For some reason it doesn't look like a tailor made ACL tear to me (yes, im on my couch talking out of my ass)..but it does not look good at all.
Jimmy G for the Jets?
Draft the top QB? I'm texting with my jet fan friends and theyre saying its not even Labor Day and talking draft is depressing....usaully its Columbus day.
Wilson injury happened on Jets' second possession. On first possession, he threw a really awful INT. Rough night for him and good news for Jets' haters.
Bad news is that Eagles' starters looked pretty good, even considering the opposition. Hurts 6-6 on his only drive, 80 yards for TD.
A "highlight" of that drive was Nick Sirianni screaming obscenities at Robert Saleh after a Jets' LB hit Hurts out of bounds, very late and very high.
Link is to Wilson injury play. Note Jordan Davis throwing Jets' center to the ground and lumbering downfield after Wilson.
Is Chao usually right on this stuff? I'm vaguely familiar with him; I don't know how reputable or accurate he's been though.
yes - i'd say about 80-90% of the time he's right.
Thanks, Eric. Obviously don't want to see anyone get hurt. Hopefully this is a 10-20% case.. if not, real tough break for the Jets.
I'm glad the Giants added Tyrod for this reason. I can't do another year of guys like Glennon or Fromm if Jones has to miss any time. It's just totally unwatchable football.
Link is to Wilson injury play. Note Jordan Davis throwing Jets' center to the ground and lumbering downfield after Wilson. twitter - ( New Window )
Seemed non-contact after a dig to cut back.
Jordan Davis had some fans here in April.
I’m one, even started a Davis thread or two…got a lot of “he’ll get gassed every other play”, and “Mekhi Becton blah blah”…that said, I do like Thibs. At this juncture.
Why? Not even the Jets themselves think they are competing for the playoffs this season. What’s the purpose of bringing JG in?
They absolutely do. The coach and gm will be on the hot seat if they stink (again), at least if Wilson was healthy.
This is simply not true. Saleh has been there all of one season and the owner loves him. He’s been very forthcoming about their expectations and the need for patience during this process
Douglas has won a total of 6 games in his first two full years. If they win 3-4 games this year there’s no way they bring him back and if you fire him you’re firing his handpicked coach too. That’s the way it works in the NFL
To lose the QB ranked right below Sam Darnold in QBR rankings ? Wilson sucked last year. Small guy with a scatter arm and happy feet. Flacco's corpse is better .
To lose the QB ranked right below Sam Darnold in QBR rankings ? Wilson sucked last year. Small guy with a scatter arm and happy feet. Flacco's corpse is better .
Douglas has won a total of 6 games in his first two full years. If they win 3-4 games this year there’s no way they bring him back and if you fire him you’re firing his handpicked coach too. That’s the way it works in the NFL
Douglas is viewed as a god by Jets fans, they think he can do no wrong..
Literally when they signed Duane Brown, my friend who is Jets fan said Joe Douglas is so smart he replaced a bad RT with a good one...conpletely ignoring that Douglas wiffed on a top 10 pick
JFC, that type of hit in a preseason game should be a major fine.
Sirianni goes nuts. And rightfully so... Cheap Shot Quincy - ( New Window )
A play like that happens multiple times a week. And the refs called the penalty. And the defender did not lead with his head. It was a late hit. And rightfully called.
You want a running QB - those are the risks that come with it. Eagles coach acted like a total baby. Swear some guys rather see two handed touch.
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Sources: #Jets believe they’ve avoided worst-case scenario with Zach Wilson’s knee. Genuine belief it’s not season-ending. MRI to confirm their feelings. The hope is that they are looking at weeks, not year. That is feeling as l leaving Philly.
Again: MRI final confirmation
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I’ve heard 2-3 weeks best case, 4-6 worst case. He will miss time. The #Jets & Zach Wilson do not believe he is missing the season.
Jets spooked after Becton, which is why they’ve taken this stance. Truly awaiting the confirmation tomorrow, but fans can go to sleep with hope
really want to see him play for a bad team and prove once and for all what he actually is as a QB.
He's a QB that got to the Super Bowl. And got to the NFC championship another year.
That's the type of QB he is. Not great but good enough on a good football team.
Why do you care what he does for another team?
You already know the answer to this question. But I’m case you don’t, I think he isn’t very good and would like to see him play for a team that also isn’t very good. It would be entertaining.
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Jets QB Zach Wilson suffered a bone bruise last night, per source. The ligaments are in good shape. More tests incoming on a potential meniscus injury to determine a timeline. @TheAthletic
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Jets’ QB Zach Wilson has a bone bruise and a meniscus tear and is expected to miss 2-4 weeks, as @BrianCoz
also reported. Wilson will undergo arthroscopic surgery to address and correct the injury. Jets consider it fortunate news.
JFC, that type of hit in a preseason game should be a major fine.
Sirianni goes nuts. And rightfully so... Cheap Shot Quincy - ( New Window )
A play like that happens multiple times a week. And the refs called the penalty. And the defender did not lead with his head. It was a late hit. And rightfully called.
You want a running QB - those are the risks that come with it. Eagles coach acted like a total baby. Swear some guys rather see two handed touch.
Uh, go watch it again. Williams clearly goes helmet to helmet with Hurts.
It's called tackle football. Not spearing football. Why you suggest people want two hand touch is just daft. Most fans like a hard-hitting game played within the rules where the helmet isn't used as a weapon.
Here's an idea. Go put a helmet on and run. And have another person with a helmet run at you; and have him hit you helmet to helmet. I look forward to your feedback.
JFC, that type of hit in a preseason game should be a major fine.
Sirianni goes nuts. And rightfully so... Cheap Shot Quincy - ( New Window )
A play like that happens multiple times a week. And the refs called the penalty. And the defender did not lead with his head. It was a late hit. And rightfully called.
You want a running QB - those are the risks that come with it. Eagles coach acted like a total baby. Swear some guys rather see two handed touch.
Uh, go watch it again. Williams clearly goes helmet to helmet with Hurts.
It's called tackle football. Not spearing football. Why you suggest people want two hand touch is just daft. Most fans like a hard-hitting game played within the rules where the helmet isn't used as a weapon.
Here's an idea. Go put a helmet on and run. And have another person with a helmet run at you; and have him hit you helmet to helmet. I look forward to your feedback.
I don't even think I've seen Jet fans defend the hit
JFC, that type of hit in a preseason game should be a major fine.
Sirianni goes nuts. And rightfully so... Cheap Shot Quincy - ( New Window )
A play like that happens multiple times a week. And the refs called the penalty. And the defender did not lead with his head. It was a late hit. And rightfully called.
You want a running QB - those are the risks that come with it. Eagles coach acted like a total baby. Swear some guys rather see two handed touch.
Uh, go watch it again. Williams clearly goes helmet to helmet with Hurts.
It's called tackle football. Not spearing football. Why you suggest people want two hand touch is just daft. Most fans like a hard-hitting game played within the rules where the helmet isn't used as a weapon.
Here's an idea. Go put a helmet on and run. And have another person with a helmet run at you; and have him hit you helmet to helmet. I look forward to your feedback.
The other angle clearly shows he led with his shoulder and forearm.
and definitely don’t think he speared. He lowered his head to make a hit, mostly caught his chest with his shoulder. I’m fine with a flag, but nothing more than that.
really want to see him play for a bad team and prove once and for all what he actually is as a QB.
He's a QB that got to the Super Bowl. And got to the NFC championship another year.
That's the type of QB he is. Not great but good enough on a good football team.
Why do you care what he does for another team?
You already know the answer to this question. But I’m case you don’t, I think he isn’t very good and would like to see him play for a team that also isn’t very good. It would be entertaining.
Mark Sanchez got pretty far too, twice.
We're talking about the least respected starting QB in the NFL. Why him of all people? Now put Dak Prescott, Kyler murray or Joe Burrow on a bad team is what would pique my interest. I wonder if Fracessa , Mike will finally get his wish and see more of mike glennon as a jet. Although that would mean he had finished a tour of playing with some of the worst teams in the NFL.
and definitely don’t think he speared. He lowered his head to make a hit, mostly caught his chest with his shoulder. I’m fine with a flag, but nothing more than that.
You don’t understand? What I’m saying is — it’s kind of weird to wish for him to go to a bad team so he can be “found out” when guess what ? He already has! No one is saying Jimmy G is like this great QB.
There are others however that could possibly be way more interesting who are possibly over hyped that your A/B QB switch tokes to bad team exercise that would be far more telling
Jimmy G for the Jets?
Draft the top QB? I'm texting with my jet fan friends and theyre saying its not even Labor Day and talking draft is depressing....usaully its Columbus day.
Proud of him....
Wilson injury happened on Jets' second possession. On first possession, he threw a really awful INT. Rough night for him and good news for Jets' haters.
Bad news is that Eagles' starters looked pretty good, even considering the opposition. Hurts 6-6 on his only drive, 80 yards for TD.
A "highlight" of that drive was Nick Sirianni screaming obscenities at Robert Saleh after a Jets' LB hit Hurts out of bounds, very late and very high.
Link is to Wilson injury play. Note Jordan Davis throwing Jets' center to the ground and lumbering downfield after Wilson.
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I echo these sentiments.
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I echo these sentiments.
you want athletes to be healthy to be able to produce. listen to yourselves!
Do you know anything about QB play?
Seemed non-contact after a dig to cut back.
Jordan Davis had some fans here in April.
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I echo these sentiments.
you want athletes to be healthy to be able to produce. listen to yourselves!
Its the Jets, One down, 21 more to go.
Crap. That’s awful if true
Under his own power.
now if it was dallas, philly or wash ?????
Under his own power.
Guys who tear their ACL's do this all the time, so it's really no proof of anything.
Not rooting for him to be hurt, obviously. Hopefully he's fine, but walking off or not being carted off is meaningless.
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I was so unimpressed with his last year. Don't buy the hype.
Do you know anything about QB play?
Probably as much as you. I wasn't impressed by what I saw. My opinion.
yes - i'd say about 80-90% of the time he's right.
My friend walked around with a torn ACL for several months before having surgery.
Yes of course I'm kidding. Not about hating the Jets, they suck and deserve it, but its never good to see a player get hurt.
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PatersonPlank I imagine you are kidding, you cant possibly be so angry
Yes of course I'm kidding. Not about hating the Jets, they suck and deserve it, but its never good to see a player get hurt.
and I'm sure there will be a bunch of 40 yr old lady's who will want to nurture him back to health
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Is Chao usually right on this stuff? I'm vaguely familiar with him; I don't know how reputable or accurate he's been though.
yes - i'd say about 80-90% of the time he's right.
Thanks, Eric. Obviously don't want to see anyone get hurt. Hopefully this is a 10-20% case.. if not, real tough break for the Jets.
I'm glad the Giants added Tyrod for this reason. I can't do another year of guys like Glennon or Fromm if Jones has to miss any time. It's just totally unwatchable football.
Apparently Flacco has been outplaying Wilson all camp
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Link is to Wilson injury play. Note Jordan Davis throwing Jets' center to the ground and lumbering downfield after Wilson. twitter - ( New Window )
Seemed non-contact after a dig to cut back.
Jordan Davis had some fans here in April.
I’m one, even started a Davis thread or two…got a lot of “he’ll get gassed every other play”, and “Mekhi Becton blah blah”…that said, I do like Thibs. At this juncture.
Why? Not even the Jets themselves think they are competing for the playoffs this season. What’s the purpose of bringing JG in?
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but Jimmy G. seems like the obvious move.
Why? Not even the Jets themselves think they are competing for the playoffs this season. What’s the purpose of bringing JG in?
They absolutely do. The coach and gm will be on the hot seat if they stink (again), at least if Wilson was healthy.
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but Jimmy G. seems like the obvious move.
Why? Not even the Jets themselves think they are competing for the playoffs this season. What’s the purpose of bringing JG in?
They absolutely do. The coach and gm will be on the hot seat if they stink (again), at least if Wilson was healthy.
This is simply not true. Saleh has been there all of one season and the owner loves him. He’s been very forthcoming about their expectations and the need for patience during this process
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lol .... what?
Did I miss something?
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Under his own power.
Guys who tear their ACL's do this all the time, so it's really no proof of anything.
Not rooting for him to be hurt, obviously. Hopefully he's fine, but walking off or not being carted off is meaningless.
+1
Oh God - when did Flacco die?
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probably wanted out of the game so he could go MILF hunting
lol .... what?
Did I miss something?
Oh yeah
jmalls - it has to go further than a t-shirt?
Douglas is viewed as a god by Jets fans, they think he can do no wrong..
Literally when they signed Duane Brown, my friend who is Jets fan said Joe Douglas is so smart he replaced a bad RT with a good one...conpletely ignoring that Douglas wiffed on a top 10 pick
That was for Paterson Plank.
There has to be more to the story than that t-shirt?
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Which is the most impressive thing any Jet has done since 1969
JFC, that type of hit in a preseason game should be a major fine.
Sirianni goes nuts. And rightfully so...
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Oh, yeah. He's the answer to their problem.
Some people..
Isn’t that when he plays good football?
Imagine quoting an ex Giants 12th string “defensive linemen” as a source
I was thinking the same thing. What would you settle for that is reasonable? two or three firsts and a couple day 2 picks?
JFC, that type of hit in a preseason game should be a major fine.
Sirianni goes nuts. And rightfully so... Cheap Shot Quincy - ( New Window )
A play like that happens multiple times a week. And the refs called the penalty. And the defender did not lead with his head. It was a late hit. And rightfully called.
You want a running QB - those are the risks that come with it. Eagles coach acted like a total baby. Swear some guys rather see two handed touch.
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For a haul of picks.
I was thinking the same thing. What would you settle for that is reasonable? two or three firsts and a couple day 2 picks?
3 way deal- Saints have to throw their first in for Shockey.
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Sources: #Jets believe they’ve avoided worst-case scenario with Zach Wilson’s knee. Genuine belief it’s not season-ending. MRI to confirm their feelings. The hope is that they are looking at weeks, not year. That is feeling as l leaving Philly.
Again: MRI final confirmation
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I’ve heard 2-3 weeks best case, 4-6 worst case. He will miss time. The #Jets & Zach Wilson do not believe he is missing the season.
Jets spooked after Becton, which is why they’ve taken this stance. Truly awaiting the confirmation tomorrow, but fans can go to sleep with hope
He's a QB that got to the Super Bowl. And got to the NFC championship another year.
That's the type of QB he is. Not great but good enough on a good football team.
Why do you care what he does for another team?
Yes the jets are so lucky. They will end up with their 3rd franchise QB since 2018 following the greats Darnold and Wilson.
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really want to see him play for a bad team and prove once and for all what he actually is as a QB.
He's a QB that got to the Super Bowl. And got to the NFC championship another year.
That's the type of QB he is. Not great but good enough on a good football team.
Why do you care what he does for another team?
You already know the answer to this question. But I’m case you don’t, I think he isn’t very good and would like to see him play for a team that also isn’t very good. It would be entertaining.
Mark Sanchez got pretty far too, twice.
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Which is the most impressive thing any Jet has done since 1969
If you haven't "tapped into" the older women field by your 20s or early 30s, I cannot take you seriously.
If you haven't "tapped into" the older women field by your 20s or early 30s, I cannot take you seriously.
I hear ya, I went there before I got my drivers license!
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probably wanted out of the game so he could go MILF hunting
lol .... what?
Did I miss something?
Yes.
Music, Maestro!
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Jets QB Zach Wilson suffered a bone bruise last night, per source. The ligaments are in good shape. More tests incoming on a potential meniscus injury to determine a timeline. @TheAthletic
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Jets’ QB Zach Wilson has a bone bruise and a meniscus tear and is expected to miss 2-4 weeks, as @BrianCoz
also reported. Wilson will undergo arthroscopic surgery to address and correct the injury. Jets consider it fortunate news.
No, Saleh said that the ACL was supposed to be intact.
See Jay's post at 1:05 a.m. of this thread.
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think Flacco is their backup QB. Yikes.
Apparently Flacco has been outplaying Wilson all camp
Yikes.
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on Hurts by Quincy Williams.
JFC, that type of hit in a preseason game should be a major fine.
Sirianni goes nuts. And rightfully so... Cheap Shot Quincy - ( New Window )
A play like that happens multiple times a week. And the refs called the penalty. And the defender did not lead with his head. It was a late hit. And rightfully called.
You want a running QB - those are the risks that come with it. Eagles coach acted like a total baby. Swear some guys rather see two handed touch.
Uh, go watch it again. Williams clearly goes helmet to helmet with Hurts.
It's called tackle football. Not spearing football. Why you suggest people want two hand touch is just daft. Most fans like a hard-hitting game played within the rules where the helmet isn't used as a weapon.
Here's an idea. Go put a helmet on and run. And have another person with a helmet run at you; and have him hit you helmet to helmet. I look forward to your feedback.
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on Hurts by Quincy Williams.
JFC, that type of hit in a preseason game should be a major fine.
Sirianni goes nuts. And rightfully so... Cheap Shot Quincy - ( New Window )
A play like that happens multiple times a week. And the refs called the penalty. And the defender did not lead with his head. It was a late hit. And rightfully called.
You want a running QB - those are the risks that come with it. Eagles coach acted like a total baby. Swear some guys rather see two handed touch.
Uh, go watch it again. Williams clearly goes helmet to helmet with Hurts.
It's called tackle football. Not spearing football. Why you suggest people want two hand touch is just daft. Most fans like a hard-hitting game played within the rules where the helmet isn't used as a weapon.
Here's an idea. Go put a helmet on and run. And have another person with a helmet run at you; and have him hit you helmet to helmet. I look forward to your feedback.
I don't even think I've seen Jet fans defend the hit
JFC, that type of hit in a preseason game should be a major fine.
Sirianni goes nuts. And rightfully so... Cheap Shot Quincy - ( New Window )
Is there a bigger pack of crybabies then the Eagles over their noodle armed midget QB? I'm angry because Minshew might start.
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What's the big deal about the banging friend's mom thing?
If you haven't "tapped into" the older women field by your 20s or early 30s, I cannot take you seriously.
I hear ya, I went there before I got my drivers license!
Nice!
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on Hurts by Quincy Williams.
JFC, that type of hit in a preseason game should be a major fine.
Sirianni goes nuts. And rightfully so... Cheap Shot Quincy - ( New Window )
A play like that happens multiple times a week. And the refs called the penalty. And the defender did not lead with his head. It was a late hit. And rightfully called.
You want a running QB - those are the risks that come with it. Eagles coach acted like a total baby. Swear some guys rather see two handed touch.
Uh, go watch it again. Williams clearly goes helmet to helmet with Hurts.
It's called tackle football. Not spearing football. Why you suggest people want two hand touch is just daft. Most fans like a hard-hitting game played within the rules where the helmet isn't used as a weapon.
Here's an idea. Go put a helmet on and run. And have another person with a helmet run at you; and have him hit you helmet to helmet. I look forward to your feedback.
The other angle clearly shows he led with his shoulder and forearm.
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really want to see him play for a bad team and prove once and for all what he actually is as a QB.
He's a QB that got to the Super Bowl. And got to the NFC championship another year.
That's the type of QB he is. Not great but good enough on a good football team.
Why do you care what he does for another team?
You already know the answer to this question. But I’m case you don’t, I think he isn’t very good and would like to see him play for a team that also isn’t very good. It would be entertaining.
Mark Sanchez got pretty far too, twice.
We're talking about the least respected starting QB in the NFL. Why him of all people? Now put Dak Prescott, Kyler murray or Joe Burrow on a bad team is what would pique my interest. I wonder if Fracessa , Mike will finally get his wish and see more of mike glennon as a jet. Although that would mean he had finished a tour of playing with some of the worst teams in the NFL.
Agree 100%
Gotta love the Glennon reference… haha
You don’t understand? What I’m saying is — it’s kind of weird to wish for him to go to a bad team so he can be “found out” when guess what ? He already has! No one is saying Jimmy G is like this great QB.
There are others however that could possibly be way more interesting who are possibly over hyped that your A/B QB switch tokes to bad team exercise that would be far more telling
Thanks ... had to be a story somewhere that went right by me as usual.
Yep. That's why I loved Scott Stevens hit. They love "the body bag game" and then when Lindros got leveled in 2000. wahhhhhhhh.