My pick is Diggs with the Cowboys. Yes he had a lot of picks last year but I believe he is a liability in coverage and the league is going to torch him this year?
I think E.Elliot and D. Prescott are both way way overrated.
Beckham is definitely a fraud at this point. His legs are shot and he never recovered from that bad ankle injury with the Gmen.
DK Metcalf, we shall see if he can produce without Wilson. He has benefitted from Wilson, a multifaceted running game and Lockett being a big play threat on the other side.
he's just not someone you like, most likely. And that's fine, but I see an authentic guy that happens to rub people the wrong way. That's on you/them, not him.
allowed 1,051 yards against last season, which was the most yardage allowed from any corner in a single season since 2016.
I thought this was surprising so I looked it up. Where are you getting your data from?
Pro football reference has Diggs giving up 907 yards in 2021. That's the highest in 2021, but in 2020 Sean Murphy Bunting gave up 942 and AJ Terrell gave up 936.
In 2019 Kyle Fuller gave up 942 and Isaiah Oliver gave up 908.
allowed 1,051 yards against last season, which was the most yardage allowed from any corner in a single season since 2016.
I thought this was surprising so I looked it up. Where are you getting your data from?
Pro football reference has Diggs giving up 907 yards in 2021. That's the highest in 2021, but in 2020 Sean Murphy Bunting gave up 942 and AJ Terrell gave up 936.
In 2019 Kyle Fuller gave up 942 and Isaiah Oliver gave up 908.
The number he referenced is PFF's. It's the most allowed by a CB using PFF's data since they started (so mid 2000's I believe)
broken throwing hand and came back early from a 2+ month recovery estimate. It was the only losing season of his career, one that wouldn’t have happened without breaking his hand. Definitely overrated, lol.
I remember him donating his paycheck to people who worked in kitchen who were impacted by Hurricane Harvey. I thought to myself, 'Nice gesture. Seems like a good kid.'
I remember him donating his paycheck to people who worked in kitchen who were impacted by Hurricane Harvey. I thought to myself, 'Nice gesture. Seems like a good kid.'
DK Metcalf, we shall see if he can produce without Wilson. He has benefitted from Wilson, a multifaceted running game and Lockett being a big play threat on the other side.
Interesting thought. I can see your point for sure. DKM certainly has the Adonis body and terrific straight-line speed, but I have never liked his hands - more of a body catcher - and don't think anyone will be using him to make a video on precision route running...
allowed 1,051 yards against last season, which was the most yardage allowed from any corner in a single season since 2016.
Here you go.
I thought this was surprising so I looked it up. Where are you getting your data from?
Pro football reference has Diggs giving up 907 yards in 2021. That's the highest in 2021, but in 2020 Sean Murphy Bunting gave up 942 and AJ Terrell gave up 936.
In 2019 Kyle Fuller gave up 942 and Isaiah Oliver gave up 908.
And even the last two years he’s been above average. Save me the crap about money, he’s a good player who gets the consistent yardage most rbs don’t get.
Dak is a game manager? Wtf are you guys watching?? Dallas dominates the league offensively yet zeke and dak are overrated. Ok then.
Again, what are you watching. Zona scores a ton of points and passes the ball all over the field and runs the ball well despite no big names at rb, yet Murray is overrated??? No. Try again. He’s short. Stop there.
OBJ still living rent free in some heads here even when unemployed
And even the last two years he’s been above average. Save me the crap about money, he’s a good player who gets the consistent yardage most rbs don’t get.
Dak is a game manager? Wtf are you guys watching?? Dallas dominates the league offensively yet zeke and dak are overrated. Ok then.
Every year they have the talent and are on their way to the SB. And every year for over 25 years now - they disappoint their fans. Yeah save the “well they’re better than the Giants”. No shit, but we haven’t been good for a decade and we beat probably what was their best team since 95 in 2007. Fuck them.
Again, what are you watching. Zona scores a ton of points and passes the ball all over the field and runs the ball well despite no big names at rb, yet Murray is overrated??? No. Try again. He’s short. Stop there.
Yup. 29 total TDs and 10 INTs isn't as good as all the hype. That's Carson Wentz territory.
Oh, and overrated does not mean "not good" as you said in a later post, LOL. It means something is rated higher than its actual value.
I don’t think there’s such a thing as a fraud, in a game only a tiny percentage of men can play, and for a short period of time.
It’s a tough game, that batters people, and often leaves them with lifelong physical problems. Fraud isn’t the word I’d use to describe an NFL player.
Exactly. I get that some players get too much hype from fans and media but how can anyone say zeke Elliot is a fraud. He’s anything but. Same with dak who quite honestly comes off as one of the most genuine human beings to play the game in ages. And he produces. But he hasn’t won a super bowl so he sucks? Cmon do better than that.
Again, what are you watching. Zona scores a ton of points and passes the ball all over the field and runs the ball well despite no big names at rb, yet Murray is overrated??? No. Try again. He’s short. Stop there.
Yup. 29 total TDs and 10 INTs isn't as good as all the hype. That's Carson Wentz territory.
Oh, and overrated does not mean "not good" as you said in a later post, LOL. It means something is rated higher than its actual value.
Fraud or overrated either moniker is wrong here.
2021 Points For: 449 (26.4/g) 11th of 32
^^^ with a hobbled hopkins or no hopkins most of the year. The immortal Connor at rb.
Murray IS the cardinals offense even with hopkins at 100% and hopkins Is losing his fastball with every passing month.
Murray would be a deified here with the giants. He’s a flat out nightmare to deal with. He’s not the best qb by any means but he’s an advantage for the cards every single game they play. He’s not a fraud. This is dumb.
The biggest joke of an nfl franchise that no one ever talks about is the Chicago bears. I don’t even need to provide examples or proof. It’s right there for any to see. One great team in 50 years. One. No qbs. Literally NONE. But it’s “da bears” —- yea you suck constantly.
The biggest joke of an nfl franchise that no one ever talks about is the Chicago bears. I don’t even need to provide examples or proof. It’s right there for any to see. One great team in 50 years. One. No qbs. Literally NONE. But it’s “da bears” —- yea you suck constantly.
Again, what are you watching. Zona scores a ton of points and passes the ball all over the field and runs the ball well despite no big names at rb, yet Murray is overrated??? No. Try again. He’s short. Stop there.
Yup. 29 total TDs and 10 INTs isn't as good as all the hype. That's Carson Wentz territory.
Oh, and overrated does not mean "not good" as you said in a later post, LOL. It means something is rated higher than its actual value.
Fraud or overrated either moniker is wrong here.
2021 Points For: 449 (26.4/g) 11th of 32
^^^ with a hobbled hopkins or no hopkins most of the year. The immortal Connor at rb.
Murray IS the cardinals offense even with hopkins at 100% and hopkins Is losing his fastball with every passing month.
Murray would be a deified here with the giants. He’s a flat out nightmare to deal with. He’s not the best qb by any means but he’s an advantage for the cards every single game they play. He’s not a fraud. This is dumb.
I specifically said I wouldn't call him a fraud, dipshit. I said he's overrated. I am guessing reading comprehension wasn't your strong suit in high school, huh?
Aaron Rodgers was always like that. He rode his freakin bicycle to practices.
Favre tricked him into autgraphing his own game helmet so he had to practice with it because he hid the others or something for rubbing Favre the wrong way.
Russ Wilson is not in the same conversation as Rodgers also btw; whether you think he's a douche or not. (I actually kind of like him) and think it would be far more interesting drinking a beer with him than a lot of other players. He also got along with the Mannings on their MNF show and was interesting on that.
Dude just led the Bengals-the freaking Bengals-to the Super Bowl in his second season. The man is going to be a force in this league for a long, long time.
Ok at one time or another Mark Samchez Ryan Fitzpatrick, Colt McCoy and Rg3 all appeared in the top 10 in the league for YPA while Tom Brady has ranked 21 st. Enough said on YPA.
doesn’t mean much. But we are talking #1 in a category that signifies downfield passing, which is funny to think a noodle armed QB can achieve.
This board got better when you stopped posting and is now shittier with you back.
We're talking about a stat that does not take into account sacks or anything else, but just the yards.
Burrow is really good at that. I'l give you that. He can throw a football 25 - 27 feet in front of him to one of 2 WR1s the Bengals have or one of the best receiving RB in the NFL. So could about a dozen other QBs.
Fraud as a HC tho.
I think E.Elliot and D. Prescott are both way way overrated.
Beckham is definitely a fraud at this point. His legs are shot and he never recovered from that bad ankle injury with the Gmen.
DK Metcalf, we shall see if he can produce without Wilson. He has benefitted from Wilson, a multifaceted running game and Lockett being a big play threat on the other side.
I agree
I thought this was surprising so I looked it up. Where are you getting your data from?
Pro football reference has Diggs giving up 907 yards in 2021. That's the highest in 2021, but in 2020 Sean Murphy Bunting gave up 942 and AJ Terrell gave up 936.
In 2019 Kyle Fuller gave up 942 and Isaiah Oliver gave up 908.
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allowed 1,051 yards against last season, which was the most yardage allowed from any corner in a single season since 2016.
I thought this was surprising so I looked it up. Where are you getting your data from?
Pro football reference has Diggs giving up 907 yards in 2021. That's the highest in 2021, but in 2020 Sean Murphy Bunting gave up 942 and AJ Terrell gave up 936.
In 2019 Kyle Fuller gave up 942 and Isaiah Oliver gave up 908.
The number he referenced is PFF's. It's the most allowed by a CB using PFF's data since they started (so mid 2000's I believe)
What happens when the Seahawks win 4 games this year?
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Wilson is fake like Rodgers and blamed the performance failure on others (the line, coaches, etc.).
What happens when the Seahawks win 4 games this year?
Only won 7 last year
Uh, yeah...
Uh, yeah...
Gus Fring was a good guy who donated, too.
DK Metcalf, we shall see if he can produce without Wilson. He has benefitted from Wilson, a multifaceted running game and Lockett being a big play threat on the other side.
Interesting thought. I can see your point for sure. DKM certainly has the Adonis body and terrific straight-line speed, but I have never liked his hands - more of a body catcher - and don't think anyone will be using him to make a video on precision route running...
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allowed 1,051 yards against last season, which was the most yardage allowed from any corner in a single season since 2016.
Here you go.
I thought this was surprising so I looked it up. Where are you getting your data from?
Pro football reference has Diggs giving up 907 yards in 2021. That's the highest in 2021, but in 2020 Sean Murphy Bunting gave up 942 and AJ Terrell gave up 936.
In 2019 Kyle Fuller gave up 942 and Isaiah Oliver gave up 908.
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Dak is a game manager? Wtf are you guys watching?? Dallas dominates the league offensively yet zeke and dak are overrated. Ok then.
And lol about russel Wilson too.
Overrated means not good in case you all forgot.
Dak is a game manager? Wtf are you guys watching?? Dallas dominates the league offensively yet zeke and dak are overrated. Ok then.
And lol about russel Wilson too.
Overrated means not good in case you all forgot.
People try too hard, it’s pretty funny.
It’s a tough game, that batters people, and often leaves them with lifelong physical problems. Fraud isn’t the word I’d use to describe an NFL player.
Dallas Cowboys.
Every year they have the talent and are on their way to the SB. And every year for over 25 years now - they disappoint their fans. Yeah save the “well they’re better than the Giants”. No shit, but we haven’t been good for a decade and we beat probably what was their best team since 95 in 2007. Fuck them.
Yup. 29 total TDs and 10 INTs isn't as good as all the hype. That's Carson Wentz territory.
Oh, and overrated does not mean "not good" as you said in a later post, LOL. It means something is rated higher than its actual value.
It’s a tough game, that batters people, and often leaves them with lifelong physical problems. Fraud isn’t the word I’d use to describe an NFL player.
Exactly. I get that some players get too much hype from fans and media but how can anyone say zeke Elliot is a fraud. He’s anything but. Same with dak who quite honestly comes off as one of the most genuine human beings to play the game in ages. And he produces. But he hasn’t won a super bowl so he sucks? Cmon do better than that.
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Again, what are you watching. Zona scores a ton of points and passes the ball all over the field and runs the ball well despite no big names at rb, yet Murray is overrated??? No. Try again. He’s short. Stop there.
Yup. 29 total TDs and 10 INTs isn't as good as all the hype. That's Carson Wentz territory.
Oh, and overrated does not mean "not good" as you said in a later post, LOL. It means something is rated higher than its actual value.
Fraud or overrated either moniker is wrong here.
2021 Points For: 449 (26.4/g) 11th of 32
^^^ with a hobbled hopkins or no hopkins most of the year. The immortal Connor at rb.
Murray IS the cardinals offense even with hopkins at 100% and hopkins Is losing his fastball with every passing month.
Murray would be a deified here with the giants. He’s a flat out nightmare to deal with. He’s not the best qb by any means but he’s an advantage for the cards every single game they play. He’s not a fraud. This is dumb.
I’d take making the playoffs every other year.
The biggest joke of an nfl franchise that no one ever talks about is the Chicago bears. I don’t even need to provide examples or proof. It’s right there for any to see. One great team in 50 years. One. No qbs. Literally NONE. But it’s “da bears” —- yea you suck constantly.
Been through this several times not doing it again
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Been through this several times not doing it again
Don’t recall you ever answering actually. Apologies if missed it.
Why don’t you like Maryland?
Agreed and they have scummy smug fans too
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Again, what are you watching. Zona scores a ton of points and passes the ball all over the field and runs the ball well despite no big names at rb, yet Murray is overrated??? No. Try again. He’s short. Stop there.
Yup. 29 total TDs and 10 INTs isn't as good as all the hype. That's Carson Wentz territory.
Oh, and overrated does not mean "not good" as you said in a later post, LOL. It means something is rated higher than its actual value.
Fraud or overrated either moniker is wrong here.
2021 Points For: 449 (26.4/g) 11th of 32
^^^ with a hobbled hopkins or no hopkins most of the year. The immortal Connor at rb.
Murray IS the cardinals offense even with hopkins at 100% and hopkins Is losing his fastball with every passing month.
Murray would be a deified here with the giants. He’s a flat out nightmare to deal with. He’s not the best qb by any means but he’s an advantage for the cards every single game they play. He’s not a fraud. This is dumb.
I specifically said I wouldn't call him a fraud, dipshit. I said he's overrated. I am guessing reading comprehension wasn't your strong suit in high school, huh?
Aaron Rodgers was always like that. He rode his freakin bicycle to practices.
Favre tricked him into autgraphing his own game helmet so he had to practice with it because he hid the others or something for rubbing Favre the wrong way.
Russ Wilson is not in the same conversation as Rodgers also btw; whether you think he's a douche or not. (I actually kind of like him) and think it would be far more interesting drinking a beer with him than a lot of other players. He also got along with the Mannings on their MNF show and was interesting on that.
How does a "noodle arm over hyped game manager" lead the league in YPA?
BTW, Chase and Higgins were at the bottom of the league is separation...
Giant fan intelligence has been impaired due to all these losing seasons.
This board got better when you stopped posting and is now shittier with you back.
This board got better when you stopped posting and is now shittier with you back.
We're talking about a stat that does not take into account sacks or anything else, but just the yards.
Burrow is really good at that. I'l give you that. He can throw a football 25 - 27 feet in front of him to one of 2 WR1s the Bengals have or one of the best receiving RB in the NFL. So could about a dozen other QBs.