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Just sent to me... watch this cool block by Evan Neal

Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/6/2022 9:35 pm
Damn...


https://twitter.com/DBro_FFB/status/1556017545911697410 - ( New Window )
There is panic in Giants land, bubbling just under the surface,  
Ben in Tampa : 8/6/2022 9:38 pm : link
About Evan Neal

But this video should help dial those fears back.

I think Neal will be up and down (like most rookies) early in the year, but will round into form soon enough.

I think the panic about Neal  
ElitoCanton : 8/6/2022 9:41 pm : link
is mostly fans remembering how bad Andrew Thomas was to start. Lots of PTSD among this fan base.
RE: There is panic in Giants land, bubbling just under the surface,  
Joey in VA : 8/6/2022 9:41 pm : link
In comment 15773566 Ben in Tampa said:
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About Evan Neal

But this video should help dial those fears back.

I think Neal will be up and down (like most rookies) early in the year, but will round into form soon enough.
All of it premature from people barely understand OL play. He's not perfect as a rookie after two weeks of camp, color me shocked. Thomas was abysmal as a rookie at times and look at him now. Panic this early is nothing but idiocy.
We should be careful not to make Thomas' rookie struggles seem routine  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/6/2022 9:56 pm : link
That first year was bad. It's not normal to be that bad. You don't want your 5th pick playing that poorly.

There are in-betweens. You don't expect rookie tackles to dominate, but you also shouldn't present it as okay when they're bottom of the league bad.
this Online has some nasty  
fish3321 : 8/6/2022 9:57 pm : link
Neal, Dirtbag, Lemiux... These boys are taking lunch money.
stay healthy Blue  
jmalls23 : 8/6/2022 9:57 pm : link
Only thing that matters
What panic?  
PatersonPlank : 8/6/2022 10:05 pm : link
Its the 2nd week of August practice. He's going to be really good
RE: What panic?  
Ben in Tampa : 8/6/2022 10:09 pm : link
In comment 15773599 PatersonPlank said:
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Its the 2nd week of August practice. He's going to be really good


Giants Twittersphere has been trying to keep itself together for a week now

RE: RE: What panic?  
Jay on the Island : 8/6/2022 10:28 pm : link
In comment 15773603 Ben in Tampa said:
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In comment 15773599 PatersonPlank said:


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Its the 2nd week of August practice. He's going to be really good



Giants Twittersphere has been trying to keep itself together for a week now

Just as it was at the end of last preseason when people were declaring Andrew Thomas a bust.
RE: There is panic in Giants land, bubbling just under the surface,  
santacruzom : 8/6/2022 10:44 pm : link
In comment 15773566 Ben in Tampa said:
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About Evan Neal

But this video should help dial those fears back.

I think Neal will be up and down (like most rookies) early in the year, but will round into form soon enough.


I'm not concerned about Neal all. He could pass protect like Walter Jones in his prime... it still won't suddenly turn the QB he's protecting into a good player.
We call that a...  
Brown_Hornet : 8/6/2022 11:51 pm : link
..."get him out the club," block.

Is anyone with any knowledge really in any sort of panic mode regarding Evan Neal?

Some the beat reporters  
ElitoCanton : 8/7/2022 12:14 am : link
have been highlighting when he gets beat in one on one drills. It isn't just the crazies. It is an overreaction.
On the negative side  
Bill in UT : 8/7/2022 12:43 am : link
that looked like #94, Elerson Smith, who was driven into the endzone.
RE: On the negative side  
Big Blue Blogger : 8/7/2022 3:29 am : link
Bill in UT said:
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that looked like #94, Elerson Smith, who was driven into the endzone.
Yup, it’s Smith. The clip reinforces the positive about Neal (“Once he gets his hands on you, it’s over”) and the biggest knock on Smith (“That Jason Taylor body is going to get overpowered if he gets beat on the first step, or if his technique isn’t near-perfect”).
Panic?  
Giant John : 8/7/2022 5:51 am : link
None here.
RE: There is panic in Giants land, bubbling just under the surface,  
It's a New Day : 8/7/2022 8:10 am : link
In comment 15773566 Ben in Tampa said:
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About Evan Neal

But this video should help dial those fears back.

I think Neal will be up and down (like most rookies) early in the year, but will round into form soon enough.


Anyone who judges a player before the first preseason game of their career is a moron. Probably the same dopes that called Andrew Thomas a bust...
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/7/2022 8:15 am : link
It is August 7th & people are freaking out about Neal? Jeez.
Good thing is  
BigBlueShock : 8/7/2022 8:20 am : link
By all reports KT has been an absolute beast and that can only help the OTs down the road. The trash that the Giants have been running out there the past several seasons in practice at edge has left the OTs woefully unprepared for game time against the elite pass rushers in the league
 
christian : 8/7/2022 8:24 am : link
In addition to the normal learning curve, Thomas has been up against foot and ankle injuries.

The hyperbole on both sides (bust or All Pro), is silly. He’s an ascending player who’s missed a bunch of games and been hobbled in others.

Hopefully Neal doesn’t have to overcome injuries and can just learn the NFL this year.
I haven't  
PakistanPete : 8/7/2022 8:24 am : link
really noticed panic on my Twitter feed.

One beat tweet that stood out was Duggan saying that Roche put him in a blender.

I thought Justin Penik had a good point about how his sets are different than at college and he's fighting through muscle memory.

Wasn't Thomas scouted has having balance issues and then came into the league and had balance issues?
RE: We call that a...  
Jimmy Googs : 8/7/2022 8:42 am : link
In comment 15773660 Brown_Hornet said:
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..."get him out the club," block.

Is anyone with any knowledge really in any sort of panic mode regarding Evan Neal?


Good one.

And, no...
Thomas  
Toth029 : 8/7/2022 8:43 am : link
Came in and was taught a different stance/footwork. Once Judge canned that OC, he improved.
AT said they are teaching a new technique  
Lines of Scrimmage : 8/7/2022 8:55 am : link
More aggressive punching out in PB sets. I would think some differences for Neal as well.

The vast majority of players have to adjust to the speed of the NFL.

The other consideration is Wink. Some HC's might build slower and build confidence and advance over time. It appears BD wants the kitchen sink thrown at the O. I favor this overload approach as it speeds up the learning process imv. But in addition to speed you now have the mental challenges and they are not preparing for practices and scrimmages like they will for games. Of course you have to contend with the much more limited full contact nowadays as well.
I don’t know about Neal  
Ron Johnson : 8/7/2022 9:24 am : link
But Smith ought to be a bit panicky right now
LoS...  
Brown_Hornet : 8/7/2022 9:25 am : link
...When the player has not been a puncher they often lose posture and will tend to lean and overcommit while learning.

I'd bet Neal will be fine.
Thomas  
Giants : 8/7/2022 9:27 am : link
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/6/2022 9:56 pm : link : reply
That first year was bad. It's not normal to be that bad. You don't want your 5th pick playing that poorly.

There are in-betweens. You don't expect rookie tackles to dominate, but you also shouldn't present it as okay when they're bottom of the league bad.

Hurt his ankle in camp his rookie season. He played his rookie season on a bad ankle. We all know that ankle has required a few surgeries. His latest was this offseason.
RE: LoS...  
Lines of Scrimmage : 8/7/2022 9:35 am : link
In comment 15773732 Brown_Hornet said:
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...When the player has not been a puncher they often lose posture and will tend to lean and overcommit while learning.

I'd bet Neal will be fine.


Certainly a consideration. I am still holding out hope that BD is going to go a little differently offensively than Buffalo and the run will be more emphasized. I will be happy if Neal is good working towards outstanding in run blocking with some ups and downs but trending to the positive over the season in pass sets.
Definitely a positive and negative play.  
DonnieD89 : 8/7/2022 9:42 am : link
Positive for Evan Neal, demonstrating his power in the run game. Negative for Elerson Smith, which really concerns me in the running game. He may be one dimensional.
I think our Run Blocking will be fine  
Simms11 : 8/7/2022 7:43 pm : link
and in fact probably a bit nasty. Pass Pro needs tons of work and it should be expected with 5 new starters of which one is a rookie tackle and another a Guard with very little starting experience, as well. Neal has all the requisite qualities to be a very good olineman in the NFL. Need to be patient.
RE: RE: LoS...  
Brown_Hornet : 8/7/2022 9:09 pm : link
In comment 15773738 Lines of Scrimmage said:
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In comment 15773732 Brown_Hornet said:


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...When the player has not been a puncher they often lose posture and will tend to lean and overcommit while learning.

I'd bet Neal will be fine.



Certainly a consideration. I am still holding out hope that BD is going to go a little differently offensively than Buffalo and the run will be more emphasized. I will be happy if Neal is good working towards outstanding in run blocking with some ups and downs but trending to the positive over the season in pass sets.
I'm not worried.
At Bama, he likely faced 1 or 2 guys like KT, and even the guys that aren't A+ pass rushers (did you notice I just suggested that KT is an elite NFL pass rusher ?...I know, I'm just excited), he'll face are likely better than what he faced, sans for a few. No games off.

He'll need to kick/anchor quicker and he'll need to recognize the need to post quicker. The mental part will come.

I'm excited to see it play out.
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