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NFT: Yankees @ Mariners 8/10 4:10PM

Jints in Carolina : 8/10/2022 1:44 pm
NYY
DJ LeMahieu (R) 2B
Aaron Judge (R) RF
Anthony Rizzo (L) 1B
Josh Donaldson (R) 3B
Gleyber Torres (R) DH
Aaron Hicks (S) CF
Miguel Andujar (R) LF
Isiah Kiner-Falefa (R) SS
Kyle Higashioka (R) C

Cortes vs Ray

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Yankee Train Chugged Into A Tunnel  
M.S. : 8/10/2022 2:22 pm : link

Going in the wrong direction.



Any Stanton sightings ??  
averagejoe : 8/10/2022 2:33 pm : link
Do the math - in his fifth year with Yanks he has missed 40 percent of the scheduled games. But he still looks good in the gym . A bodybuilder that occasionally plays baseball .

Also - getting sick of watching Gleyber chase pitches. No discipline at plate at all. He never walks, has limited range, hits .250 . He is Horace Clark with more power and fewer SB...lol
not relevant to the game but  
TJ : 8/10/2022 2:55 pm : link
I just saw Braves for the second time this season brought up a player who started the year at high A. First it was their starting CF Michael Harris now Vaughn Grissom will play 2b.
RE: Any Stanton sightings ??  
Carson53 : 8/10/2022 3:16 pm : link
In comment 15776799 averagejoe said:
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Do the math - in his fifth year with Yanks he has missed 40 percent of the scheduled games. But he still looks good in the gym . A bodybuilder that occasionally plays baseball .

Also - getting sick of watching Gleyber chase pitches. No discipline at plate at all. He never walks, has limited range, hits .250 . He is Horace Clark with more power and fewer SB...lol
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I would say for the most part I agree, especially on Stanton, people fall in love with the lasers he may hit when he is hot, but you don't hear from the same folks when he is hurt yet again...I have said a couple times I would like them to move on from Torres in the offseason. It sounds like a few teams called on Ca$hman at the deadline on Torres.
Call them back in the offseason, he is no Horace Clarke though, Horace was 'special'. LOL
RE: RE: Any Stanton sightings ??  
Ron from Ninerland : 8/10/2022 3:32 pm : link
In comment 15776850 Carson53 said:
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Do the math - in his fifth year with Yanks he has missed 40 percent of the scheduled games. But he still looks good in the gym . A bodybuilder that occasionally plays baseball .

Also - getting sick of watching Gleyber chase pitches. No discipline at plate at all. He never walks, has limited range, hits .250 . He is Horace Clark with more power and fewer SB...lol

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I would say for the most part I agree, especially on Stanton, people fall in love with the lasers he may hit when he is hot, but you don't hear from the same folks when he is hurt yet again...I have said a couple times I would like them to move on from Torres in the offseason. It sounds like a few teams called on Ca$hman at the deadline on Torres.
Call them back in the offseason, he is no Horace Clarke though, Horace was 'special'. LOL
Funny you should mention Horace. They could have used him last night. The one thing Horace Clarke did well was run the bases. Seriously, as disappointing as Glyber has been, he's no Horace Clark. Horace was a low 200's hitter with no power. In the field, not only was he butcher, he'd misplay at the worst possible times often when the game was on the line. Later on Mike Blowers at third base was the same kind of fielder.
RE: RE: RE: Any Stanton sightings ??  
averagejoe : 8/10/2022 3:58 pm : link


Funny you should mention Horace. They could have used him last night. The one thing Horace Clarke did well was run the bases. Seriously, as disappointing as Glyber has been, he's no Horace Clark. Horace was a low 200's hitter with no power. In the field, not only was he butcher, he'd misplay at the worst possible times often when the game was on the line. Later on Mike Blowers at third base was the same kind of fielder. [/quote]

Yes - Hoss could run the bases. And wore his helmet in the field for protection...lol...

Lets not forget power hitting Jerry Kenny
feel good thread  
djm : 8/10/2022 4:38 pm : link
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RE: RE: RE: RE: Any Stanton sightings ??  
Ron from Ninerland : 8/10/2022 4:52 pm : link
In comment 15776878 averagejoe said:
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Funny you should mention Horace. They could have used him last night. The one thing Horace Clarke did well was run the bases. Seriously, as disappointing as Glyber has been, he's no Horace Clark. Horace was a low 200's hitter with no power. In the field, not only was he butcher, he'd misplay at the worst possible times often when the game was on the line. Later on Mike Blowers at third base was the same kind of fielder.


Yes - Hoss could run the bases. And wore his helmet in the field for protection...lol...

Lets not forget power hitting Jerry Kenny [/quote]Another gold glove.
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arcarsenal : 8/10/2022 5:10 pm : link
Bats are still having a rough go of it, but Nestor has been excellent so far. We're going to have a tough time pushing runs across with the bottom third of this lineup today. It's.. not great.

Gotta get into their bullpen and try to do damage there. Not getting much of anything against Ray.
So Benintendi gets rested  
nygiants16 : 8/10/2022 5:11 pm : link
after finally getting hot?
RE: RE: RE: RE: Any Stanton sightings ??  
capone : 8/10/2022 5:11 pm : link
In comment 15776878 averagejoe said:
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Funny you should mention Horace. They could have used him last night. The one thing Horace Clarke did well was run the bases. Seriously, as disappointing as Glyber has been, he's no Horace Clark. Horace was a low 200's hitter with no power. In the field, not only was he butcher, he'd misplay at the worst possible times often when the game was on the line. Later on Mike Blowers at third base was the same kind of fielder.



Fan graphs shows a neg offensive war and a postive def war fyi
Yes - Hoss could run the bases. And wore his helmet in the field for protection...lol...

Lets not forget power hitting Jerry Kenny [/quote]
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Sorry fangraphs disagrees on Horace defense  
capone : 8/10/2022 5:12 pm : link
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arcarsenal : 8/10/2022 5:14 pm : link
I imagine we'll see Benintendi PH at some point - SEA bullpen is all righties, IIRC.
Probably another loss coming up  
GFAN52 : 8/10/2022 5:46 pm : link
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RE: Probably another loss coming up  
The_Boss : 8/10/2022 5:49 pm : link
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1-0 again maybe. This offense has been shit on this trip
I don't get it..  
GruningsOnTheHill : 8/10/2022 5:54 pm : link
these pitchers aren't exactly the '66 Orioles
Where the hell are the Yankee bats???  
Rick in Dallas : 8/10/2022 5:56 pm : link
Shameful display of hitting…
Just turned it on  
section125 : 8/10/2022 6:05 pm : link
and Higgie had just hit a 2 runner...ok, that is better.
Goddamn these eeyore motherfuckers make Yankee threads unbearable  
Greg from LI : 8/10/2022 6:08 pm : link
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Judge bashes  
section125 : 8/10/2022 6:09 pm : link
weak cheese....3-1
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BleedBlue : 8/10/2022 6:19 pm : link
Offense hasn't done much but two great outings from cole and cortes. If montas can get his shit right, thats a tough 3 come playoff time
What a freakin joke.  
section125 : 8/10/2022 6:21 pm : link
Cortes strikes out Haniger on a FB in the zone and the ump with a 24 in wide plate calls it a ball. Of course Haniger then gets an rbi single. 3-2

Ruocco does not hold back calling out umpires.
Is there anyone worth a damn in that bullpen?  
The_Boss : 8/10/2022 6:26 pm : link
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Oy vey  
Jints in Carolina : 8/10/2022 6:27 pm : link
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How many fucking  
section125 : 8/10/2022 6:27 pm : link
times is Higgy going to call an offspeed pitch that lands in the stands....losing 4-3

This offspeed shit is absolutely killing them.
RE: Is there anyone worth a damn in that bullpen?  
BleedBlue : 8/10/2022 6:27 pm : link
In comment 15776988 The_Boss said:
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Pen pitched great last night.
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BleedBlue : 8/10/2022 6:27 pm : link
In comment 15776990 section125 said:
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times is Higgy going to call an offspeed pitch that lands in the stands....losing 4-3

This offspeed shit is absolutely killing them.


Higgy sucks. Trevino must play every game come playoffs
LOL.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/10/2022 6:28 pm : link
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section125 : 8/10/2022 6:29 pm : link
In comment 15776992 BleedBlue said:
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times is Higgy going to call an offspeed pitch that lands in the stands....losing 4-3

This offspeed shit is absolutely killing them.



Higgy sucks. Trevino must play every game come playoffs


Trevino does it too. You cannot feed fastballs that the batter cannot catch up to, and then go offspeed to speed up the bat.
Great throw to 2nd  
The_Boss : 8/10/2022 6:33 pm : link
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Pen  
NJLCO : 8/10/2022 6:33 pm : link
No Ron M and C. Schmidt WTF
Ugh Abreu  
Strahan91 : 8/10/2022 6:34 pm : link
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RE: Sorry fangraphs disagrees on Horace defense  
Ron from Ninerland : 8/10/2022 6:35 pm : link
In comment 15776951 capone said:
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fangraphs shmangraphs. This is the problem with these derived statistics, especially when applied to players from decades ago.
I watched him play for years. The problem with Horace Clarke wasn't that he made errors or threw balls away. The problem with Horace is that he was slow to react on ground balls that he didn't get to and was slow to get the ball out of his glove and throw it. A lot of ground balls went for base hits that a better second baseman would have fielded. Although I can't prove it, it seemed to me he saved his worst fielding for when the game was on the line. We speak of players like Derek Jeter as someone who would rise to the occasion in the biggest situations. Horace Clarke was just the opposite. The Yankees suffered with many mediocre players during that dark period from 1965 to 1974, but there is a reason that era is referred to as "The Horace Clarke Era".
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NJLCO : 8/10/2022 6:35 pm : link
In comment 15776994 section125 said:
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times is Higgy going to call an offspeed pitch that lands in the stands....losing 4-3

This offspeed shit is absolutely killing them.



Higgy sucks. Trevino must play every game come playoffs



Trevino does it too. You cannot feed fastballs that the batter cannot catch up to, and then go offspeed to speed up the bat.


Yea maybe the pitchers should think about not throwing the off speed over the plate. You think
RE: RE: Sorry fangraphs disagrees on Horace defense  
capone : 8/10/2022 6:40 pm : link
In comment 15777003 Ron from Ninerland said:
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fangraphs shmangraphs. This is the problem with these derived statistics, especially when applied to players from decades ago.
I watched him play for years. The problem with Horace Clarke wasn't that he made errors or threw balls away. The problem with Horace is that he was slow to react on ground balls that he didn't get to and was slow to get the ball out of his glove and throw it. A lot of ground balls went for base hits that a better second baseman would have fielded. Although I can't prove it, it seemed to me he saved his worst fielding for when the game was on the line. We speak of players like Derek Jeter as someone who would rise to the occasion in the biggest situations. Horace Clarke was just the opposite. The Yankees suffered with many mediocre players during that dark period from 1965 to 1974, but there is a reason that era is referred to as "The Horace Clarke Era".


Before my time but you are an eye witness not fangraphs !
This roster construction is ridiculous.  
Mike from SI : 8/10/2022 6:44 pm : link
Cash thought he could pinch pennies, save service time, etc. because the team was doing so well. But guess what, we need some of those guys in the bigs now and to DFA people on the roster. Enough.
Great road trip so far  
The_Boss : 8/10/2022 6:55 pm : link
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so sick of IKF  
CromartiesKid21 : 8/10/2022 6:55 pm : link
while Peraza sits in the minors
How many more excuses  
SoZKillA : 8/10/2022 6:56 pm : link
Is Greg from LI and the rest of the pom pom bunch gonna make?
Yikes.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/10/2022 6:56 pm : link
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section125 : 8/10/2022 6:57 pm : link
In comment 15777004 NJLCO said:
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Yea maybe the pitchers should think about not throwing the off speed over the plate. You think


That, too. But how about not trying to be cute and throw the FB that the guy cannot hit. Too many times this year.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/10/2022 6:58 pm : link
Is Severino coming back this season?
Looked like Nestor had his best stuff of the year today  
The_Boss : 8/10/2022 7:01 pm : link
Throwing gas too (94 mph). Left with a 3-1 lead in the 7th and Abreu flushes it down the toilet.
15 and 20 since July1  
Rick in Dallas : 8/10/2022 7:01 pm : link
The Yankees playoff wart timely hitting with RISP rearing its ugly head.
It will get worse in the playoffs when they face good pitching everyday.
How does Cashman get away with the same shit over the past 5 years???
Roster construction a real issue for a long time now
Injuries no excuse
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section125 : 8/10/2022 7:03 pm : link
In comment 15777031 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Is Severino coming back this season?


Yes. He is on 60 day IL, but he was pissed because I think he had started to throw.
So September he should be back. They are innings saving with him.
RE: Looked like Nestor had his best stuff of the year today  
The_Boss : 8/10/2022 7:03 pm : link
In comment 15777033 The_Boss said:
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Throwing gas too (94 mph). Left with a 3-1 lead in the 7th and Abreu flushes it down the toilet.


3-2..
section125.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/10/2022 7:04 pm : link
Thanks.
RE: 15 and 20 since July1  
The_Boss : 8/10/2022 7:07 pm : link
In comment 15777034 Rick in Dallas said:
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The Yankees playoff wart timely hitting with RISP rearing its ugly head.
It will get worse in the playoffs when they face good pitching everyday.
How does Cashman get away with the same shit over the past 5 years???
Roster construction a real issue for a long time now
Injuries no excuse


If they don’t make the WS (and right now I don’t think they will), I think it’s finally time to move on from Cashman.
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arcarsenal : 8/10/2022 7:08 pm : link
This is pretty bad stuff. The pitchers simply do not hold leads. Almost every single time we've gotten one lately, the starter or relievers have promptly returned the favor in the same inning (or top half of the following one)

Can't just keep playing shit baseball like this and expect a switch to flip. Has to change.

Really wasted an absolute gem from Nestor. Damn shame.
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The_Boss : 8/10/2022 7:10 pm : link
In comment 15777044 arcarsenal said:
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This is pretty bad stuff. The pitchers simply do not hold leads. Almost every single time we've gotten one lately, the starter or relievers have promptly returned the favor in the same inning (or top half of the following one)

Can't just keep playing shit baseball like this and expect a switch to flip. Has to change.

Really wasted an absolute gem from Nestor. Damn shame.


I don’t recall a start this year where he was throwing this well. Damn shame indeed.
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