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PakistanPete : 8/6/2022 1:57 pm
D. Peterson vs. J. Odorizzi

Nimmo
Marte
Lindor
Alonso
Vogelbach
McNeil
Naquin
Guillorme
McCann

Acuna Jr.
Swanson
Riley
Olson
d'Arnaud
Grossman
Contreras
Arcia
Harris II

Tonight is battle of the Maxs: Fried vs. Scherzer

Mets up 2-0 with Guillorme and McCann on base as I post this.
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Gm 2 lineup  
spike : 8/6/2022 6:31 pm : link
Nimmo
Marte
Lindor
Alonso DH
Ruf 1B
Escobar
Canha
Guillorme 2b
Nido
I’m one of the few, probably only one  
Drewcon40 : 8/6/2022 6:33 pm : link
who doesn’t mind how Eppler handled the trading deadline. I don’t know who other teams asked for and I’m sure he wanted Chaffin and other higher rated arms. Vogelbach, Ruf, Tyler Naquin and Mychal Givens were not the names we expected but am cautiously optimistic this team can win and still have some internal options for the next few years. It’s an unpopular take but I hope one or two others share the excitement for the fall.
Our bench is very strong  
spike : 8/6/2022 6:37 pm : link
A big bump from the days of JDD and Dom.

Our bullpen is a weakness, which hopefully will be hidden by the layoffs between games in the postseason and less need for no 4 and 5 starters
RE: I’m one of the few, probably only one  
HewlettGiant : 8/6/2022 6:42 pm : link
In comment 15773444 Drewcon40 said:
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who doesn’t mind how Eppler handled the trading deadline. I don’t know who other teams asked for and I’m sure he wanted Chaffin and other higher rated arms. Vogelbach, Ruf, Tyler Naquin and Mychal Givens were not the names we expected but am cautiously optimistic this team can win and still have some internal options for the next few years. It’s an unpopular take but I hope one or two others share the excitement for the fall.


DREWCON...Its all good especially if the jETS SUCK......Thinking they made moves or did not, thinking McGill will be back....just wanted a Lefty
RE: I’m one of the few, probably only one  
Dennis : 8/6/2022 6:50 pm : link
In comment 15773444 Drewcon40 said:
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who doesn’t mind how Eppler handled the trading deadline. I don’t know who other teams asked for and I’m sure he wanted Chaffin and other higher rated arms. Vogelbach, Ruf, Tyler Naquin and Mychal Givens were not the names we expected but am cautiously optimistic this team can win and still have some internal options for the next few years. It’s an unpopular take but I hope one or two others share the excitement for the fall.


Drew, I share some of your thoughts and feelings about what Eppler did. At times, I feel that he may have just done enough, and added the needed condiments to the meal to make it perfect. On the other hand, I'm a little concerned about the bullpen, as I watch it give up runs this week, like today. Thank goodness, we were far enough ahead today that what we gave up was meaningless.

So far, Vogelbach, Ruff, and Naquin have produced what we've needed. If they can continue, I think that will be enough. I think the starting pitching is adequate, although I don't know if Walker is hurt. However, with Peterson pitching as well as he has, and Magill's return, we may have more than enough.

Back to the b.p. With May returning, Magill returning, and Peterson's quality performance, we may be able to use some, or all of them in relief, especially in the playoffs.

My understanding is that Eppler et al. are concerned about this team being self-sustaining, and not gutting the farm in order to win in the present.

So, I have mixed feelings about whether Eppler did enough or not. I can certainly see your point, and agree with you, at least at times.
Sore  
PakistanPete : 8/6/2022 7:24 pm : link
from getting hit in the ass in the first game.

Keith is great.
RE: RE: I was pleasantly surprised by Peterson's performance today. Now, if  
Ira : 8/6/2022 7:24 pm : link
In comment 15773426 Dennis said:
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we can just win the battle of the Max's tonight, we won the series.



+1. I was thinking that too, I was very pleasantly surprised by Peterson today.
I can't help but fantasize about with Magill's return, and Peterson's rebirth, that the Mets may have two solid back end starting pitchers to go with DeGrom, Scherzer, Bassit, Walker, and Carasco. I don't think any other team in baseball has that kind of quality, quantity, and depth.


Peterson and Megill should be useful when we need long relief.
Negativity check  
Shecky : 8/6/2022 7:35 pm : link
Just making sure I’m in the right timeline here. This the 2022 Mets everyone’s upset with?

The team in first? 4th best record in baseball? One of the highest payrolls in the game?
That’s won 14 of kat19?
That turned over 15% of their rost before the deadline? The team who started a week prior to the deadline instead o waiting till the last minute?
The team who in a battle for first has won two of the first three games?
And now has Max Freakin Sherzer going tonight and JdG tomorrow?

I’m either in the wrong year, or my expectations have been way too low. But I’m happy as a pig in shit with the way things are going.
No one is complaining that the team isn't good.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/6/2022 7:50 pm : link
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Surprised the ballpark isn’t packed tonight  
Metnut : 8/6/2022 7:53 pm : link
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Why the hell is Nimmo bunting?  
Metnut : 8/6/2022 7:56 pm : link
Wtf
RE: Negativity check  
CooperDash : 8/6/2022 7:57 pm : link
In comment 15773482 Shecky said:
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Just making sure I’m in the right timeline here. This the 2022 Mets everyone’s upset with?

The team in first? 4th best record in baseball? One of the highest payrolls in the game?
That’s won 14 of kat19?
That turned over 15% of their rost before the deadline? The team who started a week prior to the deadline instead o waiting till the last minute?
The team who in a battle for first has won two of the first three games?
And now has Max Freakin Sherzer going tonight and JdG tomorrow?

I’m either in the wrong year, or my expectations have been way too low. But I’m happy as a pig in shit with the way things are going.


Well, okay then.

Good for you?
RE: Why the hell is Nimmo bunting?  
spike : 8/6/2022 7:59 pm : link
In comment 15773498 Metnut said:
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Wtf


struggling this season.
Pete  
spike : 8/6/2022 8:02 pm : link
has to be in the NL MVP conversation
RE: Pete  
Dennis : 8/6/2022 8:06 pm : link
In comment 15773503 spike said:
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has to be in the NL MVP conversation


+1 Totally agree. How can you not love Pete?
Max needs to go 8 for us  
HewlettGiant : 8/6/2022 8:18 pm : link
Diaz threw 7 pitchers earlier today.
Simple...we win the series
Watch Fried shut us down the rest of the game  
CooperDash : 8/6/2022 8:22 pm : link
after doing his best LeBron impression after he fell down, lol.
Everybody  
PakistanPete : 8/6/2022 8:22 pm : link
loves Pete.

Even Snablats loves Pete.

He just got entrenched in his heel arc and kind find his way out.

Redemption arc incoming...!
RE: RE: Why the hell is Nimmo bunting?  
moze1021 : 8/6/2022 8:24 pm : link
In comment 15773501 spike said:
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Wtf



struggling this season.


Struggling at bunting?? Maybe...I haven't really paid attention..

But Nimmo is having a damn good year otherwise... 122 OPS+... Same oWAR rate as last year basically..

can't also  
PakistanPete : 8/6/2022 8:24 pm : link
:P
This Team! They do it all.  
Dennis : 8/6/2022 8:34 pm : link
And they're smart too. Good team.
Sick...  
ZGiants98 : 8/6/2022 8:35 pm : link
Mad Max baby.
What a horror the Mets are for other teams:  
Dennis : 8/6/2022 8:52 pm : link
First you have to face Carasco, Walker and Bassit, and then, you have to face Scherzer and DeGrom... and then there are Peterson and Megill. The Mets must have the deepest pitching staff in the majors.
RE: What a horror the Mets are for other teams:  
Dennis : 8/6/2022 8:54 pm : link
In comment 15773530 Dennis said:
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First you have to face Carasco, Walker and Bassit, and then, you have to face Scherzer and DeGrom... and then there are Peterson and Megill. The Mets must have the deepest pitching staff in the majors.


And then there are Gary, Keith, and Ronny. From the ridiculous to the sublime.
i dont know how you can  
Rory : 8/6/2022 8:57 pm : link
be so upset with Eppler, so far the 3 bats he brought in have been critical pieces in scoring runs in games we have won in important series.

Yes we could have done more to upgrade Bp which is what I wanted too but teams were asking for alot because the knew that was the only weak spot the Mets have shown.

Everyone bitched after the PCA trade last year and still bitch about it so now, so all of a sudden our GM decides to stick to his guns and not move prospects and he's getting crushed again. you can't have it both ways people

Also like Shecky said this is the 2022 Mets, can you just enjoy this. We all know how much worse it was before this...

This appreciation is what makes us different from entitled Yankee fans.
That Riley AB  
moze1021 : 8/6/2022 8:57 pm : link
Was pretty huge for the Braves... Forcing Max to throw 10 pitches there .. I suppose he will come out for the 7th but will be on short leash if so...

Would be nice to get some runs here, but this one feels like it's gonna be a tense one..
Riley  
spike : 8/6/2022 9:01 pm : link
is the new Freeman.
Need mcneil  
spike : 8/6/2022 9:06 pm : link
to pinch hit for Guillerme here
RE: RE: RE: RE: This BP is unbelievably bad.  
Rory : 8/6/2022 9:07 pm : link
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Hey Eppler…fuck you.


It was Alderson, he is still calling the shots and he hasn't put a good Bullpen together ever during his hundred years with the Mets



And you know this, how? Did Sandy make to dumb fucking comments about there being a robust RP trade market after trading Holderman? No, that was Eppler.

If I had to guess, Sandy didn’t have anything to do with it. This trade deadline was a bust for Eppler, not Sandy.


The trade deadline was Sandy's MO all the way - no action until the last minute, overpaying and crappy trades, and leaving the bullpen with holes in it

Tim Britton in the Athletic said Executives thought the Mets were spooked by Alderson's awful Baez trade last year. Alderson went on Heyman and Sherman's podcast himself and said they weren't going to trade any of the big prospects because of last year's Baez trade

Eppler wasn't here last year, so if the Mets were spooked, it has to be Alderson

It was reported last winter that no quality GM candidate wanted to even interview for the Mets job because of Alderson being there. Now we know why


your obsession has me worried about Aldersons well being...
RE: What a horror the Mets are for other teams:  
Rory : 8/6/2022 9:09 pm : link
In comment 15773530 Dennis said:
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First you have to face Carasco, Walker and Bassit, and then, you have to face Scherzer and DeGrom... and then there are Peterson and Megill. The Mets must have the deepest pitching staff in the majors.


and Diaz at the back end.

also Win or Loss this series is fucking great
Suck it  
PakistanPete : 8/6/2022 9:09 pm : link
Braves
RE: Suck it  
Rory : 8/6/2022 9:10 pm : link
In comment 15773543 PakistanPete said:
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Braves


:)
Wow!  
Dennis : 8/6/2022 9:10 pm : link
Overturned!
RE: i dont know how you can  
CooperDash : 8/6/2022 9:11 pm : link
In comment 15773533 Rory said:
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Also like Shecky said this is the 2022 Mets, can you just enjoy this. We all know how much worse it was before this...

This appreciation is what makes us different from entitled Yankee fans.


Oh fucking please. So glad that the negativity police are out in full force tonight. Heaven forbid anyone criticize anything about the Mets. Clearly since they are in first place…it means that every decision was the perfect one.

Here’s a novel thought…people are still able to greatly enjoy this team and season while also being able to talk about the crap decisions they make. Like, completely botching the RP market at the tradeline.

How about we stop telling people how to feel? Nobody is going overboard here.
RE: RE: What a horror the Mets are for other teams:  
Dennis : 8/6/2022 9:11 pm : link
In comment 15773542 Rory said:
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In comment 15773530 Dennis said:


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First you have to face Carasco, Walker and Bassit, and then, you have to face Scherzer and DeGrom... and then there are Peterson and Megill. The Mets must have the deepest pitching staff in the majors.



and Diaz at the back end.

also Win or Loss this series is fucking great


Totally agree. Great series. Really great baseball!
Maximus!  
ZGiants98 : 8/6/2022 9:19 pm : link
Incredible.
struck out the side  
spike : 8/6/2022 9:21 pm : link
to end his night. Hall of fame performance
The Mets have a tradition of great starting pitching. Max is one of  
Ira : 8/6/2022 9:22 pm : link
the best.
RE: RE: i dont know how you can  
Rory : 8/6/2022 9:22 pm : link
In comment 15773548 CooperDash said:
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Also like Shecky said this is the 2022 Mets, can you just enjoy this. We all know how much worse it was before this...

This appreciation is what makes us different from entitled Yankee fans.



Oh fucking please. So glad that the negativity police are out in full force tonight. Heaven forbid anyone criticize anything about the Mets. Clearly since they are in first place…it means that every decision was the perfect one.

Here’s a novel thought…people are still able to greatly enjoy this team and season while also being able to talk about the crap decisions they make. Like, completely botching the RP market at the tradeline.

How about we stop telling people how to feel? Nobody is going overboard here.


I had a whole reply to you typed out but its your opinion and I respect that but when does constructive criticism turn into nitpicking?

all good tho
so is he coming back out for the 8th?  
Rory : 8/6/2022 9:24 pm : link
I assume May in the 9th.
I sometimes forget how much I love baseball  
Dennis : 8/6/2022 9:25 pm : link
...And then a series likes this reminds me of how much I love baseball.
RE: so is he coming back out for the 8th?  
spike : 8/6/2022 9:27 pm : link
In comment 15773556 Rory said:
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I assume May in the 9th.


Doubt it. Is Lugo available?
or  
spike : 8/6/2022 9:28 pm : link
Givens in the 8th
its Givens,  
Rory : 8/6/2022 9:31 pm : link
would really like to see a nice showing from him tonight.
Uh, Givens.  
Dennis : 8/6/2022 9:43 pm : link
Not good.
Givens stinks  
bhill410 : 8/6/2022 9:44 pm : link
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RE: Uh, Givens.  
Dennis : 8/6/2022 9:45 pm : link
In comment 15773571 Dennis said:
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Not good.

I wish Buck would take Givens out now.
RE: Givens stinks  
CooperDash : 8/6/2022 9:47 pm : link
In comment 15773572 bhill410 said:
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Come on, now you are just nitpicking 😁
RE: RE: Uh, Givens.  
Gmanfandan : 8/6/2022 9:48 pm : link
In comment 15773574 Dennis said:
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Not good.


I wish Buck would take Givens out now.
Yeah - I guess he's in there to pitch to Riley if it gets that far.
I admit it, I'm a coward.  
Dennis : 8/6/2022 9:52 pm : link
Certain Mets pitchers some in, and I want to go and hide, or cry, or suck my thumb. I can barely watch.
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