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NFT: New York Yankees @ St. Louis Cardinals - Game 1 - 8:15p

arcarsenal : 8/5/2022 5:19 pm


Nestor night in St. Louis. Yanks have been scuffling a bit and could really use a strong series this weekend.

Take 2 of 3 and I'm good with that.
I’m shocked that they actually did what I thought  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/5/2022 5:31 pm : link
they should do… batting Benintendi 9th ahead of DJM and Judge is better than him being in the middle of the lineup.

Hopefully Nasty Nes gives them a good start tonight.
Not game related but it really sounds like they had a deadline deal  
Strahan91 : 8/5/2022 5:50 pm : link
lined up with the Marlins and had the rug pulled out from under them. Getting Pablo for Torres and a couple of mid-level prospects would have made this deadline such a massive W. We really need Montas to stay healthy and pitch well with the rest of the non-Nestor SP's struggling.
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arcarsenal : 8/5/2022 5:55 pm : link
Yep, it's a pretty big bummer that the potential Lopez deal didn't get done. I do think there's a small, important distinction to make there though... because I feel I see a lot of folks who believe the Monty/Bader deal was made *only* as a "part 1 of 2" type thing with the rumored Lopez deal being the other half.

I think Cashman was comfortable making the Monty deal on its own, but obviously really wanted to add another arm too and was trying to do so.

Hopefully we're just seeing a dead-arm, dog days of summer effect on the rotation right now - we really need better performances from the SP's.

Starts tonight with Nasty Nestor. Oddly enough, I probably feel most comfortable with him on the mound of anyone we have at this point (without having seen Montas in pinstripes yet)
From reports I've read there is no reason to believe the Yanks  
shyster : 8/5/2022 6:01 pm : link
put Torres on the table for Lopez. More like the Marlins asked and Yanks were not willing.

Giving up Torres would be a risky move. DJL is 34 years old. He's having a bounce back year, which is nice, but time marches on.
I don’t understand that rumor  
BigBlueShock : 8/5/2022 6:02 pm : link
Why would the Marlins want Torres? They have Jazz Chisholm as their 2nd baseman of the future. And Torres is going to start making some coin. That’s not the Marlins MO. If I had to guess, the deal fell apart because the the Marlins wanted Volpe or Peraza and the Yankees were pushing for Torres in the deal
Oh yeah, 100%. Cashman's been around the block a long time.  
Strahan91 : 8/5/2022 6:03 pm : link
There is no chance he prematurely jumped on the Cardinals deal thinking he had another deal lined up. It sounds like getting Lopez or another frontline SP was about further upgrading, not replacing Monty which was because they got Montas. This was from Ken Rosenthal earlier
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The Bader-Montgomery talks grew out of the Yankees telling teams, “If we import another starter, we would have a starter available.” Yet the Yankees kept trying to acquire another starter even after adding Montas, sources said, pursuing deals for the Marlins’ Pablo López, Giants’ Carlos Rodón and Tigers’ Tarik Skubal. So obviously, they were not entirely comfortable with their rotation.

RE: I don’t understand that rumor  
shyster : 8/5/2022 6:06 pm : link
In comment 15772714 BigBlueShock said:
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Why would the Marlins want Torres? They have Jazz Chisholm as their 2nd baseman of the future. And Torres is going to start making some coin. That’s not the Marlins MO. If I had to guess, the deal fell apart because the the Marlins wanted Volpe or Peraza and the Yankees were pushing for Torres in the deal


I don't think Yanks wanted to give any of those three for Lopez.

Not saying Yanks wouldn't put Torres in the right deal but I've seen no good report that they offered him for Lopez.
RE: I don’t understand that rumor  
Strahan91 : 8/5/2022 6:07 pm : link
In comment 15772714 BigBlueShock said:
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Why would the Marlins want Torres? They have Jazz Chisholm as their 2nd baseman of the future. And Torres is going to start making some coin. That’s not the Marlins MO. If I had to guess, the deal fell apart because the the Marlins wanted Volpe or Peraza and the Yankees were pushing for Torres in the deal

That's possible but I could see the Marlins being interested in Gleyber. They desperately need bats and Torres and Lopez have the same amount of team control left. Jazz can also play SS and I think Kim Ng is on the hot seat so trading Lopez for prospects wouldn't really help her case in the short term.
Shyster - reports have said that the two teams were close  
Strahan91 : 8/5/2022 6:17 pm : link
on a deal. I just can't see how that could've been the case if the Yankees weren't including Volpe, Peraza or Torres unless it was Jasson, Pereira ++. My hunch though is that the Yankees value Jasson more than a lot of other teams.
I don't buy the idea that Cash got hoodwinked.  
Mike from SI : 8/5/2022 6:26 pm : link
He's not an idiot. As someone else said, he liked the Monty-Bader deal independently (which is obviously why he did it).

I saw a poster above say he liked Tendi batting 9th. I don't; I like high average guys hitting with runners on base. But if it works I'm all for it.
RE: I don't buy the idea that Cash got hoodwinked.  
section125 : 8/5/2022 6:32 pm : link
In comment 15772725 Mike from SI said:
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He's not an idiot. As someone else said, he liked the Monty-Bader deal independently (which is obviously why he did it).

I saw a poster above say he liked Tendi batting 9th. I don't; I like high average guys hitting with runners on base. But if it works I'm all for it.


He has not hit well in his week here. I think they dropped him to calm him and then get DJ and Judge behind him so he sees better pitches.
RE: Shyster - reports have said that the two teams were close  
shyster : 8/5/2022 7:02 pm : link
In comment 15772722 Strahan91 said:
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on a deal. I just can't see how that could've been the case if the Yankees weren't including Volpe, Peraza or Torres unless it was Jasson, Pereira ++. My hunch though is that the Yankees value Jasson more than a lot of other teams.


Perhaps. Maybe it was the additional pieces (beyond Torres) that killed the deal.

Looking back, Lopez was a piece of a 4-player package sent by the Mariners to the Marlins at the 2017 deadline for the one and only David Phelps. Phelps pitched 8 innings for Seattle before his elbow blew up.

And that Seattle team was going nowhere that year, anyway.
Lineup change:  
Ron from Ninerland : 8/5/2022 8:08 pm : link
Carp now DH'ing. Judge moves to right, Hicks in at CF and batting 9th

D. LeMahieu1B 103-356 42 11 4 .289
A. JudgeRF 115-386 93 43 10 .298
M. CarpenterDH 37-115 36 15 0 .322
G. Torres2B 86-339 46 16 5 .254
J. Donaldson3B 67-305 38 10 2 .220
A. BenintendiLF 112-367 41 3 6 .305
I. Kiner-FalefaSS 90-327 32 0 15 .275
J. TrevinoC 54-204 34 10 2 .265
A. HicksCF 62-278 31 6 9 .223


Rizzo out?  
section125 : 8/5/2022 8:11 pm : link
Hmm
lower back tightness…  
Mike in St. Louis : 8/5/2022 8:16 pm : link
for Rizzo
FWIW, Ump called a strike  
section125 : 8/5/2022 8:21 pm : link
on Judge that he had just called 2 balls on to DJ.
Wow, what a beautiful  
section125 : 8/5/2022 8:25 pm : link
field.
What an awful AB  
Mike from SI : 8/5/2022 8:26 pm : link
by Gleyber. Put the bat on the ball, my dude.
Terrible AB by Gleyber  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/5/2022 8:26 pm : link
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RE: Terrible AB by Gleyber  
Mike from SI : 8/5/2022 8:27 pm : link
In comment 15772911 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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JD bailed him out!
One issue with the Yankees is lack of speed.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/5/2022 8:28 pm : link
How does Carp not score on that???
RE: What an awful AB  
NJLCO : 8/5/2022 8:30 pm : link
In comment 15772910 Mike from SI said:
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by Gleyber. Put the bat on the ball, my dude.

0 for 19. Not even close to any of those pitches
RE: One issue with the Yankees is lack of speed.  
section125 : 8/5/2022 8:31 pm : link
In comment 15772915 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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How does Carp not score on that???


1. Carpenter is not fast
2. That was a rocket ship that caromed of the base of the wall right to RF

Yankees have some slow players, but they are not a slow team.
RE: RE: What an awful AB  
section125 : 8/5/2022 8:32 pm : link
In comment 15772917 NJLCO said:
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In comment 15772910 Mike from SI said:


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by Gleyber. Put the bat on the ball, my dude.


0 for 19. Not even close to any of those pitches


His usual swing at one in his eyes...he simply cannot lay off the shoulder high FB.
RE: One issue with the Yankees is lack of speed.  
GruningsOnTheHill : 8/5/2022 8:34 pm : link
In comment 15772915 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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How does Carp not score on that???

+1
I figured he'd score easily. Hope Benintendi gets back on track soon.
On vacation  
mattnyg05 : 8/5/2022 8:37 pm : link
Not in the Yankees home geo zone or whatever it is… any ways to watch?

If not I just follow the score. It is frustrating though.
Leaving a village on base these first 2 frames  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/5/2022 8:48 pm : link
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Nice AB DJ.  
section125 : 8/5/2022 8:49 pm : link
Guy can't find the plate and you swing at two balls well of the plate and into a weak DP....
Walks kill you  
section125 : 8/5/2022 9:02 pm : link
every time, unless the Yanks are at bat....1-1
5000 year old Yadier Molina  
Greg from LI : 8/5/2022 9:03 pm : link
Come on
RE: Nice AB DJ.  
GFAN52 : 8/5/2022 9:09 pm : link
In comment 15772930 section125 said:
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Guy can't find the plate and you swing at two balls well of the plate and into a weak DP....


The last few weeks the Yankees have left a large number of LOBs. Won't win many games that way.
Strike one to Gleyber was an awful call  
Greg from LI : 8/5/2022 9:14 pm : link
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I figured Gleyber would find a way to hit into a triple play  
Mike from SI : 8/5/2022 9:14 pm : link
but I guess I should not have anticipated him making any contact.
Hey Gleyber I have a request:  
Stu11 : 8/5/2022 9:15 pm : link
Stop sucking please?
Hey maybe that hot streak out of Donaldson that we've been  
Stu11 : 8/5/2022 9:18 pm : link
Waiting 4 months for is upon us?
RE: On vacation  
Mike from SI : 8/5/2022 9:18 pm : link
In comment 15772925 mattnyg05 said:
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Not in the Yankees home geo zone or whatever it is… any ways to watch?

If not I just follow the score. It is frustrating though.


The game is on Amazon Prime but I'm not sure if you have to be in market or not.
Need Benintendi to start hitting  
GFAN52 : 8/5/2022 9:21 pm : link
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Peraza  
Professor Falken : 8/5/2022 9:22 pm : link
with his 15th home run of the year for Scranton.
Peraza - ( New Window )
Great...  
GruningsOnTheHill : 8/5/2022 10:13 pm : link
now Hicks leads off.

So they’ve decided to return to last year’s base running  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/5/2022 10:13 pm : link
misadventures??
Ummm what the fuck in god's name is going on on the basepaths lately?  
Stu11 : 8/5/2022 10:14 pm : link
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RE: Peraza  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/5/2022 10:16 pm : link
In comment 15772955 Professor Falken said:
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with his 15th home run of the year for Scranton. Peraza - ( New Window )


Love that.
Boone  
BleedBlue : 8/5/2022 10:23 pm : link
Sucks...why take out cortes out of game?
Fuck  
BleedBlue : 8/5/2022 10:23 pm : link
Boones a clown
RE: Boone  
GFAN52 : 8/5/2022 10:29 pm : link
In comment 15772990 BleedBlue said:
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Sucks...why take out cortes out of game?


Especially with the shaky bullpen.
I'm ok with pulling  
section125 : 8/5/2022 10:30 pm : link
Cortes. He was really struggling .

Agree with Flats here on just blow the guy away. Sometimes the Yankees catchers get cute. If the batter cannot catch up to the FB, don't speed up the bat with a change.

Just like 2 change ups to get behind 2-0 to O'Neill. Got behind and gives up the hit.
Bye bye lead  
GFAN52 : 8/5/2022 10:32 pm : link
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RE: Bye bye lead  
section125 : 8/5/2022 10:34 pm : link
In comment 15773004 GFAN52 said:
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Huh?
RE: I'm ok with pulling  
BleedBlue : 8/5/2022 10:36 pm : link
In comment 15772998 section125 said:
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Cortes. He was really struggling .

Agree with Flats here on just blow the guy away. Sometimes the Yankees catchers get cute. If the batter cannot catch up to the FB, don't speed up the bat with a change.

Just like 2 change ups to get behind 2-0 to O'Neill. Got behind and gives up the hit.


If one hit is struggling then oh boy id take alot more struggle from our staff
Bah  
Greg from LI : 8/5/2022 10:45 pm : link
Thought that one was gone
RE: RE: I'm ok with pulling  
section125 : 8/5/2022 10:48 pm : link
In comment 15773010 BleedBlue said:
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Cortes. He was really struggling .

Agree with Flats here on just blow the guy away. Sometimes the Yankees catchers get cute. If the batter cannot catch up to the FB, don't speed up the bat with a change.

Just like 2 change ups to get behind 2-0 to O'Neill. Got behind and gives up the hit.



If one hit is struggling then oh boy id take alot more struggle from our staff


He was all over the place. High pitch count, but he did have the 5 pitch 4th(?). 83 pitches 48 strikes and 35 balls with 4 BBs.
I am sure they are protecting the arm too.
How the hell was that  
section125 : 8/5/2022 10:49 pm : link
ball 4 to Molina? That was well inside the box.
Hopefully that gets Benintendi going  
Strahan91 : 8/5/2022 11:00 pm : link
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RE: Hopefully that gets Benintendi going  
section125 : 8/5/2022 11:01 pm : link
In comment 15773029 Strahan91 said:
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+1
Pitch around  
section125 : 8/5/2022 11:02 pm : link
IKF to get to Hicks
I'm gonna speak it into existence  
GiantGrit : 8/5/2022 11:08 pm : link
....I think Donaldson's bat is really waking up.
Holmes is a disaster right now.  
Strahan91 : 8/5/2022 11:20 pm : link
Jesus.
Geezus  
section125 : 8/5/2022 11:20 pm : link
wtf is going on...
Paul DeJong?  
Mike in St. Louis : 8/5/2022 11:21 pm : link
what the hell has happened to Holmes?
Clay Holmes  
NYerInMA : 8/5/2022 11:21 pm : link
what a turd.
Time to find another new closer.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/5/2022 11:22 pm : link
That'll be #3 on the year. Holmes sucks.
What Lets Us Down?  
Percy : 8/5/2022 11:23 pm : link
Pitching. It's usually pitching. Of course that's true for everybody else, too.
RE: What Lets Us Down?  
Strahan91 : 8/5/2022 11:25 pm : link
In comment 15773042 Percy said:
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Pitching. It's usually pitching. Of course that's true for everybody else, too.

They have 3 runs. The offense isn’t exactly carrying the load.
Holmes is kind of following  
section125 : 8/5/2022 11:27 pm : link
the Chapman pattern. Looks good on entering the game and then loses his control the longer he pitches.

RE: RE: What Lets Us Down?  
section125 : 8/5/2022 11:28 pm : link
In comment 15773043 Strahan91 said:
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Pitching. It's usually pitching. Of course that's true for everybody else, too.


They have 3 runs. The offense isn’t exactly carrying the load.


All those RISP left on base early...
That ridiculously unlikely Nootbar play looms  
Strahan91 : 8/5/2022 11:28 pm : link
large right now
RE: RE: What Lets Us Down?  
Percy : 8/5/2022 11:30 pm : link
In comment 15773043 Strahan91 said:
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In comment 15773042 Percy said:


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Pitching. It's usually pitching. Of course that's true for everybody else, too.


They have 3 runs. The offense isn’t exactly carrying the load.

True. Not blowing them away.
RE: RE: RE: What Lets Us Down?  
Mike from SI : 8/5/2022 11:32 pm : link
In comment 15773045 section125 said:
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In comment 15773042 Percy said:


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Pitching. It's usually pitching. Of course that's true for everybody else, too.


They have 3 runs. The offense isn’t exactly carrying the load.



All those RISP left on base early...


I was thinking the same thing. This loss is on basically everyone besides Nestor.
We had nobody to hit for Mr 0-30 leading off the 9th???  
Stu11 : 8/5/2022 11:33 pm : link
Laying down a bunt there would have been a ridiculously stupid idea huh?
RE: We had nobody to hit for Mr 0-30 leading off the 9th???  
Mike from SI : 8/5/2022 11:37 pm : link
In comment 15773050 Stu11 said:
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Laying down a bunt there would have been a ridiculously stupid idea huh?


I mean, do we? Marwin?

We need Stanton back in the worst way for this lineup.
Brutal Loss  
GiantGrit : 8/5/2022 11:38 pm : link
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Overall Lately  
Percy : 8/5/2022 11:38 pm : link
Don't look like the world beaters they're supposed to be. September? Long way out there still.
12-16 in their last 28 games.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/5/2022 11:40 pm : link
They're slowly but surely falling apart.
Base running was also a train wreck.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/5/2022 11:43 pm : link
Cards score 2 on 2 out double… Yanks don’t. Yanks have TWO terrible basepath outs.

Walks by pitchers killing damn near every time.

I’m not going to go crazy, but they don’t look like an elite team right now.
Hicks  
NJLCO : 8/5/2022 11:54 pm : link
All those Hicks fans from earlier this week can’t wait for him to carry us. Still hopeful.
RE: Hicks  
Stu11 : 8/6/2022 12:16 am : link
In comment 15773060 NJLCO said:
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All those Hicks fans from earlier this week can’t wait for him to carry us. Still hopeful.

Yeah they'll have to keep waiting. I'm not given to hyperbole but there can't be too many guys in baseball with a worse approach and more warped view of themselves. We're a week into August and he has all of 6 hrs yet he's still trying to pull every pitch and hit everything 480 feet when there's 8 friggen guys on the right side of the diamond. We need Mr Miagi to come in and do his danielsan all valley karate rub his hands together shit on Bader's foot pronto.
Well, we no longer have the best winning percentage in  
Jim in Hoboken : 8/6/2022 8:08 am : link
baseball, at this rate Houston will overtake us in AL also.

Certainly no time to panic but maybe not everything this team does is perfect. Maybe the resident experts can tell us why we should still expect a parade down the canyon of heroes.

Coming off this historic start, I don’t want any excuses if we finish with a whimper.

Hicks fucking sucks and should not see the light of day. I’d call up Peraza to replace the punchless IKF.
Hicks and IKF are terrible.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/6/2022 8:38 am : link
Both have to go after this season.
German vs Monty tonight  
The_Boss : 8/6/2022 8:49 am : link
Losing to Monty tonight with a guy most NYY fans don’t like/trust would be a bad look for Cashman.
RE: German vs Monty tonight  
Essex : 8/6/2022 8:57 am : link
In comment 15773105 The_Boss said:
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Losing to Monty tonight with a guy most NYY fans don’t like/trust would be a bad look for Cashman.

The only thing I care about is October. Not interested in good or bad looks. With that said, we need to protect our lead, even as unlikely as it would be to get caught, you wouldn’t want this to get too much lower and have to feel the Rays or Jays making a run at it.
IKF is what he is. I’m not particularly disappointed with him,  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/6/2022 8:59 am : link
although the defense hasn’t been as mistake free as I hoped. There’s a replacement in AAA, but I struggle to recall Cashman bringing up a rookie to play full time at this point of the season on any good Yankees teams.

Outside of a 7 game stretch, Hicks has been absolutely awful. He’s been “They need to stop playing him altogether” bad. Hicks has just 20 XBHs the past 2 seasons in over 450 plate appearances. To give you an idea of how awful that is, IKF has 16 XBHs just this season despite having zero HRs or triples. The problem though is without Stanton or Bader combined with Cashman’s unwillingness to play Florial, the only other option is playing Aaron Judge in CF and Carp in RF everyday. My goodness… THERE’S STILL THREE YEARS LEFT ON HICKS’ CONTRACT!!!!!
Our offense is really just Judge, and when Rizzo/Stanton get hot, and  
Jim in Hoboken : 8/6/2022 9:14 am : link
lately DJ. That's it. We can't count on Judge to hit 2 HR's a game in the playoffs, something needs to be done to inject some life into the lineup. I swear half the lineup is just up there guessing and putting up totally non-competitive AB's.

Hicks needs to sit, maybe we have some podiatrists on here who can work on Bader so he can return ASAP. IKF should be relegated to the bench. Torres should be told he's going to be Starlin Castro'ed next if he doesn't get his head out of his ass. Benintendi is looking like a prepubescent Gallo right now but it's very early. God willing Donaldson goes on a run this season.

There have been numerous examples of young players, not necessarily prospects, coming up in the past and injecting some juice to the season. Peraza needs to be that guy.
Just a bad loss  
Carson53 : 8/6/2022 9:46 am : link
all the way around, they wasted a few opportunities earlier in the game (especially Torres striking out twice) with men on base...
then Holmes blowing the lead late. He needs to get it together, his confidence must be shaken at this point a bit.
If Peraza comes up  
Carson53 : 8/6/2022 9:48 am : link
it will be in September, with a few others as well.
RE: Our offense is really just Judge, and when Rizzo/Stanton get hot, and  
GiantGrit : 8/6/2022 11:03 am : link
In comment 15773126 Jim in Hoboken said:
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lately DJ. That's it. We can't count on Judge to hit 2 HR's a game in the playoffs, something needs to be done to inject some life into the lineup. I swear half the lineup is just up there guessing and putting up totally non-competitive AB's.

Hicks needs to sit, maybe we have some podiatrists on here who can work on Bader so he can return ASAP. IKF should be relegated to the bench. Torres should be told he's going to be Starlin Castro'ed next if he doesn't get his head out of his ass. Benintendi is looking like a prepubescent Gallo right now but it's very early. God willing Donaldson goes on a run this season.

There have been numerous examples of young players, not necessarily prospects, coming up in the past and injecting some juice to the season. Peraza needs to be that guy.


Some fans LOVE Torres. I've been ready to move on. He's too high and low of a player. At 23 maybe he'll grow out of the boneheaded mistakes, I don't see it happening. Would have been ok trading him for Pablo Lopez if its true he was asked for.

With Peraza and Volpe playing very well I actually think he's gone this offseason. Coulda sold high at the deadline lets see how he finishes the season.
RE: Our offense is really just Judge, and when Rizzo/Stanton get hot, and  
GruningsOnTheHill : 8/6/2022 11:19 am : link
In comment 15773126 Jim in Hoboken said:
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lately DJ. That's it.

Carp says hello.
RE: If Peraza comes up  
section125 : 8/6/2022 1:37 pm : link
In comment 15773167 Carson53 said:
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it will be in September, with a few others as well.


No, teams will be limited to 28 players now, IIRC. No more 40 man rosters in September.
RE: Just a bad loss  
Stu11 : 8/6/2022 1:55 pm : link
In comment 15773163 Carson53 said:
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then Holmes blowing the lead late. He needs to get it together, his confidence must be shaken at this point a bit.

Shame is for the 4 batters he looked like the old Holmes. He overpowered their best hitters. Losing O'Neil at 1-2 was the killer. O'Neil looked overmatched and then got bailed out with the walk. St. Louis scored all their runs on 2 out hits where they simply went with the pitch and didn't try and do too much. We could take a lesson.
Who was going to pitch the 9th IF  
xman : 8/6/2022 4:12 pm : link
Holmes had held the lead?
RE: Who was going to pitch the 9th IF  
section125 : 8/6/2022 4:56 pm : link
In comment 15773350 xman said:
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Holmes had held the lead?


Peralta was warming up...
.....  
BleedBlue : 8/6/2022 5:07 pm : link
We are looking alot like last years shithole team
Promising  
Professor Falken : 8/6/2022 5:46 pm : link
Eli Fishman
@elijfishman
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4h
Yankees first round pick Spencer Jones went 3-for-4 with his first professional home run and two RBI's today in his second career game.
Peralta was the potential closer last night  
xman : 8/6/2022 8:59 pm : link
if Holmes didn't shite the bed. That is frightening.
Gleyber Torres  
GruningsOnTheHill : 8/6/2022 9:29 pm : link
the Gary Sanchez of second-basemen
Jordan Montgomery 2 hits the Yankees?  
GFAN52 : 8/6/2022 9:36 pm : link
The Yankee bats have been in deep sleep for 4 weeks now.
As ugly an offensive performance as I’ve seen in a while  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/6/2022 10:24 pm : link
and this is a team that was no hit fairly recently.

Torres looks 111111000000000% lost at the plate.

There were 3 major league level hitters in the lineup tonight.
God what a 180 this team has taken  
jgambrosio : 8/6/2022 10:26 pm : link
Yea some guys were playing over their heads in the first half but never expected this type of regression. What a horrid stretch for the hitters and even the bullpen
Brutal to watch  
terz22 : 8/6/2022 10:26 pm : link
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How was Bader’s hitting and defense tonight?  
HomerJones45 : 8/6/2022 10:29 pm : link
While our former pitcher two hit and shut out the Yankees? Oh wait . . .

Cashman must have photos of the Steinbrenner family. 12 years and counting.
Freeeeeeeee Falllliinnnnnng.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/6/2022 10:46 pm : link
Definitely in a bit of a free-fall this past month or so. Yikes. Entire team is in a daze. I think this team has reached it's peak with Judge as the face of the franchise. If they give him anything close to a decade long contract; they are nuts.
Tough stretch  
Stu11 : 8/6/2022 11:30 pm : link
Some key injuries on offenses, some guys on major funks. The pen has had its difficulties. However this is baseball. They play every day for 6 months. Unless you're the '98 Yanks or '01 Mariners you're gonna have shit periods and slumps. Nobody plays .750 ball for 6 months. The new guys in the pen have looked sharp. Hopefully we get Stanton and Rizzo back soon and the starters start giving us more length. Montas hasn't thrown a pitch for us yet. We'll be fine. It was always gonna be about October any way no matter how we were doing right now.
Hey.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/7/2022 12:19 am : link
At least we still have Aaron Hicks!
2 Hits....  
rnargi : 8/7/2022 7:48 am : link
...hahahahaha! This team is going nowhere. Enjoy your one and done playoff series with this awfully constructed team, designed to win big against shit teams in the regular seaso . Butts in seats against the scrubs. Dazzle the lookyloos with an array of HR power when it doesn't matter. Go team.
RE: Hey.  
terz22 : 8/7/2022 8:00 am : link
In comment 15773667 Dave in Hoboken said:
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At least we still have Aaron Hicks!


They have to move on from this guy. Still can believe this guy is signed on this team till 2025. Who thought that was a good idea?
Well German has looked  
section125 : 8/7/2022 9:45 am : link
good the last two starts, at least....

Monty with huge revenge...
RE: Tough stretch  
arcarsenal : 8/7/2022 9:59 am : link
In comment 15773657 Stu11 said:
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Some key injuries on offenses, some guys on major funks. The pen has had its difficulties. However this is baseball. They play every day for 6 months. Unless you're the '98 Yanks or '01 Mariners you're gonna have shit periods and slumps. Nobody plays .750 ball for 6 months. The new guys in the pen have looked sharp. Hopefully we get Stanton and Rizzo back soon and the starters start giving us more length. Montas hasn't thrown a pitch for us yet. We'll be fine. It was always gonna be about October any way no matter how we were doing right now.


Thank you for some perspective in a sea of frustration-colored irrationality.

Naturally, there's going to be a big to-do about Monty shutting the Yankees out yesterday, but trading him was even more validated in my eyes after yesterday.

He struck out one hitter. He nibbled all game long. Gleyber bailed him out of a potentially disastrous first inning (Torres has been awful this series, BTW) - and labored through 5 innings. His stuff just will not play in October. He's a 4 inning pitcher without a putaway pitch.

Beyond that, the lineup the Yanks put out there yesterday was horrendous. We basically had 4 auto-outs in the bottom half.

Rizzo is probably going to be out another day today. Stanton is still out. Hicks literally does not have one hit in his last 32 AB's - which is almost harder to do than luck into one. Higashioka is a black hole. Torres has been pretty bad recently.

Peraza looks like a service time thing at this point, so I think we'll see him, but not for another couple weeks.

Have to salvage one today. Montas is going to be limited to around 70 pitches.

I think we're going to see Schmidt back up once he's stretched and a move to a 6-man rotation of Cole, Montas, Cortes, Taillon, German, Schmidt until Severino returns.
Just some weak sauce  
Carson53 : 8/7/2022 10:00 am : link
from this team right now, hard to watch. Lets see if they can at least salvage a game, with Montas going in finale.
RE: RE: Tough stretch  
Carson53 : 8/7/2022 10:05 am : link
In comment 15773764 arcarsenal said:
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Some key injuries on offenses, some guys on major funks. The pen has had its difficulties. However this is baseball. They play every day for 6 months. Unless you're the '98 Yanks or '01 Mariners you're gonna have shit periods and slumps. Nobody plays .750 ball for 6 months. The new guys in the pen have looked sharp. Hopefully we get Stanton and Rizzo back soon and the starters start giving us more length. Montas hasn't thrown a pitch for us yet. We'll be fine. It was always gonna be about October any way no matter how we were doing right now.



Thank you for some perspective in a sea of frustration-colored irrationality.

Naturally, there's going to be a big to-do about Monty shutting the Yankees out yesterday, but trading him was even more validated in my eyes after yesterday.

He struck out one hitter. He nibbled all game long. Gleyber bailed him out of a potentially disastrous first inning (Torres has been awful this series, BTW) - and labored through 5 innings. His stuff just will not play in October. He's a 4 inning pitcher without a putaway pitch.

Beyond that, the lineup the Yanks put out there yesterday was horrendous. We basically had 4 auto-outs in the bottom half.

Rizzo is probably going to be out another day today. Stanton is still out. Hicks literally does not have one hit in his last 32 AB's - which is almost harder to do than luck into one. Higashioka is a black hole. Torres has been pretty bad recently.

Peraza looks like a service time thing at this point, so I think we'll see him, but not for another couple weeks.

Have to salvage one today. Montas is going to be limited to around 70 pitches.

I think we're going to see Schmidt back up once he's stretched and a move to a 6-man rotation of Cole, Montas, Cortes, Taillon, German, Schmidt until Severino returns.
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Monty labored through five innings, the Yanks had two hits?
The only way he labored, was his cramps in the heat...
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arcarsenal : 8/7/2022 10:09 am : link
Monty threw 83 pitches and generated just 6 swings and misses against a lineup that featured a bottom 4 of Aaron Hicks, IKF, Tim Locastro and Kyle Hiagshioka.

He struck out one batter.

That stuff does not play against postseason lineups in October.
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Carson53 : 8/7/2022 10:20 am : link
In comment 15773774 arcarsenal said:
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Monty threw 83 pitches and generated just 6 swings and misses against a lineup that featured a bottom 4 of Aaron Hicks, IKF, Tim Locastro and Kyle Hiagshioka.

He struck out one batter.

That stuff does not play against postseason lineups in October.
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That may or may not be true, to say he labored last night
is absurd, he always pitches to contact, that's who he is.
I would have liked the trade more if Bader was actually healthy, but he is not, that part doesn't make sense to me.
We have to continue to watch people like Hicks 'perform'.
Judge had 4 meatballs to mash on that 9th inning AB, when he's  
Jim in Hoboken : 8/7/2022 10:23 am : link
not on our offense is putrid.

Torres has no business, none, batting 4th, even with all the people injured. If Peraza proves semi-ready later this year, Torres should be traded this offseason and DJ can man 2B until Volpe is ready. Like someone said, Torre is lesser Sanchez 2.0. Look how we stayed with Sanchez all those years, made every excuse for him, now see how good this team looks this year with someone else behind the plate.

Hicks shouldn't see the field at all. What a disaster of a contract. Glad we haven't called Gardy back from his bingo games, but it remains to be seen how the Monty trade works out.

I'm glad Boone continues to feel the need to rest people and give games away down the stretch.
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arcarsenal : 8/7/2022 10:26 am : link
In comment 15773786 Carson53 said:
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Monty threw 83 pitches and generated just 6 swings and misses against a lineup that featured a bottom 4 of Aaron Hicks, IKF, Tim Locastro and Kyle Hiagshioka.

He struck out one batter.

That stuff does not play against postseason lineups in October.

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That may or may not be true, to say he labored last night
is absurd, he always pitches to contact, that's who he is.
I would have liked the trade more if Bader was actually healthy, but he is not, that part doesn't make sense to me.
We have to continue to watch people like Hicks 'perform'.


Absurd how? It was 100 degrees and Mike Maddux literally wouldn't take his eyes off him in the 5th inning because they were nervous about leaving him in there.

Did you watch the game?
One more thing...  
Carson53 : 8/7/2022 10:28 am : link
what the hell was Boone doing pinch-hitting with Benny late in the game...Just to clarify, Boone started Locastro presumably
because they had a lefty on the mound. When he sent Benny up to pinch hit, there was still a lefty on the mound...
Somehow he thought Benny was a better option, even though
he hasn't lefties well all year, and also hasn't done shit yet for the Yanks...That's our Booney for 'ya.
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Carson53 : 8/7/2022 10:29 am : link
In comment 15773797 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 15773774 arcarsenal said:


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Monty threw 83 pitches and generated just 6 swings and misses against a lineup that featured a bottom 4 of Aaron Hicks, IKF, Tim Locastro and Kyle Hiagshioka.

He struck out one batter.

That stuff does not play against postseason lineups in October.

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That may or may not be true, to say he labored last night
is absurd, he always pitches to contact, that's who he is.
I would have liked the trade more if Bader was actually healthy, but he is not, that part doesn't make sense to me.
We have to continue to watch people like Hicks 'perform'.



Absurd how? It was 100 degrees and Mike Maddux literally wouldn't take his eyes off him in the 5th inning because they were nervous about leaving him in there.

Did you watch the game?
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Did you?
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arcarsenal : 8/7/2022 10:34 am : link
Sure did. It was a furnace on the field. Mike Maddux didn't take his eyes off Montgomery for one second the entire 5th inning because he was nervous.

I guess that always happens when pitchers are coasting...
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Carson53 : 8/7/2022 10:43 am : link
In comment 15773805 arcarsenal said:
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Sure did. It was a furnace on the field. Mike Maddux didn't take his eyes off Montgomery for one second the entire 5th inning because he was nervous.

I guess that always happens when pitchers are coasting...
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Sure you're right...I guess he didn't cruise the first four innings then huh? He allowed two hits, if not for the cramping in the 5th, could have given them one more too.
Did you see a lot of hard contact off him, I didn't.
The way they swung the bat, couldn't have broken a chandelier in a hotel lobby. LOL.
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arcarsenal : 8/7/2022 10:47 am : link
He cruised in the 1st inning? He needed over 20 pitches to get through it. He was all over the place. Torres bailed him out with a DP ball.
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Carson53 : 8/7/2022 10:54 am : link
In comment 15773822 arcarsenal said:
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He cruised in the 1st inning? He needed over 20 pitches to get through it. He was all over the place. Torres bailed him out with a DP ball.
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German needed 32 pitches to get thru 1st, your point is?
He made it thru 5.
We have never ever seen pitchers struggle in the 1st inning.
I don't know, also three days prior, Monty was on the other team, now he is pitching against them. Just might have something to do with it, quit while you're behind there arc.
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arcarsenal : 8/7/2022 10:57 am : link
In comment 15773826 Carson53 said:
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He cruised in the 1st inning? He needed over 20 pitches to get through it. He was all over the place. Torres bailed him out with a DP ball.

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German needed 32 pitches to get thru 1st, your point is?
He made it thru 5.
We have never ever seen pitchers struggle in the 1st inning.
I don't know, also three days prior, Monty was on the other team, now he is pitching against them. Just might have something to do with it, quit while you're behind there arc.


Who said anything about German and why is that relevant? You haven't made one single salient point here. You're just... typing.

First, you said he cruised through the first 4 innings. Then I pointed out that he had a rough first and your response is "we have never ever seen pitchers struggle in the 1st inning"

And what does him being on the team a few days ago have to do with anything?

I guess when you have no actual argument, you just declare yourself the winner of the argument. Lol.

Enjoy your Sunday.
With the way their pen is performing lately  
Matt M. : 8/7/2022 2:13 pm : link
how can they defend sending Marinaccio down over someone else to clear a roster spot? I know he has options, but he's also been amazing and there are guys who have been less than stellar. Fuck options. We need results. Just DFA a guy like Luetge.
3 pitches in and the umpiring is already a disaster.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/7/2022 2:18 pm : link
DJM perseveres and hits a double.
Trevino gets horribly umped  
NYerInMA : 8/7/2022 2:49 pm : link
Shame the automatic pitch calls aren't coming until 2024. They need them yesterday.
Of the many horrendous ball strike calls this year  
Stu11 : 8/7/2022 3:07 pm : link
The Yanks were the beneficiary of 2 of the worst I've seen all year that inning. Ball one to Judge was the worst I've seen all year. That pitch wasn't even on the border. As much as we complain we get screwed, that inning we got the better half.
This might be the worst umpire at home plate  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/7/2022 3:09 pm : link
that I’ve ever seen. 5 straight pitches in the exact same spot might be 3 balls and 2 strikes.
RE: Of the many horrendous ball strike calls this year  
NYerInMA : 8/7/2022 3:09 pm : link
In comment 15773991 Stu11 said:
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The Yanks were the beneficiary of 2 of the worst I've seen all year that inning. Ball one to Judge was the worst I've seen all year. That pitch wasn't even on the border. As much as we complain we get screwed, that inning we got the better half.


Definitely, it goes both ways. It's horrible to watch.
Now he just gave Dejong a gift walk  
Stu11 : 8/7/2022 3:10 pm : link
Seriously this ump needs to be pulled. Somebody tell him he has heat exhaustion.
RE: Of the many horrendous ball strike calls this year  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/7/2022 3:10 pm : link
In comment 15773991 Stu11 said:
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The Yanks were the beneficiary of 2 of the worst I've seen all year that inning. Ball one to Judge was the worst I've seen all year. That pitch wasn't even on the border. As much as we complain we get screwed, that inning we got the better half.


Judge would need 17,000 more calls to go his way to even up the deficit.
RE: RE: Of the many horrendous ball strike calls this year  
Stu11 : 8/7/2022 3:12 pm : link
In comment 15773996 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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The Yanks were the beneficiary of 2 of the worst I've seen all year that inning. Ball one to Judge was the worst I've seen all year. That pitch wasn't even on the border. As much as we complain we get screwed, that inning we got the better half.



Judge would need 17,000 more calls to go his way to even up the deficit.

True
Aaron Hicks with the speed of a pile of mashed potatoes  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/7/2022 3:19 pm : link
in center.

Yadi Molina wishes he was that fast.
RE: Aaron Hicks with the speed of a pile of mashed potatoes  
terz22 : 8/7/2022 3:21 pm : link
In comment 15773998 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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in center.

Yadi Molina wishes he was that fast.


Lol

Not the way we'd like to see Montas make his debut...
Hicks bobble allows the slowest runner in baseball  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/7/2022 3:21 pm : link
to score easily from third.
Good Lord Hicks is horrendous  
BH28 : 8/7/2022 3:21 pm : link
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Montas is now a true Yankee.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/7/2022 3:22 pm : link
6-3 Cards.
Montas pitching like shit  
NYerInMA : 8/7/2022 3:22 pm : link
Yanks just can't catch a break these days.
Judge gets the Bonds treatment.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/7/2022 3:55 pm : link
Hopefully Carp comes through.
A good baseball team simply cannot have  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/7/2022 4:05 pm : link
Josh Donaldson or Gleyber Torres in the middle of their lineup.
Marwin gets completely screwed by the Ump.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/7/2022 4:30 pm : link
Just ridiculously bad bullshit.
You have to be motherfucking shitting me  
Stu11 : 8/7/2022 4:32 pm : link
This strike zone is moving around faster than Jesse Owens today
Boone gets tossed.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/7/2022 4:38 pm : link
The HP Ump looks like he’s about to pass out. I’ve watched plenty of CB Bucknor, Joe West, and Angel Hernandez over the years and this is the worst umpiring I’ve ever seen.


Carp strikes out looking on another pitch well off of the plate.
Boys take it in and savor it  
Stu11 : 8/7/2022 4:38 pm : link
In the history of shitty umpiring we're witnessing a hall of fame performance here today. I mean the MLB office needs to get on the phone and pull the plug on this fool. He literally gave the Cards 5 strikes that were clear balls that inning.
RE: Boys take it in and savor it  
mfsd : 8/7/2022 4:44 pm : link
In comment 15774049 Stu11 said:
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In the history of shitty umpiring we're witnessing a hall of fame performance here today. I mean the MLB office needs to get on the phone and pull the plug on this fool. He literally gave the Cards 5 strikes that were clear balls that inning.


All true. We’ve seen some shitty umpiring over the years, but that may have been the worst half inning I’ve ever seen. At least 5 clear balls were called strikes
Game untied I’m just 3 batters.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/7/2022 4:46 pm : link
Great stuff Abreu. WTF is he pitching in this spot anyway???
Enjoy fellas I'm going into the pool  
Stu11 : 8/7/2022 5:09 pm : link
We could always come back but I'm too fed up right now to enjoy my Sunday. The ump, our shitty pitching, the Cards scoring every godamn run they have this weekend with a 2 out hit. The Yanks will be ok but I need to cool off lol.
Fuck it.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/7/2022 5:12 pm : link
They should St Louis leave right now. What a disaster.
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arcarsenal : 8/7/2022 5:23 pm : link
Could Ed Hickox possibly be any worse today? Holy fuck.
When is the Josh Donaldson nightmare going to end????  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/7/2022 5:51 pm : link
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