NFT: Phillies at Mets Game 1. Scherzer

Now they just need an Android app.

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In comment 15779613 moze1021 said:

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Now they just need an Android app.

they also have the audio capped off if you're watching from your phone or ipad.

trash

In comment 15779614 CooperDash said:

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are you allowed to?

still don’t understand.

In comment 15779616 Rory said:

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In comment 15779614 CooperDash said: Quote: ? are you allowed to?

Is this a serious question?

In comment 15779616 Rory said:

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In comment 15779614 CooperDash said: Quote: ? are you allowed to?

Good point, I don’t know.

In comment 15779619 Snablats said:

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In comment 15779616 Rory said: Quote: In comment 15779614 CooperDash said: Quote: ? are you allowed to? Is this a serious question?

yes, its a new rule for OT now so not sure if they mandate it has to be the next guy in the lineup.

obviously I know you can pinch run in baseball dipshit

In comment 15779620 CooperDash said:

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In comment 15779616 Rory said: Quote: In comment 15779614 CooperDash said: Quote: ? are you allowed to? Good point, I don’t know.

yes but the only options are mccann or pitchers (they should use a RP).

ump.

Bad call.

Now backs to wall and need to win tomorrow.

Bad Call
Dave Robertson
Sending the runner from 3rd
Bunch of stupid mistakes.

Nido was a big part of the loss with multiple screw ups and generally being just fucking awful. And closed by their highly coveted RP that the Phillies ended up trading for instead. Without Harper and Schwarber. Stings.

Two pop flys that should have been caught, misplays by Nido and Escobar.

Defensively challenged Phils made the plays tonight

Bad send/Marte decision, Nido stops running, Marte with a bad throw home

Rory, its called extra innings, not OT

Still mad at Cora for sending Marte. Mets still had a good chance to in the game at that point. Wanted to stop these punks' momentum too in the first game so they know who they're playin. We'll have to wait for deGrominator to set 'em straight tomorrow.

In comment 15779647 Snablats said:

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Bad send/Marte decision, Nido stops running, Marte with a bad throw home Rory, its called extra innings, not OT

Sure. Thanks

In comment 15779644 Vanzetti said:

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Two pop flys that should have been caught, misplays by Nido and Escobar. Defensively challenged Phils made the plays tonight

yeah somehow amazingly the phils won the game on D. the mets did a lot to win in the bottom of the 9th just didn't go their way.

Maybe he doesn’t score anyway but he was NEVER going to score unless they threw the ball away. It was a bad throw and they STILL easily tagged him out. Cora is a bad 3B coach.

Let's see how that ends.

In comment 15779658 CooperDash said:

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Maybe he doesn’t score anyway but he was NEVER going to score unless they threw the ball away. It was a bad throw and they STILL easily tagged him out. Cora is a bad 3B coach.

Joey Rocks at 3B, lol.

In comment 15779656 Eric on Li said:

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In comment 15779644 Vanzetti said: Quote: Two pop flys that should have been caught, misplays by Nido and Escobar. Defensively challenged Phils made the plays tonight yeah somehow amazingly the phils won the game on D. the mets did a lot to win in the bottom of the 9th just didn't go their way.

Wow, you cant get anything right. It was an easy play at the plate on Marte with an offline throw. No way should he have gone

In comment 15779664 Optimus-NY said:

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In comment 15779658 CooperDash said: Quote: Maybe he doesn’t score anyway but he was NEVER going to score unless they threw the ball away. It was a bad throw and they STILL easily tagged him out. Cora is a bad 3B coach. Joey Rocks at 3B, lol.

100%..lol is the right comment .. Cora is the man. I think he made a bad call, but people aren't infallible

Terrible call. Waste of an out, junk situational baseball.

In comment 15779696 moze1021 said:

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In comment 15779664 Optimus-NY said: Quote: In comment 15779658 CooperDash said: Quote: Maybe he doesn’t score anyway but he was NEVER going to score unless they threw the ball away. It was a bad throw and they STILL easily tagged him out. Cora is a bad 3B coach. Joey Rocks at 3B, lol. 100%..lol is the right comment .. Cora is the man. I think he made a bad call, but people aren't infallible

Cora has made a bunch of head scratchers this season. A 3B coach certainly isn’t going to make or break a season but that was a moronic call.

We're 6 up now instead of 7 on those bitches. Time to turn the page on this one. Anybody here anything on Escobar (side) and Squirrel's (lacerated finger) health?

Tim Britton
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Nido on this play: "I misplayed it a little bit. I had more time than I thought.... I felt I had to go get it but I got a bad read. It ate me up a little bit."

13 G
.333 BA
.412 OBP
1.034 OPS
3 HR
10 RBI
13 K
6 BB
4 2B

3/11 with 2 2bs since returning to the lineup a few days ago.

he played 3b last night and on the season he's played 40 games there, 26 at 1b, and 13 DH. 12 total errors in 66 combined games in the field. his GB rate was an early issue (70% in april) but has steadily been coming down (now 47%). even with last night's 3k game his k-rate has been going down too (now 30%).

random but with vientos at 3b last night Baty played left field and gunned a guy out at home on a line just like that philly LFer.
Syracuse Mets @SyracuseMets We’re down 3-0 in the 7th. But let’s take a moment to appreciate the absolute cannon of @baty_brett as he cuts down a runner at the plate from LF ☄️💪 - ( New Window )

that's an impressive throw.

Imagine him, Marte and Naquin in the OF. Nobody will be taking extra bases

if he had been behind the plate last night at Citi, Mets probably win

just sayin'

In comment 15779647 Snablats said:

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Bad send/Marte decision, Nido stops running, Marte with a bad throw home Rory, its called extra innings, not OT

Marte made a good throw, Nido just whiffed on it.

and now Grissom up straight from AA as well. Both 21 years old. Conforto came up straight from AA in 2015 far less seasoned than Vientos now.

i get it if there's no opportunity and MLB guys are producing. Nobody is suggesting an open scholarship. But for 2 months he was mashing while Dom/JDD were doing literally nothing and now their 3B may go on the IL a few weeks after they acknowledged publicly they were preparing to call him up. he's had a .900+ ops for the last 3.5 months. is it so impossible that he'll come up and do better than the .660 ops Escobar has posted ytd?

i know, dont want to throw him into big games vs braves/phils, yada yada. im sure katoh's .227 ba at AAA is going to be a big help. there's not even an obvious 40 man move (sam clay?) to make room for him.

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In comment 15779647 Snablats said: Quote: Bad send/Marte decision, Nido stops running, Marte with a bad throw home Rory, its called extra innings, not OT Marte made a good throw, Nido just whiffed on it.

Nido admitted he turned it into an in-between hop with bad positioning because he thought he had less time for the tag. So the throw was better than I thought. Unfortunately I couldnt go back to see it a few times because you cant DVR Apple TV games

As I said before, Nido isnt good on plays at the plate. He can throw runners out and can frame pitches, but he isnt good blocking balls and isnt good on plays coming home

In comment 15779658 CooperDash said:

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Maybe he doesn’t score anyway but he was NEVER going to score unless they threw the ball away. It was a bad throw and they STILL easily tagged him out. Cora is a bad 3B coach.

Wow ..he might be the best 3b coach in baseball. I think he just made the mistake of not realizing that Marte has lost a step

the alec bohm sac fly that scored the game winning run traveled just 20 feet further (254 feet vs. 235 for vogelbach's). and on top of that vogelbach's batted ball was a really tough catch with a 77% likelihood of being a hit in the first place, so vierling not only needed to make a perfect throw but also had to make a low probability catch first.

their guys made a play, nido dropped the ball. that's the game. the phillies aren't known for their defense in a good way but yesterday it won them a tight 1 run game while our guys had a defensive miscue.

also if they don't send canha is up with 2 outs which is by no means a given so that's a chance you take every time with a fast runner. any small miscue or off line throw and you win as opposed to the odds of a 2 out hit (Canha is hitting .289 with 2 outs RISP, which is great, but still lose 2/3 coin flips). statistically speaking 70% of throws from the OF aren't getting marte from almost anywhere in the OF.

but it was a very short throw so Realmuto had time to get back to the plate, which again shows it was a bad play for Marte to go

you can see that at the distances both of last nights sac flies were attempted, runners are usually held however when sent they are still far more likely to score than not score. both were fast runners. one team made the play against the odds and the other didn't.

there's another section where they analyze safe rate by sprint speed, Marte is in the 76th percentile of sprint speed which would correspond to a safe rate in the 85-95% range on all sends.

obviously a shorter throw and a more aggressive send lowers that, but i still don't think the % of Marte not being safe ever gets close to the 70% chance Canha would have made out with Marte on 3rd.
Are Third Base Coaches Too Hesitant in Sacrifice Fly Situations? - ( New Window )

"The 56-year-old Cora, the older brother of Boston Red Sox manager Alex Cora, was often criticized by Pittsburgh fans for aggressively waving runners home. The Pirates ranked among the major league leaders in outs made at the plate."

There was also a more recent article, that I can't find now, about 2 weeks ago. Maybe it was in The Athletic, reiterating the same thing. And if I remember correctly, last year a number of Mets runners were thrown out at home. Does anyone else remember that? Was that Cora who sent them, or Gary Disarcina?
Pirates dismiss 3B coach Joey Cora after 5 seasons - ( New Window )

In comment 15780085 Eric on Li said:

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there's another section where they analyze safe rate by sprint speed, Marte is in the 76th percentile of sprint speed which would correspond to a safe rate in the 85-95% range on all sends. obviously a shorter throw and a more aggressive send lowers that, but i still don't think the % of Marte not being safe ever gets close to the 70% chance Canha would have made out with Marte on 3rd. Are Third Base Coaches Too Hesitant in Sacrifice Fly Situations? - ( New Window )

When you are out by that much on an offline throw, it was a bad idea to run. And no amount of fangraphs charts and analytics crap is going to change that

but i think hindsight is playing a big role in how people the decision should have been made. both teams made basically the same decision. 1 worked 1 didn't.

Andy Martino @martinonyc
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Source: Mets sign Travis Jankowski. Minor league deal

so he will try it with his cut finger

Was @ Citi last night. The extra inning rule with the dude starting on second base...lame AF. I get MLB doesn't want games going 6 hours, but that rule is so stupid.

Marte as the catch is being made.

But this loss had a lot to do with Nido’s horrible play and base running as anything else. I am so ready for the Nido “starting catcher” experience to be over. I’m confident in saying that Alvarez would be an immediate improvement from day 1. Nido is a good defensive backup and that is it. He’s a net negative.

In comment 15780138 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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Was @ Citi last night. The extra inning rule with the dude starting on second base...lame AF. I get MLB doesn't want games going 6 hours, but that rule is so stupid.

+1. This "ghost runner" rule is awful.
Part of why I disagree with the decision to send Marte, was that Cora must have know that the next inning would start with the Phillies having a runner on 2nd base, and to not take that chance. The Met still had one more out left in which to score, why play fast and loose in that situation?

In comment 15780160 Dennis said:

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In comment 15780138 SFGFNCGiantsFan said: Quote: Was @ Citi last night. The extra inning rule with the dude starting on second base...lame AF. I get MLB doesn't want games going 6 hours, but that rule is so stupid. +1. This "ghost runner" rule is awful. Part of why I disagree with the decision to send Marte, was that Cora must have know that the next inning would start with the Phillies having a runner on 2nd base, and to not take that chance. The Met still had one more out left in which to score, why play fast and loose in that situation?

That’s a really good point and I’m sure that factored into Cora’s decision to send Marte.

I’m back-and-forth on the ghost runner rule. On one hand I absolutely hate the rule because I feel that it’s a cheap way to win, but on the other hand I like it because I equally hate 16 or 18 inning games. What leans me more towards the side of not liking the rule is that 16 or 18 in a games are really pretty rare.

hindsight might be the wrong phrase because you're right, almost everyone was against the decision right when it happened.

im just saying that watching it live i thought it was a go on anything close because you have Marte's speed and you want to force the other team to make a great play. with the ghost runner in extras you just want to get the walk off while you have it after already using diaz.

every replay since i feel the same way, the philly LF just made a hell of a catch + throw. it was a difficult play with the game on the line and they made it. kind of like that crazy JDD pick at first base a few weeks ago that went our way.