I dont believe in Jones; think he struggles tonight & Tyrod excels playing his usual mistake free football.
I can see the media stirring the pot on a QB controversy with the headlines tomorrow morning.
Sy confirming my beliefs in his practice reports is all I needed to confidently feel the end is near for the Danny Jones era.
Meantime, how did Tyrod do on his previous six teams?
The jury is out on Taylor.
Tyrod Taylor was hired as a pure backup
Considering Jones' injury history, that's not exactly going out on a limb. That's precisely why the Giants got a more capable backup than Glennon
Meantime, how did Tyrod do on his previous six teams?
This made me chuckle 🤭
When I saw him Tue he looked like he has a pop gun for an arm. Reminded me of Chad Pennington.
CromartiesKid21 get paid by the click?
We need a QB, this is a QB heavy draft, build for next year. A higher slot doesn't guarantee a qb, but you can't say it won't help.
BUT, most NFL teams don't think like that, and I can see Tyrod starting by week 8 if we're 1-7 or something.
You won’t see Jones or Barkley on this team next year.
Not a particularly original take I know but the GM & Coach will want their guys in here when it makes the most financial sense. Hands were kind of tired this year.
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This is not to say DJ is great or will be or whatever. This is simply saying Tyrod is a backup. And a good one at that. But that as everyone knows, is his ceiling.
You play DJ, if he fails, you're set w a top draft pick for a QB.
When I saw him Tue he looked like he has a pop gun for an arm. Reminded me of Chad Pennington.
Who...went to two divisional playoffs in 3 years in the same city, all of which obviously happened well after november.
One of the knocks on Jones is he can’t stay healthy but compared to Taylor he is durable
https://www.draftsharks.com/fantasy/injury-history/tyrod-taylor/4785
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Arguing over which one is better is pointless. What is going to happen this season is largely already determined.
Put another way, Taylor is more competent than Jones and that would improve those odds…
Put another way, Taylor is more competent than Jones and that would improve those odds…
Honestly, I'd rather go 3-13 and get a top 2 QB in the draft, than squeak to a division title, still be pretty poor, and get bounced easily out of the playoffs.
It's just wanting to go with the anti-Jones option...
Also playing WITH backups.
Isn't one of the primary excuses for DJ that his own surrounding cast has been subpar? So we don't want to pay attention to a QB being productive while playing with the backups?
The fact that Taylor is even in the conversation as a starter on performance is an indictment of Jones.
Expect a season of fans being in one camp or the other and arguing about who should start. It will all hopefully be irrelevant after the 2023 draft.
Six teams in, no one believes in Tyrod Taylor as an NFL starting QB.
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playing Taylor is the NFCE is a joke. And with some competent QB play, we could be right in the mix.
Put another way, Taylor is more competent than Jones and that would improve those odds…
Honestly, I'd rather go 3-13 and get a top 2 QB in the draft, than squeak to a division title, still be pretty poor, and get bounced easily out of the playoffs.
I do not disagree, but if they "sneak" into the playoffs it is likely Jones had a good year. This is not a playoff team even if Aaron Rodgers was the QB.
Put another way, Taylor is more competent than Jones and that would improve those odds…
You really don’t know that. He hasn’t been competent since 2017. His play since has been bad, in between all the injuries.
Six teams in, no one believes in Tyrod Taylor as an NFL starting QB.
Wow....Finally someone on this board puts words on here that are truthful..Old TT hasn't won didly squat nowhere in the NFL..What makes you think he is the savior for this NFL team?? Jones is alot better then Taylor, if healthy..
Meantime, how did Tyrod do on his previous six teams?
Wasn't it Tyrod Taylor who was benched by the Bills in favour of newbie Nathan Peterman, who then proceeded to throw five interceptions in the first half of a regular season game?
I like Taylor. Not the strongest arm, but a quick thinker.
Six teams in, no one believes in Tyrod Taylor as an NFL starting QB.
Lmao, guess what? No one believe in Daniel Jones and an NFL starting QB either. (Remember when they picked up his option? Oh wait…)
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a fresh take on the GIants. Nobody could ever think that would happen.
Meantime, how did Tyrod do on his previous six teams?
Wasn't it Tyrod Taylor who was benched by the Bills in favour of newbie Nathan Peterman, who then proceeded to throw five interceptions in the first half of a regular season game?
I like Taylor. Not the strongest arm, but a quick thinker.
You should be in the scarecrow making business because that's one hell of a strawman
You can say literally the exact same words about the DJFC.
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playing Taylor is the NFCE is a joke. And with some competent QB play, we could be right in the mix.
Put another way, Taylor is more competent than Jones and that would improve those odds…
You really don’t know that. He hasn’t been competent since 2017. His play since has been bad, in between all the injuries.
Okay, my crystal ball is in the shop. So, I don't know that for a fact - true.
But the overall numbers for Taylor show he's been a better QB than Jones and Sy has reported numerous times that Taylor looks like the better QB so far at camp. If I had to put words in Sy's mouth, his tone suggests it's not really close thus far...
Based on what? Jones just hasn't begun his journeyman phase yet because his scholarship hasn't expired. Give it time.
Hang on to some hope that Jones can be the guy. It could be a long time before we see top QB play if hes not. Tyrod Taylor is not going to lead a mediocre team to the playoffs and is not a long term solution. Taylor maybe looks better at times because he has played in the system before for a few years. He is playing against the 2s right now as well. He has gotten 1 1st team rep from all accounts.
But QBs do not fail overnight. If Jones looks bad this game and Taylor looks good that begins the momentum to a QB change.
Anyone who thinks Giants and Daboll are committed to Jones starting all year are deluding themselves. Jones is the starter for as long as he can get the job done. And not one quarter longer.
The jury is out on Taylor.
If the jury is still out on anyone, it's Jones. Although, I believe we've seen what Jones is. A bottom 1/3 of the league QB. One big reason I have pushed for Taylor to get a shot to compete has less to do with him or even Jones' level of play. The reality is Jones is unlikely to be back. A 2nd contract will likely be too much for the production he's delivered and a tag is about 30% more than that. So, no thank you, unless he unrealistically is a top 5 QB this year.
On the other hand, Taylor is already under contract for next year and at a very low cost. He has value either as a backup or as a potential bridge starter to a drafted QB, if we go that route. So, if he is better this summer, why not start building that bridge now? If they are even or Jones is better, than sure he should start. I just have seen nothing in 3 years and heard nothing this summer that leads me to believe we should or will be clamoring for him to return next season.
And for the record, this is coming from someone who wasn't that crazed when they drafted him. I thought where they selected him was too high and if he was the guy they wanted they could have traded back. But, I found a lot of what I read about him intriguing. He just hasn't lived up to what some thought his potential was.