Willis played the first half of the Tennessee game on Thursday. Looking at some highlights and reading about it, it sounds like He is what they said he was. He demonstrated his ability to run with 38 yards on 5 rushes which included a seven yard touchdown run. He showed his strong arm with a 48 yard completion. The longest one so far of recorded preseason stats. (
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/stats/player/passing/nfl/preseason/all/.
On the minus side he was pulled from the game by coach Mike Vrabel for not passing the ball. This on a play that he ran for a first down after picking up like 17 yards. He supposedly held the ball long and was too quick to run. However he did walk away with an 88.1 passer rating on 6/11 passes.
He will be a fun guy to follow in the preseason and how he develops. On the depth chart I believe he is listed as the third string QB. But behind Logan Woodside I don't think that will last that long.
Good post troll.
Good post troll.
Sounds like our QB.
Preseason games are glorified scrimmages.
Nothing matters from a performance standpoint until the games count.
I loathe talking about stats from preseason. Even about our own players, much less some backup rookie QB on the Titans.
He missed his first few passes badly and was inaccurate and took a long time in the pocket.
He mad a good deep throw late in the game and showed that he can extend plays with some nice runs.
I did not come away feeling that he had a great game.
31 teams still rue the day they didn’t draft Brady in the first five rounds.
31 teams still rue the day they didn’t draft Brady in the first five rounds.
Just like we got used to you complaining about other posters before you became GNewGiants...
Be you man. It’s very riveting.
Be you man. It’s very riveting.
You’re easy pickings with these weak call-outs. Your Schlick just continues.
And no need get so upset about posts that talk about other players in the NFL...there are lots of them.
He missed his first few passes badly and was inaccurate and took a long time in the pocket.
He mad a good deep throw late in the game and showed that he can extend plays with some nice runs.
I did not come away feeling that he had a great game.
It was a mixed bag, but the off-script abilities are pretty special. I liked how Vrabel pulled Willis because Willis didn't let a route develop by taking off too early. Of course, he did get a first down on the play for a first down on a 17-yard run.
So, there is a lot of fat to trim. But if it works, there could be quite a fillet mignon there...
He couldn't have gone to a better situation. He's going to learn a ton this year.
My opinion on Willis hasn't changed an ounce. He's going to be very good starting QB in this league.
Reality is history repeats and in a couple years he is playing in the USFL. Worth a flier though round 3 seemed early.
The Baltimore UDFA QB looked good in this game from Oregon.
I don't watch a lot of CFB so I'm not that interested in the details of their progress — unless they are on the Giants. Personally, I'm much, much more interested in Roy Mbaeteka and even Sandro Platzgummer than Malik Willis, even though they aren't strong-armed QBs who can run very fast.
Reality is history repeats and in a couple years he is playing in the USFL. Worth a flier though round 3 seemed early.
The Baltimore UDFA QB looked good in this game from Oregon.
I would also preferred to poach from Tenessee rather than Josh Allen's and Mahome's coffee boys.
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is probably potential change of pace special package QB (possibly playoffs). Vrabel needs to get that team to the next level. Really good GM and since he came in they have averaged 9 wins or better 6 straight years. Mularkey had two 9-7 seasons before Vrabel. I was hoping the Giants looked at someone from that FO. They know what they are doing at the influencing position groups. Henry is one of my favorite players since Bama.
Reality is history repeats and in a couple years he is playing in the USFL. Worth a flier though round 3 seemed early.
The Baltimore UDFA QB looked good in this game from Oregon.
I would also preferred to poach from Tenessee rather than Josh Allen's and Mahome's coffee boys.
Josh Allen was nowhere near the QB he is today before his intensive work with Brian Daboll. Mike Kafka was well regarded across NFL. This isn’t a Ben McAdoo-type hire.
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About anything this kid does. I mean people were posting about him in a game thread and how we would rue the day we didn’t draft him.
31 teams still rue the day they didn’t draft Brady in the first five rounds.
Just like we got used to you complaining about other posters before you became GNewGiants...
Didn't you post a meme about hypocrisy earlier today??
Isn't it the epitome of hypocrisy to call out any dupe account when you literally spent a year on this site under a different account when you were banned? Are you that dense to not get the hypocrisy of it?
Unfortunately, this is what BBI is left with - a previously banned poster going after other posters for no reason. Pulling your shenanigans which was an impetus for me to step away has been really refreshing, not dealing with repetitive arguments from the same fucksticks daily. That you are still here after being banned and calling out others is just comical.
A clown and an Ellipsical Moron
But stick around this time, maybe you can find some more archived posts to manipulate to fit your needs. It’s been a while so you probably have the itch...
But stick around this time, maybe you can find some more archived posts to manipulate to fit your needs. It’s been a while so you probably have the itch...
LOL. Death, taxes, and buttface riding in from is sabbatical to defend the integrity of BBI.
Which reminds me -- aren't you really Jay on the Island?
I think '22 could be RT's last chance in Nashville, too. In 2023, there could be significant savings opportunities if they cut or trade him.
So, Willis's time could come sooner rather than later.
Getting a starting QB for less than 1% of the cap would be a boon for Tenn.
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to be a chucklehead by lecturing anybody about hypocrisy. Quite ponderous.
But stick around this time, maybe you can find some more archived posts to manipulate to fit your needs. It’s been a while so you probably have the itch...
LOL. Death, taxes, and buttface riding in from is sabbatical to defend the integrity of BBI.
Which reminds me -- aren't you really Jay on the Island?
He really sounds refreshed...not at all like the angry bully who used to wander these threads in between his Gettleman Fan Club meetings.
And no I am not Jay, but he must sound like me. Since Fmic used Jay’s posts to alter and throw my name on them...
Getting a starting QB for less than 1% of the cap would be a boon for Tenn.
If he can play.
The problem is he is not a staring NFL QB. The other big problem is it is incredibly difficult to keep a team together and continue to draft replacements. As good as Henry has been he has to be getting up in the wear and tear dept.
This is what I think the Giants wind of doing and in the interim they fix the primary issues the past decade exposed.
Getting a starting QB for less than 1% of the cap would be a boon for Tenn.
Boon for any team for certain.
Tannehill and even Henry could be ex-Titans fairly soon if they can't advance any further in the AFC. Some dead cap hits on the horizon but doable if they can an up and coming QB to latch onto...
Tannehill isn't under contract in 2024, his contract voids after 2023. The Titans save ~18M if he cuts after this year.
He really sounds refreshed...not at all like the angry bully who used to wander these threads in between his Gettleman Fan Club meetings.
And no I am not Jay, but he must sound like me. Since Fmic used Jay’s posts to alter and throw my name on them...
Lol Jay and Jimmy Googs!!
That stunt was one of the low points on this site. I can't believe that bozo still shows his face.
If RT is released post-6/1, the Titans save $27M.
I'm assuming they are correct.
If RT is released post-6/1, the Titans save $27M.
I'm assuming they are correct.
Titans might be able to pull off something akin to a Matt Ryan trade after this year with RH as well.
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If RT is released pre-6/1, the Titans save $17.8M.
If RT is released post-6/1, the Titans save $27M.
I'm assuming they are correct.
Titans might be able to pull off something akin to a Matt Ryan trade after this year with RH as well.
lord...RT as in Ryan Tannehill
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After 23?
Tannehill isn't under contract in 2024, his contract voids after 2023. The Titans save ~18M if he cuts after this year.
Thank you. I misread something.
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is probably potential change of pace special package QB (possibly playoffs). Vrabel needs to get that team to the next level. Really good GM and since he came in they have averaged 9 wins or better 6 straight years. Mularkey had two 9-7 seasons before Vrabel. I was hoping the Giants looked at someone from that FO. They know what they are doing at the influencing position groups. Henry is one of my favorite players since Bama.
Reality is history repeats and in a couple years he is playing in the USFL. Worth a flier though round 3 seemed early.
The Baltimore UDFA QB looked good in this game from Oregon.
I would also preferred to poach from Tenessee rather than Josh Allen's and Mahome's coffee boys.
Josh Allen was nowhere near the QB he is today before his intensive work with Brian Daboll. Mike Kafka was well regarded across NFL. This isn’t a Ben McAdoo-type hire.
Gase is another example. As is Tom Brady coaches for that matter. Otherwise I think the league was smart enough not to pluck any Manning Indy coaches...
Matt Corral went 1-9. Oofa.
Matt Corral went 1-9. Oofa.
Just making this up as you go along? You can probably count on one hand the number of BBIers who wanted to draft any QB at either 5 or 7 as it got close to the draft.
But, of course, you know that. Just looking to indirectly call out some of your favorite posters, huh...
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To draft at 5/7
Matt Corral went 1-9. Oofa.
Just making this up as you go along? You can probably count on one hand the number of BBIers who wanted to draft any QB at either 5 or 7 as it got close to the draft.
But, of course, you know that. Just looking to indirectly call out some of your favorite posters, huh...
Your obsession with me is adorable. But my memory is a pretty good one and there were plenty who wanted Corral (Terps being one of the more vocal ones) and many wanted a QB at 5 or 7, whether it was Willis or Corral. But many won’t admit to it for the sake of being wrong and how bad they misjudged the rookie QBs.
It’s ok - you can’t get them all right. Good effort though.
Adorable - ( New Window )
But you are correct on one thing, I am adorable...
You are the chucklehead I remember. That thread has nothing to do with plenty of BBIers wanting a QB at 5 or 7.
Try again, or really just stop and say uncle...
Keep up with the insults. It’s basically all you got on this forum.
But you are correct on one thing, I am adorable...
My thread showed it. Should have bet loser leaves forum. No one would have missed you.
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still absolutely wanted to pick a QB at 5 or 7 come draft day. Just because you can name 1 or 2 guys that post a lot doesn’t mean there were a lot.
But you are correct on one thing, I am adorable...
My thread showed it. Should have bet loser leaves forum. No one would have missed you.
As I said, that thread isn’t asking to pick them with our rd 1 picks. In fact, many guys caveated these remarks to specifically say not round one.
I gave you the night to find a thread close to draft day that has, per you, plenty of guys wanting to draft any QB with 5 or 7.
Try harder at that versus just calling out Bw or Terps or some of the posters that have annoyed you through the years...
Christian
Go Terps
Bw in dc
Producer
UConn (who was the only one who said he would take the risk but not all in taking one if they didn’t see it,)
There’s 5. Now go away.
Christian
Go Terps
Bw in dc
Producer
UConn (who was the only one who said he would take the risk but not all in taking one if they didn’t see it,)
There’s 5. Now go away.
All your favorites lined up nice and neat, huh? You would have more credibility by just saying Uncle...
Are you going to infer those posters wanted a QB in round 2 or later. Surely - you jest. You’re so adorable.
Add one to the list.
I know you take pride in being the site bully. But you really provide no credibility or substance here. A few May like your schtick, but bullies usually attract a few here and there. Congrats!
Are you going to infer those posters wanted a QB in round 2 or later. Surely - you jest. You’re so adorable.
Good lord. You weren’t this big of a joke the first time around.
Did you actually get worse at this?
I am sorry I inferred that you were ok with the giants taking Willis in round 1. Apologies if I misread.
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There were posters who didn’t want one in the first round but I counted at least 15 that said something along the lines of “no doubt about it…”, “easy choice”, “homerun selection…”
Are you going to infer those posters wanted a QB in round 2 or later. Surely - you jest. You’re so adorable.
Good lord. You weren’t this big of a joke the first time around.
Did you actually get worse at this?
No substance, bullying, insults.
Bingo! What’s my prize?
My apologies.
I know you take pride in being the site bully. But you really provide no credibility or substance here. A few May like your schtick, but bullies usually attract a few here and there. Congrats!
Chucklehead- there are many dozens of posters that know Jones is a waste of time so were desperate for the Giants to go with any number of QBs in the past draft. That doesn’t mean that desperation linked them to:absolutely locking in on one at 5 or 7.
Keep digging...you have more work to do.
Sincerely,
Uncle Jimmy
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No, not the first round. But if the Giants took him in the 3rd, I wouldn't have been opposed. I like him in college & I think there's a chance he could be good.
My apologies.
This is what you will basically find with your many other suspects.
But I can wait for my apology...
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I'm added to what list?
I am sorry I inferred that you were ok with the giants taking Willis in round 1. Apologies if I misread.
I hope Willis does well except when facing the Giants, but my position then is the same as it is today. I did not think any QB in this year’s draft merited a 1st Round selection. That being said, if Daboll, Kafka, and QB Coach were all unanimous that, between this year’s crop and what could potentially be available next year, someone from this draft they could mold into next great QB then I didn’t have an issue spending Day 2 pick.
Archer summed it up pretty good. He made a couple plays against third stringers. The issue will show up in prime time just like they did a Auburn imv. Instead we are talking filet mignons. Let's see how it plays out.
Teams misjudge talent at QB. Forget about Brady, who is a once in a lifetime story. Russell Wilson and Dak Prescott are great, more realistic examples.
Archer summed it up pretty good. He made a couple plays against third stringers. The issue will show up in prime time just like they did a Auburn imv. Instead we are talking filet mignons. Let's see how it plays out.
Than help him out Lines in coming up with who that was.
I wanted a QB at 5 or 7 too...until I saw who the candidates ultimately were. And then the real posts came out on what we needed to do in Rd 1.
Archer summed it up pretty good. He made a couple plays against third stringers. The issue will show up in prime time just like they did a Auburn imv. Instead we are talking filet mignons. Let's see how it plays out.
This is correct. From January thru mid April, many many "Jones sucks" people kept saying to take a QB at 5 or 7, and Willis in particular
It was only in the week of the draft, when every national and local writer kept saying the Giants werent drafting a QB and that the QBs werent going to go high, did the "Jones sucks" crowd finally move off taking a QB at 5 or 7
It is always going to be a position that fans follow the most so it is not a big deal. I mean armchair QB is around for a reason.
The only issue I take is the Giants issue the last decade has been about the deterioration and destruction of the physical nature of the franchise. OL and impact front 7 play.
When you look at Tenn. they understand this. So Willis is in a outstanding place to reach whatever potential he has. Hopefully we are talking about the Giants like Tenn. when it comes to that physical aspect soon.
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and there were a lot of posters who wanted a QB at 5 or 7. The ones who seem to post the most on QB's were leading the charge.
Archer summed it up pretty good. He made a couple plays against third stringers. The issue will show up in prime time just like they did a Auburn imv. Instead we are talking filet mignons. Let's see how it plays out.
This is correct. From January thru mid April, many many "Jones sucks" people kept saying to take a QB at 5 or 7, and Willis in particular
It was only in the week of the draft, when every national and local writer kept saying the Giants werent drafting a QB and that the QBs werent going to go high, did the "Jones sucks" crowd finally move off taking a QB at 5 or 7
The link I provided from a thread the day of the draft showed many posters still wanted to take the home run slot. There are still people who do admit they wanted a QB in the first round.
And yes snablets is correct - some backed off a QB cause ultimately they saw none being taken in the top 15 in most mocks. However - many posters still wanted a QB. Willis and Corral were the two favorites.
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and there were a lot of posters who wanted a QB at 5 or 7. The ones who seem to post the most on QB's were leading the charge.
Archer summed it up pretty good. He made a couple plays against third stringers. The issue will show up in prime time just like they did a Auburn imv. Instead we are talking filet mignons. Let's see how it plays out.
This is correct. From January thru mid April, many many "Jones sucks" people kept saying to take a QB at 5 or 7, and Willis in particular
It was only in the week of the draft, when every national and local writer kept saying the Giants werent drafting a QB and that the QBs werent going to go high, did the "Jones sucks" crowd finally move off taking a QB at 5 or 7
The link I provided from a thread the day of the draft showed many posters still wanted to take the home run slot. There are still people who do admit they wanted a QB in the first round.
And yes snablets is correct - some backed off a QB cause ultimately they saw none being taken in the top 15 in most mocks. However - many posters still wanted a QB. Willis and Corral were the two favorites.
Don’t forget the one poster who was hyping up Kenny Pickett
He's up there with the Duke Johnson and John Jerry guy.
He's up there with the Duke Johnson and John Jerry guy.
Lol those guarantees were fun to read.
It is amazing how quick QB prospects can rise & fall; in the fall of '19, Burrow was considered a fringe mid round pick. He ends up being taken #1 in the spring of '20.
Yikes! - ( New Window )
Always nice to see the members of the "Call Out Club" taking a victory lap.
In this case, it's for the '22 rookie class. Yet, no rookie from the '22 draft class has played a regular season snap yet. Strange.
Regardless, this topic on Willis came up the other night on the game thread. Same source. I have no problem saying I would have used the 5th or 7th pick to move on a QB like Willis. Despite what the market said during the draft, I still think it was worth the gamble.
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and there were a lot of posters who wanted a QB at 5 or 7. The ones who seem to post the most on QB's were leading the charge.
Archer summed it up pretty good. He made a couple plays against third stringers. The issue will show up in prime time just like they did a Auburn imv. Instead we are talking filet mignons. Let's see how it plays out.
This is correct. From January thru mid April, many many "Jones sucks" people kept saying to take a QB at 5 or 7, and Willis in particular
It was only in the week of the draft, when every national and local writer kept saying the Giants werent drafting a QB and that the QBs werent going to go high, did the "Jones sucks" crowd finally move off taking a QB at 5 or 7
The link I provided from a thread the day of the draft showed many posters still wanted to take the home run slot. There are still people who do admit they wanted a QB in the first round.
And yes snablets is correct - some backed off a QB cause ultimately they saw none being taken in the top 15 in most mocks. However - many posters still wanted a QB. Willis and Corral were the two favorites.
Yes, the lion's share backed off as it became a difficult proposition to still support.
Logic is a tough one to argue...
Or go to the movies.
If there were any good ones worth seeing...
Always nice to see the members of the "Call Out Club" taking a victory lap.
Are these members different than the ones who continually brought up DG’s failures, Barkley at 2 was a mistake and Jones isn’t a starting QB multiples times a day on multiple threads or are they new ones?
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did this thread turn into a beauty.
Always nice to see the members of the "Call Out Club" taking a victory lap.
Are these members different than the ones who continually brought up DG’s failures, Barkley at 2 was a mistake and Jones isn’t a starting QB multiples times a day on multiple threads or are they new ones?
And there it is.
One of the long-lost posters who left in disgust because his poor opinions didn't go his way, now wants to come back and give us a "what for"...
You’re obsession for me is what I can see is…. Adorable.
I thought to myself - noway the Giants should pass on Willis.
But then I remembered John Mara lamenting how the Giants had screwed Dan Jones by not putting better people around him, so the die was cast - the Giants were NOT going QB this year !
This guy's gonna be a star, and we'll kick ourselves when it happens. (Just like the Giants brass didn't listen to
Ben McAdoo when he begged them to draft Mahomes).
I thought to myself - noway the Giants should pass on Willis.
But then I remembered John Mara lamenting how the Giants had screwed Dan Jones by not putting better people around him, so the die was cast - the Giants were NOT going QB this year !
This guy's gonna be a star, and we'll kick ourselves when it happens. (Just like the Giants brass didn't listen to
Ben McAdoo when he begged them to draft Mahomes).
The Giants are nowhere near ready for a QB. Maybe next draft or the following. I liked Willis, too. But the smart move is to build the team with people likely to certainly help this year or next and not a project that could take 2 to 3 years to develop. The Titans are good now - a playoff team. Good players all over the lineup. The Giants are short DBs, OL, WRs and TE.
I didnt go through all these responses, ,but are people actually saying that the Giants made a mistake not taking Willis because of his performance the other night? SERIOUSLY? Did anyone actually watch the game? I did. He was...OK. The one BIG play should probably have been a TD with a better throw. He is a very good runner. Still has a long way to go as a thrower and as a QB in general.
I didnt go through all these responses, ,but are people actually saying that the Giants made a mistake not taking Willis because of his performance the other night?
I don't think that's quite the case yet.
But Willis is a player to keep an eye on. The Titans got first round physical skills in the third round.
Way to early to decide if they are even decent. Obviously, pro scouts thought they were sh!t best case scenario backups or projects.
The Giants have gone through it the last three years. It ain’t pretty.
Way to early to decide if they are even decent. Obviously, pro scouts thought they were sh!t best case scenario backups or projects.
Whatever string Corral played against he was way overmatched
Way to early to decide if they are even decent. Obviously, pro scouts thought they were sh!t best case scenario backups or projects.
In fairness, people that liked Willis are just saying he’s worth keeping an eye on and also in a great situation. Not a single person is claiming a couple preseason drives will guarantee anything.
I suspect if he looked terrible you’d have a thread on how bad he was with plenty stating “this is why we were smart to pass”. And I’m sure he’s going to have a bad preseason performance so it’s only a matter of time for that thread to be created.
But if Howell turns into a solid player for the Commies, that’s a big miss for Schoen given how carefully they evaluated him.
Vick had a winning record in Atl and won a couple playoff games there too.
How about people like plays being made, flashy is subjective. If my QB makes plays to win games, call it whatever you want but it’s a bad argument point. He never developed into a very good passer, that doesn’t mean he was a scrub.