lined up with the Marlins and had the rug pulled out from under them. Getting Pablo for Torres and a couple of mid-level prospects would have made this deadline such a massive W. We really need Montas to stay healthy and pitch well with the rest of the non-Nestor SP's struggling.
Yep, it's a pretty big bummer that the potential Lopez deal didn't get done. I do think there's a small, important distinction to make there though... because I feel I see a lot of folks who believe the Monty/Bader deal was made *only* as a "part 1 of 2" type thing with the rumored Lopez deal being the other half.
I think Cashman was comfortable making the Monty deal on its own, but obviously really wanted to add another arm too and was trying to do so.
Hopefully we're just seeing a dead-arm, dog days of summer effect on the rotation right now - we really need better performances from the SP's.
Starts tonight with Nasty Nestor. Oddly enough, I probably feel most comfortable with him on the mound of anyone we have at this point (without having seen Montas in pinstripes yet)
From reports I've read there is no reason to believe the Yanks
Why would the Marlins want Torres? They have Jazz Chisholm as their 2nd baseman of the future. And Torres is going to start making some coin. That’s not the Marlins MO. If I had to guess, the deal fell apart because the the Marlins wanted Volpe or Peraza and the Yankees were pushing for Torres in the deal
Oh yeah, 100%. Cashman's been around the block a long time.
There is no chance he prematurely jumped on the Cardinals deal thinking he had another deal lined up. It sounds like getting Lopez or another frontline SP was about further upgrading, not replacing Monty which was because they got Montas. This was from Ken Rosenthal earlier
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The Bader-Montgomery talks grew out of the Yankees telling teams, “If we import another starter, we would have a starter available.” Yet the Yankees kept trying to acquire another starter even after adding Montas, sources said, pursuing deals for the Marlins’ Pablo López, Giants’ Carlos Rodón and Tigers’ Tarik Skubal. So obviously, they were not entirely comfortable with their rotation.
Why would the Marlins want Torres? They have Jazz Chisholm as their 2nd baseman of the future. And Torres is going to start making some coin. That’s not the Marlins MO. If I had to guess, the deal fell apart because the the Marlins wanted Volpe or Peraza and the Yankees were pushing for Torres in the deal
I don't think Yanks wanted to give any of those three for Lopez.
Not saying Yanks wouldn't put Torres in the right deal but I've seen no good report that they offered him for Lopez.
Why would the Marlins want Torres? They have Jazz Chisholm as their 2nd baseman of the future. And Torres is going to start making some coin. That’s not the Marlins MO. If I had to guess, the deal fell apart because the the Marlins wanted Volpe or Peraza and the Yankees were pushing for Torres in the deal
That's possible but I could see the Marlins being interested in Gleyber. They desperately need bats and Torres and Lopez have the same amount of team control left. Jazz can also play SS and I think Kim Ng is on the hot seat so trading Lopez for prospects wouldn't really help her case in the short term.
Shyster - reports have said that the two teams were close
on a deal. I just can't see how that could've been the case if the Yankees weren't including Volpe, Peraza or Torres unless it was Jasson, Pereira ++. My hunch though is that the Yankees value Jasson more than a lot of other teams.
on a deal. I just can't see how that could've been the case if the Yankees weren't including Volpe, Peraza or Torres unless it was Jasson, Pereira ++. My hunch though is that the Yankees value Jasson more than a lot of other teams.
Perhaps. Maybe it was the additional pieces (beyond Torres) that killed the deal.
Looking back, Lopez was a piece of a 4-player package sent by the Mariners to the Marlins at the 2017 deadline for the one and only David Phelps. Phelps pitched 8 innings for Seattle before his elbow blew up.
And that Seattle team was going nowhere that year, anyway.
Agree with Flats here on just blow the guy away. Sometimes the Yankees catchers get cute. If the batter cannot catch up to the FB, don't speed up the bat with a change.
Just like 2 change ups to get behind 2-0 to O'Neill. Got behind and gives up the hit.
Agree with Flats here on just blow the guy away. Sometimes the Yankees catchers get cute. If the batter cannot catch up to the FB, don't speed up the bat with a change.
Just like 2 change ups to get behind 2-0 to O'Neill. Got behind and gives up the hit.
If one hit is struggling then oh boy id take alot more struggle from our staff
Agree with Flats here on just blow the guy away. Sometimes the Yankees catchers get cute. If the batter cannot catch up to the FB, don't speed up the bat with a change.
Just like 2 change ups to get behind 2-0 to O'Neill. Got behind and gives up the hit.
If one hit is struggling then oh boy id take alot more struggle from our staff
He was all over the place. High pitch count, but he did have the 5 pitch 4th(?). 83 pitches 48 strikes and 35 balls with 4 BBs.
I am sure they are protecting the arm too.
All those Hicks fans from earlier this week can’t wait for him to carry us. Still hopeful.
Yeah they'll have to keep waiting. I'm not given to hyperbole but there can't be too many guys in baseball with a worse approach and more warped view of themselves. We're a week into August and he has all of 6 hrs yet he's still trying to pull every pitch and hit everything 480 feet when there's 8 friggen guys on the right side of the diamond. We need Mr Miagi to come in and do his danielsan all valley karate rub his hands together shit on Bader's foot pronto.
Well, we no longer have the best winning percentage in
baseball, at this rate Houston will overtake us in AL also.
Certainly no time to panic but maybe not everything this team does is perfect. Maybe the resident experts can tell us why we should still expect a parade down the canyon of heroes.
Coming off this historic start, I don’t want any excuses if we finish with a whimper.
Hicks fucking sucks and should not see the light of day. I’d call up Peraza to replace the punchless IKF.
Losing to Monty tonight with a guy most NYY fans don’t like/trust would be a bad look for Cashman.
The only thing I care about is October. Not interested in good or bad looks. With that said, we need to protect our lead, even as unlikely as it would be to get caught, you wouldn’t want this to get too much lower and have to feel the Rays or Jays making a run at it.
IKF is what he is. I’m not particularly disappointed with him,
although the defense hasn’t been as mistake free as I hoped. There’s a replacement in AAA, but I struggle to recall Cashman bringing up a rookie to play full time at this point of the season on any good Yankees teams.
Outside of a 7 game stretch, Hicks has been absolutely awful. He’s been “They need to stop playing him altogether” bad. Hicks has just 20 XBHs the past 2 seasons in over 450 plate appearances. To give you an idea of how awful that is, IKF has 16 XBHs just this season despite having zero HRs or triples. The problem though is without Stanton or Bader combined with Cashman’s unwillingness to play Florial, the only other option is playing Aaron Judge in CF and Carp in RF everyday. My goodness… THERE’S STILL THREE YEARS LEFT ON HICKS’ CONTRACT!!!!!
Our offense is really just Judge, and when Rizzo/Stanton get hot, and
lately DJ. That's it. We can't count on Judge to hit 2 HR's a game in the playoffs, something needs to be done to inject some life into the lineup. I swear half the lineup is just up there guessing and putting up totally non-competitive AB's.
Hicks needs to sit, maybe we have some podiatrists on here who can work on Bader so he can return ASAP. IKF should be relegated to the bench. Torres should be told he's going to be Starlin Castro'ed next if he doesn't get his head out of his ass. Benintendi is looking like a prepubescent Gallo right now but it's very early. God willing Donaldson goes on a run this season.
There have been numerous examples of young players, not necessarily prospects, coming up in the past and injecting some juice to the season. Peraza needs to be that guy.
all the way around, they wasted a few opportunities earlier in the game (especially Torres striking out twice) with men on base...
then Holmes blowing the lead late. He needs to get it together, his confidence must be shaken at this point a bit.
lately DJ. That's it. We can't count on Judge to hit 2 HR's a game in the playoffs, something needs to be done to inject some life into the lineup. I swear half the lineup is just up there guessing and putting up totally non-competitive AB's.
Hicks needs to sit, maybe we have some podiatrists on here who can work on Bader so he can return ASAP. IKF should be relegated to the bench. Torres should be told he's going to be Starlin Castro'ed next if he doesn't get his head out of his ass. Benintendi is looking like a prepubescent Gallo right now but it's very early. God willing Donaldson goes on a run this season.
There have been numerous examples of young players, not necessarily prospects, coming up in the past and injecting some juice to the season. Peraza needs to be that guy.
Some fans LOVE Torres. I've been ready to move on. He's too high and low of a player. At 23 maybe he'll grow out of the boneheaded mistakes, I don't see it happening. Would have been ok trading him for Pablo Lopez if its true he was asked for.
With Peraza and Volpe playing very well I actually think he's gone this offseason. Coulda sold high at the deadline lets see how he finishes the season.
RE: Our offense is really just Judge, and when Rizzo/Stanton get hot, and
then Holmes blowing the lead late. He needs to get it together, his confidence must be shaken at this point a bit.
Shame is for the 4 batters he looked like the old Holmes. He overpowered their best hitters. Losing O'Neil at 1-2 was the killer. O'Neil looked overmatched and then got bailed out with the walk. St. Louis scored all their runs on 2 out hits where they simply went with the pitch and didn't try and do too much. We could take a lesson.
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Yankees first round pick Spencer Jones went 3-for-4 with his first professional home run and two RBI's today in his second career game.
Yea some guys were playing over their heads in the first half but never expected this type of regression. What a horrid stretch for the hitters and even the bullpen
Definitely in a bit of a free-fall this past month or so. Yikes. Entire team is in a daze. I think this team has reached it's peak with Judge as the face of the franchise. If they give him anything close to a decade long contract; they are nuts.
Some key injuries on offenses, some guys on major funks. The pen has had its difficulties. However this is baseball. They play every day for 6 months. Unless you're the '98 Yanks or '01 Mariners you're gonna have shit periods and slumps. Nobody plays .750 ball for 6 months. The new guys in the pen have looked sharp. Hopefully we get Stanton and Rizzo back soon and the starters start giving us more length. Montas hasn't thrown a pitch for us yet. We'll be fine. It was always gonna be about October any way no matter how we were doing right now.
...hahahahaha! This team is going nowhere. Enjoy your one and done playoff series with this awfully constructed team, designed to win big against shit teams in the regular seaso . Butts in seats against the scrubs. Dazzle the lookyloos with an array of HR power when it doesn't matter. Go team.
Some key injuries on offenses, some guys on major funks. The pen has had its difficulties. However this is baseball. They play every day for 6 months. Unless you're the '98 Yanks or '01 Mariners you're gonna have shit periods and slumps. Nobody plays .750 ball for 6 months. The new guys in the pen have looked sharp. Hopefully we get Stanton and Rizzo back soon and the starters start giving us more length. Montas hasn't thrown a pitch for us yet. We'll be fine. It was always gonna be about October any way no matter how we were doing right now.
Thank you for some perspective in a sea of frustration-colored irrationality.
Naturally, there's going to be a big to-do about Monty shutting the Yankees out yesterday, but trading him was even more validated in my eyes after yesterday.
He struck out one hitter. He nibbled all game long. Gleyber bailed him out of a potentially disastrous first inning (Torres has been awful this series, BTW) - and labored through 5 innings. His stuff just will not play in October. He's a 4 inning pitcher without a putaway pitch.
Beyond that, the lineup the Yanks put out there yesterday was horrendous. We basically had 4 auto-outs in the bottom half.
Rizzo is probably going to be out another day today. Stanton is still out. Hicks literally does not have one hit in his last 32 AB's - which is almost harder to do than luck into one. Higashioka is a black hole. Torres has been pretty bad recently.
Peraza looks like a service time thing at this point, so I think we'll see him, but not for another couple weeks.
Have to salvage one today. Montas is going to be limited to around 70 pitches.
I think we're going to see Schmidt back up once he's stretched and a move to a 6-man rotation of Cole, Montas, Cortes, Taillon, German, Schmidt until Severino returns.
Some key injuries on offenses, some guys on major funks. The pen has had its difficulties. However this is baseball. They play every day for 6 months. Unless you're the '98 Yanks or '01 Mariners you're gonna have shit periods and slumps. Nobody plays .750 ball for 6 months. The new guys in the pen have looked sharp. Hopefully we get Stanton and Rizzo back soon and the starters start giving us more length. Montas hasn't thrown a pitch for us yet. We'll be fine. It was always gonna be about October any way no matter how we were doing right now.
Thank you for some perspective in a sea of frustration-colored irrationality.
Naturally, there's going to be a big to-do about Monty shutting the Yankees out yesterday, but trading him was even more validated in my eyes after yesterday.
He struck out one hitter. He nibbled all game long. Gleyber bailed him out of a potentially disastrous first inning (Torres has been awful this series, BTW) - and labored through 5 innings. His stuff just will not play in October. He's a 4 inning pitcher without a putaway pitch.
Beyond that, the lineup the Yanks put out there yesterday was horrendous. We basically had 4 auto-outs in the bottom half.
Rizzo is probably going to be out another day today. Stanton is still out. Hicks literally does not have one hit in his last 32 AB's - which is almost harder to do than luck into one. Higashioka is a black hole. Torres has been pretty bad recently.
Peraza looks like a service time thing at this point, so I think we'll see him, but not for another couple weeks.
Have to salvage one today. Montas is going to be limited to around 70 pitches.
I think we're going to see Schmidt back up once he's stretched and a move to a 6-man rotation of Cole, Montas, Cortes, Taillon, German, Schmidt until Severino returns.
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Monty labored through five innings, the Yanks had two hits?
The only way he labored, was his cramps in the heat...
Monty threw 83 pitches and generated just 6 swings and misses against a lineup that featured a bottom 4 of Aaron Hicks, IKF, Tim Locastro and Kyle Hiagshioka.
He struck out one batter.
That stuff does not play against postseason lineups in October.
Monty threw 83 pitches and generated just 6 swings and misses against a lineup that featured a bottom 4 of Aaron Hicks, IKF, Tim Locastro and Kyle Hiagshioka.
He struck out one batter.
That stuff does not play against postseason lineups in October.
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That may or may not be true, to say he labored last night
is absurd, he always pitches to contact, that's who he is.
I would have liked the trade more if Bader was actually healthy, but he is not, that part doesn't make sense to me.
We have to continue to watch people like Hicks 'perform'.
Judge had 4 meatballs to mash on that 9th inning AB, when he's
Torres has no business, none, batting 4th, even with all the people injured. If Peraza proves semi-ready later this year, Torres should be traded this offseason and DJ can man 2B until Volpe is ready. Like someone said, Torre is lesser Sanchez 2.0. Look how we stayed with Sanchez all those years, made every excuse for him, now see how good this team looks this year with someone else behind the plate.
Hicks shouldn't see the field at all. What a disaster of a contract. Glad we haven't called Gardy back from his bingo games, but it remains to be seen how the Monty trade works out.
I'm glad Boone continues to feel the need to rest people and give games away down the stretch.
Monty threw 83 pitches and generated just 6 swings and misses against a lineup that featured a bottom 4 of Aaron Hicks, IKF, Tim Locastro and Kyle Hiagshioka.
He struck out one batter.
That stuff does not play against postseason lineups in October.
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That may or may not be true, to say he labored last night
is absurd, he always pitches to contact, that's who he is.
I would have liked the trade more if Bader was actually healthy, but he is not, that part doesn't make sense to me.
We have to continue to watch people like Hicks 'perform'.
Absurd how? It was 100 degrees and Mike Maddux literally wouldn't take his eyes off him in the 5th inning because they were nervous about leaving him in there.
what the hell was Boone doing pinch-hitting with Benny late in the game...Just to clarify, Boone started Locastro presumably
because they had a lefty on the mound. When he sent Benny up to pinch hit, there was still a lefty on the mound...
Somehow he thought Benny was a better option, even though
he hasn't lefties well all year, and also hasn't done shit yet for the Yanks...That's our Booney for 'ya.
Monty threw 83 pitches and generated just 6 swings and misses against a lineup that featured a bottom 4 of Aaron Hicks, IKF, Tim Locastro and Kyle Hiagshioka.
He struck out one batter.
That stuff does not play against postseason lineups in October.
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That may or may not be true, to say he labored last night
is absurd, he always pitches to contact, that's who he is.
I would have liked the trade more if Bader was actually healthy, but he is not, that part doesn't make sense to me.
We have to continue to watch people like Hicks 'perform'.
Absurd how? It was 100 degrees and Mike Maddux literally wouldn't take his eyes off him in the 5th inning because they were nervous about leaving him in there.
Sure did. It was a furnace on the field. Mike Maddux didn't take his eyes off Montgomery for one second the entire 5th inning because he was nervous.
I guess that always happens when pitchers are coasting...
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Sure you're right...I guess he didn't cruise the first four innings then huh? He allowed two hits, if not for the cramping in the 5th, could have given them one more too.
Did you see a lot of hard contact off him, I didn't.
The way they swung the bat, couldn't have broken a chandelier in a hotel lobby. LOL.
He cruised in the 1st inning? He needed over 20 pitches to get through it. He was all over the place. Torres bailed him out with a DP ball.
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German needed 32 pitches to get thru 1st, your point is?
He made it thru 5.
We have never ever seen pitchers struggle in the 1st inning.
I don't know, also three days prior, Monty was on the other team, now he is pitching against them. Just might have something to do with it, quit while you're behind there arc.
He cruised in the 1st inning? He needed over 20 pitches to get through it. He was all over the place. Torres bailed him out with a DP ball.
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German needed 32 pitches to get thru 1st, your point is?
He made it thru 5.
We have never ever seen pitchers struggle in the 1st inning.
I don't know, also three days prior, Monty was on the other team, now he is pitching against them. Just might have something to do with it, quit while you're behind there arc.
Who said anything about German and why is that relevant? You haven't made one single salient point here. You're just... typing.
First, you said he cruised through the first 4 innings. Then I pointed out that he had a rough first and your response is "we have never ever seen pitchers struggle in the 1st inning"
And what does him being on the team a few days ago have to do with anything?
I guess when you have no actual argument, you just declare yourself the winner of the argument. Lol.
how can they defend sending Marinaccio down over someone else to clear a roster spot? I know he has options, but he's also been amazing and there are guys who have been less than stellar. Fuck options. We need results. Just DFA a guy like Luetge.
3 pitches in and the umpiring is already a disaster.
The Yanks were the beneficiary of 2 of the worst I've seen all year that inning. Ball one to Judge was the worst I've seen all year. That pitch wasn't even on the border. As much as we complain we get screwed, that inning we got the better half.
The Yanks were the beneficiary of 2 of the worst I've seen all year that inning. Ball one to Judge was the worst I've seen all year. That pitch wasn't even on the border. As much as we complain we get screwed, that inning we got the better half.
Definitely, it goes both ways. It's horrible to watch.
The Yanks were the beneficiary of 2 of the worst I've seen all year that inning. Ball one to Judge was the worst I've seen all year. That pitch wasn't even on the border. As much as we complain we get screwed, that inning we got the better half.
Judge would need 17,000 more calls to go his way to even up the deficit.
RE: RE: Of the many horrendous ball strike calls this year
The Yanks were the beneficiary of 2 of the worst I've seen all year that inning. Ball one to Judge was the worst I've seen all year. That pitch wasn't even on the border. As much as we complain we get screwed, that inning we got the better half.
Judge would need 17,000 more calls to go his way to even up the deficit.
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Aaron Hicks with the speed of a pile of mashed potatoes
The HP Ump looks like he’s about to pass out. I’ve watched plenty of CB Bucknor, Joe West, and Angel Hernandez over the years and this is the worst umpiring I’ve ever seen.
Carp strikes out looking on another pitch well off of the plate.
In the history of shitty umpiring we're witnessing a hall of fame performance here today. I mean the MLB office needs to get on the phone and pull the plug on this fool. He literally gave the Cards 5 strikes that were clear balls that inning.
In the history of shitty umpiring we're witnessing a hall of fame performance here today. I mean the MLB office needs to get on the phone and pull the plug on this fool. He literally gave the Cards 5 strikes that were clear balls that inning.
All true. We’ve seen some shitty umpiring over the years, but that may have been the worst half inning I’ve ever seen. At least 5 clear balls were called strikes
We could always come back but I'm too fed up right now to enjoy my Sunday. The ump, our shitty pitching, the Cards scoring every godamn run they have this weekend with a 2 out hit. The Yanks will be ok but I need to cool off lol.
Hopefully Nasty Nes gives them a good start tonight.
I think Cashman was comfortable making the Monty deal on its own, but obviously really wanted to add another arm too and was trying to do so.
Hopefully we're just seeing a dead-arm, dog days of summer effect on the rotation right now - we really need better performances from the SP's.
Starts tonight with Nasty Nestor. Oddly enough, I probably feel most comfortable with him on the mound of anyone we have at this point (without having seen Montas in pinstripes yet)
Giving up Torres would be a risky move. DJL is 34 years old. He's having a bounce back year, which is nice, but time marches on.
I don't think Yanks wanted to give any of those three for Lopez.
Not saying Yanks wouldn't put Torres in the right deal but I've seen no good report that they offered him for Lopez.
That's possible but I could see the Marlins being interested in Gleyber. They desperately need bats and Torres and Lopez have the same amount of team control left. Jazz can also play SS and I think Kim Ng is on the hot seat so trading Lopez for prospects wouldn't really help her case in the short term.
I saw a poster above say he liked Tendi batting 9th. I don't; I like high average guys hitting with runners on base. But if it works I'm all for it.
I saw a poster above say he liked Tendi batting 9th. I don't; I like high average guys hitting with runners on base. But if it works I'm all for it.
He has not hit well in his week here. I think they dropped him to calm him and then get DJ and Judge behind him so he sees better pitches.
Perhaps. Maybe it was the additional pieces (beyond Torres) that killed the deal.
Looking back, Lopez was a piece of a 4-player package sent by the Mariners to the Marlins at the 2017 deadline for the one and only David Phelps. Phelps pitched 8 innings for Seattle before his elbow blew up.
And that Seattle team was going nowhere that year, anyway.
D. LeMahieu1B 103-356 42 11 4 .289
A. JudgeRF 115-386 93 43 10 .298
M. CarpenterDH 37-115 36 15 0 .322
G. Torres2B 86-339 46 16 5 .254
J. Donaldson3B 67-305 38 10 2 .220
A. BenintendiLF 112-367 41 3 6 .305
I. Kiner-FalefaSS 90-327 32 0 15 .275
J. TrevinoC 54-204 34 10 2 .265
A. HicksCF 62-278 31 6 9 .223
JD bailed him out!
0 for 19. Not even close to any of those pitches
1. Carpenter is not fast
2. That was a rocket ship that caromed of the base of the wall right to RF
Yankees have some slow players, but they are not a slow team.
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by Gleyber. Put the bat on the ball, my dude.
0 for 19. Not even close to any of those pitches
His usual swing at one in his eyes...he simply cannot lay off the shoulder high FB.
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I figured he'd score easily. Hope Benintendi gets back on track soon.
If not I just follow the score. It is frustrating though.
The last few weeks the Yankees have left a large number of LOBs. Won't win many games that way.
If not I just follow the score. It is frustrating though.
The game is on Amazon Prime but I'm not sure if you have to be in market or not.
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Love that.
Especially with the shaky bullpen.
Agree with Flats here on just blow the guy away. Sometimes the Yankees catchers get cute. If the batter cannot catch up to the FB, don't speed up the bat with a change.
Just like 2 change ups to get behind 2-0 to O'Neill. Got behind and gives up the hit.
Huh?
Agree with Flats here on just blow the guy away. Sometimes the Yankees catchers get cute. If the batter cannot catch up to the FB, don't speed up the bat with a change.
Just like 2 change ups to get behind 2-0 to O'Neill. Got behind and gives up the hit.
If one hit is struggling then oh boy id take alot more struggle from our staff
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Cortes. He was really struggling .
Agree with Flats here on just blow the guy away. Sometimes the Yankees catchers get cute. If the batter cannot catch up to the FB, don't speed up the bat with a change.
Just like 2 change ups to get behind 2-0 to O'Neill. Got behind and gives up the hit.
If one hit is struggling then oh boy id take alot more struggle from our staff
He was all over the place. High pitch count, but he did have the 5 pitch 4th(?). 83 pitches 48 strikes and 35 balls with 4 BBs.
I am sure they are protecting the arm too.
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They have 3 runs. The offense isn’t exactly carrying the load.
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Pitching. It's usually pitching. Of course that's true for everybody else, too.
They have 3 runs. The offense isn’t exactly carrying the load.
All those RISP left on base early...
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Pitching. It's usually pitching. Of course that's true for everybody else, too.
They have 3 runs. The offense isn’t exactly carrying the load.
True. Not blowing them away.
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Pitching. It's usually pitching. Of course that's true for everybody else, too.
They have 3 runs. The offense isn’t exactly carrying the load.
All those RISP left on base early...
I was thinking the same thing. This loss is on basically everyone besides Nestor.
I mean, do we? Marwin?
We need Stanton back in the worst way for this lineup.
Walks by pitchers killing damn near every time.
I’m not going to go crazy, but they don’t look like an elite team right now.
Yeah they'll have to keep waiting. I'm not given to hyperbole but there can't be too many guys in baseball with a worse approach and more warped view of themselves. We're a week into August and he has all of 6 hrs yet he's still trying to pull every pitch and hit everything 480 feet when there's 8 friggen guys on the right side of the diamond. We need Mr Miagi to come in and do his danielsan all valley karate rub his hands together shit on Bader's foot pronto.
Certainly no time to panic but maybe not everything this team does is perfect. Maybe the resident experts can tell us why we should still expect a parade down the canyon of heroes.
Coming off this historic start, I don’t want any excuses if we finish with a whimper.
Hicks fucking sucks and should not see the light of day. I’d call up Peraza to replace the punchless IKF.
The only thing I care about is October. Not interested in good or bad looks. With that said, we need to protect our lead, even as unlikely as it would be to get caught, you wouldn’t want this to get too much lower and have to feel the Rays or Jays making a run at it.
Outside of a 7 game stretch, Hicks has been absolutely awful. He’s been “They need to stop playing him altogether” bad. Hicks has just 20 XBHs the past 2 seasons in over 450 plate appearances. To give you an idea of how awful that is, IKF has 16 XBHs just this season despite having zero HRs or triples. The problem though is without Stanton or Bader combined with Cashman’s unwillingness to play Florial, the only other option is playing Aaron Judge in CF and Carp in RF everyday. My goodness… THERE’S STILL THREE YEARS LEFT ON HICKS’ CONTRACT!!!!!
Hicks needs to sit, maybe we have some podiatrists on here who can work on Bader so he can return ASAP. IKF should be relegated to the bench. Torres should be told he's going to be Starlin Castro'ed next if he doesn't get his head out of his ass. Benintendi is looking like a prepubescent Gallo right now but it's very early. God willing Donaldson goes on a run this season.
There have been numerous examples of young players, not necessarily prospects, coming up in the past and injecting some juice to the season. Peraza needs to be that guy.
then Holmes blowing the lead late. He needs to get it together, his confidence must be shaken at this point a bit.
Hicks needs to sit, maybe we have some podiatrists on here who can work on Bader so he can return ASAP. IKF should be relegated to the bench. Torres should be told he's going to be Starlin Castro'ed next if he doesn't get his head out of his ass. Benintendi is looking like a prepubescent Gallo right now but it's very early. God willing Donaldson goes on a run this season.
There have been numerous examples of young players, not necessarily prospects, coming up in the past and injecting some juice to the season. Peraza needs to be that guy.
Some fans LOVE Torres. I've been ready to move on. He's too high and low of a player. At 23 maybe he'll grow out of the boneheaded mistakes, I don't see it happening. Would have been ok trading him for Pablo Lopez if its true he was asked for.
With Peraza and Volpe playing very well I actually think he's gone this offseason. Coulda sold high at the deadline lets see how he finishes the season.
Carp says hello.
No, teams will be limited to 28 players now, IIRC. No more 40 man rosters in September.
then Holmes blowing the lead late. He needs to get it together, his confidence must be shaken at this point a bit.
Shame is for the 4 batters he looked like the old Holmes. He overpowered their best hitters. Losing O'Neil at 1-2 was the killer. O'Neil looked overmatched and then got bailed out with the walk. St. Louis scored all their runs on 2 out hits where they simply went with the pitch and didn't try and do too much. We could take a lesson.
Peralta was warming up...
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Yankees first round pick Spencer Jones went 3-for-4 with his first professional home run and two RBI's today in his second career game.
Torres looks 111111000000000% lost at the plate.
There were 3 major league level hitters in the lineup tonight.
Cashman must have photos of the Steinbrenner family. 12 years and counting.
They have to move on from this guy. Still can believe this guy is signed on this team till 2025. Who thought that was a good idea?
Monty with huge revenge...
Thank you for some perspective in a sea of frustration-colored irrationality.
Naturally, there's going to be a big to-do about Monty shutting the Yankees out yesterday, but trading him was even more validated in my eyes after yesterday.
He struck out one hitter. He nibbled all game long. Gleyber bailed him out of a potentially disastrous first inning (Torres has been awful this series, BTW) - and labored through 5 innings. His stuff just will not play in October. He's a 4 inning pitcher without a putaway pitch.
Beyond that, the lineup the Yanks put out there yesterday was horrendous. We basically had 4 auto-outs in the bottom half.
Rizzo is probably going to be out another day today. Stanton is still out. Hicks literally does not have one hit in his last 32 AB's - which is almost harder to do than luck into one. Higashioka is a black hole. Torres has been pretty bad recently.
Peraza looks like a service time thing at this point, so I think we'll see him, but not for another couple weeks.
Have to salvage one today. Montas is going to be limited to around 70 pitches.
I think we're going to see Schmidt back up once he's stretched and a move to a 6-man rotation of Cole, Montas, Cortes, Taillon, German, Schmidt until Severino returns.
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Some key injuries on offenses, some guys on major funks. The pen has had its difficulties. However this is baseball. They play every day for 6 months. Unless you're the '98 Yanks or '01 Mariners you're gonna have shit periods and slumps. Nobody plays .750 ball for 6 months. The new guys in the pen have looked sharp. Hopefully we get Stanton and Rizzo back soon and the starters start giving us more length. Montas hasn't thrown a pitch for us yet. We'll be fine. It was always gonna be about October any way no matter how we were doing right now.
Thank you for some perspective in a sea of frustration-colored irrationality.
Naturally, there's going to be a big to-do about Monty shutting the Yankees out yesterday, but trading him was even more validated in my eyes after yesterday.
He struck out one hitter. He nibbled all game long. Gleyber bailed him out of a potentially disastrous first inning (Torres has been awful this series, BTW) - and labored through 5 innings. His stuff just will not play in October. He's a 4 inning pitcher without a putaway pitch.
Beyond that, the lineup the Yanks put out there yesterday was horrendous. We basically had 4 auto-outs in the bottom half.
Rizzo is probably going to be out another day today. Stanton is still out. Hicks literally does not have one hit in his last 32 AB's - which is almost harder to do than luck into one. Higashioka is a black hole. Torres has been pretty bad recently.
Peraza looks like a service time thing at this point, so I think we'll see him, but not for another couple weeks.
Have to salvage one today. Montas is going to be limited to around 70 pitches.
I think we're going to see Schmidt back up once he's stretched and a move to a 6-man rotation of Cole, Montas, Cortes, Taillon, German, Schmidt until Severino returns.
Monty labored through five innings, the Yanks had two hits?
The only way he labored, was his cramps in the heat...
He struck out one batter.
That stuff does not play against postseason lineups in October.
He struck out one batter.
That stuff does not play against postseason lineups in October.
That may or may not be true, to say he labored last night
is absurd, he always pitches to contact, that's who he is.
I would have liked the trade more if Bader was actually healthy, but he is not, that part doesn't make sense to me.
We have to continue to watch people like Hicks 'perform'.
Torres has no business, none, batting 4th, even with all the people injured. If Peraza proves semi-ready later this year, Torres should be traded this offseason and DJ can man 2B until Volpe is ready. Like someone said, Torre is lesser Sanchez 2.0. Look how we stayed with Sanchez all those years, made every excuse for him, now see how good this team looks this year with someone else behind the plate.
Hicks shouldn't see the field at all. What a disaster of a contract. Glad we haven't called Gardy back from his bingo games, but it remains to be seen how the Monty trade works out.
I'm glad Boone continues to feel the need to rest people and give games away down the stretch.
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Monty threw 83 pitches and generated just 6 swings and misses against a lineup that featured a bottom 4 of Aaron Hicks, IKF, Tim Locastro and Kyle Hiagshioka.
He struck out one batter.
That stuff does not play against postseason lineups in October.
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That may or may not be true, to say he labored last night
is absurd, he always pitches to contact, that's who he is.
I would have liked the trade more if Bader was actually healthy, but he is not, that part doesn't make sense to me.
We have to continue to watch people like Hicks 'perform'.
Absurd how? It was 100 degrees and Mike Maddux literally wouldn't take his eyes off him in the 5th inning because they were nervous about leaving him in there.
Did you watch the game?
because they had a lefty on the mound. When he sent Benny up to pinch hit, there was still a lefty on the mound...
Somehow he thought Benny was a better option, even though
he hasn't lefties well all year, and also hasn't done shit yet for the Yanks...That's our Booney for 'ya.
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Monty threw 83 pitches and generated just 6 swings and misses against a lineup that featured a bottom 4 of Aaron Hicks, IKF, Tim Locastro and Kyle Hiagshioka.
He struck out one batter.
That stuff does not play against postseason lineups in October.
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That may or may not be true, to say he labored last night
is absurd, he always pitches to contact, that's who he is.
I would have liked the trade more if Bader was actually healthy, but he is not, that part doesn't make sense to me.
We have to continue to watch people like Hicks 'perform'.
Absurd how? It was 100 degrees and Mike Maddux literally wouldn't take his eyes off him in the 5th inning because they were nervous about leaving him in there.
Did you watch the game?
Did you?
I guess that always happens when pitchers are coasting...
I guess that always happens when pitchers are coasting...
Sure you're right...I guess he didn't cruise the first four innings then huh? He allowed two hits, if not for the cramping in the 5th, could have given them one more too.
Did you see a lot of hard contact off him, I didn't.
The way they swung the bat, couldn't have broken a chandelier in a hotel lobby. LOL.
German needed 32 pitches to get thru 1st, your point is?
He made it thru 5.
We have never ever seen pitchers struggle in the 1st inning.
I don't know, also three days prior, Monty was on the other team, now he is pitching against them. Just might have something to do with it, quit while you're behind there arc.
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He cruised in the 1st inning? He needed over 20 pitches to get through it. He was all over the place. Torres bailed him out with a DP ball.
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German needed 32 pitches to get thru 1st, your point is?
He made it thru 5.
We have never ever seen pitchers struggle in the 1st inning.
I don't know, also three days prior, Monty was on the other team, now he is pitching against them. Just might have something to do with it, quit while you're behind there arc.
Who said anything about German and why is that relevant? You haven't made one single salient point here. You're just... typing.
First, you said he cruised through the first 4 innings. Then I pointed out that he had a rough first and your response is "we have never ever seen pitchers struggle in the 1st inning"
And what does him being on the team a few days ago have to do with anything?
I guess when you have no actual argument, you just declare yourself the winner of the argument. Lol.
Enjoy your Sunday.
Definitely, it goes both ways. It's horrible to watch.
Judge would need 17,000 more calls to go his way to even up the deficit.
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The Yanks were the beneficiary of 2 of the worst I've seen all year that inning. Ball one to Judge was the worst I've seen all year. That pitch wasn't even on the border. As much as we complain we get screwed, that inning we got the better half.
Judge would need 17,000 more calls to go his way to even up the deficit.
True
Yadi Molina wishes he was that fast.
Yadi Molina wishes he was that fast.
Lol
Not the way we'd like to see Montas make his debut...
Carp strikes out looking on another pitch well off of the plate.
All true. We’ve seen some shitty umpiring over the years, but that may have been the worst half inning I’ve ever seen. At least 5 clear balls were called strikes