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Jints in Carolina : 8/10/2022 1:44 pm
NYY
DJ LeMahieu (R) 2B
Aaron Judge (R) RF
Anthony Rizzo (L) 1B
Josh Donaldson (R) 3B
Gleyber Torres (R) DH
Aaron Hicks (S) CF
Miguel Andujar (R) LF
Isiah Kiner-Falefa (R) SS
Kyle Higashioka (R) C

Cortes vs Ray

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section125 : 8/10/2022 7:03 pm : link
In comment 15777031 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Is Severino coming back this season?


Yes. He is on 60 day IL, but he was pissed because I think he had started to throw.
So September he should be back. They are innings saving with him.
RE: Looked like Nestor had his best stuff of the year today  
The_Boss : 8/10/2022 7:03 pm : link
In comment 15777033 The_Boss said:
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Throwing gas too (94 mph). Left with a 3-1 lead in the 7th and Abreu flushes it down the toilet.


3-2..
section125.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/10/2022 7:04 pm : link
Thanks.
RE: 15 and 20 since July1  
The_Boss : 8/10/2022 7:07 pm : link
In comment 15777034 Rick in Dallas said:
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The Yankees playoff wart timely hitting with RISP rearing its ugly head.
It will get worse in the playoffs when they face good pitching everyday.
How does Cashman get away with the same shit over the past 5 years???
Roster construction a real issue for a long time now
Injuries no excuse


If they don’t make the WS (and right now I don’t think they will), I think it’s finally time to move on from Cashman.
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arcarsenal : 8/10/2022 7:08 pm : link
This is pretty bad stuff. The pitchers simply do not hold leads. Almost every single time we've gotten one lately, the starter or relievers have promptly returned the favor in the same inning (or top half of the following one)

Can't just keep playing shit baseball like this and expect a switch to flip. Has to change.

Really wasted an absolute gem from Nestor. Damn shame.
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The_Boss : 8/10/2022 7:10 pm : link
In comment 15777044 arcarsenal said:
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This is pretty bad stuff. The pitchers simply do not hold leads. Almost every single time we've gotten one lately, the starter or relievers have promptly returned the favor in the same inning (or top half of the following one)

Can't just keep playing shit baseball like this and expect a switch to flip. Has to change.

Really wasted an absolute gem from Nestor. Damn shame.


I don’t recall a start this year where he was throwing this well. Damn shame indeed.
Look, these games are MEANINGLESS  
Stan in LA : 8/10/2022 7:22 pm : link
Yanks have one of the 2 bye's in the bag. Let's see what happens in October.
I’m putting that loss completely on Boone and Higgy.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/10/2022 7:23 pm : link
(Yes, I know Higgy had the big HR.) Boone can’t pull Cortes after 93 pitches to put in Albert fucking Abreu. LET THE FUCKING GUY PITCH!!!!! Nasty Nes gave up a single through the hole, then got screwed by a combination of shitty umpiring and Higgy committing a horrific passed ball. Then Higgy is letting a washed up turd like Carlos Santana beat Abreu with his WORST PITCH by a mile, the change???

Whenever Boone has to think on his own, the odds aren’t great.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/10/2022 7:25 pm : link
They're meaningless? I'm not a Yankees fan/baseball savant, but I occasionally check Yankees game threads on BBI & a lot of people seem to be worried about Houston having HFA if the two were to meet in October. And I hate Houston.
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shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/10/2022 7:25 pm : link
In comment 15777029 section125 said:
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Yea maybe the pitchers should think about not throwing the off speed over the plate. You think



That, too. But how about not trying to be cute and throw the FB that the guy cannot hit. Too many times this year.



Bingo. Abreu getting beaten with his worst pitch to a shitty hitter is just head scratching.
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arcarsenal : 8/10/2022 7:26 pm : link
Losing Michael King was absolutely devastating.

He was irreplaceable. Doesn’t mean the season is over, but this team misses him badly. He was our best reliever.
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The_Boss : 8/10/2022 7:29 pm : link
In comment 15777058 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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They're meaningless? I'm not a Yankees fan/baseball savant, but I occasionally check Yankees game threads on BBI & a lot of people seem to be worried about Houston having HFA if the two were to meet in October. And I hate Houston.


Tied with Houston now.
Here’s a major issue  
The_Boss : 8/10/2022 7:32 pm : link
In a big spot, who do you trust coming out of that bullpen? Right now, for me, there isn’t one arm I trust. That can change between now and October, but right now that group isn’t very good.
The Boss.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/10/2022 7:32 pm : link
Who has the tiebreaker? Do they play again? Don't mean to miller Yankees thread with 'Duh!' ?s, Haha. But I'm curious.

I'm pulling for a Yankees-Mets WS.
RE: The Boss.  
section125 : 8/10/2022 8:05 pm : link
In comment 15777064 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Who has the tiebreaker? Do they play again? Don't mean to miller Yankees thread with 'Duh!' ?s, Haha. But I'm curious.

I'm pulling for a Yankees-Mets WS.


Houston won the season 7-2
RE: The Boss.  
The_Boss : 8/10/2022 8:06 pm : link
In comment 15777064 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Who has the tiebreaker? Do they play again? Don't mean to miller Yankees thread with 'Duh!' ?s, Haha. But I'm curious.

I'm pulling for a Yankees-Mets WS.


No idea on tie breakers and all that. Houston plays in a few minutes. If they win, they pass the Yanks by a half game. If they lose, then the yanks are .5 ahead.
Wow, the Yankees are wheezing to the finish line  
M.S. : 8/10/2022 8:38 pm : link

They're 10 games up, but ya gotta wonder:

Do they even finish first?
RE: Here’s a major issue  
mitch300 : 8/10/2022 8:51 pm : link
In comment 15777063 The_Boss said:
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In a big spot, who do you trust coming out of that bullpen? Right now, for me, there isn’t one arm I trust. That can change between now and October, but right now that group isn’t very good.

I trust the guy they sent down. Abrew was already released by the Yankees. I can understand thinking they can fix him. When they made that decision, they didn’t know what they had in Marinaccio. Stupid. Jack Curry on the post game was saying that today’s situation would have been a perfect spot for Marinaccio.
Cortes solid again  
RasputinPrime : 8/10/2022 9:50 pm : link
we just aren't scoring as much as we need to. Anyone who thinks this BP is going to do better than what we've seen recently is kidding themselves.

As Arc notes - losing King was devastating. We didn't replace him and right now we don't have a single lockdown guy.
RE: Wow, the Yankees are wheezing to the finish line  
arcarsenal : 8/10/2022 9:53 pm : link
In comment 15777086 M.S. said:
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They're 10 games up, but ya gotta wonder:

Do they even finish first?


Yes. I'm not worried about the division. If the lead cuts down to 5-6 games, sure.. I'll start getting fairly concerned.

But that shouldn't happen. The Yankees are just not putting their best team out on the field right now and don't seem to think these games are super important.

And I'm not loving the non-answers/vagueness around Stanton. We have to have him back; the Yankees are just very dismissive about injuries and it's hard to get any idea how serious they are or aren't a lot of times. We'll hear "oh yeah, he's good just needs another day.." and then 2 weeks later, we still haven't seen him.

I don't know if this falls under the "extra cautious" category or what it is.

Thankful for an off day tomorrow. It is needed.
Fwiw  
5BowlsSoon : 8/11/2022 7:05 am : link
Gallo hit his first HR as a Dodger, a 3 run shot to help them win 8-5.
Benitendi  
Costy16 : 8/11/2022 7:57 am : link
I haven't heard his name ONCE since he was traded.
Every year this  
winoguy : 8/11/2022 8:04 am : link
team is a different story with the same ending. Hard to get overly excited about October when you know they will shit the bed against the Asstros if they even get that far. Cashman sucks. Imagine if he had to work with a salary cap?
Dog days of summer are plaguing them instead of  
chick310 : 8/11/2022 8:04 am : link
the Mets for a change who continue to charge ahead.

Yanks need a wake up call to get fired up again.
RE: Benitendi  
BigBlue2112 : 8/11/2022 8:29 am : link
In comment 15777208 Costy16 said:
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I haven't heard his name ONCE since he was traded.


Monday he was 2-4 with 2 doubles and 3 RBI and a BB.

Sorry but Boone overmanages the BP  
Sec 103 : 8/11/2022 8:58 am : link
Ya think Nestor was finished? Two games in a row he has taken him out with a lead that turned into shit. Oh well another year chasing 28 starts next year, hopefully without Boone
RE: Sorry but Boone overmanages the BP  
section125 : 8/11/2022 9:06 am : link
In comment 15777262 Sec 103 said:
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Ya think Nestor was finished? Two games in a row he has taken him out with a lead that turned into shit. Oh well another year chasing 28 starts next year, hopefully without Boone


Yeah, Nestor was pretty much cooked at that point.
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GiantGrit : 8/11/2022 11:21 am : link
In comment 15777061 arcarsenal said:
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Losing Michael King was absolutely devastating.

He was irreplaceable. Doesn’t mean the season is over, but this team misses him badly. He was our best reliever.


Said the same thing in my Yankees group chat this morning. Green to a lesser extent even if you don't like him.

King going down did not get enough attention that was a huge blow.
RE: Dog days of summer are plaguing them instead of  
GiantGrit : 8/11/2022 11:24 am : link
In comment 15777214 chick310 said:
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the Mets for a change who continue to charge ahead.

Yanks need a wake up call to get fired up again.


This wasn't anything to crazy but sometimes you need someone to kick you when your down...
Mariners' Sewald takes dig at Yankees - ( New Window )
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section125 : 8/11/2022 11:28 am : link
In comment 15777415 GiantGrit said:
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In comment 15777061 arcarsenal said:


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Losing Michael King was absolutely devastating.

He was irreplaceable. Doesn’t mean the season is over, but this team misses him badly. He was our best reliever.



Said the same thing in my Yankees group chat this morning. Green to a lesser extent even if you don't like him.

King going down did not get enough attention that was a huge blow.


Not for nothing, but King was starting to falter just before th AS break. He and Holmes at about the same time started losing their BB control...in fact Wandy Peralta also started to get dinged, too.
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arcarsenal : 8/11/2022 11:50 am : link
Faltering?

King had a 0.89 ERA from the start of June right up to the ASB.

Can't say I agree with that at all. He had 0 walks in the final 4 appearances prior.

King was able to go multiple innings and was our fireman. I really don't think that loss can be understated.
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arcarsenal : 8/11/2022 12:06 pm : link
The Yanks have won 71 games and only 3 of those wins came where they hit less HR than the opponent.

Really not psyched that this team is still so HR-reliant.

They don't hit in big spots or against top-flight pitchers. Won't go anywhere in October if that doesn't change.
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bluesince56 : 8/11/2022 12:34 pm : link
In comment 15777455 arcarsenal said:
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The Yanks have won 71 games and only 3 of those wins came where they hit less HR than the opponent.

Really not psyched that this team is still so HR-reliant.

They don't hit in big spots or against top-flight pitchers. Won't go anywhere in October if that doesn't change.


Totally agree
RE: RE: Sorry but Boone overmanages the BP  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/11/2022 12:51 pm : link
In comment 15777275 section125 said:
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Ya think Nestor was finished? Two games in a row he has taken him out with a lead that turned into shit. Oh well another year chasing 28 starts next year, hopefully without Boone



Yeah, Nestor was pretty much cooked at that point.


Why? He gave up 2 hits in the inning and the first was opposite the shifted infield. The only reason the runner was in scoring position was a horrendous passed ball by Higgy. But more importantly, they were bringing in Albert Abreu. I didn’t get the impression that he was “cooked”.
Per Twitter  
Mike from SI : 8/11/2022 4:51 pm : link
they asked Boone if there's any plan to call up Peraza soon and he said no. So...f*** us, I guess. IKF and his .623 OPS will continue to play most days, it seems.
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arcarsenal : 8/11/2022 8:39 pm : link
Schmidt went 6 hitless/scoreless innings for SWB tonight with 11 K's.

His next start absolutely needs to be up with the Yankees.
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Mike from SI : 8/11/2022 8:40 pm : link
In comment 15778272 arcarsenal said:
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Schmidt went 6 hitless/scoreless innings for SWB tonight with 11 K's.

His next start absolutely needs to be up with the Yankees.


No because we need to save a roster spot for Albert Abreu apparently.
RE: RE: RE: Sorry but Boone overmanages the BP  
section125 : 8/11/2022 8:46 pm : link
In comment 15777523 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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Ya think Nestor was finished? Two games in a row he has taken him out with a lead that turned into shit. Oh well another year chasing 28 starts next year, hopefully without Boone



Yeah, Nestor was pretty much cooked at that point.



Why? He gave up 2 hits in the inning and the first was opposite the shifted infield. The only reason the runner was in scoring position was a horrendous passed ball by Higgy. But more importantly, they were bringing in Albert Abreu. I didn’t get the impression that he was “cooked”.


He was cooked. If you watched Nestor you could see he was laboring and could not hit his spots and his pitches were starting to come up.
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arcarsenal : 8/11/2022 8:51 pm : link
In comment 15778278 Mike from SI said:
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Schmidt went 6 hitless/scoreless innings for SWB tonight with 11 K's.

His next start absolutely needs to be up with the Yankees.



No because we need to save a roster spot for Albert Abreu apparently.


Lol, yeah probably. So stupid. Loaisiga has one option left, maybe use it there unless they want to use it for Marinaccio.

Something's gotta give here. I think they need to seriously consider going the DFA route on Abreu or Luetge to make room for Schmidt and Marinaccio.

Those two guys cannot continue to rot in Scranton. They're better than half the arms we have up here.
especially since Marinaccio and Schmidt  
wigs in nyc : 8/11/2022 8:53 pm : link
are 27 and 26, respectively. these aren’t some 20-year-old flashes in the pan. these are grown ass men throwing absolute bullets. At some point this year it would be great if the Yanks tried tof ield their actual best 26, but it doesn’t sound like it’ll happen (IKF over Peraza.)
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section125 : 8/11/2022 8:54 pm : link
In comment 15778314 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 15778272 arcarsenal said:


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Schmidt went 6 hitless/scoreless innings for SWB tonight with 11 K's.

His next start absolutely needs to be up with the Yankees.



No because we need to save a roster spot for Albert Abreu apparently.



Lol, yeah probably. So stupid. Loaisiga has one option left, maybe use it there unless they want to use it for Marinaccio.

Something's gotta give here. I think they need to seriously consider going the DFA route on Abreu or Luetge to make room for Schmidt and Marinaccio.

Those two guys cannot continue to rot in Scranton. They're better than half the arms we have up here.


Abreu is not a bad pitcher.
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arcarsenal : 8/11/2022 9:13 pm : link
section.. .look at the % of inherited runners Abreu has allowed to score. His ERA is misleading. He's not good and he's noticeably regressing.
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arcarsenal : 8/11/2022 9:17 pm : link
Per Katie Sharp..

Albert Abreu has allowed 6 of 9 (67%) inherited baserunners to score this season.

MLB avg rate is 32%

He's not good. There's a reason why the Rangers and Royals let him go.
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section125 : 8/11/2022 9:25 pm : link
In comment 15778372 arcarsenal said:
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section.. .look at the % of inherited runners Abreu has allowed to score. His ERA is misleading. He's not good and he's noticeably regressing.


I do not look at the stats. The guy can throw. I dislike the pitching calling with him - like a changeup with a guy that cannot hit a FB.
But that is a bad percentage.
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Mike from SI : 8/11/2022 9:42 pm : link
In comment 15778398 section125 said:
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section.. .look at the % of inherited runners Abreu has allowed to score. His ERA is misleading. He's not good and he's noticeably regressing.



I do not look at the stats. The guy can throw. I dislike the pitching calling with him - like a changeup with a guy that cannot hit a FB.
But that is a bad percentage.


Also, his career ERA is 4.38. While he does have a 2.91 ERA this year, his xERA is 4.14; his FIP is 4.71; and his xFIP is 4.40. Moreover, he is currently walking 5.56 hitters per nine, which is insanely high. His WAR this year is -0.1, meaning random minor leaguers would be slightly better. There's a reason three different teams have given up on him.

I don't mind him all that much, but you can't really use him in high leverage situations, and he's taking an active roster spot from Marinaccio, who is good.
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section125 : 8/11/2022 9:49 pm : link
In comment 15778456 Mike from SI said:
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section.. .look at the % of inherited runners Abreu has allowed to score. His ERA is misleading. He's not good and he's noticeably regressing.



I do not look at the stats. The guy can throw. I dislike the pitching calling with him - like a changeup with a guy that cannot hit a FB.
But that is a bad percentage.



Also, his career ERA is 4.38. While he does have a 2.91 ERA this year, his xERA is 4.14; his FIP is 4.71; and his xFIP is 4.40. Moreover, he is currently walking 5.56 hitters per nine, which is insanely high. His WAR this year is -0.1, meaning random minor leaguers would be slightly better. There's a reason three different teams have given up on him.

I don't mind him all that much, but you can't really use him in high leverage situations, and he's taking an active roster spot from Marinaccio, who is good.


WOW, look at all those stats. I am impressed!
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Mike from SI : 8/11/2022 10:14 pm : link
In comment 15778471 section125 said:
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section.. .look at the % of inherited runners Abreu has allowed to score. His ERA is misleading. He's not good and he's noticeably regressing.



I do not look at the stats. The guy can throw. I dislike the pitching calling with him - like a changeup with a guy that cannot hit a FB.
But that is a bad percentage.



Also, his career ERA is 4.38. While he does have a 2.91 ERA this year, his xERA is 4.14; his FIP is 4.71; and his xFIP is 4.40. Moreover, he is currently walking 5.56 hitters per nine, which is insanely high. His WAR this year is -0.1, meaning random minor leaguers would be slightly better. There's a reason three different teams have given up on him.

I don't mind him all that much, but you can't really use him in high leverage situations, and he's taking an active roster spot from Marinaccio, who is good.



WOW, look at all those stats. I am impressed!


Lol. Fiiiiiine. (That was good sarcasm, I actually laughed.)
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section125 : 8/11/2022 10:16 pm : link
In comment 15778524 Mike from SI said:
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Lol. Fiiiiiine. (That was good sarcasm, I actually laughed.)



Glad you caught that. But they really are impressive and seemingly bad.
Abreu is ok in low leverage spots  
GiantGrit : 8/11/2022 10:33 pm : link
Just can't be thrown into the fire. Based on Boone's interview today it does not seem like Peraza is coming up.

Schmidt threw 6 perfect innings today BTW. Unreal.
We have to do a better jobs of identifying core talent, keep them  
Jim in Hoboken : 8/12/2022 8:19 am : link
around to develop them, and jettisoning the rest when they still have value. We just have too many AAAA players that will end up giving us nothing.

I like Abreu, 100mph with good change and slider, but that’s the repertoire of 90% of the relievers. Loaisiga really needs to regain his old form.
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