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PakistanPete : 8/6/2022 1:57 pm
D. Peterson vs. J. Odorizzi

Nimmo
Marte
Lindor
Alonso
Vogelbach
McNeil
Naquin
Guillorme
McCann

Acuna Jr.
Swanson
Riley
Olson
d'Arnaud
Grossman
Contreras
Arcia
Harris II

Tonight is battle of the Maxs: Fried vs. Scherzer

Mets up 2-0 with Guillorme and McCann on base as I post this.
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RE: RE: Givens stinks  
Rory : 8/6/2022 9:53 pm : link
In comment 15773575 CooperDash said:
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Come on, now you are just nitpicking 😁


no he sucks
hey look, Escobar is playing  
Rory : 8/6/2022 9:54 pm : link
well again.
Can Givens  
spike : 8/6/2022 9:54 pm : link
go to AAA to get some pitching in
Well done, Escobar  
CooperDash : 8/6/2022 9:54 pm : link
Well done
RE: I admit it, I'm a coward.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/6/2022 9:54 pm : link
In comment 15773580 Dennis said:
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Certain Mets pitchers some in, and I want to go and hide, or cry, or suck my thumb. I can barely watch.


Some of the repeat offenders haven't given you a reason to trust them, lol
Coop  
Shecky : 8/6/2022 9:56 pm : link
No one is telling anyone how to feel.
But if you can appreciate watching this team play, and just sit back and enjoy it?
This team has a chance to be as well remembered as the 86 squad,it’s special.
Slapping that  
PakistanPete : 8/6/2022 9:56 pm : link
Naquin, Vogelbach, and Ruff have been  
Dennis : 8/6/2022 9:58 pm : link
Everything I would have hoped for, so far. No complaints about them from me.
Happy to see  
spike : 8/6/2022 9:58 pm : link
our offense is awake for this series. Please continue tomorrow for Degrom's start
The Mets have the second best bullpen in baseball per FG  
ZGiants98 : 8/6/2022 9:59 pm : link
Yet you'd think it was dead last listening to most Mets fans. Too funny.
RE: Slapping that  
Rory : 8/6/2022 9:59 pm : link
In comment 15773587 PakistanPete said:
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amazing.

Buck has this team tuned up man, all the right moves all the right calls. The players are amped out there.

I'm feeling it, bring on the postseason.
RE: Coop  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/6/2022 10:01 pm : link
In comment 15773586 Shecky said:
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No one is telling anyone how to feel.
But if you can appreciate watching this team play, and just sit back and enjoy it?
This team has a chance to be as well remembered as the 86 squad,it’s special.


Pointing out that the bullpen could cost them in the playoffs isn't "not appreciating".

Appreciating the season for what it is is exactly why I'm annoyed they didn't do more to help the bullpen. It would be a disaster to waste this season from a 38 year old Scherzer when we knew this bullpen was suspect back in April.
RE: The Mets have the second best bullpen in baseball per FG  
Dennis : 8/6/2022 10:01 pm : link
In comment 15773593 ZGiants98 said:
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Yet you'd think it was dead last listening to most Mets fans. Too funny.


The stats are deceptive. It's because of Diaz. There was an article about that.
RE: RE: Coop  
Rory : 8/6/2022 10:02 pm : link
In comment 15773595 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 15773586 Shecky said:


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No one is telling anyone how to feel.
But if you can appreciate watching this team play, and just sit back and enjoy it?
This team has a chance to be as well remembered as the 86 squad,it’s special.



Pointing out that the bullpen could cost them in the playoffs isn't "not appreciating".

Appreciating the season for what it is is exactly why I'm annoyed they didn't do more to help the bullpen. It would be a disaster to waste this season from a 38 year old Scherzer when we knew this bullpen was suspect back in April.


ok so what if we got Robertson but it costed Vientos? I'm pretty sure that was the ask.
Familia is available  
spike : 8/6/2022 10:03 pm : link
might be an upgrade to some of these middle relievers.
RE: RE: The Mets have the second best bullpen in baseball per FG  
ZGiants98 : 8/6/2022 10:06 pm : link
In comment 15773596 Dennis said:
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In comment 15773593 ZGiants98 said:


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Yet you'd think it was dead last listening to most Mets fans. Too funny.



The stats are deceptive. It's because of Diaz. There was an article about that.


Yeah not really. They've reduced down Diaz's expected performance to about a quarter of where he'll really end up. Take out every team's closer and the Mets pen would still rank pretty high by their own model. Ottavino and others have also been VERY good.
RE: Familia is available  
Rory : 8/6/2022 10:06 pm : link
In comment 15773598 spike said:
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might be an upgrade to some of these middle relievers.


hmm...

god dam Trevor May coming in hot.

sorry for all the posts, I'm just excited AF
RE: Coop  
CooperDash : 8/6/2022 10:09 pm : link
In comment 15773586 Shecky said:
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No one is telling anyone how to feel.
But if you can appreciate watching this team play, and just sit back and enjoy it?
This team has a chance to be as well remembered as the 86 squad,it’s special.


Who’s to say that I’m not sitting back and enjoying it? Because I complain about something that means I’m not enjoying it? I know that there are some here that drink the kool aide and have a difficult time accepting ANY criticism of the team (which I find incredibly odd) but it’s a sports message board and talking about the crappy stuff is okay too.

That being said - I am very much enjoying this series. And today’s doubleheader. Especially with all the barking the Braves players were doing during yesterdays game.
Oh  
PakistanPete : 8/6/2022 10:11 pm : link
I wish I was there.

Loving the Faux tomahwak.
RE: RE: Coop  
JayBinQueens : 8/6/2022 10:12 pm : link
In comment 15773602 CooperDash said:
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In comment 15773586 Shecky said:


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No one is telling anyone how to feel.
But if you can appreciate watching this team play, and just sit back and enjoy it?
This team has a chance to be as well remembered as the 86 squad,it’s special.



Who’s to say that I’m not sitting back and enjoying it? Because I complain about something that means I’m not enjoying it? I know that there are some here that drink the kool aide and have a difficult time accepting ANY criticism of the team (which I find incredibly odd) but it’s a sports message board and talking about the crappy stuff is okay too.

That being said - I am very much enjoying this series. And today’s doubleheader. Especially with all the barking the Braves players were doing during yesterdays game.


The way I look at it, as Mets fans, we've been given so much to complain about over the years. Usually multiple things every year. This year has been different. No doubt, there are flaws, but I'm happy to ignore them while things are still good. There will be time to do nothing but complain soon enough
Which team do you think was better,  
Dennis : 8/6/2022 10:12 pm : link
this team or the 86 team?
RE: RE: i dont know how you can  
Snablats : 8/6/2022 10:13 pm : link
In comment 15773548 CooperDash said:
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Also like Shecky said this is the 2022 Mets, can you just enjoy this. We all know how much worse it was before this...

This appreciation is what makes us different from entitled Yankee fans.



Oh fucking please. So glad that the negativity police are out in full force tonight. Heaven forbid anyone criticize anything about the Mets. Clearly since they are in first place…it means that every decision was the perfect one.

Here’s a novel thought…people are still able to greatly enjoy this team and season while also being able to talk about the crap decisions they make. Like, completely botching the RP market at the tradeline.

How about we stop telling people how to feel? Nobody is going overboard here.

Thank you

Rory - so GKR were nitpicking when discussing, with Ottavino facing Olsen in a big spot, that the Mets have no lefty to come out of the pen in a big spot in the playoffs?

Its going to be a problem
Books bitches  
ZGiants98 : 8/6/2022 10:13 pm : link
Another series win against the "juggernaut" Braves.
Let's goo!!!  
moze1021 : 8/6/2022 10:13 pm : link
Series W..

Tomorrow would be great but not necessary

Awesome day of baseball!!
Yeah boys  
PakistanPete : 8/6/2022 10:14 pm : link
!
RE: Let's goo!!!  
Dennis : 8/6/2022 10:15 pm : link
In comment 15773611 moze1021 said:
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Series W..

Tomorrow would be great but not necessary

Awesome day of baseball!!

+1 wonderful day of baseball. Really enjoyable.
Thanks for a great day!  
spike : 8/6/2022 10:16 pm : link
Nido has become the better catcher of the team right now
RE: RE: Let's goo!!!  
Dennis : 8/6/2022 10:17 pm : link
In comment 15773613 Dennis said:
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In comment 15773611 moze1021 said:


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Series W..

Tomorrow would be great but not necessary

Awesome day of baseball!!


+1 wonderful day of baseball. Really enjoyable.


I think we've won 12 of the last 14 games.
fuck yea  
Rory : 8/6/2022 10:17 pm : link
what a great god dam day. rocking my NYM hat at the gym tomorrow, for fucking sure.

Also, 2 words to end this day with...

Degrom tomorrow
RE: Thanks for a great day!  
ZGiants98 : 8/6/2022 10:17 pm : link
In comment 15773614 spike said:
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Nido has become the better catcher of the team right now


Doesnt matter. The important thing is that Mazeika is gone.
RE: RE: RE: Coop  
CooperDash : 8/6/2022 10:19 pm : link
In comment 15773607 JayBinQueens said:
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In comment 15773602 CooperDash said:


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In comment 15773586 Shecky said:


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No one is telling anyone how to feel.
But if you can appreciate watching this team play, and just sit back and enjoy it?
This team has a chance to be as well remembered as the 86 squad,it’s special.



Who’s to say that I’m not sitting back and enjoying it? Because I complain about something that means I’m not enjoying it? I know that there are some here that drink the kool aide and have a difficult time accepting ANY criticism of the team (which I find incredibly odd) but it’s a sports message board and talking about the crappy stuff is okay too.

That being said - I am very much enjoying this series. And today’s doubleheader. Especially with all the barking the Braves players were doing during yesterdays game.



The way I look at it, as Mets fans, we've been given so much to complain about over the years. Usually multiple things every year. This year has been different. No doubt, there are flaws, but I'm happy to ignore them while things are still good. There will be time to do nothing but complain soon enough


And every fan is different. Some are complete homers unable to accept any criticism of the team, some don’t have the ability to see any good, and some are able to see the good and the bad. No team is perfect. But I’m willing to guess that EVERY fan here is enjoying this season. These threads really aren’t too bad I’ve seen people complain about something bad (Givens) and then applaud the many good things. Why some of you tend to focus only when something negative is brought up, is odd.
Bullpen  
CooperDash : 8/6/2022 10:21 pm : link
I’m curious to know what stats you are using that show that the Mets BP is second in the majors. Sure doesn’t feel like that.

When I look at fangraphs, they have the Mets ranked 13th in baseball. The Braves are actually listed 2nd.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Coop  
Dennis : 8/6/2022 10:22 pm : link
In comment 15773619 CooperDash said:
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In comment 15773607 JayBinQueens said:


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In comment 15773602 CooperDash said:


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In comment 15773586 Shecky said:


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No one is telling anyone how to feel.
But if you can appreciate watching this team play, and just sit back and enjoy it?
This team has a chance to be as well remembered as the 86 squad,it’s special.



Who’s to say that I’m not sitting back and enjoying it? Because I complain about something that means I’m not enjoying it? I know that there are some here that drink the kool aide and have a difficult time accepting ANY criticism of the team (which I find incredibly odd) but it’s a sports message board and talking about the crappy stuff is okay too.

That being said - I am very much enjoying this series. And today’s doubleheader. Especially with all the barking the Braves players were doing during yesterdays game.



The way I look at it, as Mets fans, we've been given so much to complain about over the years. Usually multiple things every year. This year has been different. No doubt, there are flaws, but I'm happy to ignore them while things are still good. There will be time to do nothing but complain soon enough



And every fan is different. Some are complete homers unable to accept any criticism of the team, some don’t have the ability to see any good, and some are able to see the good and the bad. No team is perfect. But I’m willing to guess that EVERY fan here is enjoying this season. These threads really aren’t too bad I’ve seen people complain about something bad (Givens) and then applaud the many good things. Why some of you tend to focus only when something negative is brought up, is odd.


Nice post. Thanks.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Coop  
Snablats : 8/6/2022 10:22 pm : link
In comment 15773619 CooperDash said:
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In comment 15773607 JayBinQueens said:


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In comment 15773602 CooperDash said:


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In comment 15773586 Shecky said:


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No one is telling anyone how to feel.
But if you can appreciate watching this team play, and just sit back and enjoy it?
This team has a chance to be as well remembered as the 86 squad,it’s special.



Who’s to say that I’m not sitting back and enjoying it? Because I complain about something that means I’m not enjoying it? I know that there are some here that drink the kool aide and have a difficult time accepting ANY criticism of the team (which I find incredibly odd) but it’s a sports message board and talking about the crappy stuff is okay too.

That being said - I am very much enjoying this series. And today’s doubleheader. Especially with all the barking the Braves players were doing during yesterdays game.



The way I look at it, as Mets fans, we've been given so much to complain about over the years. Usually multiple things every year. This year has been different. No doubt, there are flaws, but I'm happy to ignore them while things are still good. There will be time to do nothing but complain soon enough



And every fan is different. Some are complete homers unable to accept any criticism of the team, some don’t have the ability to see any good, and some are able to see the good and the bad. No team is perfect. But I’m willing to guess that EVERY fan here is enjoying this season. These threads really aren’t too bad I’ve seen people complain about something bad (Givens) and then applaud the many good things. Why some of you tend to focus only when something negative is brought up, is odd.

Again, accurate
Per DiComo  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/6/2022 10:22 pm : link
Mets offensive deadline acquisitions so far:

Vogelbach: .324/.477/.559
Naquin: .318/.318/.727
Ruf: .333/.333/.444

Combined (75 plate appearances):
.323/.413/.600
4 HR, 9 XBH, 12 RBI
RE: RE: RE: RE: Coop  
Rory : 8/6/2022 10:23 pm : link
In comment 15773619 CooperDash said:
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In comment 15773607 JayBinQueens said:


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In comment 15773602 CooperDash said:


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In comment 15773586 Shecky said:


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No one is telling anyone how to feel.
But if you can appreciate watching this team play, and just sit back and enjoy it?
This team has a chance to be as well remembered as the 86 squad,it’s special.



Who’s to say that I’m not sitting back and enjoying it? Because I complain about something that means I’m not enjoying it? I know that there are some here that drink the kool aide and have a difficult time accepting ANY criticism of the team (which I find incredibly odd) but it’s a sports message board and talking about the crappy stuff is okay too.

That being said - I am very much enjoying this series. And today’s doubleheader. Especially with all the barking the Braves players were doing during yesterdays game.



The way I look at it, as Mets fans, we've been given so much to complain about over the years. Usually multiple things every year. This year has been different. No doubt, there are flaws, but I'm happy to ignore them while things are still good. There will be time to do nothing but complain soon enough



And every fan is different. Some are complete homers unable to accept any criticism of the team, some don’t have the ability to see any good, and some are able to see the good and the bad. No team is perfect. But I’m willing to guess that EVERY fan here is enjoying this season. These threads really aren’t too bad I’ve seen people complain about something bad (Givens) and then applaud the many good things. Why some of you tend to focus only when something negative is brought up, is odd.


coop is right, try going on a Yankees thread. they love hicks, they hate hicks, they love him again, then they want him cut,.

The other night I saw someone post to cut Gerrit Cole. Like what?
RE: Per DiComo  
CooperDash : 8/6/2022 10:23 pm : link
In comment 15773624 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Mets offensive deadline acquisitions so far:

Vogelbach: .324/.477/.559
Naquin: .318/.318/.727
Ruf: .333/.333/.444

Combined (75 plate appearances):
.323/.413/.600
4 HR, 9 XBH, 12 RBI


The moves weren’t sexy…but very savvy, smart moves.
Rory, Vientos for a good lefty reliever I would have done  
Snablats : 8/6/2022 10:24 pm : link
for sure. And that is what we arent happy about, because there is zero excuse for not acquiring the solid lefty they need
RE: Per DiComo  
Dennis : 8/6/2022 10:25 pm : link
In comment 15773624 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Mets offensive deadline acquisitions so far:

Vogelbach: .324/.477/.559
Naquin: .318/.318/.727
Ruf: .333/.333/.444

Combined (75 plate appearances):
.323/.413/.600
4 HR, 9 XBH, 12 RBI


It's still a small sample at this point, but I think your point is well made. They have helped the team through this crucial series with the Braves, regardless of what they do in the future.
One of the wonderful things about baseball, is that redemption is always available. Just get a hit, drive in a run, and you're no longer a bum
RE: Bullpen  
ZGiants98 : 8/6/2022 10:26 pm : link
In comment 15773620 CooperDash said:
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I’m curious to know what stats you are using that show that the Mets BP is second in the majors. Sure doesn’t feel like that.

When I look at fangraphs, they have the Mets ranked 13th in baseball. The Braves are actually listed 2nd.


I already posted it the other day. Where we are ranked statistically today and where we are ranked/projected to wind up are two completely different things. And FG keeps that up to date up to the second. Actuals take over for projection with each game. Its essentially a rolling forecast. Here it is again.
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RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Coop  
CooperDash : 8/6/2022 10:33 pm : link
In comment 15773625 Rory said:
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In comment 15773619 CooperDash said:


coop is right, try going on a Yankees thread. they love hicks, they hate hicks, they love him again, then they want him cut,.

The other night I saw someone post to cut Gerrit Cole. Like what?


Oh, those game threads are awful. Complains about every single pitch, every player that gets a hit against them is a scrub, every pitcher that pitches well against them is a no talent hack. LOL, we are nowhere near as depressing as those threads.

Listen, I know I’m not always the most positive person here and I’m sorry that it irks some of you. I’ve taken shit about it and that’s okay. But I’ve also made plenty more positive comments. And even if some on here bicker at times (myself included) I still think you are all some pretty rad “strangers” on a message board and I enjoy the threads. Let’s keep the train moving!
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Coop  
Dennis : 8/6/2022 10:37 pm : link
In comment 15773638 CooperDash said:
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In comment 15773625 Rory said:


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In comment 15773619 CooperDash said:


coop is right, try going on a Yankees thread. they love hicks, they hate hicks, they love him again, then they want him cut,.

The other night I saw someone post to cut Gerrit Cole. Like what?



Oh, those game threads are awful. Complains about every single pitch, every player that gets a hit against them is a scrub, every pitcher that pitches well against them is a no talent hack. LOL, we are nowhere near as depressing as those threads.

Listen, I know I’m not always the most positive person here and I’m sorry that it irks some of you. I’ve taken shit about it and that’s okay. But I’ve also made plenty more positive comments. And even if some on here bicker at times (myself included) I still think you are all some pretty rad “strangers” on a message board and I enjoy the threads. Let’s keep the train moving!


Cooper. I've noticed a difference in your posts in the last week or two. I'm really enjoying them now, especially the last one you posted. I thought it was very insightful.
RE: RE: Bullpen  
CooperDash : 8/6/2022 10:37 pm : link
In comment 15773631 ZGiants98 said:
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In comment 15773620 CooperDash said:


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I’m curious to know what stats you are using that show that the Mets BP is second in the majors. Sure doesn’t feel like that.

When I look at fangraphs, they have the Mets ranked 13th in baseball. The Braves are actually listed 2nd.



I already posted it the other day. Where we are ranked statistically today and where we are ranked/projected to wind up are two completely different things. And FG keeps that up to date up to the second. Actuals take over for projection with each game. Its essentially a rolling forecast. Here it is again. Link - ( New Window )


So, we are ranked 13th as of today but we are “projected” to end up ranked 2nd by the end of the season? Do I have that right?
After the other NY  
ripdumaine : 8/6/2022 10:42 pm : link
Teams fast start we are only 1 game back off their record.
I guess you could say that.  
ZGiants98 : 8/6/2022 10:45 pm : link
The projections start out at the beginning of the year based of a multitude of factors from previous seasons. As the season roles on the projections change based on actuals. So as players either performs well or bad, the projections change. At the moment we are ranked 2nd.

It gets complicated when you start guessing why everyone is reduced down so much, but thats just how they do it.
Im still holding my breath with deGrom  
ZGiants98 : 8/6/2022 10:54 pm : link
Until he gets a few games under his belt. Looking forward to a huge encore from his first game back tomorrow.
RE: Im still holding my breath with deGrom  
Dennis : 8/6/2022 10:59 pm : link
In comment 15773648 ZGiants98 said:
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Until he gets a few games under his belt. Looking forward to a huge encore from his first game back tomorrow.


+1. Me too re holding my breath until he pitches a few games without injury.
RE: RE: Im still holding my breath with deGrom  
Rory : 8/6/2022 11:22 pm : link
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Until he gets a few games under his belt. Looking forward to a huge encore from his first game back tomorrow.



+1. Me too re holding my breath until he pitches a few games without injury.


My q is Who is picking up his innings tomorrow, I’m assuming he goes 75 pitches but that’s like the 5th if all goes well.
RE: RE: RE: Im still holding my breath with deGrom  
Vanzetti : 8/6/2022 11:27 pm : link
In comment 15773653 Rory said:
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Until he gets a few games under his belt. Looking forward to a huge encore from his first game back tomorrow.



+1. Me too re holding my breath until he pitches a few games without injury.



My q is Who is picking up his innings tomorrow, I’m assuming he goes 75 pitches but that’s like the 5th if all goes well.


It's gotta be Joely and Medina.
RE: Everybody  
speedywheels : 8/7/2022 2:03 am : link
In comment 15773514 PakistanPete said:
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loves Pete.

Even Snablats loves Pete.

He just got entrenched in his heel arc and kind find his way out.

Redemption arc incoming...!
.

He doesn’t love Pete - according to him, Pete is “below average” defensively. But that’s based on his own “eye test”; nevermind the objective metrics that say otherwise.

🙄🙄🙄
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