NFT: Mets Minors 8/5/2022

Steven Cohen
@StevenACohen2
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10h
Diaz is 28. You want me to sign him for life . He might live to 100 . This could be really expensive

@WexlerRules
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10h
Best closer in baseball. Lock him up! (And please, please please…)
@TimmyTrumpet
live at Citi for his intro


Timmy Trumpet
@TimmyTrumpet

I'm down! Let's make it happen 🎺

Geber touched 95.1 during the week of 7/22-7/25 the tied for the top FB velocity in the league for that week #Mets


MLB Draft League Data
@draftleaguedata
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Jul 25
𝚃𝚘𝚙 𝙵𝚊𝚜𝚝𝚋𝚊𝚕𝚕 𝚂𝚙𝚒𝚗 𝚁𝚊𝚝𝚎𝚜 - 𝙹𝚞𝚕𝚢 𝟸𝟸-𝟸𝟺

Jonathan Pintaro, FRE - 2647.8 RPM
Chad Coles, MV - 2615
Jordan Geber, FRE - 2612.3

So..... Nico Hoerner... since last season 133 games 4.2 fWAR? Where was I? lol

ichael Mayer
@mikemayer22
Mets have signed undrafted Canadian right-hander Mathieu Voros.

Voros is a high schooler that pitched at the TNXL Academy in Florida.

Same academy that Mets 2021 2nd rounder Canadian Calvin Ziegler pitched at.

In comment 15772331 DanMetroMan said:

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ichael Mayer @mikemayer22 Mets have signed undrafted Canadian right-hander Mathieu Voros. Voros is a high schooler that pitched at the TNXL Academy in Florida. Same academy that Mets 2021 2nd rounder Canadian Calvin Ziegler pitched at.

6'5 225, as expected given the fact he went undrafted, velocity lags behind (as of now) 86-88 as of February

Gervase added to the FCL Mets

with the shortened draft you never know when some may hit.

Baty needs to be called up yesterday.

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with the shortened draft you never know when some may hit. Baty needs to be called up yesterday.

Baty to AAA, to clarify

it but the Mets released Austin Faith, he was an interesting UDFA from 2020

even though it's a minors thread

Michael Mayer
@mikemayer22
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1h
Edwin Díaz ranks among MLB relievers:

1st - 2.2 fWAR
1st - 17.93 K/9
1st - 52.1 K%
1st - 0.92 FIP
1st - 44.9 K-BB%

closer in baseball. Will be the highest closer in baseball history after this season.

Diaz blown it in the 8th, the fact the DJ/PA team delayed/forgot to play Diaz's music and Diaz flat out admitting it threw him off a bit... would have been a LOLMets story. I can't imagine that happens again lol

In comment 15772373 DanMetroMan said:

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closer in baseball. Will be the highest closer in baseball history after this season.

*highest paid

Nice review of the Mets minors by SNY
Do you agree with the assessments ?
Link - ( New Window )

Rivera.

is Joe DeMayo's personal list more than "SNY's". I've known Joe personally for almost 20 years now, we briefly started a blog together. That's not a knock on Joe or his list, I'm just pointing out he's a blogger/fan trying to (successfully might I might add) get into sports media. As for his list, it's as good as any. Nothing I strongly disagree with

AAV ever for a closer is 17.2 million, biggest outlay was 86 million. Diaz should pretty easily eclipse the AAV and likely the outlay as well. 5 for 100 would not shock me at this point.

In comment 15772387 Archer said:

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Nice review of the Mets minors by SNY Do you agree with the assessments ? Link - ( New Window )

That was a very well done top 20. Not much to quibble with IMO. I would put Jett above Allan, but that's just a guessing game.

I like the Morabito comps to Merrifield. Would love a similar player

In comment 15772371 pjcas18 said:

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even though it's a minors thread Michael Mayer @mikemayer22 · 1h Edwin Díaz ranks among MLB relievers: 1st - 2.2 fWAR 1st - 17.93 K/9 1st - 52.1 K% 1st - 0.92 FIP 1st - 44.9 K-BB%

When we traded for him I remember a lot of comments that he basically had to be Mariano (which is obviously an insanely high bar) and this year he has been that good and probably even more dominating. I was pessimistic even through last year but very happy to have been wrong. He not only deserves CY votes but if he keeps it up he may deserve to win.

In comment 15772411 KDavies said:

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In comment 15772387 Archer said: Quote: Nice review of the Mets minors by SNY Do you agree with the assessments ? Link - ( New Window ) That was a very well done top 20. Not much to quibble with IMO. I would put Jett above Allan, but that's just a guessing game. I like the Morabito comps to Merrifield. Would love a similar player

It’s obviously an inexact science but it’ll be fascinating to follow him. Law called him a “gut feel” prospect he really like, Longenhagen didn’t like the pick so that will be “fun” to follow

I have rarely seen a closer this dominant and consistently dialed in as Diaz.

but part of that is recency theory. What made Mariano so legendary wasn't one season, it was his consistency to be that dominant for multiple seasons.

That said, I cringe at the fly-by-night posters who come by and post "now all those people who criticized Diaz or the trade look stupid"

no, I for one don't pretend 2019 didn't happen.

Diaz deserved every bit of criticism he got as did BVW.

Diaz in 2019 was one of the worst closers in the game.

And what was frustrating was it didn't appear to be his stuff, it appeared to be mental which didn't bode well for NY.

As a fan I could not be happier that he seems to have straightened out the issue and is now treating the fans and his teammates to a dominant season. I hope it continues and he shines on the big stage. Mets have seen great regular season performances from bullpen pieces wrecked with mediocre (or worse) post-seasons.

And I hope Diaz is now on track to maintain this level consistently.

But 2019 still happened, and I see no reason to erase it even as we move forward.

In comment 15772418 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 15772411 KDavies said: Quote: In comment 15772387 Archer said: Quote: Nice review of the Mets minors by SNY Do you agree with the assessments ? Link - ( New Window ) That was a very well done top 20. Not much to quibble with IMO. I would put Jett above Allan, but that's just a guessing game. I like the Morabito comps to Merrifield. Would love a similar player It’s obviously an inexact science but it’ll be fascinating to follow him. Law called him a “gut feel” prospect he really like, Longenhagen didn’t like the pick so that will be “fun” to follow

A lot to like there. From a baseball family. Good hit tool, plus power, plus speed. Not worried about the arm. Put him at 2B or CF.

Going to begin his career in CF per Tanous. None of the HS picks have been assigned yet and only 2 total.

I haven’t loved his pinch hitting approach but his Bp utilization has been the best I’ve ever seen from a manager. Even with a thin pen he hasn’t run guys into the ground and we’ve had far less games where going in we knew certain guys were already gassed. If anything it’s been the opposite where we have had a lot of guys really well rested who need to get in certain games (Diaz included at times).

Also agree re Mariano, there were always guys like Gagne who had flash seasons on his level but the consistency with him was the key especially post season. where we go this year is very much on Diaz shoulders.

Also re the trade, the prospect side of the deal certainly looks better now but we are also still counting cano at 20m this year and next against lux tax. That was an obvious risk at the time of the deal and his performance year 1 made it a practical guarantee that we’d end up here (ped burst notwithstanding).

Or not but Gagne was absurd during his run. Truly

I think overall he has done a nice job with the pen. I am not saying this caused Drew Smith's injury but he did have him throw over 30 pitches in consecutive outings earlier in the season and he struggled right after that.

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I think overall he has done a nice job with the pen. I am not saying this caused Drew Smith's injury but he did have him throw over 30 pitches in consecutive outings earlier in the season and he struggled right after that.

In fairness, Smith has had trouble staying healthy his entire career. An underrated part of being a good RP is being able to put up a consistent 50-60 innings for a 4-5 year run. Easier said that done

Schwartz was placed on the injured list yesterday.

Hopefully Parada plays for St Lucie this weekend or next week.

Anything on Fanas who has disappeared?

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Schwartz was placed on the injured list yesterday. Hopefully Parada plays for St Lucie this weekend or next week. Anything on Fanas who has disappeared?

No update on Fanas (pretty sure he’s hurt), Schwartz is a NP for me. Absolutely zero power (113 games .354
Slugging for a 1B in a-ball at soon to be 23?)

So far only Vermillion and Gervase have been rostered and neither is expected to throw much this year

In comment 15772428 DanMetroMan said:

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Going to begin his career in CF per Tanous. None of the HS picks have been assigned yet and only 2 total.

quick 'academy', measurements, instructs, placed, then develop

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I think overall he has done a nice job with the pen. I am not saying this caused Drew Smith's injury but he did have him throw over 30 pitches in consecutive outings earlier in the season and he struggled right after that.

Smith had 3 days between those 30-pitch outings, then 4 more days after the last one. He then had 2 short perfect outings after that. THEN he started giving up HRs

Last year, prices really fell as the deadline approached as teams looked to move guys. Giants got Kris Bryant for very little only 20 minutes before the deadline.

This year it seems to me prices rose as the deadline approached. If the info is correct, the same Cubs team that jettisoned their former MVP turned down Mauricio for Contreras.

Also, getting Vogelbach for Holderman seems like a very good move when you look at what they paid for a 36 year old Darin Ruf. I've seen Ruf a lot and I like him. But Vogelbach is way better imo and 7 years younger and signed for less!

So I think signing Vogel early really paid off.

Yikes.... looks like the DSL might have a COVID issue going on. @mets have been canceled due to COVID and multiple other games are now listed as "suspended" #Mets

In comment 15772482 Snablats said:

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In comment 15772443 five5 said: Quote: I think overall he has done a nice job with the pen. I am not saying this caused Drew Smith's injury but he did have him throw over 30 pitches in consecutive outings earlier in the season and he struggled right after that. Smith had 3 days between those 30-pitch outings, then 4 more days after the last one. He then had 2 short perfect outings after that. THEN he started giving up HRs

Smith will never be reliable until he stops regularly hanging sliders and that's going to be hard to do because the slider is his out pitch. He compounds the problem by losing his release point and walking guys

He and Nogosek have been given many opportunities to prove themselves and they just have not done it. Time to move on

Manny Rodriguez debut as a pitcher didn't go so well, .2 innings 3 hits 2 runs 2 walks 0 k's

In comment 15772498 Vanzetti said:

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In comment 15772482 Snablats said: Quote: In comment 15772443 five5 said: Quote: I think overall he has done a nice job with the pen. I am not saying this caused Drew Smith's injury but he did have him throw over 30 pitches in consecutive outings earlier in the season and he struggled right after that. Smith had 3 days between those 30-pitch outings, then 4 more days after the last one. He then had 2 short perfect outings after that. THEN he started giving up HRs Smith will never be reliable until he stops regularly hanging sliders and that's going to be hard to do because the slider is his out pitch. He compounds the problem by losing his release point and walking guys He and Nogosek have been given many opportunities to prove themselves and they just have not done it. Time to move on

Exactly. They are the last two of Alderson's 10 reliever acquisitions at the 2017 deadline. All 10 failed

has had months of success so not ready to give up on yet. Only 28 and 2 more years of service time.

In comment 15772534 sshin05 said:

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has had months of success so not ready to give up on yet. Only 28 and 2 more years of service time.

Yeah, I agree. He had a 2.40 ERA last year and a 3.51 ERA this year. I don't get the hate on him. Is he an 8th inning guy? Doubtful. But he can still be a decent bullpen arm.

showing by the FCL Mets so far today

Yikes. 4 innings 0 hits 0 walks 8 k's, 2 groundouts

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Daniel Wexler @WexlerRules · Jul 25 Campos leads the organization in BA, OPS, wRC+, slugging, ISO, wOBA, 2nd in OBP. I fully get he's 21 in the DSL but how about a reward promotion? #Mets

Cut to today....

No-hitter broken up... HR... by who else Dyron Campos making his stateside debut #Mets

***2022 draft pick debut*** @PaulGervase1 struck out the first hitter to face him as a professional #Mets

@PaulGervase1 1 perfect 2 k's. Gervase was @mets 12th round pick this year #Mets

In comment 15772419 pjcas18 said:

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I have rarely seen a closer this dominant and consistently dialed in as Diaz. but part of that is recency theory. What made Mariano so legendary wasn't one season, it was his consistency to be that dominant for multiple seasons. That said, I cringe at the fly-by-night posters who come by and post "now all those people who criticized Diaz or the trade look stupid" no, I for one don't pretend 2019 didn't happen. Diaz deserved every bit of criticism he got as did BVW. Diaz in 2019 was one of the worst closers in the game. And what was frustrating was it didn't appear to be his stuff, it appeared to be mental which didn't bode well for NY. As a fan I could not be happier that he seems to have straightened out the issue and is now treating the fans and his teammates to a dominant season. I hope it continues and he shines on the big stage. Mets have seen great regular season performances from bullpen pieces wrecked with mediocre (or worse) post-seasons. And I hope Diaz is now on track to maintain this level consistently. But 2019 still happened, and I see no reason to erase it even as we move forward.

Circling back to Diaz,

It would be unfair and unreasonable to expect what he's doing now is the standard. He will get paid because of this season because that's what happens when guys hit highs like this in walk years, but he's putting up historically high strikeout numbers that I can't expect would continue.

In comment 15772550 DanMetroMan said:

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Quote: Daniel Wexler @WexlerRules · Jul 25 Campos leads the organization in BA, OPS, wRC+, slugging, ISO, wOBA, 2nd in OBP. I fully get he's 21 in the DSL but how about a reward promotion? #Mets Cut to today.... No-hitter broken up... HR... by who else Dyron Campos making his stateside debut #Mets

Dyron Campos FCL debut.....2-3, 2 HR's including... a grand slam to give the FCL Mets a 6-5 lead.

claimed by the Cardinals

EL player of the month for July

@mets 1B/OF Karell Paz has been suspended 60 games for PED’s. He was just promoted to @stluciemets this week #Mets.