D. Peterson vs. J. Odorizzi
Nimmo
Marte
Lindor
Alonso
Vogelbach
McNeil
Naquin
Guillorme
McCann
Acuna Jr.
Swanson
Riley
Olson
d'Arnaud
Grossman
Contreras
Arcia
Harris II
Tonight is battle of the Maxs: Fried vs. Scherzer
Mets up 2-0 with Guillorme and McCann on base as I post this.
I like it. Hopefully that works out in our favor.
Odorizzi is pitching fairly well but we are definitely missing opportunities.
It's ridiculous that they didn't acquire a quality Lefty
+1, I have very little confidence in Lugo.
I was reading something about Joely in The Athletic yesterday that made it sound like he is better than his stats indicate. I'll try to find it and post it. I may also be wrong and not remembering correctly.
I like Medina more than Lopez...but seems like Mets don't feel same way??
Lopez cant even get 3 outs.
Well he's not really on the standard roster...just for the double header
It was Alderson, he is still calling the shots and he hasn't put a good Bullpen together ever during his hundred years with the Mets
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Hey Eppler…fuck you.
It was Alderson, he is still calling the shots and he hasn't put a good Bullpen together ever during his hundred years with the Mets
And you know this, how? Did Sandy make to dumb fucking comments about there being a robust RP trade market after trading Holderman? No, that was Eppler.
If I had to guess, Sandy didn’t have anything to do with it. This trade deadline was a bust for Eppler, not Sandy.
Let’s see if it bites them in the ass for the next game. If I’m a betting man, runs will be hard to come by in the second game.
Lol. My thoughts exactly.
It's clear his power is less compared to previous seasons. Though, these comments were confusing. He's supposed to transition to the business side. Not sure why he is telegraphing the team's trade plans 3 weeks before the deadline.
Can't complain
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Hey Eppler…fuck you.
It was Alderson, he is still calling the shots and he hasn't put a good Bullpen together ever during his hundred years with the Mets
And you know this, how? Did Sandy make to dumb fucking comments about there being a robust RP trade market after trading Holderman? No, that was Eppler.
If I had to guess, Sandy didn’t have anything to do with it. This trade deadline was a bust for Eppler, not Sandy.
The trade deadline was Sandy's MO all the way - no action until the last minute, overpaying and crappy trades, and leaving the bullpen with holes in it
Tim Britton in the Athletic said Executives thought the Mets were spooked by Alderson's awful Baez trade last year. Alderson went on Heyman and Sherman's podcast himself and said they weren't going to trade any of the big prospects because of last year's Baez trade
Eppler wasn't here last year, so if the Mets were spooked, it has to be Alderson
It was reported last winter that no quality GM candidate wanted to even interview for the Mets job because of Alderson being there. Now we know why
It's clear his power is less compared to previous seasons. Though, these comments were confusing. He's supposed to transition to the business side. Not sure why he is telegraphing the team's trade plans 3 weeks before the deadline.
This is my undrstanding as well, per The Athletic, that Eppler was more reluctant to take chances in trades due to the PCA transaction.
Can't complain
Go for the jugular and win both games. Braves would be 6.5 games out by Monday
+1, my thinking as well. I thought that Snitker was running scred yesterday, when he took out Anderson in the 5th inning, with The Braves 6 runs ahead, when The Mets has 2 runners on base.
(I hope I got all the facts right, they are from my memory of yesterday's game and they may not be exact.)
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They have to at least split the Scherzer/deGrom games. Otherwise the weekend is a total disaster for them. They will leave dropping 3 games if they don't at least split.
+1, my thinking as well. I thought that Snitker was running scred yesterday, when he took out Anderson in the 5th inning, with The Braves 6 runs ahead, when The Mets has 2 runners on base.
(I hope I got all the facts right, they are from my memory of yesterday's game and they may not be exact.)
That game got pretty close as well, as the Mets were a couple of small ball plays away from tying it up.
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They have to at least split the Scherzer/deGrom games. Otherwise the weekend is a total disaster for them. They will leave dropping 3 games if they don't at least split.
+1, my thinking as well. I thought that Snitker was running scred yesterday, when he took out Anderson in the 5th inning, with The Braves 6 runs ahead, when The Mets has 2 runners on base.
(I hope I got all the facts right, they are from my memory of yesterday's game and they may not be exact.)
That game got pretty close as well, as the Mets were a couple of small ball plays away from tying it up.
Yes, you're right.
Walker or Bassit might not be here next season
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Hey Eppler…fuck you.
It was Alderson, he is still calling the shots and he hasn't put a good Bullpen together ever during his hundred years with the Mets
And you know this, how? Did Sandy make to dumb fucking comments about there being a robust RP trade market after trading Holderman? No, that was Eppler.
If I had to guess, Sandy didn’t have anything to do with it. This trade deadline was a bust for Eppler, not Sandy.
He doesn’t know anything, he’s making shit up. As usual.
+1. I was thinking that too, I was very pleasantly surprised by Peterson today.
I can't help but fantasize about with Magill's return, and Peterson's rebirth, that the Mets may have two solid back end starting pitchers to go with DeGrom, Scherzer, Bassit, Walker, and Carasco. I don't think any other team in baseball has that kind of quality, quantity, and depth.
Marte
Lindor
Alonso DH
Ruf 1B
Escobar
Canha
Guillorme 2b
Nido
Our bullpen is a weakness, which hopefully will be hidden by the layoffs between games in the postseason and less need for no 4 and 5 starters
DREWCON...Its all good especially if the jETS SUCK......Thinking they made moves or did not, thinking McGill will be back....just wanted a Lefty
Drew, I share some of your thoughts and feelings about what Eppler did. At times, I feel that he may have just done enough, and added the needed condiments to the meal to make it perfect. On the other hand, I'm a little concerned about the bullpen, as I watch it give up runs this week, like today. Thank goodness, we were far enough ahead today that what we gave up was meaningless.
So far, Vogelbach, Ruff, and Naquin have produced what we've needed. If they can continue, I think that will be enough. I think the starting pitching is adequate, although I don't know if Walker is hurt. However, with Peterson pitching as well as he has, and Magill's return, we may have more than enough.
Back to the b.p. With May returning, Magill returning, and Peterson's quality performance, we may be able to use some, or all of them in relief, especially in the playoffs.
My understanding is that Eppler et al. are concerned about this team being self-sustaining, and not gutting the farm in order to win in the present.
So, I have mixed feelings about whether Eppler did enough or not. I can certainly see your point, and agree with you, at least at times.
Keith is great.
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we can just win the battle of the Max's tonight, we won the series.
+1. I was thinking that too, I was very pleasantly surprised by Peterson today.
I can't help but fantasize about with Magill's return, and Peterson's rebirth, that the Mets may have two solid back end starting pitchers to go with DeGrom, Scherzer, Bassit, Walker, and Carasco. I don't think any other team in baseball has that kind of quality, quantity, and depth.
Peterson and Megill should be useful when we need long relief.
The team in first? 4th best record in baseball? One of the highest payrolls in the game?
That’s won 14 of kat19?
That turned over 15% of their rost before the deadline? The team who started a week prior to the deadline instead o waiting till the last minute?
The team who in a battle for first has won two of the first three games?
And now has Max Freakin Sherzer going tonight and JdG tomorrow?
I’m either in the wrong year, or my expectations have been way too low. But I’m happy as a pig in shit with the way things are going.
The team in first? 4th best record in baseball? One of the highest payrolls in the game?
That’s won 14 of kat19?
That turned over 15% of their rost before the deadline? The team who started a week prior to the deadline instead o waiting till the last minute?
The team who in a battle for first has won two of the first three games?
And now has Max Freakin Sherzer going tonight and JdG tomorrow?
I’m either in the wrong year, or my expectations have been way too low. But I’m happy as a pig in shit with the way things are going.
Well, okay then.
Good for you?
struggling this season.
+1 Totally agree. How can you not love Pete?
Simple...we win the series
Even Snablats loves Pete.
He just got entrenched in his heel arc and kind find his way out.
Redemption arc incoming...!
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struggling this season.
Struggling at bunting?? Maybe...I haven't really paid attention..
But Nimmo is having a damn good year otherwise... 122 OPS+... Same oWAR rate as last year basically..
And then there are Gary, Keith, and Ronny. From the ridiculous to the sublime.
Yes we could have done more to upgrade Bp which is what I wanted too but teams were asking for alot because the knew that was the only weak spot the Mets have shown.
Everyone bitched after the PCA trade last year and still bitch about it so now, so all of a sudden our GM decides to stick to his guns and not move prospects and he's getting crushed again. you can't have it both ways people
Also like Shecky said this is the 2022 Mets, can you just enjoy this. We all know how much worse it was before this...
This appreciation is what makes us different from entitled Yankee fans.
Would be nice to get some runs here, but this one feels like it's gonna be a tense one..
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Hey Eppler…fuck you.
It was Alderson, he is still calling the shots and he hasn't put a good Bullpen together ever during his hundred years with the Mets
And you know this, how? Did Sandy make to dumb fucking comments about there being a robust RP trade market after trading Holderman? No, that was Eppler.
If I had to guess, Sandy didn’t have anything to do with it. This trade deadline was a bust for Eppler, not Sandy.
The trade deadline was Sandy's MO all the way - no action until the last minute, overpaying and crappy trades, and leaving the bullpen with holes in it
Tim Britton in the Athletic said Executives thought the Mets were spooked by Alderson's awful Baez trade last year. Alderson went on Heyman and Sherman's podcast himself and said they weren't going to trade any of the big prospects because of last year's Baez trade
Eppler wasn't here last year, so if the Mets were spooked, it has to be Alderson
It was reported last winter that no quality GM candidate wanted to even interview for the Mets job because of Alderson being there. Now we know why
your obsession has me worried about Aldersons well being...
and Diaz at the back end.
also Win or Loss this series is fucking great
:)
Also like Shecky said this is the 2022 Mets, can you just enjoy this. We all know how much worse it was before this...
This appreciation is what makes us different from entitled Yankee fans.
Oh fucking please. So glad that the negativity police are out in full force tonight. Heaven forbid anyone criticize anything about the Mets. Clearly since they are in first place…it means that every decision was the perfect one.
Here’s a novel thought…people are still able to greatly enjoy this team and season while also being able to talk about the crap decisions they make. Like, completely botching the RP market at the tradeline.
How about we stop telling people how to feel? Nobody is going overboard here.
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First you have to face Carasco, Walker and Bassit, and then, you have to face Scherzer and DeGrom... and then there are Peterson and Megill. The Mets must have the deepest pitching staff in the majors.
and Diaz at the back end.
also Win or Loss this series is fucking great
Totally agree. Great series. Really great baseball!
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Also like Shecky said this is the 2022 Mets, can you just enjoy this. We all know how much worse it was before this...
This appreciation is what makes us different from entitled Yankee fans.
Oh fucking please. So glad that the negativity police are out in full force tonight. Heaven forbid anyone criticize anything about the Mets. Clearly since they are in first place…it means that every decision was the perfect one.
Here’s a novel thought…people are still able to greatly enjoy this team and season while also being able to talk about the crap decisions they make. Like, completely botching the RP market at the tradeline.
How about we stop telling people how to feel? Nobody is going overboard here.
I had a whole reply to you typed out but its your opinion and I respect that but when does constructive criticism turn into nitpicking?
all good tho
Doubt it. Is Lugo available?
I wish Buck would take Givens out now.
Come on, now you are just nitpicking 😁
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I wish Buck would take Givens out now.
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Come on, now you are just nitpicking 😁
no he sucks
Some of the repeat offenders haven't given you a reason to trust them, lol
But if you can appreciate watching this team play, and just sit back and enjoy it?
This team has a chance to be as well remembered as the 86 squad,it’s special.
amazing.
Buck has this team tuned up man, all the right moves all the right calls. The players are amped out there.
I'm feeling it, bring on the postseason.
But if you can appreciate watching this team play, and just sit back and enjoy it?
This team has a chance to be as well remembered as the 86 squad,it’s special.
Pointing out that the bullpen could cost them in the playoffs isn't "not appreciating".
Appreciating the season for what it is is exactly why I'm annoyed they didn't do more to help the bullpen. It would be a disaster to waste this season from a 38 year old Scherzer when we knew this bullpen was suspect back in April.
The stats are deceptive. It's because of Diaz. There was an article about that.
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No one is telling anyone how to feel.
But if you can appreciate watching this team play, and just sit back and enjoy it?
This team has a chance to be as well remembered as the 86 squad,it’s special.
Pointing out that the bullpen could cost them in the playoffs isn't "not appreciating".
Appreciating the season for what it is is exactly why I'm annoyed they didn't do more to help the bullpen. It would be a disaster to waste this season from a 38 year old Scherzer when we knew this bullpen was suspect back in April.
ok so what if we got Robertson but it costed Vientos? I'm pretty sure that was the ask.
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Yet you'd think it was dead last listening to most Mets fans. Too funny.
The stats are deceptive. It's because of Diaz. There was an article about that.
Yeah not really. They've reduced down Diaz's expected performance to about a quarter of where he'll really end up. Take out every team's closer and the Mets pen would still rank pretty high by their own model. Ottavino and others have also been VERY good.
hmm...
god dam Trevor May coming in hot.
sorry for all the posts, I'm just excited AF
But if you can appreciate watching this team play, and just sit back and enjoy it?
This team has a chance to be as well remembered as the 86 squad,it’s special.
Who’s to say that I’m not sitting back and enjoying it? Because I complain about something that means I’m not enjoying it? I know that there are some here that drink the kool aide and have a difficult time accepting ANY criticism of the team (which I find incredibly odd) but it’s a sports message board and talking about the crappy stuff is okay too.
That being said - I am very much enjoying this series. And today’s doubleheader. Especially with all the barking the Braves players were doing during yesterdays game.
Loving the Faux tomahwak.
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No one is telling anyone how to feel.
But if you can appreciate watching this team play, and just sit back and enjoy it?
This team has a chance to be as well remembered as the 86 squad,it’s special.
Who’s to say that I’m not sitting back and enjoying it? Because I complain about something that means I’m not enjoying it? I know that there are some here that drink the kool aide and have a difficult time accepting ANY criticism of the team (which I find incredibly odd) but it’s a sports message board and talking about the crappy stuff is okay too.
That being said - I am very much enjoying this series. And today’s doubleheader. Especially with all the barking the Braves players were doing during yesterdays game.
The way I look at it, as Mets fans, we've been given so much to complain about over the years. Usually multiple things every year. This year has been different. No doubt, there are flaws, but I'm happy to ignore them while things are still good. There will be time to do nothing but complain soon enough
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Also like Shecky said this is the 2022 Mets, can you just enjoy this. We all know how much worse it was before this...
This appreciation is what makes us different from entitled Yankee fans.
Oh fucking please. So glad that the negativity police are out in full force tonight. Heaven forbid anyone criticize anything about the Mets. Clearly since they are in first place…it means that every decision was the perfect one.
Here’s a novel thought…people are still able to greatly enjoy this team and season while also being able to talk about the crap decisions they make. Like, completely botching the RP market at the tradeline.
How about we stop telling people how to feel? Nobody is going overboard here.
Thank you
Rory - so GKR were nitpicking when discussing, with Ottavino facing Olsen in a big spot, that the Mets have no lefty to come out of the pen in a big spot in the playoffs?
Its going to be a problem
Tomorrow would be great but not necessary
Awesome day of baseball!!
Tomorrow would be great but not necessary
Awesome day of baseball!!
+1 wonderful day of baseball. Really enjoyable.
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Series W..
Tomorrow would be great but not necessary
Awesome day of baseball!!
+1 wonderful day of baseball. Really enjoyable.
I think we've won 12 of the last 14 games.
Also, 2 words to end this day with...
Degrom tomorrow
Doesnt matter. The important thing is that Mazeika is gone.
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No one is telling anyone how to feel.
But if you can appreciate watching this team play, and just sit back and enjoy it?
This team has a chance to be as well remembered as the 86 squad,it’s special.
Who’s to say that I’m not sitting back and enjoying it? Because I complain about something that means I’m not enjoying it? I know that there are some here that drink the kool aide and have a difficult time accepting ANY criticism of the team (which I find incredibly odd) but it’s a sports message board and talking about the crappy stuff is okay too.
That being said - I am very much enjoying this series. And today’s doubleheader. Especially with all the barking the Braves players were doing during yesterdays game.
The way I look at it, as Mets fans, we've been given so much to complain about over the years. Usually multiple things every year. This year has been different. No doubt, there are flaws, but I'm happy to ignore them while things are still good. There will be time to do nothing but complain soon enough
And every fan is different. Some are complete homers unable to accept any criticism of the team, some don’t have the ability to see any good, and some are able to see the good and the bad. No team is perfect. But I’m willing to guess that EVERY fan here is enjoying this season. These threads really aren’t too bad I’ve seen people complain about something bad (Givens) and then applaud the many good things. Why some of you tend to focus only when something negative is brought up, is odd.
When I look at fangraphs, they have the Mets ranked 13th in baseball. The Braves are actually listed 2nd.
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No one is telling anyone how to feel.
But if you can appreciate watching this team play, and just sit back and enjoy it?
This team has a chance to be as well remembered as the 86 squad,it’s special.
Who’s to say that I’m not sitting back and enjoying it? Because I complain about something that means I’m not enjoying it? I know that there are some here that drink the kool aide and have a difficult time accepting ANY criticism of the team (which I find incredibly odd) but it’s a sports message board and talking about the crappy stuff is okay too.
That being said - I am very much enjoying this series. And today’s doubleheader. Especially with all the barking the Braves players were doing during yesterdays game.
The way I look at it, as Mets fans, we've been given so much to complain about over the years. Usually multiple things every year. This year has been different. No doubt, there are flaws, but I'm happy to ignore them while things are still good. There will be time to do nothing but complain soon enough
And every fan is different. Some are complete homers unable to accept any criticism of the team, some don’t have the ability to see any good, and some are able to see the good and the bad. No team is perfect. But I’m willing to guess that EVERY fan here is enjoying this season. These threads really aren’t too bad I’ve seen people complain about something bad (Givens) and then applaud the many good things. Why some of you tend to focus only when something negative is brought up, is odd.
Nice post. Thanks.
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No one is telling anyone how to feel.
But if you can appreciate watching this team play, and just sit back and enjoy it?
This team has a chance to be as well remembered as the 86 squad,it’s special.
Who’s to say that I’m not sitting back and enjoying it? Because I complain about something that means I’m not enjoying it? I know that there are some here that drink the kool aide and have a difficult time accepting ANY criticism of the team (which I find incredibly odd) but it’s a sports message board and talking about the crappy stuff is okay too.
That being said - I am very much enjoying this series. And today’s doubleheader. Especially with all the barking the Braves players were doing during yesterdays game.
The way I look at it, as Mets fans, we've been given so much to complain about over the years. Usually multiple things every year. This year has been different. No doubt, there are flaws, but I'm happy to ignore them while things are still good. There will be time to do nothing but complain soon enough
And every fan is different. Some are complete homers unable to accept any criticism of the team, some don’t have the ability to see any good, and some are able to see the good and the bad. No team is perfect. But I’m willing to guess that EVERY fan here is enjoying this season. These threads really aren’t too bad I’ve seen people complain about something bad (Givens) and then applaud the many good things. Why some of you tend to focus only when something negative is brought up, is odd.
Again, accurate
Vogelbach: .324/.477/.559
Naquin: .318/.318/.727
Ruf: .333/.333/.444
Combined (75 plate appearances):
.323/.413/.600
4 HR, 9 XBH, 12 RBI
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No one is telling anyone how to feel.
But if you can appreciate watching this team play, and just sit back and enjoy it?
This team has a chance to be as well remembered as the 86 squad,it’s special.
Who’s to say that I’m not sitting back and enjoying it? Because I complain about something that means I’m not enjoying it? I know that there are some here that drink the kool aide and have a difficult time accepting ANY criticism of the team (which I find incredibly odd) but it’s a sports message board and talking about the crappy stuff is okay too.
That being said - I am very much enjoying this series. And today’s doubleheader. Especially with all the barking the Braves players were doing during yesterdays game.
The way I look at it, as Mets fans, we've been given so much to complain about over the years. Usually multiple things every year. This year has been different. No doubt, there are flaws, but I'm happy to ignore them while things are still good. There will be time to do nothing but complain soon enough
And every fan is different. Some are complete homers unable to accept any criticism of the team, some don’t have the ability to see any good, and some are able to see the good and the bad. No team is perfect. But I’m willing to guess that EVERY fan here is enjoying this season. These threads really aren’t too bad I’ve seen people complain about something bad (Givens) and then applaud the many good things. Why some of you tend to focus only when something negative is brought up, is odd.
coop is right, try going on a Yankees thread. they love hicks, they hate hicks, they love him again, then they want him cut,.
The other night I saw someone post to cut Gerrit Cole. Like what?
Vogelbach: .324/.477/.559
Naquin: .318/.318/.727
Ruf: .333/.333/.444
Combined (75 plate appearances):
.323/.413/.600
4 HR, 9 XBH, 12 RBI
The moves weren’t sexy…but very savvy, smart moves.
Vogelbach: .324/.477/.559
Naquin: .318/.318/.727
Ruf: .333/.333/.444
Combined (75 plate appearances):
.323/.413/.600
4 HR, 9 XBH, 12 RBI
It's still a small sample at this point, but I think your point is well made. They have helped the team through this crucial series with the Braves, regardless of what they do in the future.
One of the wonderful things about baseball, is that redemption is always available. Just get a hit, drive in a run, and you're no longer a bum
When I look at fangraphs, they have the Mets ranked 13th in baseball. The Braves are actually listed 2nd.
I already posted it the other day. Where we are ranked statistically today and where we are ranked/projected to wind up are two completely different things. And FG keeps that up to date up to the second. Actuals take over for projection with each game. Its essentially a rolling forecast. Here it is again.
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coop is right, try going on a Yankees thread. they love hicks, they hate hicks, they love him again, then they want him cut,.
The other night I saw someone post to cut Gerrit Cole. Like what?
Oh, those game threads are awful. Complains about every single pitch, every player that gets a hit against them is a scrub, every pitcher that pitches well against them is a no talent hack. LOL, we are nowhere near as depressing as those threads.
Listen, I know I’m not always the most positive person here and I’m sorry that it irks some of you. I’ve taken shit about it and that’s okay. But I’ve also made plenty more positive comments. And even if some on here bicker at times (myself included) I still think you are all some pretty rad “strangers” on a message board and I enjoy the threads. Let’s keep the train moving!
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coop is right, try going on a Yankees thread. they love hicks, they hate hicks, they love him again, then they want him cut,.
The other night I saw someone post to cut Gerrit Cole. Like what?
Oh, those game threads are awful. Complains about every single pitch, every player that gets a hit against them is a scrub, every pitcher that pitches well against them is a no talent hack. LOL, we are nowhere near as depressing as those threads.
Listen, I know I’m not always the most positive person here and I’m sorry that it irks some of you. I’ve taken shit about it and that’s okay. But I’ve also made plenty more positive comments. And even if some on here bicker at times (myself included) I still think you are all some pretty rad “strangers” on a message board and I enjoy the threads. Let’s keep the train moving!
Cooper. I've noticed a difference in your posts in the last week or two. I'm really enjoying them now, especially the last one you posted. I thought it was very insightful.
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I’m curious to know what stats you are using that show that the Mets BP is second in the majors. Sure doesn’t feel like that.
When I look at fangraphs, they have the Mets ranked 13th in baseball. The Braves are actually listed 2nd.
I already posted it the other day. Where we are ranked statistically today and where we are ranked/projected to wind up are two completely different things. And FG keeps that up to date up to the second. Actuals take over for projection with each game. Its essentially a rolling forecast. Here it is again. Link - ( New Window )
So, we are ranked 13th as of today but we are “projected” to end up ranked 2nd by the end of the season? Do I have that right?
It gets complicated when you start guessing why everyone is reduced down so much, but thats just how they do it.
+1. Me too re holding my breath until he pitches a few games without injury.
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Until he gets a few games under his belt. Looking forward to a huge encore from his first game back tomorrow.
+1. Me too re holding my breath until he pitches a few games without injury.
My q is Who is picking up his innings tomorrow, I’m assuming he goes 75 pitches but that’s like the 5th if all goes well.
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Until he gets a few games under his belt. Looking forward to a huge encore from his first game back tomorrow.
+1. Me too re holding my breath until he pitches a few games without injury.
My q is Who is picking up his innings tomorrow, I’m assuming he goes 75 pitches but that’s like the 5th if all goes well.
It's gotta be Joely and Medina.
Even Snablats loves Pete.
He just got entrenched in his heel arc and kind find his way out.
Redemption arc incoming...!
He doesn’t love Pete - according to him, Pete is “below average” defensively. But that’s based on his own “eye test”; nevermind the objective metrics that say otherwise.
🙄🙄🙄
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Until he gets a few games under his belt. Looking forward to a huge encore from his first game back tomorrow.
+1. Me too re holding my breath until he pitches a few games without injury.
My q is Who is picking up his innings tomorrow, I’m assuming he goes 75 pitches but that’s like the 5th if all goes well.
It's gotta be Joely and Medina.
Unfortunately there is no one else.
I hate to piss away a degrom start, but there is no one else to bridge the 9th (with a lead of course)
Vogelbach: .324/.477/.559
Naquin: .318/.318/.727
Ruf: .333/.333/.444
Combined (75 plate appearances):
.323/.413/.600
4 HR, 9 XBH, 12 RBI
Dom Smith & J.D. Davis, in a combined 124 games and 359 plate appearances: 4 HR, 25 XBH, 38 RBI. They have almost a third of the RBI in 21% of the plate appearances so far, and just as many HRs. LOL. Glad that is over with.
mine tastes especially good today.
Which month??
Mets pitchers over the last 28 days have a 2.94 ERA and 1.139 WHIP...and that includes Walkers implosion
Offense has been good but the pitching has also been outstanding
unsung hero of the season so far. 14 starts, 6-2 record, 3.3 era, 4.0 fip, 3.5 xfip.
and that's all skewed up by his relief work. As a starter his ERA is 3.17.
unsung hero of the season so far. 14 starts, 6-2 record, 3.3 era, 4.0 fip, 3.5 xfip.
and that's all skewed up by his relief work. As a starter his ERA is 3.17.
I was going to say what about the work of Trevor Williams who has constantly been shuttled between rotation and bullpen and not received consistent work.
2006 still seems like a vivid memory, but man, that is 16 years ago. my older kids were 3 and my youngest (15 years old) not even born yet. in those terms it seems like a lifetime ago.
this team has accomplished nothing yet, but I know I'm going to savor this, while also hoping *this time* they get it right and build some sustained success. One to three years competing with 7 - 10 not, is frustrating and tiring.
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forget about next year he's making a case to not be taking out of the rotation this year. if they really want to give JDG extra rest they may want to go to a 6 man. or maybe just skip Walker a turn to keep him fresh.
unsung hero of the season so far. 14 starts, 6-2 record, 3.3 era, 4.0 fip, 3.5 xfip.
and that's all skewed up by his relief work. As a starter his ERA is 3.17.
I was going to say what about the work of Trevor Williams who has constantly been shuttled between rotation and bullpen and not received consistent work.
Tricky part is we need to keep Max on normal rest...he blames extra rest and not enough pitching for his weak playoff performance
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are 30 games over .500 for the first time since 2006.
2006 still seems like a vivid memory, but man, that is 16 years ago. my older kids were 3 and my youngest (15 years old) not even born yet. in those terms it seems like a lifetime ago.
this team has accomplished nothing yet, but I know I'm going to savor this, while also hoping *this time* they get it right and build some sustained success. One to three years competing with 7 - 10 not, is frustrating and tiring.
Vivid is one word for it I guess..lol
Crazy thing is Wainwright is still a very good starting pitcher even 16 years later...what a career
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forget about next year he's making a case to not be taking out of the rotation this year. if they really want to give JDG extra rest they may want to go to a 6 man. or maybe just skip Walker a turn to keep him fresh.
unsung hero of the season so far. 14 starts, 6-2 record, 3.3 era, 4.0 fip, 3.5 xfip.
and that's all skewed up by his relief work. As a starter his ERA is 3.17.
I was going to say what about the work of Trevor Williams who has constantly been shuttled between rotation and bullpen and not received consistent work.
he's also been really solid and that role is even tougher.
62 innings (8 starts, 12 relief appearances) - 3.16 era, 4.02 fip, 3.98 xfip.
it's ironic that some think it would have been good value to trade one of this years top 5 prospects for a reliever after bagging the PCA trade that brought in baez plus 1.5 years of williams for a non-top5 prospect.
the only move from the deadline i really question is passing on Jorge Lopez. that one i just dont get at all. they were connected to him ahead of the deadline, he has 2 more years of control and the price was 2 borderline top 20 minnesota prospects (1 a 28 year old career minor league reliever). Povich is a 22 year old in A+ so if the price here was Hamel or Santos plus Drew Smith or Nogosek (or both) I'd have had done that.
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forget about next year he's making a case to not be taking out of the rotation this year. if they really want to give JDG extra rest they may want to go to a 6 man. or maybe just skip Walker a turn to keep him fresh.
unsung hero of the season so far. 14 starts, 6-2 record, 3.3 era, 4.0 fip, 3.5 xfip.
and that's all skewed up by his relief work. As a starter his ERA is 3.17.
I was going to say what about the work of Trevor Williams who has constantly been shuttled between rotation and bullpen and not received consistent work.
Tricky part is we need to keep Max on normal rest...he blames extra rest and not enough pitching for his weak playoff performance
i think you can keep Max on schedule and move everyone else around him. Walker and JDG are the 2 who may make sense for some extra rest (especially given Walker's last outing, he may make sense to skip a turn).
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are 30 games over .500 for the first time since 2006.
2006 still seems like a vivid memory, but man, that is 16 years ago. my older kids were 3 and my youngest (15 years old) not even born yet. in those terms it seems like a lifetime ago.
this team has accomplished nothing yet, but I know I'm going to savor this, while also hoping *this time* they get it right and build some sustained success. One to three years competing with 7 - 10 not, is frustrating and tiring.
the 06 team isn't the worst comp and that group did have a decent 3 year run with 88+ wins each year. the core of beltran, wright, reyes, delgado was solid the problem was all the depth moves tanked.
the offseason and deadline moves give me a lot of confidence eppler won't make that mistake with the lineup and the talent coming through the system is much better, though i do think the bp is way too diaz dependent (not unlike those teams were too wagner dependent).
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are 30 games over .500 for the first time since 2006.
2006 still seems like a vivid memory, but man, that is 16 years ago. my older kids were 3 and my youngest (15 years old) not even born yet. in those terms it seems like a lifetime ago.
this team has accomplished nothing yet, but I know I'm going to savor this, while also hoping *this time* they get it right and build some sustained success. One to three years competing with 7 - 10 not, is frustrating and tiring.
the 06 team isn't the worst comp and that group did have a decent 3 year run with 88+ wins each year. the core of beltran, wright, reyes, delgado was solid the problem was all the depth moves tanked.
the offseason and deadline moves give me a lot of confidence eppler won't make that mistake with the lineup and the talent coming through the system is much better, though i do think the bp is way too diaz dependent (not unlike those teams were too wagner dependent).
Otto and Heilman are actually a pretty good comp..never thought of that ..lol
The Duaner injury doomed that team..threw off all the depth since they had to trade Nady. But Ollie was pretty solid so always hard to envision the what if..
Lugo and May are the key for us...of they can pitch like they are capable, the bullpen can be a strength, not a liability.
May looked good last night. I think he approaches that Contreras ab differently if the game is tighter.
it wasnt far off - clippard when acquired had been oakland's closer so he was more like adding robertson would have been.
blevins and his re-injury when they were expecting to get him back was as big as duaner's injury. when healthy over his met career he was as good as otto/lugo this year.
in 2015 they also picked up reed/oflaherty in waivers deals, so they were more aggressive adding depth. robles was very drew smithy/trevor may.
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Until he gets a few games under his belt. Looking forward to a huge encore from his first game back tomorrow.
+1. Me too re holding my breath until he pitches a few games without injury.
My q is Who is picking up his innings tomorrow, I’m assuming he goes 75 pitches but that’s like the 5th if all goes well.
It's gotta be Joely and Medina.
Unfortunately there is no one else.
I hate to piss away a degrom start, but there is no one else to bridge the 9th (with a lead of course)
Could ottavino go in situationally? Maybe we see Ngosek too? I don’t want degrom going over 70 pitches today regardless of the lead.
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Until he gets a few games under his belt. Looking forward to a huge encore from his first game back tomorrow.
+1. Me too re holding my breath until he pitches a few games without injury.
My q is Who is picking up his innings tomorrow, I’m assuming he goes 75 pitches but that’s like the 5th if all goes well.
It's gotta be Joely and Medina.
Unfortunately there is no one else.
I hate to piss away a degrom start, but there is no one else to bridge the 9th (with a lead of course)
Could ottavino go in situationally? Maybe we see Ngosek too? I don’t want degrom going over 70 pitches today regardless of the lead.
He threw 31 pitches yesterday, so not sure if he's available today. I suppose it's possible he could go in to get a batter or two if needed. Yeah, I don't see degrom going more than 5 innings. Hopefully they score 10 runs today and don't have to worry who closes out the game!
May threw 16 and had 2 days off prior so id think he will be ok.
Diaz only threw 7 pitches so i'd think he's ok too since he had friday off.
givens threw 2 days in a row so id imagine he's out.
so maybe the plan is JDG goes 5, joely/medina 6/7, May 8, Diaz 9.
if there's a blowout either way joely and medina will eat a lot innings. medina last pitched 8/2 and he threw 2.2 innings.
May threw 16 and had 2 days off prior so id think he will be ok.
Diaz only threw 7 pitches so i'd think he's ok too since he had friday off.
givens threw 2 days in a row so id imagine he's out.
so maybe the plan is JDG goes 5, joely/medina 6/7, May 8, Diaz 9.
if there's a blowout either way joely and medina will eat a lot innings. medina last pitched 8/2 and he threw 2.2 innings.
Makes sense Eric. We all hope though that the Mets' tradition of scoring 1 or no runs for deGrom does NOT continue today though, lol.
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Edwin Díaz becomes the 1st pitcher since at least 1901 during any 25-G span to allow 1 R or less, have 50+ K, and allow 3 BB or fewer.
He has struck out 54 of the 92 batters he has faced over this stretch (58.7%) ‼️
Historically Impressive 🔥
That sends Walker/Peterson/Megill to the BP. On paper that shores things up quite a bit. I know all SP's don't adapt to the Pen great, but like I said on paper things may look much better than they do now for the Pen. Thoughts
Yes Eric, they should have traded a Vientos for a good lefty reliever. Just because Alderson made a really bad trade last year for Baez didnt mean they couldnt make a good trade this year for the one piece they needed
That sends Walker/Peterson/Megill to the BP. On paper that shores things up quite a bit. I know all SP's don't adapt to the Pen great, but like I said on paper things may look much better than they do now for the Pen. Thoughts
Definitely the Mets plan and explains why they kept their prospects and did not go all in on relievers at the deadline.
But the problem is Megill is injured. DP is still needed as a 6th starter (because of how the schedule falls out) and Walker might be hitting a wall.
Also, despite Mets great record, they still have to fight for the division because of the Braves. So they don't have the luxury of experimenting with these guys in the pen.
Gary even commented that they had never seen DP throw that hard.
Might be because of the extra rest. But he is a different pitcher when he throws that hard. Braves have some big RH bats and DP handled them nicely.
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At Citi Field today for deGrom's home debut. Sun has reappeared, game will start at 4:30. One note of interest as deGrom makes his 200th career start: MLB record for most K's in 200 starts is You Darvish at 1,517. At 1,511 deGrom needs seven K's to surpass that total.
He did not look healthy at all yesterday…
Cohen does everything right !
Now stay healthy !!