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NFT: Mets Minors 8/8/2022

DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 8:41 am
- Parada expected to debut this week
-Baty and Butto to Syracuse per Martino
-Only one draftee for the Mets has appeared in a game (Paul Gervase who struck out 2 over 1 perfect inning)


AAA Syracuse scored 18 runs and Alvarez "only" had 1 hit and a walk

Alvarez 1-5, BB, 2 k's
Dom 3-5
Lee 1-4, 2B, BB, K

AA
Baty 2-3, HR, 2 walks
Mauricio 1-5, HR, K
McIIwain 1-4

BK
Jordan 1-4, BB
Ramirez 1-5
Consuegra 0-4, BB, 2 k's (5 for his last 37, wearing down?)


St Lucie
Lugo 2-4 (promoted post game)
Tilien 0-3, BB, K
Scott 3 innings 2 hits 0 runs 0 walks 3 k's (Maybe the most underrated P performer in the system this season)
Dominguez 0-3, SB, 3 k's
Ziegler  
five5 : 8/8/2022 8:48 am : link
What’s the latest on him? Also…Vientos? Thank you.
RE: Ziegler  
DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 8:51 am : link
In comment 15774456 five5 said:
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What’s the latest on him? Also…Vientos? Thank you.


Ziegler pitched .2 of an inning this week after returning from biceps tendonitis (pulled due to pitches, 25 in one inning)

Vientos is believed to have tested positive for Covid but that hasn't been confirmed.
Well-deserved promotion for Baty  
KDavies : 8/8/2022 8:54 am : link
will be interesting where they play him at Syracuse
RE: Well-deserved promotion for Baty  
DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 8:55 am : link
In comment 15774462 KDavies said:
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will be interesting where they play him at Syracuse


Almost assuredly starting 3b. Vientos is no longer a 3b except in a pinch
Thank  
five5 : 8/8/2022 8:55 am : link
You!
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DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 8:56 am : link
Not quite the buzz of Kelenic/Sewald vs.
@mets, but ex-@mets prospect Justin Dunn the scheduled starter for @redstonight
Vientos  
DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 9:00 am : link
at 3b was always going to be a stretch but per Longenhagen he has bulked up to the point he was having trouble making throws. The Mets said he would play some OF but pulled the plug before he saw game action this year. Safely profile him as DH/backup to Pete at 1b. If he's here, basically the Ruf role as a rookie.
RE: RE: Well-deserved promotion for Baty  
KDavies : 8/8/2022 9:00 am : link
In comment 15774464 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 15774462 KDavies said:


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will be interesting where they play him at Syracuse



Almost assuredly starting 3b. Vientos is no longer a 3b except in a pinch


Yeah, I'm curious if they move him around at all
in Binghamton  
KDavies : 8/8/2022 9:01 am : link
Baty had 67 starts in 3B and 9 in LF. I wonder if that continues, or just strictly 3B
RE: in Binghamton  
DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 9:03 am : link
In comment 15774474 KDavies said:
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Baty had 67 starts in 3B and 9 in LF. I wonder if that continues, or just strictly 3B



They play Baty 1 game per week in the OF, that was supposed to be the play for Vientos but they reversed course. I assume that plan will continue.
Speaking  
DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 9:09 am : link
to a writer, Baty's defensive issues remain pretty similar to what they were before the year. Moves well for his size but not "well" for a starting 3b so he takes some time to get moving on balls in (so this will be something they need to deal with positioning-wise), he boots some gimmes because he doesn't have the softest hands and his exchanges sometimes exhibit below average times (glove to throwing hand). This all comes from somebody who ranks him top 30 with all-star upside, so not a "hater".
RE: RE: in Binghamton  
KDavies : 8/8/2022 9:12 am : link
In comment 15774476 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 15774474 KDavies said:


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Baty had 67 starts in 3B and 9 in LF. I wonder if that continues, or just strictly 3B




They play Baty 1 game per week in the OF, that was supposed to be the play for Vientos but they reversed course. I assume that plan will continue.


Gotcha
The  
DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 9:21 am : link
Mets drafted or signed either 7 or 8 P that appeared in the MLB Draft League, something to monitor for next season trying to predict players they may covet.
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DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 9:31 am : link

Michael Mayer
@mikemayer22
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Baseball America has update their Too 100 prospects, the Mets have 4 players on the list:

6. Francisco Álvarez
28. Brett Baty
53. Kevin Parada
94. Alex Ramirez
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KDavies : 8/8/2022 9:40 am : link
In comment 15774513 DanMetroMan said:
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Michael Mayer
@mikemayer22
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5m
Baseball America has update their Too 100 prospects, the Mets have 4 players on the list:

6. Francisco Álvarez
28. Brett Baty
53. Kevin Parada
94. Alex Ramirez


Who are the 5 ahead? I don't subscribe.
I see  
KDavies : 8/8/2022 9:42 am : link
Gunnar Henderson is 1, Grayson Rodriguez 4
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DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 10:33 am : link
@mets ***1st round pick @jettwilliams04*** (he will wear #1) has been assigned to FCL Mets as have 9th round pick @chasestep12 and 11th round pick Rhylan Thomas #Mets
Kiley ranks the met system 5th in MLB post-draft  
Eric on Li : 8/8/2022 10:58 am : link
though as he notes a lot of value in Alvarez (though that's likely true of most of the top 10 orgs since most of them probably have at least 1 top 15 prospect).

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5. New York Mets - $286 million

Preseason Value - $196 million (18th)

It's important to note that the very top prospects in baseball are valued at what seems on its face to be a wild amount of money, but the track record justifies it. Francisco Alvarez is now the top prospect in the game at a value of $112 million and if he were to graduate from prospect status tomorrow, the Mets would fall from fifth to 21st.

With a solid draft class (C Kevin Parada, SS Jett Williams, RHP Blade Tidwell, 2B Nick Morabito), no notable graduations, no big trades that sent prospects out (call it the Pete Crow-Armstrong cooling effect), and Alvarez moving from ninth to first (appreciating $57 million in the process) in the Top 100, that makes a solid recipe for an appreciating farm system. OF Alex Ramirez is the other notable riser.
It's  
DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 11:00 am : link
believed (not confirmed) that Kevin Parada will begin his career in St. Lucie.
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DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 11:03 am : link
DSL Mets 2 come out swinging with a 4 spot in the first. Willy Fanas, who returned over the weekend after missing a month due to an undisclosed injury with a BB and a run scored, Orangel Rodriguez (who hasn't played much, and was moved from DSL1 to 2) also has added a BB #Mets
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GF1080 : 8/8/2022 11:18 am : link
In comment 15774610 DanMetroMan said:
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DSL Mets 2 come out swinging with a 4 spot in the first. Willy Fanas, who returned over the weekend after missing a month due to an undisclosed injury with a BB and a run scored, Orangel Rodriguez (who hasn't played much, and was moved from DSL1 to 2) also has added a BB #Mets


Good to see Fanas back!!
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DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 11:18 am : link
17-year-old C Carlos Oviedo quietly having a solid season. Average up to .275, OPS up to .798 thanks in part due to an impressive 15 walks over 101 ab's
RE: I see  
GF1080 : 8/8/2022 11:21 am : link
In comment 15774525 KDavies said:
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Gunnar Henderson is 1, Grayson Rodriguez 4


Carroll must be in there as well. Chourio and de la Cruz biggest risers I'd imagine.

Interesting Gunnar over Carroll. Orioles are stacked. 3 top 5 prospects within a calendar year and then the a top 5 draft pick. They are setting themselves up for an Astros like run.
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DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 11:22 am : link
Jack Ramsey
@jackwramsey
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Kevin Parada will debut with the St Lucie Mets in the near future, per source. The 11th overall selection skips the FCL and heads straight to full-season hall.
I'm  
DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 11:26 am : link
'm curious if we see Kevin Kendall this season. He had off-season arm surgery (non-throwing arm) so I expected to see him (even as a DH) at some point this year
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DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 11:30 am : link
Fanas adds an RBI single. All in all Fanas season has to be considered something of a disappointment (19 next season) would be great to see him finish strong
Christian Scott  
GF1080 : 8/8/2022 11:30 am : link
Scott getting promoted to Brooklyn.
I  
DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 11:33 am : link
guess I DO have power lol

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Daniel Wexler
@WexlerRules
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No real rush but Christian Scott should be promoted relatively soon as well 2.80 FIP, 12.84 K/9, turned 23 in June. He's likely ready for BK #Mets"
era  
DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 11:35 am : link
is ugly but Scott has been very good, well deserved
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DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 11:44 am : link
Missed it but 2 IFA's made their @mets debuts over the weekend SS Jeisel Vargas and C Daniel Silva (both are 17 and both signed this past January) #Mets
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DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 11:54 am : link
@mets 1st round pick @jettwilliams04 is in the lineup today for the FCL Mets. He's hitting 5th and DHing. @chasestep12 hitting 3rd, playing 3B, and Rhylan Thomas also debuting, hitting 6th and starting in CF. Talented LHP Javier Atencio making the start (rehab) #Mets
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DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 11:55 am : link
Quite a way to debut as the opposing P will be a rehabbing Zack Burdi, he of the 100+ MPH FB. #Mets
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DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 12:00 pm : link
Simon Juan 0-2, K, 17-year-old RH Rodolfo Garrido with 6 k's over 2 innings #Mets
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DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 12:12 pm : link
Atencio (who came into today 9th in the organization in FIP 3.02 (30+ innings) and 10th in K/9 11.76) allows 2 hits, striking out 2 in his first inning of work (rehab)
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DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 12:17 pm : link
McIntosh/Villavicencio both single to open the game. Villavicencio has really come on strong in recent weeks
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DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 12:20 pm : link
9th round pick 3B Chase Estep's first professional AB results in a flyout to RF
,  
DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 12:23 pm : link
Jett Williams first PA as a pro (vs. ex MLB RP Zach Burdi) results in a walk #PerfectOBP #1000OPS #Mets
RE: It's  
Payasdaddy : 8/8/2022 12:31 pm : link
In comment 15774604 DanMetroMan said:
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believed (not confirmed) that Kevin Parada will begin his career in St. Lucie.


What would be parada eta?
Figuring he would be in AA ball sometime next yr so possibly mid 2024?
Garrido  
DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 12:32 pm : link
4 innings 2 hits 1 run 0 walks 7 k's

Atencio 2 innings 2 hits 0 runs 0 walks 3 k's
RE: RE: It's  
DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 12:34 pm : link
In comment 15774750 Payasdaddy said:
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In comment 15774604 DanMetroMan said:


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believed (not confirmed) that Kevin Parada will begin his career in St. Lucie.



What would be parada eta?
Figuring he would be in AA ball sometime next yr so possibly mid 2024?


We'll see how he looks behind the plate, how his pitch calling/framing develops, how open they really are to him seeing time at other (new positions). Barring something shocking you're looking at second half 2024 as a realistic era sight unseen, and he should either open in AA next season, or a quick shuttle from BK to AA.
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DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 12:38 pm : link
Garrido done for the day. I'd put a star next to his name, he's one to follow next season in St. Lucie, if not sooner (promotion)
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DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 12:38 pm : link
In comment 15774759 DanMetroMan said:
Garrido done for the day. I'd put a star next to his name, he's one to follow next season in FCL, if not sooner (promotion)

.  
DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 12:42 pm : link
****Professional debut**** 2022 UDFA (and former @RedStorm SP) Joe Joe Rodriguez 1 perfect, 1 K. His FB was reportedly up to 95 MPH in the @mlbdraftleague #Mets
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DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 12:51 pm : link
In comment 15774765 DanMetroMan said:
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****Professional debut**** 2022 UDFA (and former @RedStorm SP) Joe Joe Rodriguez 1 perfect, 1 K. His FB was reportedly up to 95 MPH in the @mlbdraftleague #Mets


Joe Joe 2 innings 1 hit 0 runs 0 walks 3 k's, that's a strong pro debut #Mets
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DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 12:56 pm : link
Estep walks, Perozo (top 25 in the system coming into the year, arguably #3 C prospect in the system) homers, Williams grounds out, Thomas lines out
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DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 12:59 pm : link
Vincent Perozo's OPS is up to .817 in the FCL, thanks to a stellar OBP (now up over .380)
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DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 1:00 pm : link
Joe Joe Rodriguez fresh off of signing with @mets....3 innings 1 hit 0 runs 0 walks 4 k's. @mets already have a top 25 UDFA prospect in Grant Hartwig. On paper their UDFA class of 2022 looks intriguing as well
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DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 1:16 pm : link
Don't sleep on RHP Robert Colina (7.99 era in St. Lucie and all). He's struck out 57 over 43.2 combined innings with a BABIP over .400!! Still only 21
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DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 1:21 pm : link
In comment 15774731 DanMetroMan said:
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McIntosh/Villavicencio both single to open the game. Villavicencio has really come on strong in recent weeks


2 more hits for KV (including a 2b). .829 OPS in July, .821 OPS in August coming into today. Now has a 6-game-hitting streak, hits in 13 of his last 14 games played and 6 multi-hit games since 7/23. Ruben Tejada comps
When did the Mets get the 5th ranked farm?  
pjcas18 : 8/8/2022 1:26 pm : link
or does ESPN have their own rankings now that differ from BA/Law/BP/FG, etc.

Metsmerized Online
@Metsmerized
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1h
Mets are tied for the 2nd best record in the majors.

Mets have the 5th best farm system in baseball according to ESPN.
RE: When did the Mets get the 5th ranked farm?  
KDavies : 8/8/2022 1:30 pm : link
In comment 15774818 pjcas18 said:
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or does ESPN have their own rankings now that differ from BA/Law/BP/FG, etc.

Metsmerized Online
@Metsmerized
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1h
Mets are tied for the 2nd best record in the majors.

Mets have the 5th best farm system in baseball according to ESPN.


Check out Eric's 10:58 post on this thread.
RE: RE: When did the Mets get the 5th ranked farm?  
pjcas18 : 8/8/2022 1:32 pm : link
In comment 15774825 KDavies said:
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In comment 15774818 pjcas18 said:


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or does ESPN have their own rankings now that differ from BA/Law/BP/FG, etc.

Metsmerized Online
@Metsmerized
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1h
Mets are tied for the 2nd best record in the majors.

Mets have the 5th best farm system in baseball according to ESPN.



Check out Eric's 10:58 post on this thread.


thanks, hadn't been following that closely.
RE: When did the Mets get the 5th ranked farm?  
DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 1:36 pm : link
In comment 15774818 pjcas18 said:
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or does ESPN have their own rankings now that differ from BA/Law/BP/FG, etc.

Metsmerized Online
@Metsmerized
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1h
Mets are tied for the 2nd best record in the majors.

Mets have the 5th best farm system in baseball according to ESPN.


It’s different. It’s “valuation” which assigns $ value projections.
FWIW  
DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 1:37 pm : link
Longenhagen said they were “inside his top 10”, Law had them in the teens pre draft so roughly the same as Longenhagen if I were guessing
Fangraphs  
DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 1:42 pm : link
Updated has Mets 11 post draft

Baltimore #1, Cleveland Pittsburgh Cubs Rays their top 5
Rbi s  
DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 2:02 pm : link
single for Jett
RE: Rbi s  
KDavies : 8/8/2022 2:10 pm : link
In comment 15774863 DanMetroMan said:
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single for Jett


A walk and the RBI single so far?
RE: RE: Rbi s  
DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 2:13 pm : link
In comment 15774869 KDavies said:
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In comment 15774863 DanMetroMan said:


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single for Jett



A walk and the RBI single so far?


Yup. Not to be outdone, Rhlyan Thomas collects his first professional hit as well, Estep a walk and a single in his first game, KV with *3* hits… kid is absolutely on fire . @mets reportedly very high on him despite “non sexy” tools #Met
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DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 2:22 pm : link
In comment 15774802 DanMetroMan said:
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Don't sleep on RHP Robert Colina (7.99 era in St. Lucie and all). He's struck out 57 over 43.2 combined innings with a BABIP over .400!! Still only 21


Colina 3 innings 1 hit 0 runs 0 walks 3 k's, Luis Rodriguez 1 perfect 1 K. The *other* Luis Rodriguez is one of 4 intriguing
@mets
prospects who should be returning from TJ next season (Allan, Dominguez, Ross, LHH Luis Rodriguez)
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DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 2:27 pm : link
Update: Williams 1-3, single, rbi, walk, Estep 1-3, BB, K, error, Thomas 1-4, Rodriguez pro-debut 3 innings 1 hit 4 k's. Perozo 2 run homer, Colina 3 innings 3 k's, Villavicencio 3 hits, 2B and a SB #Mets
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DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 2:38 pm : link
FCL Nats score 3 in the 9th off of Palacios to bring the Nats within 1, so Endy Chavez (yes, that Endy) calls for Kolby Kubichek (cue the trumpets) to try and close this one out
Put it in the books!  
DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 2:48 pm : link
Crazy ending to the game, Kubichek strikes out Eliesel Santana, and the runner on 3rd, broke for home and was tagged out to end the game. Kubichek's era drops to 1.15 (promote the man!), Endy pushes the right buttons (heir apparent to Buck? Mostly kidding) #Mets
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DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 2:51 pm : link
Kolby Kubichek has allowed 2 runs over 10 appearances in the FCL. He was @mets 18th round pick in 2021. rough go of it in the FSL last season, but he appears ready for another shot at it (23 in November)
Brett Baty article for The Athletic subscribers.  
Optimus-NY : 8/8/2022 3:05 pm : link
Thanks Dan for always making these threads. They're must-reads for me. Really appreciate it. I always enjoy reading them. Here's a nice article about Brett Baty.



Mets prospect Brett Baty on his hot summer, power surge and James McCann’s advice - By Alex Schiffer (8-8-22 / The Athletic) - ( New Window )
RE: When did the Mets get the 5th ranked farm?  
Optimus-NY : 8/8/2022 3:08 pm : link
In comment 15774818 pjcas18 said:
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or does ESPN have their own rankings now that differ from BA/Law/BP/FG, etc.

Metsmerized Online
@Metsmerized
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1h
Mets are tied for the 2nd best record in the majors.

Mets have the 5th best farm system in baseball according to ESPN.


You’re very welcome  
DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 3:12 pm : link
When I was 11 I became obsessed with reading the 1992 Mets yearbook which he bios, scouting reports and numbers of their “top” prospects. DJ Dozier sounded like the next Bo Jackson haha. I later Met Jeromy Burnitz (who was in the yearbook as a prospect) and told him about it
Gervase  
DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 4:07 pm : link
Promoted from FCL to FSL.
RE: You’re very welcome  
Optimus-NY : 8/8/2022 4:11 pm : link
In comment 15774946 DanMetroMan said:
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When I was 11 I became obsessed with reading the 1992 Mets yearbook which he bios, scouting reports and numbers of their “top” prospects. DJ Dozier sounded like the next Bo Jackson haha. I later Met Jeromy Burnitz (who was in the yearbook as a prospect) and told him about it


Nice! I go way back too. I must admit to something: I turned off the TV when Gam 6 of the 86 WS was on and the Mets were down to their last out. My 9-year old brain and heart couldn't bear to see that team lose after the season they had. Boy did I learn a lesson from that, lol!

P.S. My buddy Giovanni was in the "LET'S GO METS!" video from '86 (he's the Dominican kid in glasses on the far right at the 55 second mark).


0:55 / 4:03 Lets Go Mets Music Video (1986) - 55 second mark - ( New Window )
Ovalles  
DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 4:12 pm : link
As well
I  
DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 4:14 pm : link
Turned off the 10 run comeback game in 2000 onlh for my grandmother to call me and ask if I was watching the comeback haha
RE: I  
Optimus-NY : 8/8/2022 4:19 pm : link
In comment 15775017 DanMetroMan said:
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Turned off the 10 run comeback game in 2000 onlh for my grandmother to call me and ask if I was watching the comeback haha


lol. I'll tell what: Gid got me two years later in Game 4of the '88 NLCS @ Shea when Scioscia hit that Home Run offa Doc cuz Dumbass Davey left him in the game too long in the 9th despite having Lights Out Randy Myers in the Bullpen. 34 years later and I still haven't recovered from that shit!
My  
DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 4:33 pm : link
Mom to this day accuses me of being a bad fan when they are down 5-6 runs late and I turn it off haha
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DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 5:18 pm : link
Congrats to Jeffrey Colon. Colon has been promoted to @BKCyclones. 3rd in the organization in FIP (30+ innings)
Mason McRae top 100  
DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 5:43 pm : link
13. Francisco Alvarez, C, Mets
I’m low on Alvarez relative to the population. He has a 37% Z minus O swing rate in Triple-A but has managed to run a high walk rate which is where almost all of his run production has come from. Doesn’t look sustainable. Has .195 xBA in Triple-A, but the raw power is where he’s getting most of his love as he hits the ball hard; has a 90th EV > 105 mph and a Max > 110 mph. His power is plus, he lifts with authority and could hit 25–30 HR, if he doesn’t hit for power though it’ll be a rough offensive profile. He’s an average reciever with a below-average arm, I think he’ll split time at C and 1B and sit right around a 105 wRC+ for the majority of his career with peaks around 115. It all hinges on him hitting for power.


22. Brett Baty, 3B, Mets
Baty has improved a lot in his extended time in Binghamton. His power is real and could produce upwards of 25 in the MLB. He’s making plenty of contact in the zone and has around average swing decisions. He’s improved in the field which is a big development for him as he won’t have to move over to 1B. I think he can hold his own in LF and at third. His contact quality is elite and he’s posted a Max EV above 114 mph.

64. Kevin Parada, C, Mets
Parada was 6th overall on my ’22 board. He’s a catcher in a world where we’re expecting robot umps, making his position an offensive one. But because the entire profile revolves around the offensive tools, it probably doesn’t affect him as much as his peers. His arm is below-average, and he’s a below-average receiver. Parada’s approach is aggressive, as a result he swings at a lot of good pitches, as well as some of the bad ones. The positive is that his bat-to-ball skills allow for some decision-making error, and he can get away with poor swings. His batted ball numbers are good and he’s exceptionally good at creating the ideal attack angles to match pitches in order to connect with the bottom portion of the ball. It’s a high-end offensive profile at C/1B/LF.


97. Alex Ramirez, OF, Mets
Ramirez is just 19 and has a 67% Z minus O swing rate in High-A. It hasn’t translated into walks just yet, but I think that’ll come over time. He’s a CF with some speed and above-average power. Contact quality in High-A has been much better than in Low-A. Plenty of upside on the offensive side.
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DanMetroMan : 8/8/2022 6:10 pm : link
Fanas 2-2, 3B, 2 walks, (easily his best game as a pro)
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