comment 15772188 ZGiants98 said:


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go over to Battery Power. Link - ( New Window )

I have to believe most of their takes are based on Chip Carey who is the WORST announcer in all of MLB - he calls the Braves WE and whenever another team does well says its luck or the Braves being unlucky. I have to suffer through that guy thanks to MLB blackout rules

I feel your pain, a little, bc of the MLB blackout rules, I have to watch the Marlins broadcast whenever they play them. They're not terrible, they're actually pretty complimentary of the Mets this year, but I'd rather listen to Gary, Keith and Ron. Guess I'm glad I don't have to listen to Chip Carey.
MLB.TV users  
PakistanPete : 8/5/2022 11:38 am : link
should definitely get a VPN.

I couldn't imagine sitting through a Braves broadcast. Yuck.
RE: MLB.TV users  
Rory : 8/5/2022 2:46 pm : link
In comment 15772458 PakistanPete said:
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should definitely get a VPN.

I couldn't imagine sitting through a Braves broadcast. Yuck.


can you recommend a good VPN PP? I have been through 3 so far and they are trash.
RE: In light of the relief situation here’s a timely article  
DanMetroMan : 8/5/2022 2:51 pm : link
In comment 15772421 Eric on Li said:
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Other than vets who get released this might be the most intriguing section. Anyone have a matt hall scouting report?



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4. Scour the Independent Leagues

Roll your eyes all you want, but the Atlantic League, Frontier League and American Association (among other indie circuits) are all teeming with former big leaguers. Need a speedy fourth outfielder who can provide some late-game defense and baserunning during September roster expansion? A platoon bat off the bench? An extra southpaw to stash in the bullpen? There will be experienced names to consider.

Matt Adams has 21 homers in 306 plate appearances with the Kansas City Monarchs. His teammate, former Tigers/Red Sox lefty Matt Hall, has a 1.24 ERA and 65 strikeouts in 51 innings. Fellow lefty Tyler Webb has had similar success with the Long Island Ducks.

Granted, teams aren’t likely to find a true impact player on the indie scene, but then again, people cracked jokes when the 2015 Red Sox signed then-35-year-old Ducks lefty Rich Hill. Seven years, 737 Major League innings and nearly $70MM later, Hill has the last laugh.

How To Acquire Players After The Trade Deadline - ( New Window )


Hall used to be with Boston. He's a slop thrower. If that's changed I wouldn't know.
RE: RE: RE: If you want to have some fun  
Dennis : 8/5/2022 2:56 pm : link
In comment 15772430 Dr. D said:
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In comment 15772300 Gmanfandan said:


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In comment 15772188 ZGiants98 said:


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go over to Battery Power. Link - ( New Window )

I have to believe most of their takes are based on Chip Carey who is the WORST announcer in all of MLB - he calls the Braves WE and whenever another team does well says its luck or the Braves being unlucky. I have to suffer through that guy thanks to MLB blackout rules


I feel your pain, a little, bc of the MLB blackout rules, I have to watch the Marlins broadcast whenever they play them. They're not terrible, they're actually pretty complimentary of the Mets this year, but I'd rather listen to Gary, Keith and Ron. Guess I'm glad I don't have to listen to Chip Carey.


Me too. I'm in FL also, and I have to listen/watch The Marlin's broadcast. I think they are terrible, especially compared to Gary, Keith and Ron, who I think are the best broadcasting team I've ever heard. I loved Vin Scully, and I liked Lindsay Nelson, Ralph Kiner and Bob Murphy, but I think Gary et al. are the best ever. Chip Caray is awful, in my opinion.
Is it me  
Hazlet Giant's Fan : 8/5/2022 3:04 pm : link
Or does Chip Cary call all the Braves by their first names during the broadcast. Atlanta blacks out MLB in South Carolina. He is the worst homer in all of sports.
Sorry Caray  
Hazlet Giant's Fan : 8/5/2022 3:07 pm : link
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RE: RE: MLB.TV users  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/5/2022 3:17 pm : link
In comment 15772602 Rory said:
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In comment 15772458 PakistanPete said:


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should definitely get a VPN.

I couldn't imagine sitting through a Braves broadcast. Yuck.



can you recommend a good VPN PP? I have been through 3 so far and they are trash.


Tried SurfShark? That's what I'm using presently.
Duffey  
DanMetroMan : 8/5/2022 3:50 pm : link
DFA’ed. bad yeah but Hefner had him in Minnesota. Might be a name to watch
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