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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2022 10:17 pm
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christian : 8/11/2022 10:19 pm : link
I thought the opening drive looked altogether professional.
A lot to work on but  
jvm52106 : 8/11/2022 10:19 pm : link
Some real positives. I want to see more from WR's but I like Richie James to make this team.
Impressed with running game  
Rick in Dallas : 8/11/2022 10:20 pm : link
Best the OL subs have looked in years
I’m glad  
Jolly Blue Giant : 8/11/2022 10:20 pm : link
They won. Seriously.
Best I can  
darren in pdx : 8/11/2022 10:20 pm : link
say is that the looked like an NFL team out there running a modern offensive scheme even though it was very vanilla. Not a complete embarrassment like previous preseasons.
Did anyone  
pjcas18 : 8/11/2022 10:20 pm : link
get hurt?
I posted on the other thread, but probably fits better  
eric2425ny : 8/11/2022 10:21 pm : link
here. As a team, 33 carries, 177 yards, and a TD. 5.4 YPC. When’s the last time we have seen this team run that efficiently?
RE: Did anyone  
christian : 8/11/2022 10:21 pm : link
In comment 15778547 pjcas18 said:
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get hurt?


Lemeiux was in a boot after injuring his toe.
Looked like football to me  
BillT : 8/11/2022 10:21 pm : link
That’s a step up from last year. And a W.
Amen  
FatHeadTommy : 8/11/2022 10:22 pm : link
Looked better is places. They had a pulse.
RE: Did anyone  
Simms11 : 8/11/2022 10:22 pm : link
In comment 15778547 pjcas18 said:
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get hurt?


Flott also apparently has a groin injury and Douglas an ankle
RE: I posted on the other thread, but probably fits better  
BillT : 8/11/2022 10:23 pm : link
In comment 15778549 eric2425ny said:
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here. As a team, 33 carries, 177 yards, and a TD. 5.4 YPC. When’s the last time we have seen this team run that efficiently?

This is what I think is what could be a plus for the O. I think this could be a pretty decent running team.
I can't  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2022 10:23 pm : link
remember a time when our 2nd and 3rd team OL looked competent in the preseason.

Biggest disappointment was Aaron Robinson, but I won't write him off yet. It happens.

Lemieux's injury is worrisome given the depth situation on the OL.
As a Giants fan, I'm happy with any win, and last second ones  
Marty in Albany : 8/11/2022 10:24 pm : link
are among my favorites. Enjoy the day.
My only takeaway from the game is we finally have  
PatersonPlank : 8/11/2022 10:25 pm : link
a legitimate NFL coaching staff. I always wondered why other teams could look professional and we couldn't, even though their players sucked too
Its on to the bengals!  
thrunthrublue : 8/11/2022 10:25 pm : link
1-0…..giants played like they finally have coaches and schemes!
RE: RE: Did anyone  
section125 : 8/11/2022 10:25 pm : link
In comment 15778551 christian said:
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get hurt?



Lemeiux was in a boot after injuring his toe.


Jamil Douglas with an ankle, too.
Some positives, many things to work on  
Since1976 : 8/11/2022 10:26 pm : link
Tough to gauge in 1st preseason game. Look to see improvement in each preseason game. Hope the whole team can gel and show real life in 2nd half of season after they get into rhythm. If they stay healthy. This is not a good team. This is a multi year rebuild. I just want to see improvement this season.
The  
AcidTest : 8/11/2022 10:26 pm : link
RBs looked, as did Johnson, Beavers, McFadden, and Bredeson.

The injuries to Lemieux, Flott, and Douglas are concerning.

My guess is we'll be scanning the waiver wire for an OL and WR.
Lot of rust to clean up  
JerseyCityJoe : 8/11/2022 10:26 pm : link
BBI however was in mid season form. In the game discussion T Taylor walks onto the field and 3 posters automatically say he looks better than Jones in the pocket.
Three hero’s today  
M.S. : 8/11/2022 10:26 pm : link

Our pass blocking all game long

Our run blocking

Our running backs

Three not so good:

Aaron Robinson

Gilbert

Davis Webb
RE: I can't  
christian : 8/11/2022 10:27 pm : link
In comment 15778557 Eric from BBI said:
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Lemieux's injury is worrisome given the depth situation on the OL.


Yup. Ezeudu goes from back-up everything, to starting left guard if it's serious.
 
ryanmkeane : 8/11/2022 10:27 pm : link
Barkley looked more closer to himself as well. That’s a positive
Beavers also played  
M.S. : 8/11/2022 10:27 pm : link

Very well.

This bad boy can tackle
RE: The  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2022 10:27 pm : link
In comment 15778565 AcidTest said:
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RBs looked, as did Johnson, Beavers, McFadden, and Bredeson.

The injuries to Lemieux, Flott, and Douglas are concerning.

My guess is we'll be scanning the waiver wire for an OL and WR.


I have to re-watch the tape, but both rookie inside linebackers certainly caught my eye.
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broadbandz : 8/11/2022 10:29 pm : link
Beavers and Corbin looked like pure studs. Our gm is legit as hell.
Missed Q1...  
Brown_Hornet : 8/11/2022 10:29 pm : link
...but the 2s & 3s were fun to watch.
By my count looks like Giants rushed  
M.S. : 8/11/2022 10:30 pm : link

For about 170 yards.

Pats only about 50-60.

I like that!
Beavers was my favorite player on the field tonight.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/11/2022 10:31 pm : link
Dude was all over the field and wherever the ball was tonight, he wasn't there too much later. Very impressive for his first pre-season game ever.
RE: The  
section125 : 8/11/2022 10:31 pm : link
In comment 15778565 AcidTest said:
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RBs looked, as did Johnson, Beavers, McFadden, and Bredeson.

The injuries to Lemieux, Flott, and Douglas are concerning.

My guess is we'll be scanning the waiver wire for an OL and WR.


Flott - missed that one. What was it?
Davis Webb  
Anakim : 8/11/2022 10:32 pm : link
How about he just retire now, we get an extra roster spot and we can make him the assistant QB coach?
RE: RE: The  
HewlettGiant : 8/11/2022 10:32 pm : link
In comment 15778576 section125 said:
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In comment 15778565 AcidTest said:


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RBs looked, as did Johnson, Beavers, McFadden, and Bredeson.

The injuries to Lemieux, Flott, and Douglas are concerning.

My guess is we'll be scanning the waiver wire for an OL and WR.



Flott - missed that one. What was it?



Hamstring
Roche  
M.S. : 8/11/2022 10:33 pm : link
Also played well
I'm satisfied under the circumstances -  
Del Shofner : 8/11/2022 10:33 pm : link
looked like we had a plan, which is a change, and some of the rookies and recent acquisitions looked good. Very vanilla - I don't think either the O or the D tried to engage in much deception.

Hopefully none of the injuries is serious.
...  
christian : 8/11/2022 10:33 pm : link
TE looks like a pretty big weakness.
RE: Davis Webb  
section125 : 8/11/2022 10:33 pm : link
In comment 15778577 Anakim said:
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How about he just retire now, we get an extra roster spot and we can make him the assistant QB coach?


I think he will be out on the last cut.
If this was last year  
WillieYoung : 8/11/2022 10:34 pm : link
every single injured player would be out for the year.

We dominated the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball which means nothing, except it's so far from where we have been the last 5 years that I'm nearly giddy
Flott groin injury as reported by NFLN  
Rick in Dallas : 8/11/2022 10:34 pm : link
Not sure how serious these injuries are in terms of season opener
The big takeaway from this game is  
St. Jimmy : 8/11/2022 10:35 pm : link
why the fuck is Malcolm Butler back on the Patriots when they wrecked the defense to bench him to hand the Philadelphia Eagles a Superbowl?
Flott  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2022 10:35 pm : link
was a groin.
I mentioned this on the game thread...  
bw in dc : 8/11/2022 10:36 pm : link
Two positives for me: OL looked like it had a nice blend of quality and quantity, and I liked the team speed on defense.

Hopefully, Robinson can bounce back and get this catastrophe behind him.
Robinson is very handsy and will need to learn  
Rick in Dallas : 8/11/2022 10:41 pm : link
How to look back for the pass in coverage
Those are worrisome injuries  
Joe Beckwith : 8/11/2022 10:42 pm : link
given overall lack of depth, especially the groin on Flott and the Lemieux ankle.
Not sure why you'd be disappointed in Robinson  
Snablats : 8/11/2022 10:42 pm : link
He is a slot corner trying to play outside corner
Robinson  
JohnG in Albany : 8/11/2022 10:44 pm : link
He seems to mostly be there and yet not there.

Not beaten by miles but no ball awareness and grabby.
RE: Not sure why you'd be disappointed in Robinson  
John In CO : 8/11/2022 10:44 pm : link
In comment 15778595 Snablats said:
[quote] He is a slot corner trying to play outside corner [/quote

Anyone who thought he was gonna make that transition and not have to go through some struggles was dreaming. This is how you learn and hopefully improve game to game.
you have to hope Wandall is the real deal  
fish3321 : 8/11/2022 10:44 pm : link
Tayqoun Thorton certainly looked the part against Robinson tonight and he was drafted after the giants pick in the 2nd round
RE: RE: Davis Webb  
larryflower37 : 8/11/2022 10:45 pm : link
In comment 15778584 section125 said:
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In comment 15778577 Anakim said:


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How about he just retire now, we get an extra roster spot and we can make him the assistant QB coach?



I think he will be out on the last cut.

You need a bunch of QBs in camp and he some what knows the offense.
They are not keeping 3 qbs
RE: Davis Webb  
Ivan15 : 8/11/2022 10:46 pm : link
In comment 15778577 Anakim said:
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How about he just retire now, we get an extra roster spot and we can make him the assistant QB coach?


I think the plan all along was to have him on the practice squad as the emergency QB but also to coach/manage the practice squad. I don’t know how that would work contractually but that’s what I think will happen. It’s a compromise rather than letting him join Buffalo as an assistant.
Worst play of the night that had any bearing on the season was that  
St. Jimmy : 8/11/2022 10:54 pm : link
1st and 10 sack on the attempted screen pass with Jones. It wasn't there, throw it away. No need to be 2nd and 18 there.
We looked like a professional team tonight  
kelly : 8/11/2022 10:55 pm : link
I don't think we ever looked professional last year.

OL looked the best in years.

All the running backs ran hard and well.

Johnson was the best Giant receiver tonight.

Defense was solid.

We won't be great but we won't look outdated. Passive and disorganized.

KG should not make this team. He just is not any good. Keeping lousy players because of their contract is sending the wrong message to the team. Performance over contract should rule.
Do these injuries on the OL open the door for  
No Where Man : 8/11/2022 10:56 pm : link
Nick Gates to make the opening day roster?
I didn’t see it, had to work tonight  
Greg from LI : 8/11/2022 10:57 pm : link
But it sounds like the talent deficiency was still obvious while they looked well coached. I’ll take that for a start and call it a win.

Did Wan’dale do anything? Aside from Thibideaux I am most looking forward to seeing him this year.
RE: I didn’t see it, had to work tonight  
ryanmkeane : 8/11/2022 11:04 pm : link
In comment 15778607 Greg from LI said:
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But it sounds like the talent deficiency was still obvious while they looked well coached. I’ll take that for a start and call it a win.

Did Wan’dale do anything? Aside from Thibideaux I am most looking forward to seeing him this year.

Wan’Dale did not have a catch but I don’t think he was targeted. But he was in every snap with the starters.
RE: I can't  
Matt in SGS : 8/11/2022 11:04 pm : link
In comment 15778557 Eric from BBI said:
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remember a time when our 2nd and 3rd team OL looked competent in the preseason.

Biggest disappointment was Aaron Robinson, but I won't write him off yet. It happens.

Lemieux's injury is worrisome given the depth situation on the OL.


I think you hit on all the main things I saw. I was actually really impressed with the OL 2nd & 3rd teams. It's been forever that we can say that. They were moving people and it wasn't a jailbreak on passes every play.

Beavers looks like he could be a player too.
 
ryanmkeane : 8/11/2022 11:05 pm : link
Really hope Lemieux isn’t badly hurt. That would really suck. That starting OL 5 is the best unit we’ve had in forever.
My biggest takeaway  
Des51 : 8/11/2022 11:08 pm : link
ESPN stats NYG passing 241 yds NE 256 yds.
NYG rushing 177 yds NE 18 yds
I believe the Giants didn't have one running play for a loss.
RE: I didn’t see it, had to work tonight  
barens : 8/11/2022 11:08 pm : link
In comment 15778607 Greg from LI said:
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But it sounds like the talent deficiency was still obvious while they looked well coached. I’ll take that for a start and call it a win.

Did Wan’dale do anything? Aside from Thibideaux I am most looking forward to seeing him this year.


Not much from either of those two in limited action.
Some thoughts:  
Anakim : 8/11/2022 11:09 pm : link
Daniel Jones..solid outing. Nothing spectacular or awe-inspiring, but he did a fine job.

Tyrod Taylor was flashier than DJ and took more risks. He had a couple of errant throws, but overall he was very good tonight.

Really liked what I saw from the RB depth. Corbin, Williams and Brightwell all ran with juice. Platzgummer had a nice run towards the end of the game.

Kenny Golladay...at least pretend to give a shit?

Collin Johnson - nice game, but two major gaffes: 1) the fumble; and 2) he missed the throw from Taylor (which was a bit high, but 6'6 Johnson should catch it) that led to the Richie James Jr. catch.

Darius Slayton - I think once Shepard is a go, Slayton will be shopped and traded. I'd be shocked if he was in a Giants uniform against the Titans.

I thought the O-Line played well throughout. Whether it was the first, second or third team, they blocked well. Major shoutout to Ben Bredeson who played C for most of the game and played excellent.

Chris Hinton - learn from your dad on how to play with attitude and intensity

Quincy Roche - great game. Great job rushing the passer and playing against the run.

Elerson Smith - the stats may not show it, but he played a very good game as well.

Darrian Beavers might've been the best player on our team tonight. He was around the ball every time he was on the field.

Aaron Robinson - yikes. YEE-IKES.

RE: RE: Did anyone  
sb from NYT Forum : 8/11/2022 11:09 pm : link
In comment 15778551 christian said:
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In comment 15778547 pjcas18 said:


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get hurt?



Lemeiux was in a boot after injuring his toe.


The guy can't catch a break...

Maybe that's the wrong choice of words
I might be in the minority  
Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) : 8/11/2022 11:10 pm : link
But I thought the pass blocking sucked. Jones and Taylor constantly had to be on the move . Webb just sucks .
Hopefully, injuries are minor.....team can not afford losing anyone.  
George from PA : 8/11/2022 11:11 pm : link
175+ yards rushing is very impressive.....especially against NE.

OL depth looked better than expected.

RB room is stocked well.

C.Johnson can not fumble....but I like what I saw.

Seemed very Vanilla.

Biggest concern....special coverage team was bad
Correction  
Des51 : 8/11/2022 11:11 pm : link
NE had 52 yds rushing
RE: Worst play of the night that had any bearing on the season was that  
sb from NYT Forum : 8/11/2022 11:12 pm : link
In comment 15778604 St. Jimmy said:
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1st and 10 sack on the attempted screen pass with Jones. It wasn't there, throw it away. No need to be 2nd and 18 there.


Jones had more good plays than bad plays
 
ryanmkeane : 8/11/2022 11:16 pm : link
The fact that we could have a somewhat dominant LT if he can just stay healthy is also nice. Hopefully the foot issue is behind him
RE: Some thoughts:  
bw in dc : 8/11/2022 11:20 pm : link
In comment 15778615 Anakim said:
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Daniel Jones..solid outing. Nothing spectacular or awe-inspiring, but he did a fine job.

Tyrod Taylor was flashier than DJ and took more risks. He had a couple of errant throws, but overall he was very good tonight.

Really liked what I saw from the RB depth. Corbin, Williams and Brightwell all ran with juice. Platzgummer had a nice run towards the end of the game.

Kenny Golladay...at least pretend to give a shit?

Collin Johnson - nice game, but two major gaffes: 1) the fumble; and 2) he missed the throw from Taylor (which was a bit high, but 6'6 Johnson should catch it) that led to the Richie James Jr. catch.

Darius Slayton - I think once Shepard is a go, Slayton will be shopped and traded. I'd be shocked if he was in a Giants uniform against the Titans.

I thought the O-Line played well throughout. Whether it was the first, second or third team, they blocked well. Major shoutout to Ben Bredeson who played C for most of the game and played excellent.

Chris Hinton - learn from your dad on how to play with attitude and intensity

Quincy Roche - great game. Great job rushing the passer and playing against the run.

Elerson Smith - the stats may not show it, but he played a very good game as well.

Darrian Beavers might've been the best player on our team tonight. He was around the ball every time he was on the field.

Aaron Robinson - yikes. YEE-IKES.


Pretty solid summary, actually.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2022 11:20 pm : link
Art Stapleton

@art_stapleton
Just talked to #Giants LG Shane Lemieux in the locker room. He's in the walking boot and will go for tests tomorrow morning to determine the severity of the toe injury. Hopeful it's not turf toe, but won't know extent or diagnosis until after his doctor's visit. So we'll see.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2022 11:21 pm : link
New York Giants
@Giants
Coach Daboll's postgame speech 🗣
https://twitter.com/Giants/status/1557928395920523264 - ( New Window )
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broadbandz : 8/11/2022 11:21 pm : link
I dont know why the giants kept the ST coach. I keep seeing simple mistakes by the gunners almost every play. Last year was nothing great as well.
RE: ...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2022 11:25 pm : link
In comment 15778628 broadbandz said:
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I dont know why the giants kept the ST coach. I keep seeing simple mistakes by the gunners almost every play. Last year was nothing great as well.


Because he's been the best special teams coach the Giants have had since the 1990s.
RE: RE: ...  
Anakim : 8/11/2022 11:41 pm : link
In comment 15778630 Eric from BBI said:
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I dont know why the giants kept the ST coach. I keep seeing simple mistakes by the gunners almost every play. Last year was nothing great as well.



Because he's been the best special teams coach the Giants have had since the 1990s.


He's no Sweatman!
Back of the Roster Competence Level  
clatterbuck : 8/11/2022 11:44 pm : link
was just better than the last few years. No jailbreak sacks. Running backs not getting blown up in the backfield, actual holes to hit. D really good against the run. Not too many penalties, minimum confusion. Coaching matters. Organization matters. And even in preseason, and especially for this team, taking the ball down the field for a winning FG is a nice start.
My thoughts, Players that played well tonight include:  
MartyNJ1969 : 8/11/2022 11:48 pm : link
Flott
Brightwell
Slayton
Corbin
Antonio
Beavers
That Wr who made the richoet catch

Players that disappointed.

Daniel Bellinger (Did not block well)
Aaron Robinson
Kenny Golladay (he pissed me off something fierce). Didn't run through his route. very lazy route running.

Overall, way way better than last year.



My takeaway  
Breeze_94 : 8/12/2022 1:56 am : link
this team is still very far away from being good.

Taylor at QB2 is night and day compared to past backups.

Brightwell, Williams & Corbin all ran hard. RB3 going to be an interesting battle although Williams looked the best IMO.

Richie James can play. Always liked him with Niners but injuries derailed him. I bet he'll end up seeing quite a few snaps and having a nice impact this season (esp with how fragile KT is)

Neal will be okay but has to work on his balance & pass sets. Already looks like a plus run blocker.

Relying on 4th rounder Bellinger & the others in the TE room is uninspiring. Hoping a nice option shakes free from a loaded TE room during cutdowns (Baltimore?)

Aaron Robinson is going to get picked on. He got picked on versus Philly last year and was bailed out by Reagor's drops. Similar to TE room- they need to be working the waiver wire hard. Don't feel great about the CB room beyond Adoree.

Young LB's always look great in preseason games but Beavers & McFadden were all over the place. Beavers especially- physical and looked lighter on his feet than his college tape showed.

Golladay- when do the Giants have an out in his contract?

Unfortuately, I missed the 1st Quarter  
Matt M. : 8/12/2022 3:21 am : link
So, I didn't see Jones. I really wanted to see Robinson (WR), but it sounds like nothing missed there.

I thought Taylor looked good overall. But, he got away with a few high passes in the middle of the field. But, he looked good in the pocket, was confident, knew when to break the pocket, and fairly accurate. At the very worst, he is the best backup we have had in a LONG time.

Brightwell and the other backup RBs looked good.

Beavers was my favorite guy to see tonight. I think he may be one of the best steals of the draft when all is said and done.

I wouldn't mind having another punter in for a look.
My biggest concern was Evan Neal. I know he's just a rookie and needs  
Ira : 8/12/2022 3:51 am : link
patience, but I'm not expecting very good play from him at right tackle this season.
Golladay is a shittier Reuben Randle  
penkap75 : 8/12/2022 6:35 am : link
.
Some of Aaron Robinson's problem may have been the safety too.  
St. Jimmy : 8/12/2022 6:38 am : link
24 was not getting over there on those deep balls. If that is McKinney back there the results might be better.
RE: My biggest concern was Evan Neal. I know he's just a rookie and needs  
section125 : 8/12/2022 6:55 am : link
In comment 15778670 Ira said:
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patience, but I'm not expecting very good play from him at right tackle this season.


Neal is having work done with his technique. He will be messed up while trying to make the changes. This was mentioned by a couple of other OL(technique change).
RE: Some of Aaron Robinson's problem may have been the safety too.  
section125 : 8/12/2022 6:57 am : link
In comment 15778682 St. Jimmy said:
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24 was not getting over there on those deep balls. If that is McKinney back there the results might be better.


Nah, he was just beat off the line and not quick enough to catch up. Not sure the safeties had anything to do with it.
RE: Some of Aaron Robinson's problem may have been the safety too.  
ColHowPepper : 8/12/2022 7:09 am : link
In comment 15778688 section125 said:
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Nah, he was just beat off the line and not quick enough to catch up. Not sure the safeties had anything to do with it.
Agree, section.

And what is this shite that Robinson has to be given plenty of rope because he's transitioning from slot to a boundary CB. Simply not true to the purveyors of miss-information. He was drafted as a CB. period.

And, as noted on game thread, his notable plays in practice, including a pick or two, have come when he's been matched on....wait for it.....KG.

Golladay is a statue 'moving' through his patterns. Dreadful and getting worse.
RE: Some thoughts:  
ColHowPepper : 8/12/2022 7:14 am : link
In comment 15778615 Anakim said:
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Elerson Smith - the stats may not show it, but he played a very good game as well.

Darrian Beavers might've been the best player on our team tonight. He was around the ball every time he was on the field.


'Nak, I tried to pick Smith's play out, but didn't have much success spotting him. Not disagreeing, just couldn't find him.

Beavers, who by all rights based on what we saw last night--qualified by fact that d was going vs Pats' backups--should start week 1. He was outstanding. Reminds me a little bit of the ILB from a couple years ago in that he too had a good nose for the football, Connelly was his name?, who was injured early in season (knee) and never made a successful return.

But Beavers is bigger, faster, more powerful tackler. Give JS and crew credit here.
A few things I saw  
ZogZerg : 8/12/2022 7:18 am : link
Specials didn't look so special, although Gano looked good!

Tyrod Taylor is better than other back-up QBs we've had in a long time, but he could have easily had 3 picks last night.

Webb is actually WORSE than I remember him being when he was on the Giants. Wow, like really bad.

Robinson doesn't play smart football. He needs a lot of coaching.

The Giants Corners could have easily been called for multiple PI penalties. I was shocked there were no flags on some of the plays. The refs overall were terrible.

All of the RBs looked good. Brightwell was running guys over!

I think I saw more "Open" Giant WRs last night than I saw all of last season combined. That is what good coaching can do!

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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/12/2022 7:28 am : link
Missed the game...how did the rooks look?
Did Jihad Ward play?  
lono801 : 8/12/2022 7:34 am : link
I have not read everything here yet…

Kinda got the impression he might get a lot of playing time this year.
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ryanmkeane : 8/12/2022 7:54 am : link
i think the main story of the night is Darrian Beavers looks like a legitimately good starting linebacker
RE: ...  
Sean : 8/12/2022 8:08 am : link
In comment 15778626 Eric from BBI said:
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New York Giants
@Giants
Coach Daboll's postgame speech 🗣 https://twitter.com/Giants/status/1557928395920523264 - ( New Window )

Nice to see these back after the Judge post game speeches were rarely shown.
Has pre season ever indicated anything?  
trueblueinpw : 8/12/2022 8:11 am : link
Putting aside injuries, I don’t take any stock in any element of preseason. For as long as I’ve watched pro football the pre season has been entirely meaningless. It’s probably just as effective reading tealeaves as it is watching the pre season games.

The offense and the defense isn’t planned or schemed in any way other than to obscure any actual advantage. Players don’t want to get hurt anymore than coaches and fans want them to get hurt so the guys who know they’re on the roster either don’t play or they play to avoid injury. I guess that leave bubble players to try and make the team and that’s always interesting to see. Occasionally I suppose a superstar emerges à la Vict’ah Cruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuzzzzzzzz. But, them guys are far and very few in between.

So, pretty much can’t take anything away from the game except for the injury report.
RE: Has pre season ever indicated anything?  
BigBlueJ : 8/12/2022 8:12 am : link
In comment 15778717 trueblueinpw said:
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Putting aside injuries, I don’t take any stock in any element of preseason. For as long as I’ve watched pro football the pre season has been entirely meaningless. It’s probably just as effective reading tealeaves as it is watching the pre season games.

The offense and the defense isn’t planned or schemed in any way other than to obscure any actual advantage. Players don’t want to get hurt anymore than coaches and fans want them to get hurt so the guys who know they’re on the roster either don’t play or they play to avoid injury. I guess that leave bubble players to try and make the team and that’s always interesting to see. Occasionally I suppose a superstar emerges à la Vict’ah Cruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuzzzzzzzz. But, them guys are far and very few in between.

So, pretty much can’t take anything away from the game except for the injury report.


I will say you do in the sense that the physicality of teams are apparent. Last year when we played the Pats, that first team defense looked fierce and they were fierce.
Everyone has mentioned  
Biteymax22 : 8/12/2022 8:15 am : link
Beavers and rightfully so, Tae Crowder shouldn't feel 2 comfortable in his spot next to Blake...

The one guy I didn't see mentioned is Devery Henderson who took over for AT early in the game and played a ton of snaps. I was expecting him to get beat like a drum but he held his own all game.
I though Beavers looked like an NFL player.  
NYGgolfer : 8/12/2022 8:20 am : link
Robinson did not and will be a target.

Thought both of our QBs were a little sketchy with Taylor showing a bit more poise/awareness with bodies around him versus Jones.

Golladay can't be this bad, can he? And when paired with Jones, they are just an awful combination.

First Team offense not getting a touchdown was disappointing.

OL reserves did a credible job against whatever they were facing. Our First Team OL wasn't anything special.

Any injuries?
Overall, 'Competence'  
LG in NYC : 8/12/2022 8:28 am : link
that was the thought I was left with.

we looked Competent... which may not sound like much, but compared to past years (especially pre-season where we often couldn't move the ball 10 years all of the 2nd half in previous years) this was a major upgrade.

Let's hope it continues and we keep getting better.
RE: Everyone has mentioned  
ColHowPepper : 8/12/2022 8:34 am : link
In comment 15778721 Biteymax22 said:
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...The one guy I didn't see mentioned is Devery Henderson who took over for AT early in the game and played a ton of snaps. I was expecting him to get beat like a drum but he held his own all game.
Had similar impression, I had to look up #62 cuz I had no clue who wore that number. Also, little said about Glowinski, which I'll take as a good thing...as in when you don't hear an OL's name mentioned, he's not doing anything bad.
RE: Lot of rust to clean up  
Dr. D : 8/12/2022 8:44 am : link
In comment 15778566 JerseyCityJoe said:
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BBI however was in mid season form. In the game discussion T Taylor walks onto the field and 3 posters automatically say he looks better than Jones in the pocket.

that's funny and true
Really hoping Lemieux isn't a total loss  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/12/2022 8:56 am : link
That throws the OL depth into Flux.

Pass Blocking will come with time. Run blocking is encouraging.
RE: Golladay is a shittier Reuben Randle  
Dr. D : 8/12/2022 9:05 am : link
In comment 15778681 penkap75 said:
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ouch
A couple things I think we can all agree on  
Dr. D : 8/12/2022 9:12 am : link
1. KG might be the worst Giants FA signing ever
2. We all love Beavers
RE: ...  
Toth029 : 8/12/2022 9:18 am : link
In comment 15778700 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Missed the game...how did the rooks look?


Wan'Dale and Thibodeaux didn't play a whole lot. Neal same although he got spun around on the playaction call and allowed a sack.

Flott got injured and didn't jump out. Not necessarily bad but hopefully he's ok.

Ezeudu looked decent but better in the run.

Bellinger didn't impress but it's his first game and pressed against better players. Sadly no other TE stuck out. Feel like Schoen will look at cuts soon perhaps for both 2nd and 3rd guys.

McFadden looked okay. Beavers stood out and was very active.
I know it's only preseason but this game had a different  
Blue21 : 8/12/2022 9:29 am : link
Feel to it than in the past. Was it because NE didn't play many starters? I don't know. But it always felt like Giants were in this game and not overmatched. I thought all three QBs were fine for what was expected and the RBs were terrific. Hard nose running no dancing. Giants have work to do but a good first preseason game. Think coaches did a good job especially with no game planning. Loved the tempo of the offense. Got right to the line of scrimmage giving QBs time to see what defense was doing. Very aggressive style.
From my viewpoint I thought things looked halfway decent.  
Jimmy Googs : 8/12/2022 9:38 am : link
Team played with energy, ran the ball with a purpose and stopped it too. Gained a good amount of yards and moved the ball on almost every drive.

Would have liked to see them convert aTD on that first drive but it is obvious Golladay is going to continue to be a problem for this team. Toney has got to get onto the field and maybe this Wandale Robinson can help some, but passing seems like it will be pretty laborious once again this season.

Jones may not be very good, but he has some serious jack-offs playing WR for him...
I’m happier than I’ve been in a while in the direction  
Metnut : 8/12/2022 9:45 am : link
of the team/franchise but unfortunately it looks like 2022 is going to be a rough go and we’re going to be picking in the single digits again.

Our CBs are going to get eaten alive and we’re just going to have to wait until next year to upgrade there. Even Neal working on his balance and showing the improvement that Thomas did toward the end of his rookie year is crucial.
RE: Worst play of the night that had any bearing on the season was that  
Ron Johnson : 8/12/2022 9:50 am : link
In comment 15778604 St. Jimmy said:
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1st and 10 sack on the attempted screen pass with Jones. It wasn't there, throw it away. No need to be 2nd and 18 there.


How does it have any bearing on the season? Did someone get hurt?
I love  
Beef Wellington : 8/12/2022 10:09 am : link
Beavers!
RE: RE: Worst play of the night that had any bearing on the season was that  
St. Jimmy : 8/12/2022 10:36 am : link
In comment 15778827 Ron Johnson said:
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In comment 15778604 St. Jimmy said:


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1st and 10 sack on the attempted screen pass with Jones. It wasn't there, throw it away. No need to be 2nd and 18 there.



How does it have any bearing on the season? Did someone get hurt?
This true. I guess what I would like to see fixed.
Loved our running backs!  
GiantBlue : 8/12/2022 12:24 pm : link
Everyone mentions Barkley, Brightwell and Corbin…..but I liked Williams too.

I know he wore 21…..but I saw some flashes of early Tiki.
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