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NFT: Reds at Mets Game 1. Bassitt

ZGiants98 : 8/8/2022 7:19 pm
Tonight’s #Mets lineup

Nimmo CF
Marte RF
Lindor SS
Alonso 1B
Vogelbach DH
McNeil 2B
Naquin LF
Escobar 3B
McCann C
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Bassitt RHP

LGM!
2 run HR for  
ZGiants98 : 8/8/2022 7:20 pm : link
Marte!
No Gary  
JayBinQueens : 8/8/2022 7:24 pm : link
:(
RE: No Gary  
JayBinQueens : 8/8/2022 7:26 pm : link
In comment 15775215 JayBinQueens said:
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Weird. The stream I was watching had the radio announcers over the tv video.
RE: 2 run HR for  
Chris684 : 8/8/2022 7:32 pm : link
In comment 15775211 ZGiants98 said:
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Marte!


He hasn’t been talked about a lot but other than Scherzer he is my favorite pickup this year. He is the perfect hitter for the 2 hole and seems like a great teammate and leader.
Marte was a massive addition  
ZGiants98 : 8/8/2022 7:35 pm : link
for sure.
Good Lord was Vogelbach  
ZGiants98 : 8/8/2022 8:00 pm : link
a massive pickup. Pun intended.
Favorite 2022 additions ranked.  
ZGiants98 : 8/8/2022 8:04 pm : link
Scherzer
Vogelbach
Marte
Bassitt
Ottavino
Canha
Nyquin
Ruf
Givens
Escobar
Bassitt might seriously be in the pen for the postseason  
ZGiants98 : 8/8/2022 8:19 pm : link
He's been great but he's 5th in his own rotation in FIP. Having Megill and Bassitt both in the pen could be pretty nasty.
RE: Favorite 2022 additions ranked.  
speedywheels : 8/8/2022 8:20 pm : link
In comment 15775242 ZGiants98 said:
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Scherzer
Vogelbach
Marte
Bassitt
Ottavino
Canha
Nyquin
Ruf
Givens
Escobar


That's a good ranked list. Escobar has been such a brutal pick up. Glad to see that Buck is not only sitting him more, but when he does play him, he bats 8th.
I still dont hate Escobar  
ZGiants98 : 8/8/2022 8:25 pm : link
He still provides a little pop and some decent D at 3B. He also didnt cost much. Glad he's mostly a bench guy now, but still dont really hate the move.
Wow, what a throw by McCann  
speedywheels : 8/8/2022 8:29 pm : link
great slide by the runner to beat it, but throw was money
Any of you guys go to Citi Field often and park?  
Metnut : 8/8/2022 8:32 pm : link
Mets website shows the A-F lots but my friend’s parking ticket says P9. Any idea what that means?
RE: RE: No Gary  
PakistanPete : 8/8/2022 8:33 pm : link
In comment 15775217 JayBinQueens said:
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Weird. The stream I was watching had the radio announcers over the tv video.


That's an option on MLB.TV, so they may have been streaming that.
Damn  
PakistanPete : 8/8/2022 8:40 pm : link
Lindor robbed
Whew! Glad to get out of that inning  
Ira : 8/8/2022 9:00 pm : link
.
What a fantastic performance by Bassitt  
moze1021 : 8/8/2022 9:38 pm : link
8 gutsy innings.. tremendous

Now gotta secure the W for him and bullpen is nice and fresh tomorrow
What a performance by Bassitt  
Mike in NY : 8/8/2022 9:42 pm : link
Surprised that Buck had him pitch the 8th as he was nearing 100 pitches going in and was facing Cindy’s toughest bats after injuries.
Say Goodnight Gracie  
Dennis : 8/8/2022 9:53 pm : link
Naquin triples, 2 runs score, and it's 5-0, Mets.
Naquin  
Rory : 8/8/2022 9:55 pm : link
coming through against his old team.

Awesome pick up Sandy/Eppler
RE: Say Goodnight Gracie  
Dennis : 8/8/2022 9:55 pm : link
In comment 15775299 Dennis said
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Naquin triples, 2 runs score, and it's 5-0, Mets.


If you extrapolate from the last week, Eppler got good value, and did the right thing.
RE: RE: Say Goodnight Gracie  
Mike in NY : 8/8/2022 9:57 pm : link
In comment 15775301 Dennis said:
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In comment 15775299 Dennis said


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Naquin triples, 2 runs score, and it's 5-0, Mets.



If you extrapolate from the last week, Eppler got good value, and did the right thing.


Still think Ruf was an overpay for someone who blocks Mark Vientos. Would have preferred getting involved with a trade for someone like Rasiel Iglesias instead.
RE: What a fantastic performance by Bassitt  
Rory : 8/8/2022 9:58 pm : link
In comment 15775290 moze1021 said:
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8 gutsy innings.. tremendous

Now gotta secure the W for him and bullpen is nice and fresh tomorrow


we are going to need them rested for the Phills, the bullseye is on the Mets right now.
RE: RE: RE: Say Goodnight Gracie  
Rory : 8/8/2022 10:01 pm : link
In comment 15775304 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 15775299 Dennis said


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Naquin triples, 2 runs score, and it's 5-0, Mets.



If you extrapolate from the last week, Eppler got good value, and did the right thing.



Still think Ruf was an overpay for someone who blocks Mark Vientos. Would have preferred getting involved with a trade for someone like Rasiel Iglesias instead.


yea but think about it, from a strategic standpoint it gives us a counter if teams bring in a LH to get Vogelbach out of the game. They know we will just switch to Ruff now so less of that thought process.

Also Ruff has been a force already so if we are truly in going for it mode it was a necessary trade.
Did Gary just say we've won 14 of the last 15?  
Dennis : 8/8/2022 10:03 pm : link
Is that right?
RE: Did Gary just say we've won 14 of the last 15?  
Rory : 8/8/2022 10:09 pm : link
In comment 15775311 Dennis said:
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Is that right?


13 i think
...And we go 7 up on the Braves  
Dennis : 8/8/2022 10:09 pm : link
I think our largest lead was 10 1/2?
Poor Braves.
RE: RE: RE: Say Goodnight Gracie  
ZGiants98 : 8/8/2022 10:09 pm : link
In comment 15775304 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 15775301 Dennis said:


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In comment 15775299 Dennis said


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Naquin triples, 2 runs score, and it's 5-0, Mets.



If you extrapolate from the last week, Eppler got good value, and did the right thing.



Still think Ruf was an overpay for someone who blocks Mark Vientos. Would have preferred getting involved with a trade for someone like Rasiel Iglesias instead.


We desperately needed a RH hitter that hits lefties. This is a WS caliber roster. You dont screw around and "hope" Vientos can fill that role. Going after an established vet was absolutely the right move.
Another easy win  
ZGiants98 : 8/8/2022 10:09 pm : link
So easy its boring! LFGM!
RE: RE: Did Gary just say we've won 14 of the last 15?  
Dennis : 8/8/2022 10:10 pm : link
In comment 15775312 Rory said:
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Is that right?



13 i think


Thanks, Rory
I wonder what the 86's teams' record was at this point in the  
Dennis : 8/8/2022 10:14 pm : link
Season?
I'll try to look it up.
RE: RE: RE: Say Goodnight Gracie  
Snablats : 8/8/2022 10:16 pm : link
In comment 15775304 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 15775299 Dennis said


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Naquin triples, 2 runs score, and it's 5-0, Mets.



If you extrapolate from the last week, Eppler got good value, and did the right thing.



Still think Ruf was an overpay for someone who blocks Mark Vientos. Would have preferred getting involved with a trade for someone like Rasiel Iglesias instead.

They clearly dont believe in Vientos or would have brought him up countless times. Once Ruf was acquired, Vientos should have been traded for relief help
RE: I wonder what the 86's teams' record was at this point in the  
Dennis : 8/8/2022 10:17 pm : link
In comment 15775318 Dennis said:
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Season?
I'll try to look it up.


On 8/8/86, the 86 Mets were 71-35
Vientos will work in next year some and eventually replace Ruf  
ZGiants98 : 8/8/2022 10:18 pm : link
Im glad he's still around.
RE: RE: I wonder what the 86's teams' record was at this point in the  
Dennis : 8/8/2022 10:20 pm : link
In comment 15775320 Dennis said:
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Season?
I'll try to look it up.



On 8/8/86, the 86 Mets were 71-35


And this year, 71-39.
RE: RE: Favorite 2022 additions ranked.  
Everyone Relax : 8/8/2022 10:20 pm : link
In comment 15775251 speedywheels said:
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Scherzer
Vogelbach
Marte
Bassitt
Ottavino
Canha
Nyquin
Ruf
Givens
Escobar



That's a good ranked list. Escobar has been such a brutal pick up. Glad to see that Buck is not only sitting him more, but when he does play him, he bats 8th.


I know BVW was hamstrung by a bunch of broke shmucks but his lone contribution to the team was Diaz (whom if you remember was so bad at one point he was rumored to be on the trade block 2 years ago).
RE: RE: RE: I wonder what the 86's teams' record was at this point in the  
Dennis : 8/8/2022 10:24 pm : link
In comment 15775322 Dennis said:
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Season?
I'll try to look it up.



On 8/8/86, the 86 Mets were 71-35



And this year, 71-39.


Mets now have the 2nd best record in the majors, only behind the Dodgers.
Remember when we were 10 games behind the Yankees?
I was at Wrigley for the doubleheader sweep on 8/6/86  
Snablats : 8/8/2022 10:32 pm : link
George Foster's last Mets appearance
Starling Marte has been such an underrated force  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/8/2022 10:38 pm : link
Hitting .336 with an ops of
906 over the last 15 games??
RE: I was at Wrigley for the doubleheader sweep on 8/6/86  
Dennis : 8/8/2022 10:41 pm : link
In comment 15775329 Snablats said:
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George Foster's last Mets appearance


Snablats, I'm envious. I was in Seattle for 40 years and didn't get to see them in person.
RE: Starling Marte has been such an underrated force  
sshin05 : 8/8/2022 10:43 pm : link
In comment 15775331 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Hitting .336 with an ops of
906 over the last 15 games??


The stat was last 32 games actually
lol  
sshin05 : 8/8/2022 10:43 pm : link
RE: lol  
Dennis : 8/8/2022 10:46 pm : link
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LOL.
RE: Naquin  
speedywheels : 8/8/2022 10:49 pm : link
In comment 15775300 Rory said:
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coming through against his old team.

Awesome pick up Sandy/Eppler


Sandy only makes the moves that fail; Eppler makes the ones that work.
A full seven game lead.  
speedywheels : 8/8/2022 10:51 pm : link
Still a long way to go, but helluva lot better than being seven behind…

Now pound PHI this weekend and bury them…
RE: RE: Naquin  
Rory : 8/8/2022 10:57 pm : link
In comment 15775336 speedywheels said:
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coming through against his old team.

Awesome pick up Sandy/Eppler



Sandy only makes the moves that fail; Eppler makes the ones that work.


haha oh right, what was I thinking.
Naquin, vogelbach, and ruf are such dodgers-like pickups  
Eric on Li : 8/9/2022 12:20 am : link
and Marte has to be in contention for best year 1 of NYM free agent since Ventura. Not even sure who else is close.

here's some good perspective on this year's squad vs recent teams:

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New York Mets Stats
@NYMStats
Through 110 games:
2022: 71-39, 528 RS, 413 RA
2021: 57-53, 419 RS, 431 RA
2019: 54-56, 518 RS, 531 RA
2018: 46-64, 430 RS, 514 RA
2017: 50-60, 517 RS, 580 RA
2016: 56-54, 410 RS, 399 RA
2015: 59-51, 406 RS, 391 RA


pitching not quite on the 2015/2016 level but it possibly gets there with JDG back. i was surprised to see the 17 and 19 offenses were similarly productive but those groups also had some butchers in the field, this is the most fundamentally sound group since 99.

elsewhere JDD is off to a nice start with SFG and im glad he's getting an every day shot. 4 hits in his first 4 starts, 2 of them homers. that was a savvy trade by SFG. ruf is a better fit for what the mets need but they got a good player who is younger and will possibly outplay whatever ruf would have done for them this year (plus the other stuff).
Bassitt going 8 is a very big deal in terms of giving our pen a rest.  
Ira : 8/9/2022 5:02 am : link
Playing a double header on Saturday and not having Monday off could have been rough on the pen, but they should be in good shape now.
RE: Naquin, vogelbach, and ruf are such dodgers-like pickups  
jpkmets : 8/9/2022 9:39 am : link
In comment 15775352 Eric on Li said:
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and Marte has to be in contention for best year 1 of NYM free agent since Ventura. Not even sure who else is close.

here's some good perspective on this year's squad vs recent teams:



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New York Mets Stats
@NYMStats
Through 110 games:
2022: 71-39, 528 RS, 413 RA
2021: 57-53, 419 RS, 431 RA
2019: 54-56, 518 RS, 531 RA
2018: 46-64, 430 RS, 514 RA
2017: 50-60, 517 RS, 580 RA
2016: 56-54, 410 RS, 399 RA
2015: 59-51, 406 RS, 391 RA



pitching not quite on the 2015/2016 level but it possibly gets there with JDG back. i was surprised to see the 17 and 19 offenses were similarly productive but those groups also had some butchers in the field, this is the most fundamentally sound group since 99.

elsewhere JDD is off to a nice start with SFG and im glad he's getting an every day shot. 4 hits in his first 4 starts, 2 of them homers. that was a savvy trade by SFG. ruf is a better fit for what the mets need but they got a good player who is younger and will possibly outplay whatever ruf would have done for them this year (plus the other stuff).


I wouldn’t say the pitching is off from 15/16 by that stat. DH makes a difference in navigating NL lineups now. No more free outs.
RE: RE: Naquin, vogelbach, and ruf are such dodgers-like pickups  
moze1021 : 8/9/2022 10:04 am : link
In comment 15775504 jpkmets said:
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In comment 15775352 Eric on Li said:


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and Marte has to be in contention for best year 1 of NYM free agent since Ventura. Not even sure who else is close.

here's some good perspective on this year's squad vs recent teams:



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New York Mets Stats
@NYMStats
Through 110 games:
2022: 71-39, 528 RS, 413 RA
2021: 57-53, 419 RS, 431 RA
2019: 54-56, 518 RS, 531 RA
2018: 46-64, 430 RS, 514 RA
2017: 50-60, 517 RS, 580 RA
2016: 56-54, 410 RS, 399 RA
2015: 59-51, 406 RS, 391 RA



pitching not quite on the 2015/2016 level but it possibly gets there with JDG back. i was surprised to see the 17 and 19 offenses were similarly productive but those groups also had some butchers in the field, this is the most fundamentally sound group since 99.

elsewhere JDD is off to a nice start with SFG and im glad he's getting an every day shot. 4 hits in his first 4 starts, 2 of them homers. that was a savvy trade by SFG. ruf is a better fit for what the mets need but they got a good player who is younger and will possibly outplay whatever ruf would have done for them this year (plus the other stuff).



I wouldn’t say the pitching is off from 15/16 by that stat. DH makes a difference in navigating NL lineups now. No more free outs.


Great point! Probably would need to look at comps vs league averages to compare year to year..

But I think one key takeaway is you need both the strong offense AND strong pitching to be elite.

In '15, the offense really took off in 2H which is why the team made it to the WS..

Last year, as we all knew, the offense was a massive problem. All we needed was offense on par with '19 and '20 and it was a playoff team
RE: RE: RE: Naquin, vogelbach, and ruf are such dodgers-like pickups  
jpkmets : 8/9/2022 10:17 am : link
In comment 15775547 moze1021 said:
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In comment 15775504 jpkmets said:


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In comment 15775352 Eric on Li said:


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and Marte has to be in contention for best year 1 of NYM free agent since Ventura. Not even sure who else is close.

here's some good perspective on this year's squad vs recent teams:



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New York Mets Stats
@NYMStats
Through 110 games:
2022: 71-39, 528 RS, 413 RA
2021: 57-53, 419 RS, 431 RA
2019: 54-56, 518 RS, 531 RA
2018: 46-64, 430 RS, 514 RA
2017: 50-60, 517 RS, 580 RA
2016: 56-54, 410 RS, 399 RA
2015: 59-51, 406 RS, 391 RA



pitching not quite on the 2015/2016 level but it possibly gets there with JDG back. i was surprised to see the 17 and 19 offenses were similarly productive but those groups also had some butchers in the field, this is the most fundamentally sound group since 99.

elsewhere JDD is off to a nice start with SFG and im glad he's getting an every day shot. 4 hits in his first 4 starts, 2 of them homers. that was a savvy trade by SFG. ruf is a better fit for what the mets need but they got a good player who is younger and will possibly outplay whatever ruf would have done for them this year (plus the other stuff).



I wouldn’t say the pitching is off from 15/16 by that stat. DH makes a difference in navigating NL lineups now. No more free outs.



Great point! Probably would need to look at comps vs league averages to compare year to year..

But I think one key takeaway is you need both the strong offense AND strong pitching to be elite.

In '15, the offense really took off in 2H which is why the team made it to the WS..

Last year, as we all knew, the offense was a massive problem. All we needed was offense on par with '19 and '20 and it was a playoff team


Yup, it was downright offensive. This team feels relentless and professional. Up there with my favorite Mets teams to watch night in and night out. Really feels just locked in!
RE: RE: Naquin, vogelbach, and ruf are such dodgers-like pickups  
Eric on Li : 8/9/2022 11:44 am : link
In comment 15775504 jpkmets said:
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In comment 15775352 Eric on Li said:


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and Marte has to be in contention for best year 1 of NYM free agent since Ventura. Not even sure who else is close.

here's some good perspective on this year's squad vs recent teams:



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New York Mets Stats
@NYMStats
Through 110 games:
2022: 71-39, 528 RS, 413 RA
2021: 57-53, 419 RS, 431 RA
2019: 54-56, 518 RS, 531 RA
2018: 46-64, 430 RS, 514 RA
2017: 50-60, 517 RS, 580 RA
2016: 56-54, 410 RS, 399 RA
2015: 59-51, 406 RS, 391 RA



pitching not quite on the 2015/2016 level but it possibly gets there with JDG back. i was surprised to see the 17 and 19 offenses were similarly productive but those groups also had some butchers in the field, this is the most fundamentally sound group since 99.

elsewhere JDD is off to a nice start with SFG and im glad he's getting an every day shot. 4 hits in his first 4 starts, 2 of them homers. that was a savvy trade by SFG. ruf is a better fit for what the mets need but they got a good player who is younger and will possibly outplay whatever ruf would have done for them this year (plus the other stuff).



I wouldn’t say the pitching is off from 15/16 by that stat. DH makes a difference in navigating NL lineups now. No more free outs.


that's a good point but i would still say the SP was better in 2015. harvey/jdg/thor were a 3 headed monster with crazy stuff and none had any injury issues. 2016 they regressed because of injuries so despite the stats i agree, would take this year's rotation.
RE: RE: RE: Naquin, vogelbach, and ruf are such dodgers-like pickups  
Eric on Li : 8/9/2022 11:50 am : link
In comment 15775547 moze1021 said:
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In comment 15775504 jpkmets said:


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In comment 15775352 Eric on Li said:


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and Marte has to be in contention for best year 1 of NYM free agent since Ventura. Not even sure who else is close.

here's some good perspective on this year's squad vs recent teams:



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New York Mets Stats
@NYMStats
Through 110 games:
2022: 71-39, 528 RS, 413 RA
2021: 57-53, 419 RS, 431 RA
2019: 54-56, 518 RS, 531 RA
2018: 46-64, 430 RS, 514 RA
2017: 50-60, 517 RS, 580 RA
2016: 56-54, 410 RS, 399 RA
2015: 59-51, 406 RS, 391 RA



pitching not quite on the 2015/2016 level but it possibly gets there with JDG back. i was surprised to see the 17 and 19 offenses were similarly productive but those groups also had some butchers in the field, this is the most fundamentally sound group since 99.

elsewhere JDD is off to a nice start with SFG and im glad he's getting an every day shot. 4 hits in his first 4 starts, 2 of them homers. that was a savvy trade by SFG. ruf is a better fit for what the mets need but they got a good player who is younger and will possibly outplay whatever ruf would have done for them this year (plus the other stuff).



I wouldn’t say the pitching is off from 15/16 by that stat. DH makes a difference in navigating NL lineups now. No more free outs.



Great point! Probably would need to look at comps vs league averages to compare year to year..

But I think one key takeaway is you need both the strong offense AND strong pitching to be elite.

In '15, the offense really took off in 2H which is why the team made it to the WS..

Last year, as we all knew, the offense was a massive problem. All we needed was offense on par with '19 and '20 and it was a playoff team


agreed. last year there was no cohesive offensive strategy, likely because there were basically 4 different GMs. BVW's coaching staff was inherited because the sale closed after FA already began, Sandy was the temporary GM while they looked for a GM, Porter was the GM when they made the Lindor trade, and then Zack Scott became interim GM a few weeks before pitchers and catchers.

this year from the additions they made in FA, to buck, and through the moves they made at the deadline there's a cohesiveness that wasn't there last year.
Mets’ Strength of Schedule Going Down The Stretch  
Dennis : 8/9/2022 4:03 pm : link
"Looking ahead, the Mets’ schedule ranks as seventh easiest in MLB for the rest of the season, while the Braves’ upcoming agenda of games ranks as the 13th softest. The Phillies, who are hanging around and have been hot, play the ninth lightest schedule until the end of the season."
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RE: Mets’ Strength of Schedule Going Down The Stretch  
Dennis : 8/9/2022 4:08 pm : link
"Looking ahead, the Mets’ schedule ranks as seventh easiest in MLB for the rest of the season, while the Braves’ upcoming agenda of games ranks as the 13th softest. The Phillies, who are hanging around and have been hot, play the ninth lightest schedule until the end of the season."


"Overall, the Braves’ competition over their last 52 games posts a .496 winning percentage, while the Mets will face teams with a combined .479 winning percentage, per Tankathon."
RE: RE: Mets’ Strength of Schedule Going Down The Stretch  
Dennis : 8/9/2022 4:11 pm : link
"Looking ahead, the Mets’ schedule ranks as seventh easiest in MLB for the rest of the season, while the Braves’ upcoming agenda of games ranks as the 13th softest. The Phillies, who are hanging around and have been hot, play the ninth lightest schedule until the end of the season."


"Overall, the Braves’ competition over their last 52 games posts a .496 winning percentage, while the Mets will face teams with a combined .479 winning percentage, per Tankathon."


"The Mets have not had a losing month in 2022, with their 13-12 record in June their weakest month thus far. Since the All-Star break, the Mets are 13-4. The guys in orange and blue are also 35-18 at Citi Field, yet another reason home field advantage will be important."
Mets Notes  
Dennis : 8/9/2022 4:49 pm : link
"Mets Notes
The Mets have won 13 of their last 15 games, including four straight contests coming into Tuesday
Pete Alonso has reached base in 16 of his 17 plate appearances against left-handed pitchers since the All-Star break, hitting 9-for-10 (.900) in that stretch
Mets pitchers lead the majors with 1,048 strikeouts this season (a franchise record for the first 110 games of a season), and they've struck out 15 or more hitters in a game eight times this season
Jeff McNeil is currently riding an 11-game hitting streak, batting .404 with two homers, six doubles and eight runs scored during that time"
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