if we want to be honest, it was like 10 yards to the right of where it should have been. It looks more like a missed throw than a “throw away” pass.
Buckle up guys, it’s going to be a long year. But unlike the past few I think we’ll see a well coached team that will at least score some points and make it entertaining for the fans. They’ll get their future QB in 2023.
Hard to believe you haven't seen a play like that before
is silly, but that did not look like a throw away to me. Looked like an errant pass to me, which Jones does way too often. It wound up being a good thing, but I dont think he was actually looking to throw that one away
is silly, but that did not look like a throw away to me. Looked like an errant pass to me, which Jones does way too often. It wound up being a good thing, but I dont think he was actually looking to throw that one away
Even places like war torn Syria and parts of the Congo? Remote villages in Greenland? They all stopped what they were doing to point and laugh at an American football player?
Astounding.
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Based solely on 5/6 days of practice video I’ve seen — Its Raiders v. Dolphins in the AFC championship. Rams v. Eagles in the NFC championship. The Cowboys Trevon Diggs will get burned for 27 TD’s although none will come against Daniel Jones who will complete 24% of his throws.
I think his ceiling is "fine", but I don't see a big problem with that play. Leonard Williams absolutely wrecked that play, so it looks like a rushed throw or throwaway to a safe place.
It also looked like the WR and QB had different ideas, quite possibly from being rushed, but it seems like that may be a thing in this offense until the WRs and Qb and build some cohesion with enough reps. Offering freedom to WRs is great, but I think you will see a lot of miscommunication type incompletions early in the year.
will be how much it'll cost the Giants to bring DJ back. For the first time,he has a competent OLine,a HC & OC looking to cater an offense to his strengths & physically,DJ looks bigger & stronger than at any time in his Giants career. He who laughs last.......
will be how much it'll cost the Giants to bring DJ back. For the first time,he has a competent OLine,a HC & OC looking to cater an offense to his strengths & physically,DJ looks bigger & stronger than at any time in his Giants career. He who laughs last.......
I'd rather that, than having to use a number of draft picks to get a new guy who may or may not be any better. My guess is that Jones has a perfectly respectable season. Some will argue that he is good enough. Others will say he is not elite and we have to move on. Both groups will have some evidence on their side. It would be great if it would be clear cut...but we all know that it will not be.
RE: RE: Can't wait until Nov-Dec,when the media talk
will be how much it'll cost the Giants to bring DJ back. For the first time,he has a competent OLine,a HC & OC looking to cater an offense to his strengths & physically,DJ looks bigger & stronger than at any time in his Giants career. He who laughs last.......
I'd rather that, than having to use a number of draft picks to get a new guy who may or may not be any better. My guess is that Jones has a perfectly respectable season. Some will argue that he is good enough. Others will say he is not elite and we have to move on. Both groups will have some evidence on their side. It would be great if it would be clear cut...but we all know that it will not be.
will be how much it'll cost the Giants to bring DJ back. For the first time,he has a competent OLine,a HC & OC looking to cater an offense to his strengths & physically,DJ looks bigger & stronger than at any time in his Giants career. He who laughs last.......
You mean would hope we have a competent o-line, HC and OC.
It is the first head coaching gig for Daboll, it is the first time Kafka is running an offense, and the line has AT and Glowinski who have played well in the NFL before, a rookie RT, a journeyman at center, and an unknown in SL. One rookie backup that looks promising, and nothing after that on the line.
will be how much it'll cost the Giants to bring DJ back. For the first time,he has a competent OLine,a HC & OC looking to cater an offense to his strengths & physically,DJ looks bigger & stronger than at any time in his Giants career. He who laughs last.......
You mean would hope we have a competent o-line, HC and OC.
It is the first head coaching gig for Daboll, it is the first time Kafka is running an offense, and the line has AT and Glowinski who have played well in the NFL before, a rookie RT, a journeyman at center, and an unknown in SL. One rookie backup that looks promising, and nothing after that on the line.
Sorry,forgot where I was. BBI,where the glass is ALWAYS half empty......
It's funny if you don't know anything about football except
Golladay. Had no interest in running that route. Great way to make your QB look bad.
Yes, the qb doesn't need help with that.
A lesser qb might have thrown it a little high and just a tad more toward the receiver and let the big receiver box the db especially since this is practice and his coach instructed him to take more chances. We are fortunate to have a guy who knows the severe limitations of his accuracy and arm and heaved it out of bounds.
Golladay. Had no interest in running that route. Great way to make your QB look bad.
Yes, the qb doesn't need help with that.
A lesser qb might have thrown it a little high and just a tad more toward the receiver and let the big receiver box the db especially since this is practice and his coach instructed him to take more chances. We are fortunate to have a guy who knows the severe limitations of his accuracy and arm and heaved it out of bounds.
Did you even watch the clip? At what point before Jones was gonna get throttled (in practice terms) did it look like Golladay was in position to catch a ball thrown to his outside?
Also, it doesn’t take a football savant to conclude that the two probably weren’t on the same page in the route. The WRs have spoke often about the route trees having “options” in this system. It’s very likely that Jones seen the defender string inside and thought Golladay would break outside. That was a horrific route run by Golladay. ButvDanny boy is an easy target for the mouth breathers so go get him, boys!
I wonder if Golladay ran the route too deep, though, and Jones passed it to where he should have been. But it’s just one play.
I just think that Golladay took his sweet time getting to the place he should have been. It looked like a timing route they have run a lot, just the way Jones took a couple steps and then threw. If Golladay runs a lazy route he won't get back to where Jones expects. I also think the plan is to throw that high and outside to make sure there is no pick, those passes when thrown on the inside shoulder are very susceptible to an INT.
Golladay is quickly becoming one of my least favorite players ever.
This is a guy who played for 2 years at that CFB powerhouse Northern Illinois, the plays for the Lions. Then the Giants. One lousy program after another. Then he acts like he’s Randy Moss.
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Golladay. Had no interest in running that route. Great way to make your QB look bad.
Yes, the qb doesn't need help with that.
A lesser qb might have thrown it a little high and just a tad more toward the receiver and let the big receiver box the db especially since this is practice and his coach instructed him to take more chances. We are fortunate to have a guy who knows the severe limitations of his accuracy and arm and heaved it out of bounds./////////
Did you even watch the clip? At what point before Jones was gonna get throttled (in practice terms) did it look like Golladay was in position to catch a ball thrown to his outside?
Also, it doesn’t take a football savant to conclude that the two probably weren’t on the same page in the route. The WRs have spoke often about the route trees having “options” in this system. It’s very likely that Jones seen the defender string inside and thought Golladay would break outside. That was a horrific route run by Golladay. ButvDanny boy is an easy target for the mouth breathers so go get him, boys!
BBS, lol, exactly. KG had zero investment in that route, stumbled/slipped and our home grown, bitter HJ45 savant suggests throwing it 'a little high and a tad more to the receiver'. That would have been high risk of pic 6 given the lethargy shown by KG.
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I see some calling this as a bad throw by Daniel Jones. This is a throwaway.
If that ball is on target, it’s a pick. He read the play, realized the CB’s leverage, and threw it where only his guy could get it
Also, Giants fans, stop over-analyzing scrimmage clips on August 8th
Jones has a clean pocket. Williams isn't going to hit him - because he can't - and there is an opportunity, if Jones had a plus arm and better footwork, to make a high throw towards KG's left shoulder to complete the pass. A throw like that would be to a spot where only KG can catch it.
But throws like that are not in Jones's repertoire, so the outcome is probably best for a QB with Jones's limitations.
Buckle up guys, it’s going to be a long year. But unlike the past few I think we’ll see a well coached team that will at least score some points and make it entertaining for the fans. They’ll get their future QB in 2023.
Insert eye roll..
Astounding.
My God the anti-Jones shit is getting absurd
Classic example of someone trying too hard to hate on a guy.
OP is very smart. Smart enough to run away from the thread that he created and not try to defend his ridiculous position.
The only thing I take away from that clip is that Golladay is washed up and severely overpaid.
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Based solely on 5/6 days of practice video I’ve seen — Its Raiders v. Dolphins in the AFC championship. Rams v. Eagles in the NFC championship. The Cowboys Trevon Diggs will get burned for 27 TD’s although none will come against Daniel Jones who will complete 24% of his throws.
It also looked like the WR and QB had different ideas, quite possibly from being rushed, but it seems like that may be a thing in this offense until the WRs and Qb and build some cohesion with enough reps. Offering freedom to WRs is great, but I think you will see a lot of miscommunication type incompletions early in the year.
has gotten way beyond the absurd level here at BBI.
Way.
It was an ugly play from a scrimmage. Lazy route run by Golladay and perhaps a bit off the mark by Jones. Couldn't be less of a big deal.
Jones' accuracy has never really been the issue. It's the decision making. But when a guy is down, these are the things people focus on.
I'd rather that, than having to use a number of draft picks to get a new guy who may or may not be any better. My guess is that Jones has a perfectly respectable season. Some will argue that he is good enough. Others will say he is not elite and we have to move on. Both groups will have some evidence on their side. It would be great if it would be clear cut...but we all know that it will not be.
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will be how much it'll cost the Giants to bring DJ back. For the first time,he has a competent OLine,a HC & OC looking to cater an offense to his strengths & physically,DJ looks bigger & stronger than at any time in his Giants career. He who laughs last.......
I'd rather that, than having to use a number of draft picks to get a new guy who may or may not be any better. My guess is that Jones has a perfectly respectable season. Some will argue that he is good enough. Others will say he is not elite and we have to move on. Both groups will have some evidence on their side. It would be great if it would be clear cut...but we all know that it will not be.
We all DON"T know that.......
You mean would hope we have a competent o-line, HC and OC.
It is the first head coaching gig for Daboll, it is the first time Kafka is running an offense, and the line has AT and Glowinski who have played well in the NFL before, a rookie RT, a journeyman at center, and an unknown in SL. One rookie backup that looks promising, and nothing after that on the line.
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will be how much it'll cost the Giants to bring DJ back. For the first time,he has a competent OLine,a HC & OC looking to cater an offense to his strengths & physically,DJ looks bigger & stronger than at any time in his Giants career. He who laughs last.......
You mean would hope we have a competent o-line, HC and OC.
It is the first head coaching gig for Daboll, it is the first time Kafka is running an offense, and the line has AT and Glowinski who have played well in the NFL before, a rookie RT, a journeyman at center, and an unknown in SL. One rookie backup that looks promising, and nothing after that on the line.
Sorry,forgot where I was. BBI,where the glass is ALWAYS half empty......
A lesser qb might have thrown it a little high and just a tad more toward the receiver and let the big receiver box the db especially since this is practice and his coach instructed him to take more chances. We are fortunate to have a guy who knows the severe limitations of his accuracy and arm and heaved it out of bounds.
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Golladay. Had no interest in running that route. Great way to make your QB look bad.
Yes, the qb doesn't need help with that.
A lesser qb might have thrown it a little high and just a tad more toward the receiver and let the big receiver box the db especially since this is practice and his coach instructed him to take more chances. We are fortunate to have a guy who knows the severe limitations of his accuracy and arm and heaved it out of bounds.
Did you even watch the clip? At what point before Jones was gonna get throttled (in practice terms) did it look like Golladay was in position to catch a ball thrown to his outside?
Also, it doesn’t take a football savant to conclude that the two probably weren’t on the same page in the route. The WRs have spoke often about the route trees having “options” in this system. It’s very likely that Jones seen the defender string inside and thought Golladay would break outside. That was a horrific route run by Golladay. ButvDanny boy is an easy target for the mouth breathers so go get him, boys!
That's our #1 WR, 18th highest paid NFL wide receiver, separating.
I just think that Golladay took his sweet time getting to the place he should have been. It looked like a timing route they have run a lot, just the way Jones took a couple steps and then threw. If Golladay runs a lazy route he won't get back to where Jones expects. I also think the plan is to throw that high and outside to make sure there is no pick, those passes when thrown on the inside shoulder are very susceptible to an INT.
This is a guy who played for 2 years at that CFB powerhouse Northern Illinois, the plays for the Lions. Then the Giants. One lousy program after another. Then he acts like he’s Randy Moss.
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Golladay. Had no interest in running that route. Great way to make your QB look bad.
Yes, the qb doesn't need help with that.
A lesser qb might have thrown it a little high and just a tad more toward the receiver and let the big receiver box the db especially since this is practice and his coach instructed him to take more chances. We are fortunate to have a guy who knows the severe limitations of his accuracy and arm and heaved it out of bounds./////////
Did you even watch the clip? At what point before Jones was gonna get throttled (in practice terms) did it look like Golladay was in position to catch a ball thrown to his outside?
Also, it doesn’t take a football savant to conclude that the two probably weren’t on the same page in the route. The WRs have spoke often about the route trees having “options” in this system. It’s very likely that Jones seen the defender string inside and thought Golladay would break outside. That was a horrific route run by Golladay. ButvDanny boy is an easy target for the mouth breathers so go get him, boys!
BBS, lol, exactly. KG had zero investment in that route, stumbled/slipped and our home grown, bitter HJ45 savant suggests throwing it 'a little high and a tad more to the receiver'. That would have been high risk of pic 6 given the lethargy shown by KG.
Agree with cosmicj's sentiment above.
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I see some calling this as a bad throw by Daniel Jones. This is a throwaway.
If that ball is on target, it’s a pick. He read the play, realized the CB’s leverage, and threw it where only his guy could get it
Also, Giants fans, stop over-analyzing scrimmage clips on August 8th
But throws like that are not in Jones's repertoire, so the outcome is probably best for a QB with Jones's limitations.
That 75 yard run and fall was a metaphor for his career so far.