How much is Winks defense going to help the o-line

can't guess how much.

Can't hurt

Especially if the starters can remain healthy and develop a high level of cohesion.

Honestly, I think Wink's defense will put more pressure on the QB's, RB's, and TE's to step up their games, avoid pressure, pick up blitzers, etc.

Hopefully seeing so much pressure in camp will help the game slow down when they begin playing less aggressive defenses. He's been uneven in camp so far but hopefully Wink's aggressive defense will help DJ feel more comfortable under pressure. Likely it's just wishful thinking though...

I've thought a lot about this. I think it is going to help a ton.

Good point about the benefit of the O practicing against them, and the D should also get off the field more quickly on avg., compared to recent yrs., resulting in the O having more possessions, higher TOP and probably getting the ball with better field position on avg.

Also, assuming Wink's D gives up fewer points compared to recent yrs (his Raven's D was consistently at the top of pts allowed), not having to frequently play from behind, should also help the O.

smart post

I do not know enough about blocking techniques.....but new OL coach always seems to bring in a new technique.

I understand the starting OL must be on same page, gel etc...

For example

Why not allow Thomas to improve his previous techniques....vs introduce a new one.

properly as to who is an NFL caliber player and who isn’t.

This OL should be communicating great by now, let alone when the season starts. I can't imagine going up against Graham's defense in practice. No wonder Hernandez couldn't pick up a stunt.

Remains to be seen how much it truly helps.

And not being exhausted in the 2nd half cause you were on the field for 2/3 of the first half.

Although I'm not sure it's necessarily a matter of what scheme they're going up against in practice, only because I'd hope that our coaches actually put in some prep for the opponents' schemes rather than just practicing their own systems against each other, regardless of the opponent they were preparing to face.

Where I think it helps is just the overall level of coaching (and talent) being improved creates a situation where the players are practicing against a more prepared teammate on the other side and they elevate each other's game in the process. But if the Giants' O was only facing the Giants' D scheme in practice (and vice versa) the past couple of years, no wonder neither side of the ball had any clue what to do when faced with any sort of wrinkle in an actual game.

In comment 15774704 JoeMorrison40 said:

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And not being exhausted in the 2nd half cause you were on the field for 2/3 of the first half.

The Giants' first half TOP wasn't as bad as you think. The defense was generally failing because they were less talented in key areas, not so much because they were gassed (not to mention all the extra conditioning they should have had because of Judge's laps).

it’s a matter of learning how to pick up stunts and in some cases technique. I think the D will help this Oline and they will eventually get it together. It’s only been a few weeks. I’m sure by mid-season we’ll see a vastly improved Oline.

Thrilled Wink's here and I believe he's arguably the best DC in the league.

However, installing plays and getting meaningful practice reps against a Wink D seems difficult. The looks he's giving are not preparing you for the regular season. He's a unicorn. He is not a call off the dogs guy and he's got a job to do too, as he's reminded Daboll.

He is angling for a HC job and he needs a dominant D to get one.

Te communication on the OL is sure to improve as a result. Ultimately though, it does come down to talent.

Sharpens Iron. I believe it will help a whole lot honestly, and that is because our offense won’t be surprised going up against any other aggressive defense will have seen it all

In comment 15774557 Eric from BBI said:

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I've thought a lot about this. I think it is going to help a ton.

Ha, I was thinking the opposite. But I really cannot decide.

It will definitely help Jones,and all the other players..I can only give one instance in my 80yrs of walking on planet earth..I learned how to play tennis starting at age 32..At age 35,I was pretty good..I have never been fast of foot..Enjoyed playing in some tournaments,at WVU etc..Liked playing partners..That helped me because of my slow running ability..I was,and am still in good shape..5'10" 165lbs..So back to my tennis..We were to play a match against 2 HS kids..I practice against college tennis players,so I knew what then could do as far as foot speed goes..So we start playing against these 2 HS kids..Both played really well..We got beat,but not because of they played better tennis but because one of them was a Football RB,and he had 4.3 or 4.4 speed..Wecould not hit a ball past or drop shot that he could not get to.
His speed made me lose the match..Never ever played against anyone that came anywhere near the speed of this kid..So I know personally how speed kills in sports..DJ and company better learn real quick,because if they can't handle our defence in practice, it will be a long year again..

Just as Grahams defense didn’t get better practicing against our woeful OL, is it possible that Wink’s defense looks better than it is going up against our work in process line with 3.5 new players?

But all things being equal, it’s got to be better to practice harder and smarter. The staff seems to be on right track for sure.

as it appears they are being abused on a daily basis.