Strider on why the Mets are so good at grinding out ABs: "I don’t know. It helps when they’re getting calls and 1-1 counts turn to 2-1 counts instead of 1-2 counts, and stuff like that. When your BABIP is .330, .340 as a team, it’s tough to get quick innings and get quick outs.”
Spencer Strider on his outing versus the Mets: "A lot of weird hits. They seem to be having a lot of luck right now offensively. That’s great. It’s August. (We’ll) see what things are like in October.”
Funny article linked below about Ebbs Brewery. The beer may be good but my disdain for the Wilpons (owned by Bruce Wilpon) will prevent me from dropping a single dime in that place. From the article:
“Those numbers after the Ebbs beers are different beers. Ebbs has decided not to name beers, for..reasons. I dare you to figure out the difference between Lager 1 and Lager 3 without a detailed description. Does this mean the bartender has to explain it to literally everyone that’s ordering? Gose 1 has watermelon, which isn’t the standard Gose recipe, so it might be nice to know that?
Ebbs whole aesthetic is this simple “our recipe is just the style and the recipe number” as per their “our story” on their website, which is full of snarky answers and avoiding their own questions. For instance, they’re snarky about what Ebbs means. “It sure does.” they say. Ebbs brand identity was designed by Pentagram, and according to them:
The name “Ebbs” is short, strong and simple, evoking water and New York’s rivers and harbor, as well as Ebbets Field, the home of the Brooklyn Dodgers baseball team.”
So, yeah…it’s just another Wilpon homage within the walls of citified to the Dodgers (the team the Wilpons really wished they owned). Ebbs Field…er, Brewery - ( New Window )
Spencer Strider on his outing versus the Mets: "A lot of weird hits. They seem to be having a lot of luck right now offensively. That’s great. It’s August. (We’ll) see what things are like in October.”
Those tears must taste quite salty.
Personally, I love this. We are renting space in their head right now.
But, great idea…piss off the team that just took 4 of 5 games from you in a pennant race. Who thinks this is already up on the Mets bulletin board?
Spencer Strider on his outing versus the Mets: "A lot of weird hits. They seem to be having a lot of luck right now offensively. That’s great. It’s August. (We’ll) see what things are like in October.”
The Mets luckily made him throw 80 pitches in 3 innings. That clown isn't good enough to whine about luck.
Who’s gonna be the person to tell Strider that the team with the highest BABIP in MLB for the month of August so far is….the Braves. With a .351 BABIP. The Mets are third with .346.
Spencer Strider on his outing versus the Mets: "A lot of weird hits. They seem to be having a lot of luck right now offensively. That’s great. It’s August. (We’ll) see what things are like in October.”
The Mets luckily made him throw 80 pitches in 3 innings. That clown isn't good enough to whine about luck.
He's pretty darn good... But definitely surprising comments.. young athlete with a lot to learn it seems..
Saw a nice contrast with Walkers comments after the other day where he basically was saying he is upset he let his team down.
Doubt we will hear it, but to say this weekend slapped them in the face is an understatement.
Even better will be how high road the Mets take it, it amazes me how much respect Buck has it in that clubhouse. 1st vs 3rd, night and day…
Suck it, Braves!
Pretty simple. Hire a veteran manager and let him manage, and the players respect him because they know he is making decisions. Let the front office hire newbies or retreads with no other options so the front office can dictate everything, as the Mets did for years, and the players know the manager is a puppet and dont have the same respect
prediction: Strider will come to regret those statements
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Lots of roster moves coming in Mets minor leagues this week including third base prospect Brett Baty likely going to Triple-A Syracuse.
Baty hit .312/.406/.544 with 22 doubles, 19 home runs, and 52 RBIs in 89 games for Double-A Binghamton.
Strider on why the Mets are so good at grinding out ABs: "I don’t know. It helps when they’re getting calls and 1-1 counts turn to 2-1 counts instead of 1-2 counts, and stuff like that. When your BABIP is .330, .340 as a team, it’s tough to get quick innings and get quick outs.”
I’ve ever had. It was celebratory and actually pretty emotional. We were standing in Section 109 more than we were sitting and singing along to Simple Man was spine-tingling.
1st base stands were blazing hot but fans were amped throughout.
Such an important weekend on the field. In 06 and 15, the Barves weren’t really on the radar. We have never actually won the East by just beating the Barves for it. Just didn’t feel like the sky is about to fall - at all.
Felt like the fan base was just like “we’re better. That’s it.” And its been a long time coming. Gonna try and catch all of Jake’s home starts rest of the way. Amazin’ day!
night and day from last year - buck and the FO deserve a lot of credit
last year post-deadline they started their playoff push by dropping series to the marlins and reds, then totally no-showed against philly in a sweep. they lost 8 one run games to the LAD/SFG just in august. during that period of time you had all the off the field nonsense with zack scott calling out the players for their off field habits and lindor/baez doing the thumbs down.
buck and scherzer and marte have remade this clubhouse while on the field '95 or walk' has become the team's signature. from the signings of canha/marte through the deadline pickups of vogelbach/naquin/ruf we can see a consistent philosophy that has worked. they grind pitchers down and get the big hit. strider's comments are telling in how much this team can frustrate even very good pitchers.
the guy who deserves the most credit though is Cohen because this is all only possible with him doubling the payroll from the wilpon years and making good decisions rebuilding the org - all of the above included.
Man, I'd love if it was a Mets-LAD NLCS. And go Mets! Haha. I watched 'Once Upon a Time in Queens' a couple of months back & the '88 Mets shoulda won that series vs. the Dodgers.
Worst thing about that series is that they had it won (Mets won 10 of 11 from them in the regular season too, making it even more painful).
If Davey had taken out Doc after 8 and let Randy Myers close the 9th, they would have won Game 4 at Shea to go up 3 games to 1 w/the next game at Shea as well. Instead the Scioscia thing happened. Devastated the franchise. Fatass Lasorda went on record saying that the Dodgers wouldn't have come back down 3 to 1 against the Mets.
Funny article linked below about Ebbs Brewery. The beer may be good but my disdain for the Wilpons (owned by Bruce Wilpon) will prevent me from dropping a single dime in that place. From the article:
“Those numbers after the Ebbs beers are different beers. Ebbs has decided not to name beers, for..reasons. I dare you to figure out the difference between Lager 1 and Lager 3 without a detailed description. Does this mean the bartender has to explain it to literally everyone that’s ordering? Gose 1 has watermelon, which isn’t the standard Gose recipe, so it might be nice to know that?
Ebbs whole aesthetic is this simple “our recipe is just the style and the recipe number” as per their “our story” on their website, which is full of snarky answers and avoiding their own questions. For instance, they’re snarky about what Ebbs means. “It sure does.” they say. Ebbs brand identity was designed by Pentagram, and according to them:
The name “Ebbs” is short, strong and simple, evoking water and New York’s rivers and harbor, as well as Ebbets Field, the home of the Brooklyn Dodgers baseball team.”
So, yeah…it’s just another Wilpon homage within the walls of citified to the Dodgers (the team the Wilpons really wished they owned). Ebbs Field…er, Brewery - ( New Window )
The Wilpons are scum, but Jeffie Boy (a.k.a. "King Tut", as deemed by the late Nelson Doubleday) is the king of them all.
Man, I'd love if it was a Mets-LAD NLCS. And go Mets! Haha. I watched 'Once Upon a Time in Queens' a couple of months back & the '88 Mets shoulda won that series vs. the Dodgers.
Worst thing about that series is that they had it won (Mets won 10 of 11 from them in the regular season too, making it even more painful).
If Davey had taken out Doc after 8 and let Randy Myers close the 9th, they would have won Game 4 at Shea to go up 3 games to 1 w/the next game at Shea as well. Instead the Scioscia thing happened. Devastated the franchise. Fatass Lasorda went on record saying that the Dodgers wouldn't have come back down 3 to 1 against the Mets.
I don't remember the game 4 details. One thing I do remember from that series is David Cone giving the Dodgers pretty major bulletin board motivation after game 1 and then getting badly smacked around by them early in game 2.
I just looked at the box score and it was as bad as I remembered. Cone gave up 5 ER in 2 innings (22.5 ERA).
We'll never know exactly how much of a difference it made (or whether it negatively affected Cone more than motivated the Dodgers), but the Mets were 12-1 against the Dodgers that year (including game 1) before Cone wrote his stupid article and fired them up. The Mets ended up losing 4 of the next 6 to them.
Just another example of a player who should've done his talking with his performance on the field!
Man, I'd love if it was a Mets-LAD NLCS. And go Mets! Haha. I watched 'Once Upon a Time in Queens' a couple of months back & the '88 Mets shoulda won that series vs. the Dodgers.
Worst thing about that series is that they had it won (Mets won 10 of 11 from them in the regular season too, making it even more painful).
If Davey had taken out Doc after 8 and let Randy Myers close the 9th, they would have won Game 4 at Shea to go up 3 games to 1 w/the next game at Shea as well. Instead the Scioscia thing happened. Devastated the franchise. Fatass Lasorda went on record saying that the Dodgers wouldn't have come back down 3 to 1 against the Mets.
I don't remember the game 4 details. One thing I do remember from that series is David Cone giving the Dodgers pretty major bulletin board motivation after game 1 and then getting badly smacked around by them early in game 2.
I just looked at the box score and it was as bad as I remembered. Cone gave up 5 ER in 2 innings (22.5 ERA).
We'll never know exactly how much of a difference it made (or whether it negatively affected Cone more than motivated the Dodgers), but the Mets were 12-1 against the Dodgers that year (including game 1) before Cone wrote his stupid article and fired them up. The Mets ended up losing 4 of the next 6 to them.
Just another example of a player who should've done his talking with his performance on the field!
It was 10 of 11 (sorry to nitpick). Coney was wrong to do that. I blame Davey for not reigning things in there. It was always a fault of his. I blame him for not winning that series. The Coney thing aside, he bounced back like a pro's pro in Game 6 in LA in a what was a dominating performance. The biggest mistake of that series was by far letting Gooden come out to throw the ninth. After the walk to start the 9th Davey still had a chance to bring in Randy Myers, but didn't. Cost us a WS appearance. It was devastating to the fans and the franchise. They never recovered. I remember being in New Jersey as an 11 year old watching the game at our family friends' house there. I wanted to puke, lol.
last year post-deadline they started their playoff push by dropping series to the marlins and reds, then totally no-showed against philly in a sweep. they lost 8 one run games to the LAD/SFG just in august. during that period of time you had all the off the field nonsense with zack scott calling out the players for their off field habits and lindor/baez doing the thumbs down.
buck and scherzer and marte have remade this clubhouse while on the field '95 or walk' has become the team's signature. from the signings of canha/marte through the deadline pickups of vogelbach/naquin/ruf we can see a consistent philosophy that has worked. they grind pitchers down and get the big hit. strider's comments are telling in how much this team can frustrate even very good pitchers.
the guy who deserves the most credit though is Cohen because this is all only possible with him doubling the payroll from the wilpon years and making good decisions rebuilding the org - all of the above included.
I think Sandy Alderson is also helping Cohen in his experience with working within the framework of the front office. He knows which areas need more focus then others and probably can suggest changes within the system..
Ill also add Andy Goldberg who is their new executive vice president and chief marketing officer.
RE: RE: night and day from last year - buck and the FO deserve a lot of credit
last year post-deadline they started their playoff push by dropping series to the marlins and reds, then totally no-showed against philly in a sweep. they lost 8 one run games to the LAD/SFG just in august. during that period of time you had all the off the field nonsense with zack scott calling out the players for their off field habits and lindor/baez doing the thumbs down.
buck and scherzer and marte have remade this clubhouse while on the field '95 or walk' has become the team's signature. from the signings of canha/marte through the deadline pickups of vogelbach/naquin/ruf we can see a consistent philosophy that has worked. they grind pitchers down and get the big hit. strider's comments are telling in how much this team can frustrate even very good pitchers.
the guy who deserves the most credit though is Cohen because this is all only possible with him doubling the payroll from the wilpon years and making good decisions rebuilding the org - all of the above included.
I think Sandy Alderson is also helping Cohen in his experience with working within the framework of the front office. He knows which areas need more focus then others and probably can suggest changes within the system..
Ill also add Andy Goldberg who is their new executive vice president and chief marketing officer.
You mean Sandy is pointing out all his screwups and telling Cohen to do it differently? Alderson just messed up the trade deadline, again. He needs to retire, or just go away
last year post-deadline they started their playoff push by dropping series to the marlins and reds, then totally no-showed against philly in a sweep. they lost 8 one run games to the LAD/SFG just in august. during that period of time you had all the off the field nonsense with zack scott calling out the players for their off field habits and lindor/baez doing the thumbs down.
buck and scherzer and marte have remade this clubhouse while on the field '95 or walk' has become the team's signature. from the signings of canha/marte through the deadline pickups of vogelbach/naquin/ruf we can see a consistent philosophy that has worked. they grind pitchers down and get the big hit. strider's comments are telling in how much this team can frustrate even very good pitchers.
the guy who deserves the most credit though is Cohen because this is all only possible with him doubling the payroll from the wilpon years and making good decisions rebuilding the org - all of the above included.
I think Sandy Alderson is also helping Cohen in his experience with working within the framework of the front office. He knows which areas need more focus then others and probably can suggest changes within the system..
Ill also add Andy Goldberg who is their new executive vice president and chief marketing officer.
You mean Sandy is pointing out all his screwups and telling Cohen to do it differently? Alderson just messed up the trade deadline, again. He needs to retire, or just go away
We know his son is in the front office, but how much longer is Sandy gonna be here now that Cohen is entrenched?
My thinking is he is Cohen's consultant on baseball operations until they get someone like Stearns or Neander in here to take over as president of baseball.
Though his pre-deadline comments on the podcast were not needed and confusing why he even said it. Saying trading PCA last year made them reluctant to move prospects this year, was a weird thing to do. 2 weeks before the deadline.
Eppler went into trade discussions with their reluctance to trade top prospects known. Gave leverage to the other side. Alderson shouldn't have done that and I don't know why he did.
Why do you think no one would even interview for the GM job? It was reported by people who refused interviews that the reason was Alderson and his son still being there
We know his son is in the front office, but how much longer is Sandy gonna be here now that Cohen is entrenched?
i dont understand the issues with sandy. he built the mets scouting department to be one of the best in baseball over the last decade (in 2019 BA ranked the mets 5th in the article below but that was poised to move higher with Alonso, McNeil, Nimmo, etc continuing to produce). Their IFA work was strong too (rosario, gimenez, alvarez, mauricio, ramirez, probably others im forgetting).
his free agents mostly sucked but that needs to be graded on the scale of what he had to work with, i think granderson was the biggest $ free agent the wilpons signed from 2010 on and he had to cut payroll for the first half of his tenure so he basically signed nobody. I thnk we can all remember years where mediocre players like Bronson Arroyo were too expensive to pursue let alone anyone like Scherzer.
to answer the question i think Sandy's role is generally to be cohen's eyes and ears since he's still got his own businesses he's running. there have never been rumors of him micromanaging or driving talented people away so i think most of sandy's impact was in hiring Eppler to run the franchise day to day and after that he's basically a go between cohen trusted from his work over the time he was a partial owner. id assume he will continue in that role as long as the team succeeds or until he decides to retire. Ranking Every MLB Team's Draft Performance In The 2010s - ( New Window )
We know his son is in the front office, but how much longer is Sandy gonna be here now that Cohen is entrenched?
i dont understand the issues with sandy. he built the mets scouting department to be one of the best in baseball over the last decade (in 2019 BA ranked the mets 5th in the article below but that was poised to move higher with Alonso, McNeil, Nimmo, etc continuing to produce). Their IFA work was strong too (rosario, gimenez, alvarez, mauricio, ramirez, probably others im forgetting).
his free agents mostly sucked but that needs to be graded on the scale of what he had to work with, i think granderson was the biggest $ free agent the wilpons signed from 2010 on and he had to cut payroll for the first half of his tenure so he basically signed nobody. I thnk we can all remember years where mediocre players like Bronson Arroyo were too expensive to pursue let alone anyone like Scherzer.
to answer the question i think Sandy's role is generally to be cohen's eyes and ears since he's still got his own businesses he's running. there have never been rumors of him micromanaging or driving talented people away so i think most of sandy's impact was in hiring Eppler to run the franchise day to day and after that he's basically a go between cohen trusted from his work over the time he was a partial owner. id assume he will continue in that role as long as the team succeeds or until he decides to retire. Ranking Every MLB Team's Draft Performance In The 2010s - ( New Window )
Yup, totally.
Putting myself out there but always appreciated Sandy, this franchise started to turn around dramatically after he was brought on. He even worked through a tough cancer bout (no not just the Wilpons :p )
That old man is nails.
this was setting up to look like deGroms "Imperfect Game".
widely anticipated series very similar to 69 mets cubs at shea.
Was thinking Jake would be in PG then Buck would have to come out to get him about 80 pitches in. Didnt quite play out.
All respect to my idol and greatest Met Tom Seaver RIP, but we are at point of head to head comparisons.
Mets can match the Braves, Now Jake needs to lead us to a WS win.
another interesting stat that's a credit to buck + FO
the comparison to the 2015 royals isn't a bad one. that team really knew how to grind pitchers and play good fundamental baseball. biggest difference is that they didn't have an alonso.
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One thing we track are "defensive misplays"
Plays that aren't errors - but are mistakes that cost an out, a base, or a chance at an out
We have 60+ categories, watch every play to chart them
We know his son is in the front office, but how much longer is Sandy gonna be here now that Cohen is entrenched?
i dont understand the issues with sandy. he built the mets scouting department to be one of the best in baseball over the last decade (in 2019 BA ranked the mets 5th in the article below but that was poised to move higher with Alonso, McNeil, Nimmo, etc continuing to produce). Their IFA work was strong too (rosario, gimenez, alvarez, mauricio, ramirez, probably others im forgetting).
his free agents mostly sucked but that needs to be graded on the scale of what he had to work with, i think granderson was the biggest $ free agent the wilpons signed from 2010 on and he had to cut payroll for the first half of his tenure so he basically signed nobody. I thnk we can all remember years where mediocre players like Bronson Arroyo were too expensive to pursue let alone anyone like Scherzer.
to answer the question i think Sandy's role is generally to be cohen's eyes and ears since he's still got his own businesses he's running. there have never been rumors of him micromanaging or driving talented people away so i think most of sandy's impact was in hiring Eppler to run the franchise day to day and after that he's basically a go between cohen trusted from his work over the time he was a partial owner. id assume he will continue in that role as long as the team succeeds or until he decides to retire. Ranking Every MLB Team's Draft Performance In The 2010s - ( New Window )
Yup, totally.
Putting myself out there but always appreciated Sandy, this franchise started to turn around dramatically after he was brought on. He even worked through a tough cancer bout (no not just the Wilpons :p )
That old man is nails.
Was he nails when he ushered in the steroid era? Was he nails when he hasnt hired a good manager since Larussa in the 80s? Was he nails when he ran Bochy out of San Diego to hire 1st timer Bud Black, who hasnt won anything while Bochy won 3 titles with SF?
Was he nails when he was bailed out of two terrible trades before being forced to trade for the only bat left in 2015 - Cespedes? Was he nails when he acquired 10 relievers at the 2017 deadline and all 10 have failed?
Was he nails when he didnt look into Callaway's past in Cleveland? Was he nails when he lied to the fans and media about his spending limit year after year, telling us he could go up 20 million each year and then cutting payroll to 80 million?
Was he nails when no good GM candidate would even interview last winter because, as was reported, he would still be there and call the shots?
"They seem to be having a lot of luck right now offensively. That’s great. It’s August. We’ll see what things are like in October."
https://twitter.com/TalkinBaseball_/status/1556445212129595393?s=20&t=_JSYeF8P4fPC8aZXnbO1jQ
Strider on why the Mets are so good at grinding out ABs: "I don’t know. It helps when they’re getting calls and 1-1 counts turn to 2-1 counts instead of 1-2 counts, and stuff like that. When your BABIP is .330, .340 as a team, it’s tough to get quick innings and get quick outs.”
https://twitter.com/JustinCToscano/status/1556437450163163136?s=20&t=wqdxtZ-7gxmbqiFPL_QR_w
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Most strikeouts in 9-inning game, Mets history:
Today deGrom + Rodríguez + Díaz: 19
10/6/91 David Cone: 19
4/22/70 Tom Seaver: 19
“Those numbers after the Ebbs beers are different beers. Ebbs has decided not to name beers, for..reasons. I dare you to figure out the difference between Lager 1 and Lager 3 without a detailed description. Does this mean the bartender has to explain it to literally everyone that’s ordering? Gose 1 has watermelon, which isn’t the standard Gose recipe, so it might be nice to know that?
Ebbs whole aesthetic is this simple “our recipe is just the style and the recipe number” as per their “our story” on their website, which is full of snarky answers and avoiding their own questions. For instance, they’re snarky about what Ebbs means. “It sure does.” they say. Ebbs brand identity was designed by Pentagram, and according to them:
The name “Ebbs” is short, strong and simple, evoking water and New York’s rivers and harbor, as well as Ebbets Field, the home of the Brooklyn Dodgers baseball team.”
So, yeah…it’s just another Wilpon homage within the walls of citified to the Dodgers (the team the Wilpons really wished they owned).
Ebbs Field…er, Brewery - ( New Window )
Those tears must taste quite salty.
Personally, I love this. We are renting space in their head right now.
But, great idea…piss off the team that just took 4 of 5 games from you in a pennant race. Who thinks this is already up on the Mets bulletin board?
Diaz is averaging 19k's per 9 over his last 18 appearances. That is insane.
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Edwin Díaz has now gone 18 straight appearances without allowing a run:
18 IP, 7 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 38 K
Re: strikeouts - Forget the last 18 appearances. He’s averaging close to 18 per 9 for season.
The Mets luckily made him throw 80 pitches in 3 innings. That clown isn't good enough to whine about luck.
Their backs are pretty much to the wall next weekend.
Their backs are pretty much to the wall next weekend.
sorry, not weekend, week following.
DeGrom was making it seem so easy that most people at the game never noticed that he had a perfect game going into the 6th inning.
Considering he was still building up his pitching count, it made this even more impressive.
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Spencer Strider on his outing versus the Mets: "A lot of weird hits. They seem to be having a lot of luck right now offensively. That’s great. It’s August. (We’ll) see what things are like in October.”
The Mets luckily made him throw 80 pitches in 3 innings. That clown isn't good enough to whine about luck.
He's pretty darn good... But definitely surprising comments.. young athlete with a lot to learn it seems..
Saw a nice contrast with Walkers comments after the other day where he basically was saying he is upset he let his team down.
Mauricio too..
And both were to left center!
The power the Mets have in AA/AAA is insane
Even better will be how high road the Mets take it, it amazes me how much respect Buck has it in that clubhouse. 1st vs 3rd, night and day…
Next season you can slide Peterson in for Walker if we don't bring Walker back.
Even better will be how high road the Mets take it, it amazes me how much respect Buck has it in that clubhouse. 1st vs 3rd, night and day…
Suck it, Braves!
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Doubt we will hear it, but to say this weekend slapped them in the face is an understatement.
Even better will be how high road the Mets take it, it amazes me how much respect Buck has it in that clubhouse. 1st vs 3rd, night and day…
Suck it, Braves!
Pretty simple. Hire a veteran manager and let him manage, and the players respect him because they know he is making decisions. Let the front office hire newbies or retreads with no other options so the front office can dictate everything, as the Mets did for years, and the players know the manager is a puppet and dont have the same respect
They are chasing the Dodgers for the #1 seed in the NL.
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They are chasing the Dodgers for the #1 seed in the NL.
Lot of season left... and the Phillies are scary right now as well, winning 10 of their last 11
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They are chasing the Dodgers for the #1 seed in the NL.
Lot of season left... and the Phillies are scary right now as well, winning 10 of their last 11
the mets are 9-3 vs philly this year. the mets are a good team. the sept schedule shouldnt be hard. no need to worry about anyone behind us
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Lots of roster moves coming in Mets minor leagues this week including third base prospect Brett Baty likely going to Triple-A Syracuse.
Baty hit .312/.406/.544 with 22 doubles, 19 home runs, and 52 RBIs in 89 games for Double-A Binghamton.
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Lot of season left... and the Phillies are scary right now as well, winning 10 of their last 11
the mets are 9-3 vs philly this year. the mets are a good team. the sept schedule shouldnt be hard. no need to worry about anyone behind us
14 years ago still has me scarred
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but no chance they let him go 9. I almost hope he gives up a hit so they don’t think about it lol.
I said the same exact thing to my son, lol.
Coop, it's really nice that you and your son watch or listen to the game together. Good on you.
Thanks man, I have three more weeks until he’s off to his first year of college. I’ll take all the time I can get!
My son is starting HS this Wed. I'm already dreading when he goes off to college in 4 yrs. I know I'm going to miss him.
"They seem to be having a lot of luck right now offensively. That’s great. It’s August. We’ll see what things are like in October."
https://twitter.com/TalkinBaseball_/status/1556445212129595393?s=20&t=_JSYeF8P4fPC8aZXnbO1jQ
Strider on why the Mets are so good at grinding out ABs: "I don’t know. It helps when they’re getting calls and 1-1 counts turn to 2-1 counts instead of 1-2 counts, and stuff like that. When your BABIP is .330, .340 as a team, it’s tough to get quick innings and get quick outs.”
https://twitter.com/JustinCToscano/status/1556437450163163136?s=20&t=wqdxtZ-7gxmbqiFPL_QR_w
The guy can pitch, but what a whiny little bitch.
What a great weekend! Might have to make another trip to CF this weekend.
1st base stands were blazing hot but fans were amped throughout.
Such an important weekend on the field. In 06 and 15, the Barves weren’t really on the radar. We have never actually won the East by just beating the Barves for it. Just didn’t feel like the sky is about to fall - at all.
Felt like the fan base was just like “we’re better. That’s it.” And its been a long time coming. Gonna try and catch all of Jake’s home starts rest of the way. Amazin’ day!
buck and scherzer and marte have remade this clubhouse while on the field '95 or walk' has become the team's signature. from the signings of canha/marte through the deadline pickups of vogelbach/naquin/ruf we can see a consistent philosophy that has worked. they grind pitchers down and get the big hit. strider's comments are telling in how much this team can frustrate even very good pitchers.
the guy who deserves the most credit though is Cohen because this is all only possible with him doubling the payroll from the wilpon years and making good decisions rebuilding the org - all of the above included.
Worst thing about that series is that they had it won (Mets won 10 of 11 from them in the regular season too, making it even more painful).
If Davey had taken out Doc after 8 and let Randy Myers close the 9th, they would have won Game 4 at Shea to go up 3 games to 1 w/the next game at Shea as well. Instead the Scioscia thing happened. Devastated the franchise. Fatass Lasorda went on record saying that the Dodgers wouldn't have come back down 3 to 1 against the Mets.
“Those numbers after the Ebbs beers are different beers. Ebbs has decided not to name beers, for..reasons. I dare you to figure out the difference between Lager 1 and Lager 3 without a detailed description. Does this mean the bartender has to explain it to literally everyone that’s ordering? Gose 1 has watermelon, which isn’t the standard Gose recipe, so it might be nice to know that?
Ebbs whole aesthetic is this simple “our recipe is just the style and the recipe number” as per their “our story” on their website, which is full of snarky answers and avoiding their own questions. For instance, they’re snarky about what Ebbs means. “It sure does.” they say. Ebbs brand identity was designed by Pentagram, and according to them:
The name “Ebbs” is short, strong and simple, evoking water and New York’s rivers and harbor, as well as Ebbets Field, the home of the Brooklyn Dodgers baseball team.”
So, yeah…it’s just another Wilpon homage within the walls of citified to the Dodgers (the team the Wilpons really wished they owned). Ebbs Field…er, Brewery - ( New Window )
The Wilpons are scum, but Jeffie Boy (a.k.a. "King Tut", as deemed by the late Nelson Doubleday) is the king of them all.
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They are chasing the Dodgers for the #1 seed in the NL.
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Man, I'd love if it was a Mets-LAD NLCS. And go Mets! Haha. I watched 'Once Upon a Time in Queens' a couple of months back & the '88 Mets shoulda won that series vs. the Dodgers.
Worst thing about that series is that they had it won (Mets won 10 of 11 from them in the regular season too, making it even more painful).
If Davey had taken out Doc after 8 and let Randy Myers close the 9th, they would have won Game 4 at Shea to go up 3 games to 1 w/the next game at Shea as well. Instead the Scioscia thing happened. Devastated the franchise. Fatass Lasorda went on record saying that the Dodgers wouldn't have come back down 3 to 1 against the Mets.
I don't remember the game 4 details. One thing I do remember from that series is David Cone giving the Dodgers pretty major bulletin board motivation after game 1 and then getting badly smacked around by them early in game 2.
I just looked at the box score and it was as bad as I remembered. Cone gave up 5 ER in 2 innings (22.5 ERA).
We'll never know exactly how much of a difference it made (or whether it negatively affected Cone more than motivated the Dodgers), but the Mets were 12-1 against the Dodgers that year (including game 1) before Cone wrote his stupid article and fired them up. The Mets ended up losing 4 of the next 6 to them.
Just another example of a player who should've done his talking with his performance on the field!
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Man, I'd love if it was a Mets-LAD NLCS. And go Mets! Haha. I watched 'Once Upon a Time in Queens' a couple of months back & the '88 Mets shoulda won that series vs. the Dodgers.
Worst thing about that series is that they had it won (Mets won 10 of 11 from them in the regular season too, making it even more painful).
If Davey had taken out Doc after 8 and let Randy Myers close the 9th, they would have won Game 4 at Shea to go up 3 games to 1 w/the next game at Shea as well. Instead the Scioscia thing happened. Devastated the franchise. Fatass Lasorda went on record saying that the Dodgers wouldn't have come back down 3 to 1 against the Mets.
I don't remember the game 4 details. One thing I do remember from that series is David Cone giving the Dodgers pretty major bulletin board motivation after game 1 and then getting badly smacked around by them early in game 2.
I just looked at the box score and it was as bad as I remembered. Cone gave up 5 ER in 2 innings (22.5 ERA).
We'll never know exactly how much of a difference it made (or whether it negatively affected Cone more than motivated the Dodgers), but the Mets were 12-1 against the Dodgers that year (including game 1) before Cone wrote his stupid article and fired them up. The Mets ended up losing 4 of the next 6 to them.
Just another example of a player who should've done his talking with his performance on the field!
It was 10 of 11 (sorry to nitpick). Coney was wrong to do that. I blame Davey for not reigning things in there. It was always a fault of his. I blame him for not winning that series. The Coney thing aside, he bounced back like a pro's pro in Game 6 in LA in a what was a dominating performance. The biggest mistake of that series was by far letting Gooden come out to throw the ninth. After the walk to start the 9th Davey still had a chance to bring in Randy Myers, but didn't. Cost us a WS appearance. It was devastating to the fans and the franchise. They never recovered. I remember being in New Jersey as an 11 year old watching the game at our family friends' house there. I wanted to puke, lol.
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buck and scherzer and marte have remade this clubhouse while on the field '95 or walk' has become the team's signature. from the signings of canha/marte through the deadline pickups of vogelbach/naquin/ruf we can see a consistent philosophy that has worked. they grind pitchers down and get the big hit. strider's comments are telling in how much this team can frustrate even very good pitchers.
the guy who deserves the most credit though is Cohen because this is all only possible with him doubling the payroll from the wilpon years and making good decisions rebuilding the org - all of the above included.
I think Sandy Alderson is also helping Cohen in his experience with working within the framework of the front office. He knows which areas need more focus then others and probably can suggest changes within the system..
Ill also add Andy Goldberg who is their new executive vice president and chief marketing officer.
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last year post-deadline they started their playoff push by dropping series to the marlins and reds, then totally no-showed against philly in a sweep. they lost 8 one run games to the LAD/SFG just in august. during that period of time you had all the off the field nonsense with zack scott calling out the players for their off field habits and lindor/baez doing the thumbs down.
buck and scherzer and marte have remade this clubhouse while on the field '95 or walk' has become the team's signature. from the signings of canha/marte through the deadline pickups of vogelbach/naquin/ruf we can see a consistent philosophy that has worked. they grind pitchers down and get the big hit. strider's comments are telling in how much this team can frustrate even very good pitchers.
the guy who deserves the most credit though is Cohen because this is all only possible with him doubling the payroll from the wilpon years and making good decisions rebuilding the org - all of the above included.
I think Sandy Alderson is also helping Cohen in his experience with working within the framework of the front office. He knows which areas need more focus then others and probably can suggest changes within the system..
Ill also add Andy Goldberg who is their new executive vice president and chief marketing officer.
You mean Sandy is pointing out all his screwups and telling Cohen to do it differently? Alderson just messed up the trade deadline, again. He needs to retire, or just go away
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last year post-deadline they started their playoff push by dropping series to the marlins and reds, then totally no-showed against philly in a sweep. they lost 8 one run games to the LAD/SFG just in august. during that period of time you had all the off the field nonsense with zack scott calling out the players for their off field habits and lindor/baez doing the thumbs down.
buck and scherzer and marte have remade this clubhouse while on the field '95 or walk' has become the team's signature. from the signings of canha/marte through the deadline pickups of vogelbach/naquin/ruf we can see a consistent philosophy that has worked. they grind pitchers down and get the big hit. strider's comments are telling in how much this team can frustrate even very good pitchers.
the guy who deserves the most credit though is Cohen because this is all only possible with him doubling the payroll from the wilpon years and making good decisions rebuilding the org - all of the above included.
I think Sandy Alderson is also helping Cohen in his experience with working within the framework of the front office. He knows which areas need more focus then others and probably can suggest changes within the system..
Ill also add Andy Goldberg who is their new executive vice president and chief marketing officer.
You mean Sandy is pointing out all his screwups and telling Cohen to do it differently? Alderson just messed up the trade deadline, again. He needs to retire, or just go away
lol wow
My thinking is he is Cohen's consultant on baseball operations until they get someone like Stearns or Neander in here to take over as president of baseball.
Also there to support his son Thad.
Eppler went into trade discussions with their reluctance to trade top prospects known. Gave leverage to the other side. Alderson shouldn't have done that and I don't know why he did.
i dont understand the issues with sandy. he built the mets scouting department to be one of the best in baseball over the last decade (in 2019 BA ranked the mets 5th in the article below but that was poised to move higher with Alonso, McNeil, Nimmo, etc continuing to produce). Their IFA work was strong too (rosario, gimenez, alvarez, mauricio, ramirez, probably others im forgetting).
his free agents mostly sucked but that needs to be graded on the scale of what he had to work with, i think granderson was the biggest $ free agent the wilpons signed from 2010 on and he had to cut payroll for the first half of his tenure so he basically signed nobody. I thnk we can all remember years where mediocre players like Bronson Arroyo were too expensive to pursue let alone anyone like Scherzer.
to answer the question i think Sandy's role is generally to be cohen's eyes and ears since he's still got his own businesses he's running. there have never been rumors of him micromanaging or driving talented people away so i think most of sandy's impact was in hiring Eppler to run the franchise day to day and after that he's basically a go between cohen trusted from his work over the time he was a partial owner. id assume he will continue in that role as long as the team succeeds or until he decides to retire.
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We know his son is in the front office, but how much longer is Sandy gonna be here now that Cohen is entrenched?
i dont understand the issues with sandy. he built the mets scouting department to be one of the best in baseball over the last decade (in 2019 BA ranked the mets 5th in the article below but that was poised to move higher with Alonso, McNeil, Nimmo, etc continuing to produce). Their IFA work was strong too (rosario, gimenez, alvarez, mauricio, ramirez, probably others im forgetting).
his free agents mostly sucked but that needs to be graded on the scale of what he had to work with, i think granderson was the biggest $ free agent the wilpons signed from 2010 on and he had to cut payroll for the first half of his tenure so he basically signed nobody. I thnk we can all remember years where mediocre players like Bronson Arroyo were too expensive to pursue let alone anyone like Scherzer.
to answer the question i think Sandy's role is generally to be cohen's eyes and ears since he's still got his own businesses he's running. there have never been rumors of him micromanaging or driving talented people away so i think most of sandy's impact was in hiring Eppler to run the franchise day to day and after that he's basically a go between cohen trusted from his work over the time he was a partial owner. id assume he will continue in that role as long as the team succeeds or until he decides to retire. Ranking Every MLB Team's Draft Performance In The 2010s - ( New Window )
Yup, totally.
Putting myself out there but always appreciated Sandy, this franchise started to turn around dramatically after he was brought on. He even worked through a tough cancer bout (no not just the Wilpons :p )
That old man is nails.
widely anticipated series very similar to 69 mets cubs at shea.
Was thinking Jake would be in PG then Buck would have to come out to get him about 80 pitches in. Didnt quite play out.
All respect to my idol and greatest Met Tom Seaver RIP, but we are at point of head to head comparisons.
Mets can match the Braves, Now Jake needs to lead us to a WS win.
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We know his son is in the front office, but how much longer is Sandy gonna be here now that Cohen is entrenched?
i dont understand the issues with sandy. he built the mets scouting department to be one of the best in baseball over the last decade (in 2019 BA ranked the mets 5th in the article below but that was poised to move higher with Alonso, McNeil, Nimmo, etc continuing to produce). Their IFA work was strong too (rosario, gimenez, alvarez, mauricio, ramirez, probably others im forgetting).
his free agents mostly sucked but that needs to be graded on the scale of what he had to work with, i think granderson was the biggest $ free agent the wilpons signed from 2010 on and he had to cut payroll for the first half of his tenure so he basically signed nobody. I thnk we can all remember years where mediocre players like Bronson Arroyo were too expensive to pursue let alone anyone like Scherzer.
to answer the question i think Sandy's role is generally to be cohen's eyes and ears since he's still got his own businesses he's running. there have never been rumors of him micromanaging or driving talented people away so i think most of sandy's impact was in hiring Eppler to run the franchise day to day and after that he's basically a go between cohen trusted from his work over the time he was a partial owner. id assume he will continue in that role as long as the team succeeds or until he decides to retire. Ranking Every MLB Team's Draft Performance In The 2010s - ( New Window )
Yup, totally.
Putting myself out there but always appreciated Sandy, this franchise started to turn around dramatically after he was brought on. He even worked through a tough cancer bout (no not just the Wilpons :p )
That old man is nails.
Was he nails when he ushered in the steroid era? Was he nails when he hasnt hired a good manager since Larussa in the 80s? Was he nails when he ran Bochy out of San Diego to hire 1st timer Bud Black, who hasnt won anything while Bochy won 3 titles with SF?
Was he nails when he was bailed out of two terrible trades before being forced to trade for the only bat left in 2015 - Cespedes? Was he nails when he acquired 10 relievers at the 2017 deadline and all 10 have failed?
Was he nails when he didnt look into Callaway's past in Cleveland? Was he nails when he lied to the fans and media about his spending limit year after year, telling us he could go up 20 million each year and then cutting payroll to 80 million?
Was he nails when no good GM candidate would even interview last winter because, as was reported, he would still be there and call the shots?