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The Kenny Golladay drop

Anakim : 8/12/2022 9:13 am
I'm not sure what I'm missing, but Bob and Carl last night said Golladay would've walked right into the endzone if he caught the pass, or at the very least, get a first and goal.

Just rewatching the play, the ball was accurately-thrown, but sort of down and even if Golladay caught it, he would've been short of the first down mark. And even if he completed the route and caught it standing, he would have at least two defenders to meet him at the point of catch so he would've had to overpower two guys to get to the endzone.


Not excusing Golladay because he ran a lackluster, incomplete route and he ended up dropping the ball, but I'm not sure where this narrative that it would've been a TD if Golladay caught it came from.
yeah, a bit speculative that it would have been a TD, but  
Del Shofner : 8/12/2022 9:15 am : link
I think it would have gotten a first down if he'd held on.

To me it wasn't so much that one play as that overall Golladay looks slow and can't separate from coverage.
Who knows? But I speculate at least a first and goal. Ironically  
Blue21 : 8/12/2022 9:20 am : link
KG s strength is suppose to be fighting for contested catches.
I agree with you  
M.S. : 8/12/2022 9:23 am : link

And I thought it would have been very difficult to both catch that pass and continue forward into the end zone, even without defenders draped all over him.

The pass was low, but Kenny Golladay must catch that ball 100% of the time... even if that means going to the ground every time.

He just screwed up.
Isn't this what we paid him for?  
Tom from LI : 8/12/2022 9:27 am : link
to make contested tough physical catches in traffic?

So disappointing.
The pass was likely designed to be low  
kdog77 : 8/12/2022 9:27 am : link
when thrown at the goal line to avoid WR tipping it up. Fact is it hit KG in his hands, so there is no excuse to drop it. I am not Jones fan but he took a hit on that play from a free blitzer while putting the ball where only his guy could catch it.
From my 1 look on TV  
Bob in Newburgh : 8/12/2022 9:27 am : link
Seemed like he easily had the leverage to make the 1st down.
Just blame it on Eli  
Jimmy Googs : 8/12/2022 9:29 am : link
...
I believe they were saying  
Gap92 : 8/12/2022 9:37 am : link
that he ran a lazy route and if he got there earlier it's an easy TD. He did look pretty damn lax coming off the line on the replay.
RE: I believe they were saying  
Del Shofner : 8/12/2022 9:40 am : link
In comment 15778807 Gap92 said:
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that he ran a lazy route and if he got there earlier it's an easy TD. He did look pretty damn lax coming off the line on the replay.


It was clear Banks thinks Golladay gives less than 100% effort. Maybe the TD comment was speculative but they wanted to make the point that Golladay wasn't all in. I liked their honesty in that regard.
Video of drop  
bluewave : 8/12/2022 9:59 am : link
if Daniel Jones can run over a DL to get into the endzone Golladay fight through a tackle by a CB to get that first down. He's right freaking there!!!

Golladay Drop - ( New Window )
RE: I believe they were saying  
Mad Mike : 8/12/2022 10:05 am : link
In comment 15778807 Gap92 said:
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that he ran a lazy route and if he got there earlier it's an easy TD. He did look pretty damn lax coming off the line on the replay.

Agreed, Banks was pretty clearly referring not just to holding onto the ball, but being in a better position when he got to the ball in the first place. Looking at the replay, I think he's probably right, at least with regards to the first, and possible the TD.
Agree with Bob, he had the leverage to make the first down  
JonC : 8/12/2022 10:13 am : link
The root problem was KG didn't attack his route or his break to the inside. He's got to run full speed throughout his route otherwise it throws off the timing for him to reach the spot Jones puts the pass and then be able to use the momentum to gain vertical ground.
Bad player  
Optimus-NY : 8/12/2022 10:14 am : link
Can't wait to release his ss either after this season or next.
Not excusing Golladay  
Ron Johnson : 8/12/2022 10:17 am : link
but plenty of vets just coast through preseason games just wanting to avoid injury. One of a multitude of reasons why you can't glean much from them.
Its a preseason game so no biggie  
Andy in Halifax : 8/12/2022 10:32 am : link
But objectively evaluating that play... its a horrendous drop by Golladay. Lazy route and that ball was at his numbers. Would have hit his numbers had he run the route properly. Still a very catchable ball, easily.

But, again, preseason and no big deal but that was a good throw by the QB and terrible job by the WR.

Most important thing to me was that whole route concept/play design... we actually had a guy get open in the red zone near the goalline. Haven't had much of that the past 2 years.
If he hadn’t gotten the first down  
BillT : 8/12/2022 10:32 am : link
It would have been 4th and 1 at the most. I’m pretty confident, given our run game last night, we could have gotten that. Would have liked the opportunity at the very least.
RE: Isn't this what we paid him for?  
Now Mike in MD : 8/12/2022 10:35 am : link
In comment 15778794 Tom from LI said:
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to make contested tough physical catches in traffic?

So disappointing.


True, but nothing about that catch was contested or physical. Which makes it even worse.
I think CB was trying to say  
kelsto811 : 8/12/2022 10:38 am : link
That if Golladay doesn't sit for that half second aka hesitate out of his break, that he had the space/time to beat the defender and score. I'm not sure if it was a designed delay but KG definitely hesitated out of his break,not fluid at all
For a big time signing  
Joe Beckwith : 8/12/2022 10:42 am : link
he is so non descript that it wasn’t until the pass down the right side later that he didn’t get to either that I realized it was him.
I was thinking, that guys gonna get cut.
It's clearly Jone's accuracy issues  
Spiciest Memelord : 8/12/2022 10:56 am : link
newly discovered by bbi this preseason, that he throws low in the redzone with like 7 guys standing around defending the end zone 🙄
RE: I think CB was trying to say  
Jimmy Googs : 8/12/2022 10:59 am : link
In comment 15778891 kelsto811 said:
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That if Golladay doesn't sit for that half second aka hesitate out of his break, that he had the space/time to beat the defender and score. I'm not sure if it was a designed delay but KG definitely hesitated out of his break,not fluid at all


Yep. They actually ran a good rub/pick there for a change and Golladay didn't do his job, at all...
RE: It's clearly Jone's accuracy issues  
Now Mike in MD : 8/12/2022 11:01 am : link
In comment 15778914 Spiciest Memelord said:
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newly discovered by bbi this preseason, that he throws low in the redzone with like 7 guys standing around defending the end zone 🙄


I don't know whether you are being sarcastic or really thing the throw was low.

If so (1) it was not. It was hip level; (2) the throw is designed to be lower (not low) because a tip a high throw could easily result in an interception; and (3) Galloday clearly does not break hard on the route.
Golliday looking like an expensive bust. Slower than Golden Tate  
MeanBunny : 8/12/2022 11:08 am : link
Honestly if I had a choice I would keep Slayton over Golliday. At least Jones and the team like him. Jones had a decent report with Slayton in his first year. Maybe that can come back. Golliday is polishing his gold watch
Poor Use of Personnel?  
Tim in JTown : 8/12/2022 11:21 am : link
I just question using a 6'4" receiver in that situation. Wouldn't you want to throw it up for him rather than have him go down for the ball?
Golliday ran a terrible route  
Rudy5757 : 8/12/2022 11:21 am : link
what Banks was saying is if he ran it correctly and kept going he would have scored. It was a half assed effort and maybe he didnt think he was getting the ball. But the ball was where it needed to be. Whether or not it would have been a 1st or even a TD doesnt matter. There was very little effort on the play.
Ron Johnson,  
Giant John : 8/12/2022 11:26 am : link
The problem is the guy hasn’t stopped coasting since the trade.
Forget the route...  
bw in dc : 8/12/2022 11:28 am : link
The problem was catching the ball. If a professional WR - one that is paid way too much, btw - can't make that play he should be traded, cut or demoted.
I’d like to see Schoen make an example of this bum.  
Giant John : 8/12/2022 11:30 am : link
No room on this team for slackers. Are you reading this KD?
RE: Forget the route...  
Spiciest Memelord : 8/12/2022 11:37 am : link
In comment 15778965 bw in dc said:
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The problem was catching the ball. If a professional WR - one that is paid way too much, btw - can't make that play he should be traded, cut or demoted.


Well it is presason and at least he dressed...

Yeah I don't think the route was bad, it was a double slant he was at split end so you usually want some space with the slot, plus the slot guy also hesitated so seems designed.
The fly route was even better  
5BowlsSoon : 8/12/2022 11:58 am : link
That CB had no problem blanketing KG all the way down the field. The only chance he had to catch it was if Jones threw a high jump ball. Oh well….
Kenny G would have put a lot of effort in the catch  
Spiciest Memelord : 8/12/2022 12:05 pm : link
the saxophonist that is.
RE: Kenny G would have put a lot of effort in the catch  
Jimmy Googs : 8/12/2022 12:07 pm : link
In comment 15779006 Spiciest Memelord said:
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the saxophonist that is.


savvy stuff...
Lazy lazy lazy  
JerseyCityJoe : 8/12/2022 12:11 pm : link
Golladay walked that route. Then wasn't ready when they threw it to him. Just awful.
Check the replay again, he most definitely would have scored  
sb from NYT Forum : 8/12/2022 12:12 pm : link
...His route was lazy; he didn't think he'd get the ball. But even if he caught it there was no one in front of him.
RE: Ron Johnson,  
Ron Johnson : 8/12/2022 12:16 pm : link
In comment 15778962 Giant John said:
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The problem is the guy hasn’t stopped coasting since the trade.


He played badly last year no doubt, but for a guy who already knows he's starting the time to start evaluating him for 2022 is @ Tenn.
RE: RE: Forget the route...  
bw in dc : 8/12/2022 12:21 pm : link
In comment 15778978 Spiciest Memelord said:
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In comment 15778965 bw in dc said:


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The problem was catching the ball. If a professional WR - one that is paid way too much, btw - can't make that play he should be traded, cut or demoted.



Well it is presason and at least he dressed...

Yeah I don't think the route was bad, it was a double slant he was at split end so you usually want some space with the slot, plus the slot guy also hesitated so seems designed.


The route concept was fine, and I have no issue with how KG ran his route. He's never been a precise route runner. No one is confusing him with Amari Cooper.

The only issue that should be discussed is the drop. Jones needs all the help he can get, and this guy has been a complete waste on the football field.
RE: I’d like to see Schoen make an example of this bum.  
giantBCP : 8/12/2022 12:25 pm : link
In comment 15778969 Giant John said:
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No room on this team for slackers. Are you reading this KD?


Schoen already knows that he’s an overpaid bum. Selecting Robinson in the second round of the draft was a big indication of that. I can’t see him lasting beyond next off-season.
RE: I agree with you  
VinegarPeppers : 8/12/2022 2:00 pm : link
Pass was where it should be in that route given the coverage. I was down because that way only Golladay COULD catch it. But he's not really interested in anything but cashing checks, apparently, because he appears disinterested and frankly entitled.

In comment 15778791 M.S. said:
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And I thought it would have been very difficult to both catch that pass and continue forward into the end zone, even without defenders draped all over him.

The pass was low, but Kenny Golladay must catch that ball 100% of the time... even if that means going to the ground every time.

He just screwed up.
RE: RE: I’d like to see Schoen make an example of this bum.  
Angel Eyes : 8/12/2022 2:37 pm : link
In comment 15779030 giantBCP said:
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In comment 15778969 Giant John said:


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No room on this team for slackers. Are you reading this KD?



Schoen already knows that he’s an overpaid bum. Selecting Robinson in the second round of the draft was a big indication of that. I can’t see him lasting beyond next off-season.

I beg to differ; Robinson and Golladay have pretty different skillsets. Robinson is more of a slot receiver, Golladay works more outside and is supposed to be good at contested catches.
Gottabigpayday Alias Golladay  
Alamo : 8/13/2022 7:50 am : link
This guy got his big money contract from the big suckers that were running this team..Now it's coast time until retirement..Don't get big time hurt..Play it safe..Don't worry about the HoF,because your not getting in,unless you buy a ticket at the front door, just like me..
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