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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2022 6:37 pm
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come on guys. they both suck  
Producer : 8/11/2022 8:38 pm : link
the point is, if Jones can't outplay Taylor, clearly, and if Taylor is no better than the 26th best QB in the league, or worse, then...
Judge called that timeout  
bluefin : 8/11/2022 8:38 pm : link
he couldn’t stop himself
RE: It's early  
eric2425ny : 8/11/2022 8:38 pm : link
In comment 15778268 David B. said:
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But the Giants look awful.


The weak points of this team are CB (at least one of the starters), backup offensive line, and very likely QB.
RE: come on guys. they both suck  
Thunderstruck27 : 8/11/2022 8:39 pm : link
In comment 15778269 Producer said:
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the point is, if Jones can't outplay Taylor, clearly, and if Taylor is no better than the 26th best QB in the league, or worse, then...


Do they both suck? I'm seeing a lot of drops and tips...
Coach needs help with clock management  
ZogZerg : 8/11/2022 8:39 pm : link
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RE: Johnson  
bluefin : 8/11/2022 8:39 pm : link
In comment 15778261 section125 said:
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slowed down on that bomb...

he did - that was a great throw byTyrod
RE: Judge called that timeout  
Thunderstruck27 : 8/11/2022 8:39 pm : link
In comment 15778270 bluefin said:
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he couldn’t stop himself


winning.
I'd rather  
PakistanPete : 8/11/2022 8:40 pm : link
drink Pabst

than Stella Artois.
Brightwell,  
AcidTest : 8/11/2022 8:40 pm : link
Corbin, Johnson, and Beavers looked good.

Some good and bad from Jones and Taylor. Really a wash.
Curious what Laura Young was up to  
D HOS : 8/11/2022 8:41 pm : link
She seemed to keep busy and consulting with Coach Daboll.
Any news on Lemieux?  
Rick in Dallas : 8/11/2022 8:41 pm : link
First half was very sloppy
Beavers very active
That was a pleasant half of football  
M.S. : 8/11/2022 8:41 pm : link

Good pass blocking and lots of passing yardage and some good running plays as well.

And save for Aaron Robinson defense looked competitive and Beavers looks excellent!!!
RE: RE: come on guys. they both suck  
Toth029 : 8/11/2022 8:41 pm : link
In comment 15778273 Thunderstruck27 said:
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In comment 15778269 Producer said:


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the point is, if Jones can't outplay Taylor, clearly, and if Taylor is no better than the 26th best QB in the league, or worse, then...



Do they both suck? I'm seeing a lot of drops and tips...


Taylor is credited as a guy who's accurate and poised in the pocket.

But he had several passes that was wildly underthrown. Several INTs against a defense that isn't playing 3rd stringers.
RE: come on guys. they both suck  
section125 : 8/11/2022 8:42 pm : link
In comment 15778269 Producer said:
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the point is, if Jones can't outplay Taylor, clearly, and if Taylor is no better than the 26th best QB in the league, or worse, then...


Taylor moves very well. I would say more decisive. He is not as accurate all the time as people say. Several low or behind the WRs. Even the last play of the half - Corbin was wide open 10 yards in front of him and it is delivered knee high. But he is clearly a severe upgrade over the last three or four backups.
It’s the first Pre-season game.......  
Simms11 : 8/11/2022 8:42 pm : link
with a new scheme, several new players and rookies and staff. Giants are also playing a lot of vanilla football too. I anticipated sloppy ball. There have been some good individual performances and that’s what I focus on in these pre-season games.

C Johnson
Brightwell
Barkley
Beavers
Ezeudu
All looked pretty good to me
RE: It's early  
M.S. : 8/11/2022 8:42 pm : link
In comment 15778268 David B. said:
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But the Giants look awful.

Are you watching the game?
RE: I'd rather  
section125 : 8/11/2022 8:43 pm : link
In comment 15778277 PakistanPete said:
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drink Pabst

than Stella Artois.


PBR! Hell, except for Iron City and Keystone and ice cold beer is excellent.

No I'd rather Stella
David B- I disagree  
Dave on the UWS : 8/11/2022 8:43 pm : link
new offensive and defensive systems, new coaching staff. They haven't looked disorganized and the execution has been fair. This team has a Looog way to go to become a good one. They don't look horrible for first game. Can't expect much more.
What it really comes down to with QB  
eric2425ny : 8/11/2022 8:44 pm : link
Jones: has the prototypical size, decent arm strength, has some speed

Tyrod: not prototypical size, similar arm strength as Jones, better football IQ

Conclusion: neither is a franchise QB, but the second option likely wins you more games due to his higher football IQ and adequate physical ability.
Was hoping Taylor would look better than that  
Andy in Halifax : 8/11/2022 8:44 pm : link
Oh well, just first preseason game.
RE: Johnson  
k2tampa : 8/11/2022 8:44 pm : link
In comment 15778261 section125 said:
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slowed down on that bomb...


Replay showed illegal contact and the DB was pulling his jersey.
Giants look better than they have in recent preseason s  
kelly : 8/11/2022 8:45 pm : link
Taylor is not better than Jones.

Brightwell looks decent.

Brederson at center looks better than I thought.

Golladay is useless. There is no place for him on this team. He is not good at anything.
The book on Taylor is that  
Producer : 8/11/2022 8:46 pm : link
he is conservative. Risk averse. Can move well and extend plays a bit. Doesn't turn the ball over. But really can't sling it with the big boys. He's not the guy you need for a high-powered offense.
RE: RE: Lmao  
90.Cal : 8/11/2022 8:46 pm : link
In comment 15778121 Alamo said:
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In comment 15778090 90.Cal said:


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Just face it!!!

Tyrod Taylor has been in for half a series and already looks better than Daniel Jones!


Two's playing against two's...Not One's..
Oh well,blame everything on Jones..#15 fumbled the ball after a catch & run..Jones should get the blame..RIGHT ??????


Lmaooooo!!! The DJ defenders worst argument yet!!! DJ didn't even throw that pass to #15... that was Tyrod! Lol
Malik Willis...  
bw in dc : 8/11/2022 8:47 pm : link
alert. Making some plays with his arm and legs...

RE: Malik Willis...  
Producer : 8/11/2022 8:48 pm : link
In comment 15778298 bw in dc said:
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alert. Making some plays with his arm and legs...


yea.. it's not going to look good if he puts it together and we could have had him in the 2nd or 3rd.
Taylor has the zip on his passes & decisiveness  
90.Cal : 8/11/2022 8:48 pm : link
That I wish Daniel had...

Daniel can't zip it into a tight window like Tyrod can... so he's scared to throw it and he holds onto the football for way too long.
RE: RE: Johnson  
section125 : 8/11/2022 8:48 pm : link
In comment 15778291 k2tampa said:
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In comment 15778261 section125 said:


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slowed down on that bomb...



Replay showed illegal contact and the DB was pulling his jersey.


Did not see that
RE: What it really comes down to with QB  
shyster : 8/11/2022 8:48 pm : link
In comment 15778289 eric2425ny said:
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Jones: has the prototypical size, decent arm strength, has some speed

Tyrod: not prototypical size, similar arm strength as Jones, better football IQ

Conclusion: neither is a franchise QB, but the second option likely wins you more games due to his higher football IQ and adequate physical ability.


Taylor does not have same arm strength. Didn't even try to reach the end zone when that was the only play to make.

He could have had four INTs. Another too high/hard pass that was deflected.

Then a deflection off the DL's helmet. Ball goes twenty feet in the air but somehow no one else on defense can track it down.

If Taylor does somehow get the starting job, his honeymoon will be very short.
RE: RE: RE: Lmao  
GNewGiants : 8/11/2022 8:48 pm : link
In comment 15778295 90.Cal said:
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In comment 15778121 Alamo said:


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In comment 15778090 90.Cal said:


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Just face it!!!

Tyrod Taylor has been in for half a series and already looks better than Daniel Jones!


Two's playing against two's...Not One's..
Oh well,blame everything on Jones..#15 fumbled the ball after a catch & run..Jones should get the blame..RIGHT ??????




Lmaooooo!!! The DJ defenders worst argument yet!!! DJ didn't even throw that pass to #15... that was Tyrod! Lol


His post went right over your head.
RE: That was a pleasant half of football  
Lines of Scrimmage : 8/11/2022 8:48 pm : link
In comment 15778282 M.S. said:
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Good pass blocking and lots of passing yardage and some good running plays as well.

And save for Aaron Robinson defense looked competitive and Beavers looks excellent!!!


About what I saw. 267 Giant yards to Pats 88. Neal needs to keep working.
RE: Giants look better than they have in recent preseason s  
Del Shofner : 8/11/2022 8:49 pm : link
In comment 15778293 kelly said:
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Taylor is not better than Jones.

Brightwell looks decent.

Brederson at center looks better than I thought.

Golladay is useless. There is no place for him on this team. He is not good at anything.


No disagreement with those points.
RE: RE: RE: Taylor threw two should have been INTs on that drive  
It's a New Day : 8/11/2022 8:49 pm : link
In comment 15778249 Mike in NY said:
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The late pass up the sideline that bounced off both hands of the DB.

And the pass fired high that just happened to deflect to a Giant rather than a Patriot.



Collins should have had that. A quality NFL WR pulls that in.



You sound more desperate than those making excuses for Daniel Jones. Taylor is what he is. He is a Colt McCoy/Case Keenum type who won’t lose you games you should have won. He also won’t win you games either.


DJ was 6 for 10 69 yards. It should have been 7-10 and a TD. Oh, and it's preseason game one....
Lol  
GNewGiants : 8/11/2022 8:49 pm : link
It didn’t take long for the Wilis fan club to post in a giants thread. Just nauseating at this point.
RE: Taylor has the zip on his passes & decisiveness  
Thunderstruck27 : 8/11/2022 8:50 pm : link
In comment 15778300 90.Cal said:
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That I wish Daniel had...

Daniel can't zip it into a tight window like Tyrod can... so he's scared to throw it and he holds onto the football for way too long.


DJ zipped it right in there to our best WR...and it got dropped...on the 2 yard line..
RE: I’m very impressed with Taylor  
It's a New Day : 8/11/2022 8:50 pm : link
In comment 15778262 Sean said:
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What? Did we watch the same game????
Still don't understand why there's pushback against a Giants QB  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/11/2022 8:50 pm : link
Doing his job that isn't Daniel Jones.
Didn't get to watch  
Breeze_94 : 8/11/2022 8:50 pm : link
how were Neal and Kayvon? I saw Wan'dale was not targeted once in 9 routes run too?
I actually think  
George : 8/11/2022 8:51 pm : link
This is not a bad way to begin. I don’t like Taylor’s ball in placement and Robinson needs to play under control every snap, but the OL has done a good job and all three RBs have run well. DJ looked sharp and I like what Foster and James can do as WRs.

This is not a bad first pre-season game at all.
Looking forward to  
bluefin : 8/11/2022 8:51 pm : link
Davis Webb
well...  
It's a New Day : 8/11/2022 8:51 pm : link
This board is a joke... that is all.
RE: Still don't understand why there's pushback against a Giants QB  
GNewGiants : 8/11/2022 8:52 pm : link
In comment 15778311 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Doing his job that isn't Daniel Jones.


It’s not the push back. It’s the same posters posting the same shit every thread multiples times in the thread multiple times a day.

They need new material.
 
ryanmkeane : 8/11/2022 8:52 pm : link
Lemieux in a walking boot
Said all draft season  
Snablats : 8/11/2022 8:52 pm : link
that Robinson is not an outside corner. He is a slot corner
RE: …  
AcidTest : 8/11/2022 8:52 pm : link
In comment 15778318 ryanmkeane said:
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Lemieux in a walking boot


Yikes.
RE: well...  
bluefin : 8/11/2022 8:53 pm : link
In comment 15778316 It's a New Day said:
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This board is a joke... that is all.

well…it is a game thread, so…
RE: …  
Drewcon40 : 8/11/2022 8:53 pm : link
In comment 15778318 ryanmkeane said:
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Lemieux in a walking boot

Ugh I was hoping for better news.
Don’t know why  
tyrik13 : 8/11/2022 8:53 pm : link
Y’all keep thinking Taylor is going to start over DJ, it’s not going to happen. He was brought in as the backup and that’s what he shall remain throughout the season unless DJ gets hurt. Accept it and move on, stop beating a dead horse with wishful thinking, it’s not going to happen, end of story
RE: …  
Simms11 : 8/11/2022 8:55 pm : link
In comment 15778318 ryanmkeane said:
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Lemieux in a walking boot


Not good. Oline depth really going to be tested
RE: …  
beatrixkiddo : 8/11/2022 8:56 pm : link
In comment 15778318 ryanmkeane said:
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Lemieux in a walking boot


Guy is made of glass. Too bad. Ezeudu going to take his spot and run with it.
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