Daniel Jones..solid outing. Nothing spectacular or awe-inspiring, but he did a fine job.
Tyrod Taylor was flashier than DJ and took more risks. He had a couple of errant throws, but overall he was very good tonight.
Really liked what I saw from the RB depth. Corbin, Williams and Brightwell all ran with juice. Platzgummer had a nice run towards the end of the game.
Kenny Golladay...at least pretend to give a shit?
Collin Johnson - nice game, but two major gaffes: 1) the fumble; and 2) he missed the throw from Taylor (which was a bit high, but 6'6 Johnson should catch it) that led to the Richie James Jr. catch.
Darius Slayton - I think once Shepard is a go, Slayton will be shopped and traded. I'd be shocked if he was in a Giants uniform against the Titans.
I thought the O-Line played well throughout. Whether it was the first, second or third team, they blocked well. Major shoutout to Ben Bredeson who played C for most of the game and played excellent.
Chris Hinton - learn from your dad on how to play with attitude and intensity
Quincy Roche - great game. Great job rushing the passer and playing against the run.
Elerson Smith - the stats may not show it, but he played a very good game as well.
Darrian Beavers might've been the best player on our team tonight. He was around the ball every time he was on the field.
Daniel Jones..solid outing. Nothing spectacular or awe-inspiring, but he did a fine job.
Tyrod Taylor was flashier than DJ and took more risks. He had a couple of errant throws, but overall he was very good tonight.
Really liked what I saw from the RB depth. Corbin, Williams and Brightwell all ran with juice. Platzgummer had a nice run towards the end of the game.
Kenny Golladay...at least pretend to give a shit?
Collin Johnson - nice game, but two major gaffes: 1) the fumble; and 2) he missed the throw from Taylor (which was a bit high, but 6'6 Johnson should catch it) that led to the Richie James Jr. catch.
Darius Slayton - I think once Shepard is a go, Slayton will be shopped and traded. I'd be shocked if he was in a Giants uniform against the Titans.
I thought the O-Line played well throughout. Whether it was the first, second or third team, they blocked well. Major shoutout to Ben Bredeson who played C for most of the game and played excellent.
Chris Hinton - learn from your dad on how to play with attitude and intensity
Quincy Roche - great game. Great job rushing the passer and playing against the run.
Elerson Smith - the stats may not show it, but he played a very good game as well.
Darrian Beavers might've been the best player on our team tonight. He was around the ball every time he was on the field.
Art Stapleton
✔
@art_stapleton
Just talked to #Giants LG Shane Lemieux in the locker room. He's in the walking boot and will go for tests tomorrow morning to determine the severity of the toe injury. Hopeful it's not turf toe, but won't know extent or diagnosis until after his doctor's visit. So we'll see.
was just better than the last few years. No jailbreak sacks. Running backs not getting blown up in the backfield, actual holes to hit. D really good against the run. Not too many penalties, minimum confusion. Coaching matters. Organization matters. And even in preseason, and especially for this team, taking the ball down the field for a winning FG is a nice start.
My thoughts, Players that played well tonight include:
Flott
Brightwell
Slayton
Corbin
Antonio
Beavers
That Wr who made the richoet catch
Players that disappointed.
Daniel Bellinger (Did not block well)
Aaron Robinson
Kenny Golladay (he pissed me off something fierce). Didn't run through his route. very lazy route running.
Taylor at QB2 is night and day compared to past backups.
Brightwell, Williams & Corbin all ran hard. RB3 going to be an interesting battle although Williams looked the best IMO.
Richie James can play. Always liked him with Niners but injuries derailed him. I bet he'll end up seeing quite a few snaps and having a nice impact this season (esp with how fragile KT is)
Neal will be okay but has to work on his balance & pass sets. Already looks like a plus run blocker.
Relying on 4th rounder Bellinger & the others in the TE room is uninspiring. Hoping a nice option shakes free from a loaded TE room during cutdowns (Baltimore?)
Aaron Robinson is going to get picked on. He got picked on versus Philly last year and was bailed out by Reagor's drops. Similar to TE room- they need to be working the waiver wire hard. Don't feel great about the CB room beyond Adoree.
Young LB's always look great in preseason games but Beavers & McFadden were all over the place. Beavers especially- physical and looked lighter on his feet than his college tape showed.
Golladay- when do the Giants have an out in his contract?
So, I didn't see Jones. I really wanted to see Robinson (WR), but it sounds like nothing missed there.
I thought Taylor looked good overall. But, he got away with a few high passes in the middle of the field. But, he looked good in the pocket, was confident, knew when to break the pocket, and fairly accurate. At the very worst, he is the best backup we have had in a LONG time.
Brightwell and the other backup RBs looked good.
Beavers was my favorite guy to see tonight. I think he may be one of the best steals of the draft when all is said and done.
I wouldn't mind having another punter in for a look.
My biggest concern was Evan Neal. I know he's just a rookie and needs
patience, but I'm not expecting very good play from him at right tackle this season.
Neal is having work done with his technique. He will be messed up while trying to make the changes. This was mentioned by a couple of other OL(technique change).
RE: Some of Aaron Robinson's problem may have been the safety too.
Nah, he was just beat off the line and not quick enough to catch up. Not sure the safeties had anything to do with it.
Agree, section.
And what is this shite that Robinson has to be given plenty of rope because he's transitioning from slot to a boundary CB. Simply not true to the purveyors of miss-information. He was drafted as a CB. period.
And, as noted on game thread, his notable plays in practice, including a pick or two, have come when he's been matched on....wait for it.....KG.
Golladay is a statue 'moving' through his patterns. Dreadful and getting worse.
Elerson Smith - the stats may not show it, but he played a very good game as well.
Darrian Beavers might've been the best player on our team tonight. He was around the ball every time he was on the field.
'Nak, I tried to pick Smith's play out, but didn't have much success spotting him. Not disagreeing, just couldn't find him.
Beavers, who by all rights based on what we saw last night--qualified by fact that d was going vs Pats' backups--should start week 1. He was outstanding. Reminds me a little bit of the ILB from a couple years ago in that he too had a good nose for the football, Connelly was his name?, who was injured early in season (knee) and never made a successful return.
But Beavers is bigger, faster, more powerful tackler. Give JS and crew credit here.
Specials didn't look so special, although Gano looked good!
Tyrod Taylor is better than other back-up QBs we've had in a long time, but he could have easily had 3 picks last night.
Webb is actually WORSE than I remember him being when he was on the Giants. Wow, like really bad.
Robinson doesn't play smart football. He needs a lot of coaching.
The Giants Corners could have easily been called for multiple PI penalties. I was shocked there were no flags on some of the plays. The refs overall were terrible.
All of the RBs looked good. Brightwell was running guys over!
I think I saw more "Open" Giant WRs last night than I saw all of last season combined. That is what good coaching can do!
Putting aside injuries, I don’t take any stock in any element of preseason. For as long as I’ve watched pro football the pre season has been entirely meaningless. It’s probably just as effective reading tealeaves as it is watching the pre season games.
The offense and the defense isn’t planned or schemed in any way other than to obscure any actual advantage. Players don’t want to get hurt anymore than coaches and fans want them to get hurt so the guys who know they’re on the roster either don’t play or they play to avoid injury. I guess that leave bubble players to try and make the team and that’s always interesting to see. Occasionally I suppose a superstar emerges à la Vict’ah Cruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuzzzzzzzz. But, them guys are far and very few in between.
So, pretty much can’t take anything away from the game except for the injury report.
Putting aside injuries, I don’t take any stock in any element of preseason. For as long as I’ve watched pro football the pre season has been entirely meaningless. It’s probably just as effective reading tealeaves as it is watching the pre season games.
The offense and the defense isn’t planned or schemed in any way other than to obscure any actual advantage. Players don’t want to get hurt anymore than coaches and fans want them to get hurt so the guys who know they’re on the roster either don’t play or they play to avoid injury. I guess that leave bubble players to try and make the team and that’s always interesting to see. Occasionally I suppose a superstar emerges à la Vict’ah Cruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuzzzzzzzz. But, them guys are far and very few in between.
So, pretty much can’t take anything away from the game except for the injury report.
I will say you do in the sense that the physicality of teams are apparent. Last year when we played the Pats, that first team defense looked fierce and they were fierce.
Beavers and rightfully so, Tae Crowder shouldn't feel 2 comfortable in his spot next to Blake...
The one guy I didn't see mentioned is Devery Henderson who took over for AT early in the game and played a ton of snaps. I was expecting him to get beat like a drum but he held his own all game.
we looked Competent... which may not sound like much, but compared to past years (especially pre-season where we often couldn't move the ball 10 years all of the 2nd half in previous years) this was a major upgrade.
Let's hope it continues and we keep getting better.
...The one guy I didn't see mentioned is Devery Henderson who took over for AT early in the game and played a ton of snaps. I was expecting him to get beat like a drum but he held his own all game.
Had similar impression, I had to look up #62 cuz I had no clue who wore that number. Also, little said about Glowinski, which I'll take as a good thing...as in when you don't hear an OL's name mentioned, he's not doing anything bad.
BBI however was in mid season form. In the game discussion T Taylor walks onto the field and 3 posters automatically say he looks better than Jones in the pocket.
Wan'Dale and Thibodeaux didn't play a whole lot. Neal same although he got spun around on the playaction call and allowed a sack.
Flott got injured and didn't jump out. Not necessarily bad but hopefully he's ok.
Ezeudu looked decent but better in the run.
Bellinger didn't impress but it's his first game and pressed against better players. Sadly no other TE stuck out. Feel like Schoen will look at cuts soon perhaps for both 2nd and 3rd guys.
McFadden looked okay. Beavers stood out and was very active.
I know it's only preseason but this game had a different
Feel to it than in the past. Was it because NE didn't play many starters? I don't know. But it always felt like Giants were in this game and not overmatched. I thought all three QBs were fine for what was expected and the RBs were terrific. Hard nose running no dancing. Giants have work to do but a good first preseason game. Think coaches did a good job especially with no game planning. Loved the tempo of the offense. Got right to the line of scrimmage giving QBs time to see what defense was doing. Very aggressive style.
From my viewpoint I thought things looked halfway decent.
Team played with energy, ran the ball with a purpose and stopped it too. Gained a good amount of yards and moved the ball on almost every drive.
Would have liked to see them convert aTD on that first drive but it is obvious Golladay is going to continue to be a problem for this team. Toney has got to get onto the field and maybe this Wandale Robinson can help some, but passing seems like it will be pretty laborious once again this season.
Jones may not be very good, but he has some serious jack-offs playing WR for him...
I’m happier than I’ve been in a while in the direction
of the team/franchise but unfortunately it looks like 2022 is going to be a rough go and we’re going to be picking in the single digits again.
Our CBs are going to get eaten alive and we’re just going to have to wait until next year to upgrade there. Even Neal working on his balance and showing the improvement that Thomas did toward the end of his rookie year is crucial.
RE: Worst play of the night that had any bearing on the season was that
NYG rushing 177 yds NE 18 yds
I believe the Giants didn't have one running play for a loss.
Did Wan’dale do anything? Aside from Thibideaux I am most looking forward to seeing him this year.
Not much from either of those two in limited action.
Tyrod Taylor was flashier than DJ and took more risks. He had a couple of errant throws, but overall he was very good tonight.
Really liked what I saw from the RB depth. Corbin, Williams and Brightwell all ran with juice. Platzgummer had a nice run towards the end of the game.
Kenny Golladay...at least pretend to give a shit?
Collin Johnson - nice game, but two major gaffes: 1) the fumble; and 2) he missed the throw from Taylor (which was a bit high, but 6'6 Johnson should catch it) that led to the Richie James Jr. catch.
Darius Slayton - I think once Shepard is a go, Slayton will be shopped and traded. I'd be shocked if he was in a Giants uniform against the Titans.
I thought the O-Line played well throughout. Whether it was the first, second or third team, they blocked well. Major shoutout to Ben Bredeson who played C for most of the game and played excellent.
Chris Hinton - learn from your dad on how to play with attitude and intensity
Quincy Roche - great game. Great job rushing the passer and playing against the run.
Elerson Smith - the stats may not show it, but he played a very good game as well.
Darrian Beavers might've been the best player on our team tonight. He was around the ball every time he was on the field.
Aaron Robinson - yikes. YEE-IKES.
Quote:
get hurt?
Lemeiux was in a boot after injuring his toe.
The guy can't catch a break...
Maybe that's the wrong choice of words
OL depth looked better than expected.
RB room is stocked well.
C.Johnson can not fumble....but I like what I saw.
Seemed very Vanilla.
Biggest concern....special coverage team was bad
Jones had more good plays than bad plays
Tyrod Taylor was flashier than DJ and took more risks. He had a couple of errant throws, but overall he was very good tonight.
Really liked what I saw from the RB depth. Corbin, Williams and Brightwell all ran with juice. Platzgummer had a nice run towards the end of the game.
Kenny Golladay...at least pretend to give a shit?
Collin Johnson - nice game, but two major gaffes: 1) the fumble; and 2) he missed the throw from Taylor (which was a bit high, but 6'6 Johnson should catch it) that led to the Richie James Jr. catch.
Darius Slayton - I think once Shepard is a go, Slayton will be shopped and traded. I'd be shocked if he was in a Giants uniform against the Titans.
I thought the O-Line played well throughout. Whether it was the first, second or third team, they blocked well. Major shoutout to Ben Bredeson who played C for most of the game and played excellent.
Chris Hinton - learn from your dad on how to play with attitude and intensity
Quincy Roche - great game. Great job rushing the passer and playing against the run.
Elerson Smith - the stats may not show it, but he played a very good game as well.
Darrian Beavers might've been the best player on our team tonight. He was around the ball every time he was on the field.
Aaron Robinson - yikes. YEE-IKES.
Pretty solid summary, actually.
✔
@art_stapleton
Just talked to #Giants LG Shane Lemieux in the locker room. He's in the walking boot and will go for tests tomorrow morning to determine the severity of the toe injury. Hopeful it's not turf toe, but won't know extent or diagnosis until after his doctor's visit. So we'll see.
@Giants
Coach Daboll's postgame speech 🗣
https://twitter.com/Giants/status/1557928395920523264 - ( New Window )
Because he's been the best special teams coach the Giants have had since the 1990s.
Quote:
I dont know why the giants kept the ST coach. I keep seeing simple mistakes by the gunners almost every play. Last year was nothing great as well.
Because he's been the best special teams coach the Giants have had since the 1990s.
He's no Sweatman!
Brightwell
Slayton
Corbin
Antonio
Beavers
That Wr who made the richoet catch
Players that disappointed.
Daniel Bellinger (Did not block well)
Aaron Robinson
Kenny Golladay (he pissed me off something fierce). Didn't run through his route. very lazy route running.
Overall, way way better than last year.
Taylor at QB2 is night and day compared to past backups.
Brightwell, Williams & Corbin all ran hard. RB3 going to be an interesting battle although Williams looked the best IMO.
Richie James can play. Always liked him with Niners but injuries derailed him. I bet he'll end up seeing quite a few snaps and having a nice impact this season (esp with how fragile KT is)
Neal will be okay but has to work on his balance & pass sets. Already looks like a plus run blocker.
Relying on 4th rounder Bellinger & the others in the TE room is uninspiring. Hoping a nice option shakes free from a loaded TE room during cutdowns (Baltimore?)
Aaron Robinson is going to get picked on. He got picked on versus Philly last year and was bailed out by Reagor's drops. Similar to TE room- they need to be working the waiver wire hard. Don't feel great about the CB room beyond Adoree.
Young LB's always look great in preseason games but Beavers & McFadden were all over the place. Beavers especially- physical and looked lighter on his feet than his college tape showed.
Golladay- when do the Giants have an out in his contract?
I thought Taylor looked good overall. But, he got away with a few high passes in the middle of the field. But, he looked good in the pocket, was confident, knew when to break the pocket, and fairly accurate. At the very worst, he is the best backup we have had in a LONG time.
Brightwell and the other backup RBs looked good.
Beavers was my favorite guy to see tonight. I think he may be one of the best steals of the draft when all is said and done.
I wouldn't mind having another punter in for a look.
Neal is having work done with his technique. He will be messed up while trying to make the changes. This was mentioned by a couple of other OL(technique change).
Nah, he was just beat off the line and not quick enough to catch up. Not sure the safeties had anything to do with it.
And what is this shite that Robinson has to be given plenty of rope because he's transitioning from slot to a boundary CB. Simply not true to the purveyors of miss-information. He was drafted as a CB. period.
And, as noted on game thread, his notable plays in practice, including a pick or two, have come when he's been matched on....wait for it.....KG.
Golladay is a statue 'moving' through his patterns. Dreadful and getting worse.
Darrian Beavers might've been the best player on our team tonight. He was around the ball every time he was on the field.
'Nak, I tried to pick Smith's play out, but didn't have much success spotting him. Not disagreeing, just couldn't find him.
Beavers, who by all rights based on what we saw last night--qualified by fact that d was going vs Pats' backups--should start week 1. He was outstanding. Reminds me a little bit of the ILB from a couple years ago in that he too had a good nose for the football, Connelly was his name?, who was injured early in season (knee) and never made a successful return.
But Beavers is bigger, faster, more powerful tackler. Give JS and crew credit here.
Tyrod Taylor is better than other back-up QBs we've had in a long time, but he could have easily had 3 picks last night.
Webb is actually WORSE than I remember him being when he was on the Giants. Wow, like really bad.
Robinson doesn't play smart football. He needs a lot of coaching.
The Giants Corners could have easily been called for multiple PI penalties. I was shocked there were no flags on some of the plays. The refs overall were terrible.
All of the RBs looked good. Brightwell was running guys over!
I think I saw more "Open" Giant WRs last night than I saw all of last season combined. That is what good coaching can do!
Kinda got the impression he might get a lot of playing time this year.
@Giants
Coach Daboll's postgame speech 🗣 https://twitter.com/Giants/status/1557928395920523264 - ( New Window )
Nice to see these back after the Judge post game speeches were rarely shown.
The offense and the defense isn’t planned or schemed in any way other than to obscure any actual advantage. Players don’t want to get hurt anymore than coaches and fans want them to get hurt so the guys who know they’re on the roster either don’t play or they play to avoid injury. I guess that leave bubble players to try and make the team and that’s always interesting to see. Occasionally I suppose a superstar emerges à la Vict’ah Cruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuzzzzzzzz. But, them guys are far and very few in between.
So, pretty much can’t take anything away from the game except for the injury report.
The offense and the defense isn’t planned or schemed in any way other than to obscure any actual advantage. Players don’t want to get hurt anymore than coaches and fans want them to get hurt so the guys who know they’re on the roster either don’t play or they play to avoid injury. I guess that leave bubble players to try and make the team and that’s always interesting to see. Occasionally I suppose a superstar emerges à la Vict’ah Cruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuzzzzzzzz. But, them guys are far and very few in between.
So, pretty much can’t take anything away from the game except for the injury report.
I will say you do in the sense that the physicality of teams are apparent. Last year when we played the Pats, that first team defense looked fierce and they were fierce.
The one guy I didn't see mentioned is Devery Henderson who took over for AT early in the game and played a ton of snaps. I was expecting him to get beat like a drum but he held his own all game.
Thought both of our QBs were a little sketchy with Taylor showing a bit more poise/awareness with bodies around him versus Jones.
Golladay can't be this bad, can he? And when paired with Jones, they are just an awful combination.
First Team offense not getting a touchdown was disappointing.
OL reserves did a credible job against whatever they were facing. Our First Team OL wasn't anything special.
Any injuries?
we looked Competent... which may not sound like much, but compared to past years (especially pre-season where we often couldn't move the ball 10 years all of the 2nd half in previous years) this was a major upgrade.
Let's hope it continues and we keep getting better.
that's funny and true
Pass Blocking will come with time. Run blocking is encouraging.
ouch
2. We all love Beavers
Wan'Dale and Thibodeaux didn't play a whole lot. Neal same although he got spun around on the playaction call and allowed a sack.
Flott got injured and didn't jump out. Not necessarily bad but hopefully he's ok.
Ezeudu looked decent but better in the run.
Bellinger didn't impress but it's his first game and pressed against better players. Sadly no other TE stuck out. Feel like Schoen will look at cuts soon perhaps for both 2nd and 3rd guys.
McFadden looked okay. Beavers stood out and was very active.
Would have liked to see them convert aTD on that first drive but it is obvious Golladay is going to continue to be a problem for this team. Toney has got to get onto the field and maybe this Wandale Robinson can help some, but passing seems like it will be pretty laborious once again this season.
Jones may not be very good, but he has some serious jack-offs playing WR for him...
Our CBs are going to get eaten alive and we’re just going to have to wait until next year to upgrade there. Even Neal working on his balance and showing the improvement that Thomas did toward the end of his rookie year is crucial.
How does it have any bearing on the season? Did someone get hurt?
Quote:
1st and 10 sack on the attempted screen pass with Jones. It wasn't there, throw it away. No need to be 2nd and 18 there.
How does it have any bearing on the season? Did someone get hurt?
I know he wore 21…..but I saw some flashes of early Tiki.