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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2022 6:37 pm
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ColHowPepper : 8/11/2022 9:38 pm : link
As a couple posters mentioned, Bredeson looked pretty comfortable at C, calling out assignments and holding his own, albeit vs 2nds and 3rds. Never understood why he didn't get work at C last year, Price was so god awful.

Not much mentioned here tonight is that Ezeudu got a ton of work at LG: to me he showed good balance and good feet and good movement to get to 2nd level.

He was hit with a hold, warranted imo: he had the DT tied up well, but then when the pocket was collapsing from the right side and Taylor moved left, the DT tried to separate to go at QB and Ezeudu kept his hold and arms went outside the DT's shoulders.

Flott looks fluid, but he showed inexperience on the fly down the far sideline when he did not turn his head to locate the ball. Hopefully that comes.
Bredeson  
bluefin : 8/11/2022 9:39 pm : link
game ball
How many of those  
Maryland Blows : 8/11/2022 9:39 pm : link
Did we get stuffed on those the last 4 years. We actually picked up a 4th and short.
Davis Webb  
David B. : 8/11/2022 9:40 pm : link
Still sucks, and can't complete a pass.
Crappy  
AcidTest : 8/11/2022 9:40 pm : link
call on the roughing the passer.

So Lemieux, Douglas, and Flott are hurt. At least Bredeson has looked decent.
RE: Pats got a flag...  
PetesHereNow : 8/11/2022 9:40 pm : link
In comment 15778439 bw in dc said:
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for a textbook tackle.

NFL is the worst.


The tackler drove the QB into the turf. That’s a penalty as the rule is written.
Again Webb  
section125 : 8/11/2022 9:40 pm : link
only looks for Doss....
Webb  
Giants86 : 8/11/2022 9:41 pm : link
Still stinks
Davis Webb has  
M.S. : 8/11/2022 9:41 pm : link

Just sucked tonight.

An INT just waiting to happen.

Awful
RE: Webb has eyes  
Mike from Ohio : 8/11/2022 9:41 pm : link
In comment 15778437 section125 said:
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only for Doss


Does Webb know there are other eligible receivers on the field? He could have 3 or 4 picks already.
RE: RE: Pats got a flag...  
section125 : 8/11/2022 9:41 pm : link
In comment 15778446 PetesHereNow said:
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In comment 15778439 bw in dc said:


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for a textbook tackle.

NFL is the worst.



The tackler drove the QB into the turf. That’s a penalty as the rule is written.


I though that they changed the rule on roughing the passer...?
Webb hasn’t changed much  
Canton : 8/11/2022 9:42 pm : link
Except for the Dirk Diggler mustache
RE: How many of those  
Toth029 : 8/11/2022 9:42 pm : link
In comment 15778443 Maryland Blows said:
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Did we get stuffed on those the last 4 years. We actually picked up a 4th and short.


Prior regimes would pinch the lines and there's no where to run.

Daboll/Kafka spreads it out.

Webb struggling this drive.
Doss??  
prdave73 : 8/11/2022 9:42 pm : link
awful.. No instincts..
Why have they stopped  
section125 : 8/11/2022 9:42 pm : link
running the ball?
Can’t we put Webb on the PS?  
Simms11 : 8/11/2022 9:43 pm : link
Use the roster spot for another Olineman! They’re dropping like flies.
RE: Can’t we put Webb on the PS?  
section125 : 8/11/2022 9:44 pm : link
In comment 15778457 Simms11 said:
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Use the roster spot for another Olineman! They’re dropping like flies.


2 guys with minor injuries is not dropping like flies..toe and ankle.
RE: RE: Pats got a flag...  
Mike from Ohio : 8/11/2022 9:44 pm : link
In comment 15778446 PetesHereNow said:
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In comment 15778439 bw in dc said:


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for a textbook tackle.

NFL is the worst.



The tackler drove the QB into the turf. That’s a penalty as the rule is written.


Except he didn’t. That was a terrible call.
Bredeson  
kelly : 8/11/2022 9:44 pm : link
Far better than price.

Has good size and shows toughness. He is a keeper.

Funny because I thought he was terrible at guard last year.
RE: RE: Can’t we put Webb on the PS?  
Simms11 : 8/11/2022 9:45 pm : link
In comment 15778458 section125 said:
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In comment 15778457 Simms11 said:


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Use the roster spot for another Olineman! They’re dropping like flies.



2 guys with minor injuries is not dropping like flies..toe and ankle.


We don’t know how severe these injuries are yet either.
Only throw Zappe can  
section125 : 8/11/2022 9:45 pm : link
make is back shoulder
Webb  
AcidTest : 8/11/2022 9:45 pm : link
has the same problem as Jones. Constantly doesn't see the whole field. His value right now is the help he provides to the other QBs, but I'm fine cutting him for a waiver wire pickup at another position. I agree we can likely get him through to the PS.
Did Thibs play?  
armstead98 : 8/11/2022 9:45 pm : link
I forgot to key on him early. I assume he was out there
Zapped by these  
bluefin : 8/11/2022 9:46 pm : link
back shoulder underthrows
RE: RE: RE: Can’t we put Webb on the PS?  
section125 : 8/11/2022 9:46 pm : link
In comment 15778461 Simms11 said:
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In comment 15778458 section125 said:


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In comment 15778457 Simms11 said:


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Use the roster spot for another Olineman! They’re dropping like flies.



2 guys with minor injuries is not dropping like flies..toe and ankle.



We don’t know how severe these injuries are yet either.


Toe and ankle and Douglas is not making the team..
RE: Did Thibs play?  
section125 : 8/11/2022 9:47 pm : link
In comment 15778465 armstead98 said:
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I forgot to key on him early. I assume he was out there


Did nothing
RE: Zapped by these  
section125 : 8/11/2022 9:48 pm : link
In comment 15778466 bluefin said:
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back shoulder underthrows


Well done..
RE: Did Thibs play?  
Simms11 : 8/11/2022 9:48 pm : link
In comment 15778465 armstead98 said:
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I forgot to key on him early. I assume he was out there


He did.....he got the tackle to jump and forced a false start, but that’s the only significant contribution he had. He only played a few series.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Can’t we put Webb on the PS?  
Simms11 : 8/11/2022 9:50 pm : link
In comment 15778467 section125 said:
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In comment 15778461 Simms11 said:


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In comment 15778458 section125 said:


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In comment 15778457 Simms11 said:


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Use the roster spot for another Olineman! They’re dropping like flies.



2 guys with minor injuries is not dropping like flies..toe and ankle.



We don’t know how severe these injuries are yet either.



Toe and ankle and Douglas is not making the team..


Section, if it’s a toe it could be turf toe, which could keep him out for a while!
RE: RE: RE: Pats got a flag...  
shyster : 8/11/2022 9:50 pm : link
In comment 15778451 section125 said:
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I though that they changed the rule on roughing the passer...?


They changed a couple of things.

You can hit the QB in the head now and it's not an automatic penalty.

Also more leeway in hitting the QB in the legs.

But no change as far as driving the QB to the ground.

I would agree that play that drew a flag was a questionable application of that principle.
RE: RE: Zapped by these  
AcidTest : 8/11/2022 9:51 pm : link
In comment 15778469 section125 said:
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In comment 15778466 bluefin said:


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back shoulder underthrows



Well done..


+2.
Webb looks terrible and is slow getting  
Simms11 : 8/11/2022 9:52 pm : link
The ball out
What a punt.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/11/2022 9:52 pm : link
.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Can’t we put Webb on the PS?  
section125 : 8/11/2022 9:53 pm : link
In comment 15778472 Simms11 said:
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Section, if it’s a toe it could be turf toe, which could keep him out for a while!


Yep, probably is. Could be that if it was a regular game he stays in..
Guys will be nicked up in preseason... there will be plenty of OL released in about two weeks.

Davis Webb playing himself off the team  
M.S. : 8/11/2022 9:53 pm : link

I’d cut him and keep RB Corbin
We want  
Jay on the Island : 8/11/2022 9:54 pm : link
MBaeteka!
Happy with the running game tonight  
eric2425ny : 8/11/2022 9:54 pm : link
Longest run was 17 yards. Just a lot of solid gains, not a bunch of lost yards.

As a team they have 27 carries for 130 and a TD. 4.8 YPC. I haven’t seen them put up a team rushing stat line like that in preseason or regular season in a very long time.
Why did they  
section125 : 8/11/2022 9:54 pm : link
stop running the ball. We don't need to see Webb throw to Doss.

Heslep getting picked on.
Webb does not belong  
kelly : 8/11/2022 9:55 pm : link
In the nfl
RE: Happy with the running game tonight  
M.S. : 8/11/2022 9:55 pm : link
In comment 15778481 eric2425ny said:
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Longest run was 17 yards. Just a lot of solid gains, not a bunch of lost yards.

As a team they have 27 carries for 130 and a TD. 4.8 YPC. I haven’t seen them put up a team rushing stat line like that in preseason or regular season in a very long time.

Exactly! And add in good pass blocking!
Is it me,  
prdave73 : 8/11/2022 9:55 pm : link
or do the Giants give a lot of space to the WR's?
RE: Is it me,  
section125 : 8/11/2022 9:56 pm : link
In comment 15778485 prdave73 said:
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or do the Giants give a lot of space to the WR's?


Not as much as last year.
Holy shit  
section125 : 8/11/2022 9:58 pm : link
Pats announcers said it was an incomplete pass and the refs blow it again...
Webb…..  
thrunthrublue : 8/11/2022 9:59 pm : link
Needs to line up with glennon and Fromm somewhere else. And jones, looked horrible.
I understand Webb has good faith w the coaching staff  
fish3321 : 8/11/2022 9:59 pm : link
but I'd rather have an extra O lineman or special teams player than him
I’d keep an extra back or WR  
eric2425ny : 8/11/2022 10:00 pm : link
over Webb. If it comes down to keeping a player like Corbin or Webb it’s a no brainer.
RE: I understand Webb has good faith w the coaching staff  
BigBlueinDE : 8/11/2022 10:00 pm : link
In comment 15778490 fish3321 said:
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but I'd rather have an extra O lineman or special teams player than him


He may retire and Daboll will add him to the staff.
Patriot OL dropping like  
Maryland Blows : 8/11/2022 10:01 pm : link
Flies
The  
AcidTest : 8/11/2022 10:01 pm : link
Patriots have had a lot of injuries.
Don't really give a fuck about this one  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 8/11/2022 10:02 pm : link
Daboll being an adult baby with a beard is easier to watch than "gritty" Judge or however the hell you wanna describe McAdoo.
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