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NFT: New York Yankees @ St. Louis Cardinals - Game 1 - 8:15p

arcarsenal : 8/5/2022 5:19 pm


Nestor night in St. Louis. Yanks have been scuffling a bit and could really use a strong series this weekend.

Take 2 of 3 and I'm good with that.
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12-16 in their last 28 games.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/5/2022 11:40 pm : link
They're slowly but surely falling apart.
Base running was also a train wreck.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/5/2022 11:43 pm : link
Cards score 2 on 2 out double… Yanks don’t. Yanks have TWO terrible basepath outs.

Walks by pitchers killing damn near every time.

I’m not going to go crazy, but they don’t look like an elite team right now.
Hicks  
NJLCO : 8/5/2022 11:54 pm : link
All those Hicks fans from earlier this week can’t wait for him to carry us. Still hopeful.
RE: Hicks  
Stu11 : 8/6/2022 12:16 am : link
In comment 15773060 NJLCO said:
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All those Hicks fans from earlier this week can’t wait for him to carry us. Still hopeful.

Yeah they'll have to keep waiting. I'm not given to hyperbole but there can't be too many guys in baseball with a worse approach and more warped view of themselves. We're a week into August and he has all of 6 hrs yet he's still trying to pull every pitch and hit everything 480 feet when there's 8 friggen guys on the right side of the diamond. We need Mr Miagi to come in and do his danielsan all valley karate rub his hands together shit on Bader's foot pronto.
Well, we no longer have the best winning percentage in  
Jim in Hoboken : 8/6/2022 8:08 am : link
baseball, at this rate Houston will overtake us in AL also.

Certainly no time to panic but maybe not everything this team does is perfect. Maybe the resident experts can tell us why we should still expect a parade down the canyon of heroes.

Coming off this historic start, I don’t want any excuses if we finish with a whimper.

Hicks fucking sucks and should not see the light of day. I’d call up Peraza to replace the punchless IKF.
Hicks and IKF are terrible.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/6/2022 8:38 am : link
Both have to go after this season.
German vs Monty tonight  
The_Boss : 8/6/2022 8:49 am : link
Losing to Monty tonight with a guy most NYY fans don’t like/trust would be a bad look for Cashman.
RE: German vs Monty tonight  
Essex : 8/6/2022 8:57 am : link
In comment 15773105 The_Boss said:
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Losing to Monty tonight with a guy most NYY fans don’t like/trust would be a bad look for Cashman.

The only thing I care about is October. Not interested in good or bad looks. With that said, we need to protect our lead, even as unlikely as it would be to get caught, you wouldn’t want this to get too much lower and have to feel the Rays or Jays making a run at it.
IKF is what he is. I’m not particularly disappointed with him,  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/6/2022 8:59 am : link
although the defense hasn’t been as mistake free as I hoped. There’s a replacement in AAA, but I struggle to recall Cashman bringing up a rookie to play full time at this point of the season on any good Yankees teams.

Outside of a 7 game stretch, Hicks has been absolutely awful. He’s been “They need to stop playing him altogether” bad. Hicks has just 20 XBHs the past 2 seasons in over 450 plate appearances. To give you an idea of how awful that is, IKF has 16 XBHs just this season despite having zero HRs or triples. The problem though is without Stanton or Bader combined with Cashman’s unwillingness to play Florial, the only other option is playing Aaron Judge in CF and Carp in RF everyday. My goodness… THERE’S STILL THREE YEARS LEFT ON HICKS’ CONTRACT!!!!!
Our offense is really just Judge, and when Rizzo/Stanton get hot, and  
Jim in Hoboken : 8/6/2022 9:14 am : link
lately DJ. That's it. We can't count on Judge to hit 2 HR's a game in the playoffs, something needs to be done to inject some life into the lineup. I swear half the lineup is just up there guessing and putting up totally non-competitive AB's.

Hicks needs to sit, maybe we have some podiatrists on here who can work on Bader so he can return ASAP. IKF should be relegated to the bench. Torres should be told he's going to be Starlin Castro'ed next if he doesn't get his head out of his ass. Benintendi is looking like a prepubescent Gallo right now but it's very early. God willing Donaldson goes on a run this season.

There have been numerous examples of young players, not necessarily prospects, coming up in the past and injecting some juice to the season. Peraza needs to be that guy.
Just a bad loss  
Carson53 : 8/6/2022 9:46 am : link
all the way around, they wasted a few opportunities earlier in the game (especially Torres striking out twice) with men on base...
then Holmes blowing the lead late. He needs to get it together, his confidence must be shaken at this point a bit.
If Peraza comes up  
Carson53 : 8/6/2022 9:48 am : link
it will be in September, with a few others as well.
RE: Our offense is really just Judge, and when Rizzo/Stanton get hot, and  
GiantGrit : 8/6/2022 11:03 am : link
In comment 15773126 Jim in Hoboken said:
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lately DJ. That's it. We can't count on Judge to hit 2 HR's a game in the playoffs, something needs to be done to inject some life into the lineup. I swear half the lineup is just up there guessing and putting up totally non-competitive AB's.

Hicks needs to sit, maybe we have some podiatrists on here who can work on Bader so he can return ASAP. IKF should be relegated to the bench. Torres should be told he's going to be Starlin Castro'ed next if he doesn't get his head out of his ass. Benintendi is looking like a prepubescent Gallo right now but it's very early. God willing Donaldson goes on a run this season.

There have been numerous examples of young players, not necessarily prospects, coming up in the past and injecting some juice to the season. Peraza needs to be that guy.


Some fans LOVE Torres. I've been ready to move on. He's too high and low of a player. At 23 maybe he'll grow out of the boneheaded mistakes, I don't see it happening. Would have been ok trading him for Pablo Lopez if its true he was asked for.

With Peraza and Volpe playing very well I actually think he's gone this offseason. Coulda sold high at the deadline lets see how he finishes the season.
RE: Our offense is really just Judge, and when Rizzo/Stanton get hot, and  
GruningsOnTheHill : 8/6/2022 11:19 am : link
In comment 15773126 Jim in Hoboken said:
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lately DJ. That's it.

Carp says hello.
RE: If Peraza comes up  
section125 : 8/6/2022 1:37 pm : link
In comment 15773167 Carson53 said:
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it will be in September, with a few others as well.


No, teams will be limited to 28 players now, IIRC. No more 40 man rosters in September.
RE: Just a bad loss  
Stu11 : 8/6/2022 1:55 pm : link
In comment 15773163 Carson53 said:
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then Holmes blowing the lead late. He needs to get it together, his confidence must be shaken at this point a bit.

Shame is for the 4 batters he looked like the old Holmes. He overpowered their best hitters. Losing O'Neil at 1-2 was the killer. O'Neil looked overmatched and then got bailed out with the walk. St. Louis scored all their runs on 2 out hits where they simply went with the pitch and didn't try and do too much. We could take a lesson.
Who was going to pitch the 9th IF  
xman : 8/6/2022 4:12 pm : link
Holmes had held the lead?
RE: Who was going to pitch the 9th IF  
section125 : 8/6/2022 4:56 pm : link
In comment 15773350 xman said:
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Holmes had held the lead?


Peralta was warming up...
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BleedBlue : 8/6/2022 5:07 pm : link
We are looking alot like last years shithole team
Promising  
Professor Falken : 8/6/2022 5:46 pm : link
Eli Fishman
@elijfishman
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4h
Yankees first round pick Spencer Jones went 3-for-4 with his first professional home run and two RBI's today in his second career game.
Peralta was the potential closer last night  
xman : 8/6/2022 8:59 pm : link
if Holmes didn't shite the bed. That is frightening.
Gleyber Torres  
GruningsOnTheHill : 8/6/2022 9:29 pm : link
the Gary Sanchez of second-basemen
Jordan Montgomery 2 hits the Yankees?  
GFAN52 : 8/6/2022 9:36 pm : link
The Yankee bats have been in deep sleep for 4 weeks now.
As ugly an offensive performance as I’ve seen in a while  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/6/2022 10:24 pm : link
and this is a team that was no hit fairly recently.

Torres looks 111111000000000% lost at the plate.

There were 3 major league level hitters in the lineup tonight.
God what a 180 this team has taken  
jgambrosio : 8/6/2022 10:26 pm : link
Yea some guys were playing over their heads in the first half but never expected this type of regression. What a horrid stretch for the hitters and even the bullpen
Brutal to watch  
terz22 : 8/6/2022 10:26 pm : link
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How was Bader’s hitting and defense tonight?  
HomerJones45 : 8/6/2022 10:29 pm : link
While our former pitcher two hit and shut out the Yankees? Oh wait . . .

Cashman must have photos of the Steinbrenner family. 12 years and counting.
Freeeeeeeee Falllliinnnnnng.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/6/2022 10:46 pm : link
Definitely in a bit of a free-fall this past month or so. Yikes. Entire team is in a daze. I think this team has reached it's peak with Judge as the face of the franchise. If they give him anything close to a decade long contract; they are nuts.
Tough stretch  
Stu11 : 8/6/2022 11:30 pm : link
Some key injuries on offenses, some guys on major funks. The pen has had its difficulties. However this is baseball. They play every day for 6 months. Unless you're the '98 Yanks or '01 Mariners you're gonna have shit periods and slumps. Nobody plays .750 ball for 6 months. The new guys in the pen have looked sharp. Hopefully we get Stanton and Rizzo back soon and the starters start giving us more length. Montas hasn't thrown a pitch for us yet. We'll be fine. It was always gonna be about October any way no matter how we were doing right now.
Hey.  
Dave in Hoboken : 12:19 am : link
At least we still have Aaron Hicks!
2 Hits....  
rnargi : 7:48 am : link
...hahahahaha! This team is going nowhere. Enjoy your one and done playoff series with this awfully constructed team, designed to win big against shit teams in the regular seaso . Butts in seats against the scrubs. Dazzle the lookyloos with an array of HR power when it doesn't matter. Go team.
RE: Hey.  
terz22 : 8:00 am : link
In comment 15773667 Dave in Hoboken said:
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At least we still have Aaron Hicks!


They have to move on from this guy. Still can believe this guy is signed on this team till 2025. Who thought that was a good idea?
Well German has looked  
section125 : 9:45 am : link
good the last two starts, at least....

Monty with huge revenge...
RE: Tough stretch  
arcarsenal : 9:59 am : link
In comment 15773657 Stu11 said:
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Some key injuries on offenses, some guys on major funks. The pen has had its difficulties. However this is baseball. They play every day for 6 months. Unless you're the '98 Yanks or '01 Mariners you're gonna have shit periods and slumps. Nobody plays .750 ball for 6 months. The new guys in the pen have looked sharp. Hopefully we get Stanton and Rizzo back soon and the starters start giving us more length. Montas hasn't thrown a pitch for us yet. We'll be fine. It was always gonna be about October any way no matter how we were doing right now.


Thank you for some perspective in a sea of frustration-colored irrationality.

Naturally, there's going to be a big to-do about Monty shutting the Yankees out yesterday, but trading him was even more validated in my eyes after yesterday.

He struck out one hitter. He nibbled all game long. Gleyber bailed him out of a potentially disastrous first inning (Torres has been awful this series, BTW) - and labored through 5 innings. His stuff just will not play in October. He's a 4 inning pitcher without a putaway pitch.

Beyond that, the lineup the Yanks put out there yesterday was horrendous. We basically had 4 auto-outs in the bottom half.

Rizzo is probably going to be out another day today. Stanton is still out. Hicks literally does not have one hit in his last 32 AB's - which is almost harder to do than luck into one. Higashioka is a black hole. Torres has been pretty bad recently.

Peraza looks like a service time thing at this point, so I think we'll see him, but not for another couple weeks.

Have to salvage one today. Montas is going to be limited to around 70 pitches.

I think we're going to see Schmidt back up once he's stretched and a move to a 6-man rotation of Cole, Montas, Cortes, Taillon, German, Schmidt until Severino returns.
Just some weak sauce  
Carson53 : 10:00 am : link
from this team right now, hard to watch. Lets see if they can at least salvage a game, with Montas going in finale.
RE: RE: Tough stretch  
Carson53 : 10:05 am : link
In comment 15773764 arcarsenal said:
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Some key injuries on offenses, some guys on major funks. The pen has had its difficulties. However this is baseball. They play every day for 6 months. Unless you're the '98 Yanks or '01 Mariners you're gonna have shit periods and slumps. Nobody plays .750 ball for 6 months. The new guys in the pen have looked sharp. Hopefully we get Stanton and Rizzo back soon and the starters start giving us more length. Montas hasn't thrown a pitch for us yet. We'll be fine. It was always gonna be about October any way no matter how we were doing right now.



Thank you for some perspective in a sea of frustration-colored irrationality.

Naturally, there's going to be a big to-do about Monty shutting the Yankees out yesterday, but trading him was even more validated in my eyes after yesterday.

He struck out one hitter. He nibbled all game long. Gleyber bailed him out of a potentially disastrous first inning (Torres has been awful this series, BTW) - and labored through 5 innings. His stuff just will not play in October. He's a 4 inning pitcher without a putaway pitch.

Beyond that, the lineup the Yanks put out there yesterday was horrendous. We basically had 4 auto-outs in the bottom half.

Rizzo is probably going to be out another day today. Stanton is still out. Hicks literally does not have one hit in his last 32 AB's - which is almost harder to do than luck into one. Higashioka is a black hole. Torres has been pretty bad recently.

Peraza looks like a service time thing at this point, so I think we'll see him, but not for another couple weeks.

Have to salvage one today. Montas is going to be limited to around 70 pitches.

I think we're going to see Schmidt back up once he's stretched and a move to a 6-man rotation of Cole, Montas, Cortes, Taillon, German, Schmidt until Severino returns.
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Monty labored through five innings, the Yanks had two hits?
The only way he labored, was his cramps in the heat...
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arcarsenal : 10:09 am : link
Monty threw 83 pitches and generated just 6 swings and misses against a lineup that featured a bottom 4 of Aaron Hicks, IKF, Tim Locastro and Kyle Hiagshioka.

He struck out one batter.

That stuff does not play against postseason lineups in October.
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Carson53 : 10:20 am : link
In comment 15773774 arcarsenal said:
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Monty threw 83 pitches and generated just 6 swings and misses against a lineup that featured a bottom 4 of Aaron Hicks, IKF, Tim Locastro and Kyle Hiagshioka.

He struck out one batter.

That stuff does not play against postseason lineups in October.
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That may or may not be true, to say he labored last night
is absurd, he always pitches to contact, that's who he is.
I would have liked the trade more if Bader was actually healthy, but he is not, that part doesn't make sense to me.
We have to continue to watch people like Hicks 'perform'.
Judge had 4 meatballs to mash on that 9th inning AB, when he's  
Jim in Hoboken : 10:23 am : link
not on our offense is putrid.

Torres has no business, none, batting 4th, even with all the people injured. If Peraza proves semi-ready later this year, Torres should be traded this offseason and DJ can man 2B until Volpe is ready. Like someone said, Torre is lesser Sanchez 2.0. Look how we stayed with Sanchez all those years, made every excuse for him, now see how good this team looks this year with someone else behind the plate.

Hicks shouldn't see the field at all. What a disaster of a contract. Glad we haven't called Gardy back from his bingo games, but it remains to be seen how the Monty trade works out.

I'm glad Boone continues to feel the need to rest people and give games away down the stretch.
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arcarsenal : 10:26 am : link
In comment 15773786 Carson53 said:
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In comment 15773774 arcarsenal said:


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Monty threw 83 pitches and generated just 6 swings and misses against a lineup that featured a bottom 4 of Aaron Hicks, IKF, Tim Locastro and Kyle Hiagshioka.

He struck out one batter.

That stuff does not play against postseason lineups in October.

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That may or may not be true, to say he labored last night
is absurd, he always pitches to contact, that's who he is.
I would have liked the trade more if Bader was actually healthy, but he is not, that part doesn't make sense to me.
We have to continue to watch people like Hicks 'perform'.


Absurd how? It was 100 degrees and Mike Maddux literally wouldn't take his eyes off him in the 5th inning because they were nervous about leaving him in there.

Did you watch the game?
One more thing...  
Carson53 : 10:28 am : link
what the hell was Boone doing pinch-hitting with Benny late in the game...Just to clarify, Boone started Locastro presumably
because they had a lefty on the mound. When he sent Benny up to pinch hit, there was still a lefty on the mound...
Somehow he thought Benny was a better option, even though
he hasn't lefties well all year, and also hasn't done shit yet for the Yanks...That's our Booney for 'ya.
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Carson53 : 10:29 am : link
In comment 15773797 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 15773786 Carson53 said:


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In comment 15773774 arcarsenal said:


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Monty threw 83 pitches and generated just 6 swings and misses against a lineup that featured a bottom 4 of Aaron Hicks, IKF, Tim Locastro and Kyle Hiagshioka.

He struck out one batter.

That stuff does not play against postseason lineups in October.

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That may or may not be true, to say he labored last night
is absurd, he always pitches to contact, that's who he is.
I would have liked the trade more if Bader was actually healthy, but he is not, that part doesn't make sense to me.
We have to continue to watch people like Hicks 'perform'.



Absurd how? It was 100 degrees and Mike Maddux literally wouldn't take his eyes off him in the 5th inning because they were nervous about leaving him in there.

Did you watch the game?
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Did you?
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arcarsenal : 10:34 am : link
Sure did. It was a furnace on the field. Mike Maddux didn't take his eyes off Montgomery for one second the entire 5th inning because he was nervous.

I guess that always happens when pitchers are coasting...
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Carson53 : 10:43 am : link
In comment 15773805 arcarsenal said:
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Sure did. It was a furnace on the field. Mike Maddux didn't take his eyes off Montgomery for one second the entire 5th inning because he was nervous.

I guess that always happens when pitchers are coasting...
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Sure you're right...I guess he didn't cruise the first four innings then huh? He allowed two hits, if not for the cramping in the 5th, could have given them one more too.
Did you see a lot of hard contact off him, I didn't.
The way they swung the bat, couldn't have broken a chandelier in a hotel lobby. LOL.
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arcarsenal : 10:47 am : link
He cruised in the 1st inning? He needed over 20 pitches to get through it. He was all over the place. Torres bailed him out with a DP ball.
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Carson53 : 10:54 am : link
In comment 15773822 arcarsenal said:
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He cruised in the 1st inning? He needed over 20 pitches to get through it. He was all over the place. Torres bailed him out with a DP ball.
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German needed 32 pitches to get thru 1st, your point is?
He made it thru 5.
We have never ever seen pitchers struggle in the 1st inning.
I don't know, also three days prior, Monty was on the other team, now he is pitching against them. Just might have something to do with it, quit while you're behind there arc.
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arcarsenal : 10:57 am : link
In comment 15773826 Carson53 said:
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In comment 15773822 arcarsenal said:


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He cruised in the 1st inning? He needed over 20 pitches to get through it. He was all over the place. Torres bailed him out with a DP ball.

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German needed 32 pitches to get thru 1st, your point is?
He made it thru 5.
We have never ever seen pitchers struggle in the 1st inning.
I don't know, also three days prior, Monty was on the other team, now he is pitching against them. Just might have something to do with it, quit while you're behind there arc.


Who said anything about German and why is that relevant? You haven't made one single salient point here. You're just... typing.

First, you said he cruised through the first 4 innings. Then I pointed out that he had a rough first and your response is "we have never ever seen pitchers struggle in the 1st inning"

And what does him being on the team a few days ago have to do with anything?

I guess when you have no actual argument, you just declare yourself the winner of the argument. Lol.

Enjoy your Sunday.
With the way their pen is performing lately  
Matt M. : 2:13 pm : link
how can they defend sending Marinaccio down over someone else to clear a roster spot? I know he has options, but he's also been amazing and there are guys who have been less than stellar. Fuck options. We need results. Just DFA a guy like Luetge.
3 pitches in and the umpiring is already a disaster.  
DJM perseveres and hits a double.
Trevino gets horribly umped  
NYerInMA : 2:49 pm : link
Shame the automatic pitch calls aren't coming until 2024. They need them yesterday.
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