lined up with the Marlins and had the rug pulled out from under them. Getting Pablo for Torres and a couple of mid-level prospects would have made this deadline such a massive W. We really need Montas to stay healthy and pitch well with the rest of the non-Nestor SP's struggling.
Yep, it's a pretty big bummer that the potential Lopez deal didn't get done. I do think there's a small, important distinction to make there though... because I feel I see a lot of folks who believe the Monty/Bader deal was made *only* as a "part 1 of 2" type thing with the rumored Lopez deal being the other half.
I think Cashman was comfortable making the Monty deal on its own, but obviously really wanted to add another arm too and was trying to do so.
Hopefully we're just seeing a dead-arm, dog days of summer effect on the rotation right now - we really need better performances from the SP's.
Starts tonight with Nasty Nestor. Oddly enough, I probably feel most comfortable with him on the mound of anyone we have at this point (without having seen Montas in pinstripes yet)
From reports I've read there is no reason to believe the Yanks
Why would the Marlins want Torres? They have Jazz Chisholm as their 2nd baseman of the future. And Torres is going to start making some coin. That’s not the Marlins MO. If I had to guess, the deal fell apart because the the Marlins wanted Volpe or Peraza and the Yankees were pushing for Torres in the deal
Oh yeah, 100%. Cashman's been around the block a long time.
There is no chance he prematurely jumped on the Cardinals deal thinking he had another deal lined up. It sounds like getting Lopez or another frontline SP was about further upgrading, not replacing Monty which was because they got Montas. This was from Ken Rosenthal earlier
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The Bader-Montgomery talks grew out of the Yankees telling teams, “If we import another starter, we would have a starter available.” Yet the Yankees kept trying to acquire another starter even after adding Montas, sources said, pursuing deals for the Marlins’ Pablo López, Giants’ Carlos Rodón and Tigers’ Tarik Skubal. So obviously, they were not entirely comfortable with their rotation.
Why would the Marlins want Torres? They have Jazz Chisholm as their 2nd baseman of the future. And Torres is going to start making some coin. That’s not the Marlins MO. If I had to guess, the deal fell apart because the the Marlins wanted Volpe or Peraza and the Yankees were pushing for Torres in the deal
I don't think Yanks wanted to give any of those three for Lopez.
Not saying Yanks wouldn't put Torres in the right deal but I've seen no good report that they offered him for Lopez.
Why would the Marlins want Torres? They have Jazz Chisholm as their 2nd baseman of the future. And Torres is going to start making some coin. That’s not the Marlins MO. If I had to guess, the deal fell apart because the the Marlins wanted Volpe or Peraza and the Yankees were pushing for Torres in the deal
That's possible but I could see the Marlins being interested in Gleyber. They desperately need bats and Torres and Lopez have the same amount of team control left. Jazz can also play SS and I think Kim Ng is on the hot seat so trading Lopez for prospects wouldn't really help her case in the short term.
Shyster - reports have said that the two teams were close
on a deal. I just can't see how that could've been the case if the Yankees weren't including Volpe, Peraza or Torres unless it was Jasson, Pereira ++. My hunch though is that the Yankees value Jasson more than a lot of other teams.
on a deal. I just can't see how that could've been the case if the Yankees weren't including Volpe, Peraza or Torres unless it was Jasson, Pereira ++. My hunch though is that the Yankees value Jasson more than a lot of other teams.
Perhaps. Maybe it was the additional pieces (beyond Torres) that killed the deal.
Looking back, Lopez was a piece of a 4-player package sent by the Mariners to the Marlins at the 2017 deadline for the one and only David Phelps. Phelps pitched 8 innings for Seattle before his elbow blew up.
And that Seattle team was going nowhere that year, anyway.
Agree with Flats here on just blow the guy away. Sometimes the Yankees catchers get cute. If the batter cannot catch up to the FB, don't speed up the bat with a change.
Just like 2 change ups to get behind 2-0 to O'Neill. Got behind and gives up the hit.
Agree with Flats here on just blow the guy away. Sometimes the Yankees catchers get cute. If the batter cannot catch up to the FB, don't speed up the bat with a change.
Just like 2 change ups to get behind 2-0 to O'Neill. Got behind and gives up the hit.
If one hit is struggling then oh boy id take alot more struggle from our staff
Hopefully Nasty Nes gives them a good start tonight.
I think Cashman was comfortable making the Monty deal on its own, but obviously really wanted to add another arm too and was trying to do so.
Hopefully we're just seeing a dead-arm, dog days of summer effect on the rotation right now - we really need better performances from the SP's.
Starts tonight with Nasty Nestor. Oddly enough, I probably feel most comfortable with him on the mound of anyone we have at this point (without having seen Montas in pinstripes yet)
Giving up Torres would be a risky move. DJL is 34 years old. He's having a bounce back year, which is nice, but time marches on.
I don't think Yanks wanted to give any of those three for Lopez.
Not saying Yanks wouldn't put Torres in the right deal but I've seen no good report that they offered him for Lopez.
That's possible but I could see the Marlins being interested in Gleyber. They desperately need bats and Torres and Lopez have the same amount of team control left. Jazz can also play SS and I think Kim Ng is on the hot seat so trading Lopez for prospects wouldn't really help her case in the short term.
I saw a poster above say he liked Tendi batting 9th. I don't; I like high average guys hitting with runners on base. But if it works I'm all for it.
I saw a poster above say he liked Tendi batting 9th. I don't; I like high average guys hitting with runners on base. But if it works I'm all for it.
He has not hit well in his week here. I think they dropped him to calm him and then get DJ and Judge behind him so he sees better pitches.
Perhaps. Maybe it was the additional pieces (beyond Torres) that killed the deal.
Looking back, Lopez was a piece of a 4-player package sent by the Mariners to the Marlins at the 2017 deadline for the one and only David Phelps. Phelps pitched 8 innings for Seattle before his elbow blew up.
And that Seattle team was going nowhere that year, anyway.
D. LeMahieu1B 103-356 42 11 4 .289
A. JudgeRF 115-386 93 43 10 .298
M. CarpenterDH 37-115 36 15 0 .322
G. Torres2B 86-339 46 16 5 .254
J. Donaldson3B 67-305 38 10 2 .220
A. BenintendiLF 112-367 41 3 6 .305
I. Kiner-FalefaSS 90-327 32 0 15 .275
J. TrevinoC 54-204 34 10 2 .265
A. HicksCF 62-278 31 6 9 .223
JD bailed him out!
0 for 19. Not even close to any of those pitches
1. Carpenter is not fast
2. That was a rocket ship that caromed of the base of the wall right to RF
Yankees have some slow players, but they are not a slow team.
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by Gleyber. Put the bat on the ball, my dude.
0 for 19. Not even close to any of those pitches
His usual swing at one in his eyes...he simply cannot lay off the shoulder high FB.
+1
I figured he'd score easily. Hope Benintendi gets back on track soon.
If not I just follow the score. It is frustrating though.
The last few weeks the Yankees have left a large number of LOBs. Won't win many games that way.
If not I just follow the score. It is frustrating though.
The game is on Amazon Prime but I'm not sure if you have to be in market or not.
Peraza - ( New Window )
Love that.
Especially with the shaky bullpen.
Agree with Flats here on just blow the guy away. Sometimes the Yankees catchers get cute. If the batter cannot catch up to the FB, don't speed up the bat with a change.
Just like 2 change ups to get behind 2-0 to O'Neill. Got behind and gives up the hit.
Huh?
Agree with Flats here on just blow the guy away. Sometimes the Yankees catchers get cute. If the batter cannot catch up to the FB, don't speed up the bat with a change.
Just like 2 change ups to get behind 2-0 to O'Neill. Got behind and gives up the hit.
If one hit is struggling then oh boy id take alot more struggle from our staff