Bredeson's development is encouraging. wonder if he gets some time at starting LG with Lemieux banged up.
Ezeudu is our left guard of the future, what's encouraging is how many intriguing prospects the Giants are developing at the center position. Between Gates, Feliciano, Lemieux, and now Bredeson showing potential, the Giants should be able to find/groom one that'll give them plus player production for years without having to spend an early draft pick on the position. It's two bad all four are in contract years, but signing one of them to a team-friendly three or four year extension shouldn't be problematic.
Hopefully Ezeudu is our Left Guard of the future. And likely
That miss to Johsnon is one of the areas where Jones absolutely must improve. You can see his eyes go to that side, it very much looks like the first read. He's got adequate protection and Johsnon ran the right route. When everything goes right, you have to give the WR a chance.
I am still shaking my head over this play! It was an easy 6 IMO, and yet Daniel Jones just couldn't pull the trigger. I want to know: WHY?
WHY the hesitancy? WHY? WHY? WHY?
He's reading the safety. Usually if the safety starts rolling toward the receiver then the QB throws under. The safety did start going over so thats why Jones pulled the trigger to the short pass.
So "by the book" he was right. Would another QB have thrown it in there since the safety was a little late in starting to move, sure. Its really a judgement call that the QB must make in a second, so the easy thing is "if he moves over dump it, if not throw it". A QB like Jones, in a new system and probably with some lower confidence from the past few seasons, will take the easy "correct" read. Conversely Rodgers would have drilled it in there because he saw the slow reactions of the safety.
I'm not a big fan of isolating a player and saying "see". I go by the whole game body of work. With any QB you can do this and find "gray area plays where they could have done something different, or plays where they made a mistake (even Brady). I'm sure Daboll will talk to him, but it really gets down to what Daboll wants. Does he want a QB who really take the safe reads and not make a mistake, or one that will be more aggressive and take chances. This is what Jones needs to figure out and conform to
PatersonPlank -- there's one big problem IMO. The Safety is 10-15 yards away from Collin Johnson, so if Daniel Jones is reading the Safety, well, then, he read him dead wrong. He had a huge window to get that ball into Johnson.
As for isolating this one play, I understand it is not fair and one must look at the entire body of work. However, this one play is emblematic of what is wrong with Daniel Jones' game, and I say that as one of the BBIers who is not a harsh critic of the guy. I like a lot of aspects to his game, including his arm strength, accuracy and mobility.
That miss to Johsnon is one of the areas where Jones absolutely must improve. You can see his eyes go to that side, it very much looks like the first read. He's got adequate protection and Johsnon ran the right route. When everything goes right, you have to give the WR a chance.
I am still shaking my head over this play! It was an easy 6 IMO, and yet Daniel Jones just couldn't pull the trigger. I want to know: WHY?
WHY the hesitancy? WHY? WHY? WHY?
He can't hear you (so capitalizing and repeating WHY? WHY? WHY?" isn't gonna get any more of an answer from him than your original "why?"), but maybe I can help. Perhaps Johnson wasn't the first read, but was instead the decoy with the alleged "check down" (#27 Jeremiah Hall) as the first read. So the play was designed for Jones to draw the downfield with a look in Johnson's direction before "checking down" to the RB in space (who normally would be the Barkley or Breida). It's a preseason game and we don't know what they were working on with that play (they could've been practicing Jones's ability to look in one direction before throwing in another, given that locking onto his primary receiver has been a criticism).
The point being your damning "WHY? WHY? WHY?" (which is rhetorical and presumes you already know the answer) is ill-placed and calls for... this response from Jim Mora - ( New Window )
ill just add that how often do you think Jones and Colin Johnson run plays together in practice?
$30m/year is a high bar. It’s all or nothing with starting QBs. The positional importance and cap ramifications are too significant to settle for anything less than top 10 level.
It seems like that amount of improvement is unlikely at this point. If so, we need to endure one more shitty year for the possibility of getting our QB of the future in the 2023 draft.
I hope we don’t pay him 30M per year….I’d rather draft a qb and pay his rookie salary +Tyrod Taylor’s.
The reason I say this is twofold:
1. I would be surprised if DJ wows me that much, although I hope he does
2. With all that money we save not having to pay him big bucks, we can use that money to acquire other assets not named Golladay or Solder.
That miss to Johsnon is one of the areas where Jones absolutely must improve. You can see his eyes go to that side, it very much looks like the first read. He's got adequate protection and Johsnon ran the right route. When everything goes right, you have to give the WR a chance.
A lot of what the college HC's were saying about our drafted players on the podcasts is thus far proving true. Herm Edwards was very high on Davidson and Antonio Pierce was his DC and he certainly knows the value of those interior guys.
Great news in the running game effort. I think Sy is 100% correct that a couple injuries to the wrong people on D can drastically change the outcome till better depth is assembled.
The RB depth chart could get very interesting behind Barkley. Most of us have assumed Matt Breida was a lock for #2, but his guarantees are modest and he never gets through a season healthy. Also, with a #1 like Saquon, Breida isn’t really a chance of pace. He’s just smaller.
I like the player, especially the home run speed. As complements to Barkley, though, Williams and Brightwell may be better fits.
Am I right in thinking you've been high on Corbin, FSU? But you don't mention him in your comment. I remember being impressed with his soft hands on a swing pass that he took upfield. There's a real crowd behind SB, maybe some trade value come waiver pickups time.
I think most fans were meh on the D.J. Davidson pick. McFadden is trending in the right direction. McKethan was already backing up both RG and RT before he got hurt. Belton was playing with the 1s before he got hurt.
I really liked McKethan. I am so bummed he got that injury.
I’ve rewatch that drop touchdown play over and over from that first drive. First of all he was going in slow motion - his head was never really in the route that he ran. People all over the Internet are saying that the throw is a bit low but I really think that was an incredibly catchable ball that he wasn’t prepared to make any effort for and the proof is in the pudding it went right through his hands.
MEANWHILE.
Danny Jones and our left tackle Andrew Thomas received a late hit and got rolled up on during the same play, every single play that you were on the field you should be giving 100% effort I don’t give a shit if it’s the preseason. Jones and Thomas took a shot on what should have been a fucking TD or damn near one. To me if you’re in scoring position it’s absolutely ludicrous that you can take a play off like that and then two key players pay the price for doing their part.
What a shit effort that was. God damnit it wasn’t low, it was insanely catchable. He should have to answer honestly for that effort to the press - who should be all over him. Tom coughlin would have gone nuts
Bredeson's development is encouraging. wonder if he gets some time at starting LG with Lemieux banged up.
Ezeudu is our left guard of the future, what's encouraging is how many intriguing prospects the Giants are developing at the center position. Between Gates, Feliciano, Lemieux, and now Bredeson showing potential, the Giants should be able to find/groom one that'll give them plus player production for years without having to spend an early draft pick on the position. It's two bad all four are in contract years, but signing one of them to a team-friendly three or four year extension shouldn't be problematic.
play the best guys. I'm sure Ezeudu will get the first chance but he's still a rookie. Bredeson should get some LG snaps too if Lemieux is down. Bredeson is only about 17 months older than Ezeudu.
It was nice to read that DJ Davidson stood out. He was the pick I liked the least in this years draft but hopefully he can assume the NT duties in the rotation.
It was nice to read that DJ Davidson stood out. He was the pick I liked the least in this years draft but hopefully he can assume the NT duties in the rotation.
same, he looked a lot bigger than i expected though. hopefully he's a michael pierce/brandon williams type who can do 1 thing very well.
I’ve rewatch that drop touchdown play over and over from that first drive. First of all he was going in slow motion - his head was never really in the route that he ran. People all over the Internet are saying that the throw is a bit low but I really think that was an incredibly catchable ball that he wasn’t prepared to make any effort for and the proof is in the pudding it went right through his hands.
MEANWHILE.
Danny Jones and our left tackle Andrew Thomas received a late hit and got rolled up on during the same play, every single play that you were on the field you should be giving 100% effort I don’t give a shit if it’s the preseason. Jones and Thomas took a shot on what should have been a fucking TD or damn near one. To me if you’re in scoring position it’s absolutely ludicrous that you can take a play off like that and then two key players pay the price for doing their part.
What a shit effort that was. God damnit it wasn’t low, it was insanely catchable. He should have to answer honestly for that effort to the press - who should be all over him. Tom coughlin would have gone nuts
That play is just emblematic of what Kenny G is all about.
Sy how much of Neals balance issues are correctable?
He seems like a great specimen and athlete
but i did think of your draft review when he was on the ground a couple of times and looked off balance in a few spots
I am sure some of it has to do with settling in and technique
hope a majority of it can be fixed
small sample size of course
Two things to remember
1. This is his 3rd offense in 4 years that’s tough on ANY QB
2. He has to “unlearn” the crap that Garrett and Judge did to him the last two years. He was “reasonably” decisive as a rookie. I think he will get better and miss less opportunities in time, but I don’t think it will be enough in the long run.
Two things to remember
1. This is his 3rd offense in 4 years that’s tough on ANY QB
2. He has to “unlearn” the crap that Garrett and Judge did to him the last two years. He was “reasonably” decisive as a rookie. I think he will get better and miss less opportunities in time, but I don’t think it will be enough in the long run.
Good point here. The Collin Johnson "miss" was emblematic of the Garrett/Judge philosophy - the safe, low upside play to pickup a few yards and live to see another day in the red zone. That's a throw that good QB's make more often than not but it's also a short window (time-wise) to get the ball out, he has to do it decisively because if he's a tad late the safety would be right there.
An identity going into the season. If we can have a dominant run game and a solid defense, we can win 8 or 9 games this season, and potentially challenge for a playoff spot. I’m excited to see a healthy motivated Saquon behind this line. I think he’s going to have a monster season. I don’t expect much from Daniel Jones honestly speaking. We just need him to manage the game and not make many crucial mistakes.
ColHowPepper: Corbin is a great comeback story, with intriguing tools.
I would love to see him make it eventually. At this point, he seems more likely to begin the year on the practice squad. (A UDFA rookie RB probably clears waivers without drawing much interest.) I don’t know whether there will be three true RBs on the 53 or four, excluding Hall, who might not make it either. If they carry four, Corbin has a decent chance, especially if Breida keeps getting dinged.
got it, thanks, good cover the RB landscape reply. I hope/expect to see BD and Kafka rotate these backs with different numbers of carries over the next two games to better assess differences and relative strengths. Would be useful imo to place each in pass pro situations to see what we've got there, including SB, to see if he's learned anything, got the head and stomach for it.
That play is just emblematic of what Kenny G is all about.
If I'm not mistaken, as the offense was going off the field for the FG unit after the KG drop, that was when Daboll took DJ aside and talked to him for a moment. Wonder what that advice was about. And that failed play, along with the play along the far sideline on which KG got zero separation resulting in an incompletion (on both the QB and KG?): along with similar misadventures at camp, it can't be lost on Daboll that the success rate and chemistry between those two is about nil.
Williams and Brightwell were both impressive so i agree Corbin is PS
unless there's an injury. He looked pretty good on returns but i expect Richie James to get the next shot there and probably lock that role up if they don't keep Board. The only reason to keep Board in the first place is ST even though he's not a good returner.
RE: Williams and Brightwell were both impressive so i agree Corbin is PS
unless there's an injury. He looked pretty good on returns but i expect Richie James to get the next shot there and probably lock that role up if they don't keep Board. The only reason to keep Board in the first place is ST even though he's not a good returner.
I would prefer to keep Corbin over Brigtwell because Corbin offers more on offense and he will be cheap for four years but I have a feeling that Brightwell's ST ability will give him the slight edge. Hopefully another team doesn't poach Corbin off waivers.
Breida - undrafted
Brightwell - 6th round
Williams - undrafted
Corbin - undrafted
Platz - undrafted
Low investment types who have a good mix of attributes to be productive RBs. That, to me, is the best way to manage cap dollars for this position.
We have to plan for next year with Saquon probably gone so……
We absolutely need Corbin and Williams. I still don’t think Brightwell is neeeded, but I think Williams and Corbin compliment each other nicely.
Would have liked to have sent Barkley on his way this past offseason for a Day 3 pick and used it on a RB. Maybe can still do the same thing for next Draft if we move him by trade deadline.
Either way, a rookie RB will be on the shopping list next season. As mentioned, early Day 3 would be fine...
That play is just emblematic of what Kenny G is all about.
If I'm not mistaken, as the offense was going off the field for the FG unit after the KG drop, that was when Daboll took DJ aside and talked to him for a moment. Wonder what that advice was about. And that failed play, along with the play along the far sideline on which KG got zero separation resulting in an incompletion (on both the QB and KG?): along with similar misadventures at camp, it can't be lost on Daboll that the success rate and chemistry between those two is about nil.
Probably the play where he didn't pull the trigger on the ball to Collin Johnson which was just a few plays earlier. Certainly more of a teaching moment than the Golladay play which looked to be on him and not Jones.
RE: RE: Williams and Brightwell were both impressive so i agree Corbin is PS
unless there's an injury. He looked pretty good on returns but i expect Richie James to get the next shot there and probably lock that role up if they don't keep Board. The only reason to keep Board in the first place is ST even though he's not a good returner.
I would prefer to keep Corbin over Brigtwell because Corbin offers more on offense and he will be cheap for four years but I have a feeling that Brightwell's ST ability will give him the slight edge. Hopefully another team doesn't poach Corbin off waivers.
i agree with that but it may more come down to williams vs. corbin since like you said Brightwell may have a ST role as the 3rd RB with the other 2 fighting each other to be the backup if Breida is hurt.
in the spring i figured brightwell was toast but he ran better than expected and i think it's probably not insignificant he was running ahead of williams who has more familiarity with daboll's system. all the RBs looked good for at least 1 week.
Unless injured I’m going to guess all the RBs make it to final cuts
That play is just emblematic of what Kenny G is all about.
If I'm not mistaken, as the offense was going off the field for the FG unit after the KG drop, that was when Daboll took DJ aside and talked to him for a moment. Wonder what that advice was about. And that failed play, along with the play along the far sideline on which KG got zero separation resulting in an incompletion (on both the QB and KG?): along with similar misadventures at camp, it can't be lost on Daboll that the success rate and chemistry between those two is about nil.
He said in his presser the ball was a touch lower than he would’ve liked. But god damn that’s a catchable ball
Jones - in a technical sense - so if Jones should have thrown the ball to Johnson, I would have thought Sy would have said that, even if in passing. You all maybe correct. And I will bet that if the film shows it, Kafka and Daboll will point it out to him. Good teaching moment. He can be aggressive in pre-season to see what he can get away with.
Sy also say to not be hypercritical now.
And Thanks Sy for the report. Glad we all saw what you saw with the aggressiveness of the RBs and that included Barkley. Thanks for pointing out Ezeudu had a good game. I think he will be a kick ass guard.
Remember, they are working on his technique. Part of his flaws now are caused by trying to change how he has been blocking. I am sure they are well aware of his balance issues and the new technique will work to eliminate that.
Thomas had issues too when he was drafted - believe feet and opening up too soon.
I am sure we will need to live with occasional mistakes that rookies make.
I’ve rewatch that drop touchdown play over and over from that first drive. First of all he was going in slow motion - his head was never really in the route that he ran. People all over the Internet are saying that the throw is a bit low but I really think that was an incredibly catchable ball that he wasn’t prepared to make any effort for and the proof is in the pudding it went right through his hands.
MEANWHILE.
Danny Jones and our left tackle Andrew Thomas received a late hit and got rolled up on during the same play, every single play that you were on the field you should be giving 100% effort I don’t give a shit if it’s the preseason. Jones and Thomas took a shot on what should have been a fucking TD or damn near one. To me if you’re in scoring position it’s absolutely ludicrous that you can take a play off like that and then two key players pay the price for doing their part.
What a shit effort that was. God damnit it wasn’t low, it was insanely catchable. He should have to answer honestly for that effort to the press - who should be all over him. Tom coughlin would have gone nuts
Kenny Golladay was prominently mentioned in the article.
The caliber of insight into each position (with its respective challenges and opportunities) and to the strengths and weaknesses of individual players, the economy of expression without starving nuance and feel, and grasp of the big picture are all just top notch!! For an exhibition game, no less. Precious gifts to BBI. Eric, whatever you're paying Sy' it ain't enough. (>:
think we could have some decent young cheap ILB depth
...when I said Lemieux, Bredeson, Feliciano, and Gates are all in contract years. Lemieux and Bredeson are under contract for two more years. Bredeson was a disappointment at guard last year, but maybe center is his wheelhouse. I always liked Lemieux more than most, but my guess is it's only a matter of time before Ezeudu supplants him as the starter at left guard, ergo seeing what he can do at the center position. Hard to tell if the coaches think he has a legit shot to start there or if they're grooming him to back up all three interior OL positions on game day. It helps that he and Bredeson remain bargains for two more years. And it gives the Giants leverage in any future negotiations with Feliciano and/or Gates.
Bredeson's development is encouraging. wonder if he gets some time at starting LG with Lemieux banged up.
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That miss to Johsnon is one of the areas where Jones absolutely must improve. You can see his eyes go to that side, it very much looks like the first read. He's got adequate protection and Johsnon ran the right route. When everything goes right, you have to give the WR a chance.
I am still shaking my head over this play! It was an easy 6 IMO, and yet Daniel Jones just couldn't pull the trigger. I want to know: WHY?
WHY the hesitancy? WHY? WHY? WHY?
He's reading the safety. Usually if the safety starts rolling toward the receiver then the QB throws under. The safety did start going over so thats why Jones pulled the trigger to the short pass.
So "by the book" he was right. Would another QB have thrown it in there since the safety was a little late in starting to move, sure. Its really a judgement call that the QB must make in a second, so the easy thing is "if he moves over dump it, if not throw it". A QB like Jones, in a new system and probably with some lower confidence from the past few seasons, will take the easy "correct" read. Conversely Rodgers would have drilled it in there because he saw the slow reactions of the safety.
I'm not a big fan of isolating a player and saying "see". I go by the whole game body of work. With any QB you can do this and find "gray area plays where they could have done something different, or plays where they made a mistake (even Brady). I'm sure Daboll will talk to him, but it really gets down to what Daboll wants. Does he want a QB who really take the safe reads and not make a mistake, or one that will be more aggressive and take chances. This is what Jones needs to figure out and conform to
PatersonPlank -- there's one big problem IMO. The Safety is 10-15 yards away from Collin Johnson, so if Daniel Jones is reading the Safety, well, then, he read him dead wrong. He had a huge window to get that ball into Johnson.
As for isolating this one play, I understand it is not fair and one must look at the entire body of work. However, this one play is emblematic of what is wrong with Daniel Jones' game, and I say that as one of the BBIers who is not a harsh critic of the guy. I like a lot of aspects to his game, including his arm strength, accuracy and mobility.
there is a certain hesitancy in Daniel Jones' game.
And that is a crucial issue.
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That miss to Johsnon is one of the areas where Jones absolutely must improve. You can see his eyes go to that side, it very much looks like the first read. He's got adequate protection and Johsnon ran the right route. When everything goes right, you have to give the WR a chance.
I am still shaking my head over this play! It was an easy 6 IMO, and yet Daniel Jones just couldn't pull the trigger. I want to know: WHY?
WHY the hesitancy? WHY? WHY? WHY?
He can't hear you (so capitalizing and repeating WHY? WHY? WHY?" isn't gonna get any more of an answer from him than your original "why?"), but maybe I can help. Perhaps Johnson wasn't the first read, but was instead the decoy with the alleged "check down" (#27 Jeremiah Hall) as the first read. So the play was designed for Jones to draw the downfield with a look in Johnson's direction before "checking down" to the RB in space (who normally would be the Barkley or Breida). It's a preseason game and we don't know what they were working on with that play (they could've been practicing Jones's ability to look in one direction before throwing in another, given that locking onto his primary receiver has been a criticism).
The point being your damning "WHY? WHY? WHY?" (which is rhetorical and presumes you already know the answer) is ill-placed and calls for... this response from Jim Mora - ( New Window )
ill just add that how often do you think Jones and Colin Johnson run plays together in practice?
It seems like that amount of improvement is unlikely at this point. If so, we need to endure one more shitty year for the possibility of getting our QB of the future in the 2023 draft.
I hope we don’t pay him 30M per year….I’d rather draft a qb and pay his rookie salary +Tyrod Taylor’s.
The reason I say this is twofold:
1. I would be surprised if DJ wows me that much, although I hope he does
2. With all that money we save not having to pay him big bucks, we can use that money to acquire other assets not named Golladay or Solder.
+1
Well said….
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I know it is early, but it looks like the new regime is doing a far better job of finding talent in the later rounds.
I'm amazed that we got Beavers in the 6th round. He'll see a lot of action as a rookie.
Agree….I freakin love this kid.
Great news in the running game effort. I think Sy is 100% correct that a couple injuries to the wrong people on D can drastically change the outcome till better depth is assembled.
I like the player, especially the home run speed. As complements to Barkley, though, Williams and Brightwell may be better fits.
When people are afraid to make mistakes they become risk adverse. Hence you get Jones.
I think with time he will overcome this and be better at risk taking without being careless.
Breida - undrafted
Brightwell - 6th round
Williams - undrafted
Corbin - undrafted
Platz - undrafted
Low investment types who have a good mix of attributes to be productive RBs. That, to me, is the best way to manage cap dollars for this position.
I really liked McKethan. I am so bummed he got that injury.
MEANWHILE.
Danny Jones and our left tackle Andrew Thomas received a late hit and got rolled up on during the same play, every single play that you were on the field you should be giving 100% effort I don’t give a shit if it’s the preseason. Jones and Thomas took a shot on what should have been a fucking TD or damn near one. To me if you’re in scoring position it’s absolutely ludicrous that you can take a play off like that and then two key players pay the price for doing their part.
What a shit effort that was. God damnit it wasn’t low, it was insanely catchable. He should have to answer honestly for that effort to the press - who should be all over him. Tom coughlin would have gone nuts
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Bredeson's development is encouraging. wonder if he gets some time at starting LG with Lemieux banged up.
Ezeudu is our left guard of the future, what's encouraging is how many intriguing prospects the Giants are developing at the center position. Between Gates, Feliciano, Lemieux, and now Bredeson showing potential, the Giants should be able to find/groom one that'll give them plus player production for years without having to spend an early draft pick on the position. It's two bad all four are in contract years, but signing one of them to a team-friendly three or four year extension shouldn't be problematic.
play the best guys. I'm sure Ezeudu will get the first chance but he's still a rookie. Bredeson should get some LG snaps too if Lemieux is down. Bredeson is only about 17 months older than Ezeudu.
same, he looked a lot bigger than i expected though. hopefully he's a michael pierce/brandon williams type who can do 1 thing very well.
MEANWHILE.
Danny Jones and our left tackle Andrew Thomas received a late hit and got rolled up on during the same play, every single play that you were on the field you should be giving 100% effort I don’t give a shit if it’s the preseason. Jones and Thomas took a shot on what should have been a fucking TD or damn near one. To me if you’re in scoring position it’s absolutely ludicrous that you can take a play off like that and then two key players pay the price for doing their part.
What a shit effort that was. God damnit it wasn’t low, it was insanely catchable. He should have to answer honestly for that effort to the press - who should be all over him. Tom coughlin would have gone nuts
That play is just emblematic of what Kenny G is all about.
but i did think of your draft review when he was on the ground a couple of times and looked off balance in a few spots
I am sure some of it has to do with settling in and technique
hope a majority of it can be fixed
small sample size of course
1. This is his 3rd offense in 4 years that’s tough on ANY QB
2. He has to “unlearn” the crap that Garrett and Judge did to him the last two years. He was “reasonably” decisive as a rookie. I think he will get better and miss less opportunities in time, but I don’t think it will be enough in the long run.
1. This is his 3rd offense in 4 years that’s tough on ANY QB
2. He has to “unlearn” the crap that Garrett and Judge did to him the last two years. He was “reasonably” decisive as a rookie. I think he will get better and miss less opportunities in time, but I don’t think it will be enough in the long run.
Good point here. The Collin Johnson "miss" was emblematic of the Garrett/Judge philosophy - the safe, low upside play to pickup a few yards and live to see another day in the red zone. That's a throw that good QB's make more often than not but it's also a short window (time-wise) to get the ball out, he has to do it decisively because if he's a tad late the safety would be right there.
Breida - undrafted
Brightwell - 6th round
Williams - undrafted
Corbin - undrafted
Platz - undrafted
Low investment types who have a good mix of attributes to be productive RBs. That, to me, is the best way to manage cap dollars for this position.
We have to plan for next year with Saquon probably gone so……
We absolutely need Corbin and Williams. I still don’t think Brightwell is neeeded, but I think Williams and Corbin compliment each other nicely.
If I'm not mistaken, as the offense was going off the field for the FG unit after the KG drop, that was when Daboll took DJ aside and talked to him for a moment. Wonder what that advice was about. And that failed play, along with the play along the far sideline on which KG got zero separation resulting in an incompletion (on both the QB and KG?): along with similar misadventures at camp, it can't be lost on Daboll that the success rate and chemistry between those two is about nil.
I would prefer to keep Corbin over Brigtwell because Corbin offers more on offense and he will be cheap for four years but I have a feeling that Brightwell's ST ability will give him the slight edge. Hopefully another team doesn't poach Corbin off waivers.
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behind Barkley is:
Breida - undrafted
Brightwell - 6th round
Williams - undrafted
Corbin - undrafted
Platz - undrafted
Low investment types who have a good mix of attributes to be productive RBs. That, to me, is the best way to manage cap dollars for this position.
We have to plan for next year with Saquon probably gone so……
We absolutely need Corbin and Williams. I still don’t think Brightwell is neeeded, but I think Williams and Corbin compliment each other nicely.
Would have liked to have sent Barkley on his way this past offseason for a Day 3 pick and used it on a RB. Maybe can still do the same thing for next Draft if we move him by trade deadline.
Either way, a rookie RB will be on the shopping list next season. As mentioned, early Day 3 would be fine...
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That play is just emblematic of what Kenny G is all about.
If I'm not mistaken, as the offense was going off the field for the FG unit after the KG drop, that was when Daboll took DJ aside and talked to him for a moment. Wonder what that advice was about. And that failed play, along with the play along the far sideline on which KG got zero separation resulting in an incompletion (on both the QB and KG?): along with similar misadventures at camp, it can't be lost on Daboll that the success rate and chemistry between those two is about nil.
Probably the play where he didn't pull the trigger on the ball to Collin Johnson which was just a few plays earlier. Certainly more of a teaching moment than the Golladay play which looked to be on him and not Jones.
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unless there's an injury. He looked pretty good on returns but i expect Richie James to get the next shot there and probably lock that role up if they don't keep Board. The only reason to keep Board in the first place is ST even though he's not a good returner.
I would prefer to keep Corbin over Brigtwell because Corbin offers more on offense and he will be cheap for four years but I have a feeling that Brightwell's ST ability will give him the slight edge. Hopefully another team doesn't poach Corbin off waivers.
i agree with that but it may more come down to williams vs. corbin since like you said Brightwell may have a ST role as the 3rd RB with the other 2 fighting each other to be the backup if Breida is hurt.
in the spring i figured brightwell was toast but he ran better than expected and i think it's probably not insignificant he was running ahead of williams who has more familiarity with daboll's system. all the RBs looked good for at least 1 week.
Breida, as I recall, gets I juried quite a bit, so you should want 4. I would imagine Corbin can do KR duties….not sure about PR.
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That play is just emblematic of what Kenny G is all about.
If I'm not mistaken, as the offense was going off the field for the FG unit after the KG drop, that was when Daboll took DJ aside and talked to him for a moment. Wonder what that advice was about. And that failed play, along with the play along the far sideline on which KG got zero separation resulting in an incompletion (on both the QB and KG?): along with similar misadventures at camp, it can't be lost on Daboll that the success rate and chemistry between those two is about nil.
He said in his presser the ball was a touch lower than he would’ve liked. But god damn that’s a catchable ball
When people are afraid to make mistakes they become risk adverse. Hence you get Jones.
I think with time he will overcome this and be better at risk taking without being careless.
It was instituted because Jones makes a lot of mistakes perhaps. If you let him loose, he may turn it over more than acceptable.
A capable starting NFL QB can take shots while avoiding unnecessary risk. Or at least he should be.
With time? How much time do we have left?...
Sy also say to not be hypercritical now.
And Thanks Sy for the report. Glad we all saw what you saw with the aggressiveness of the RBs and that included Barkley. Thanks for pointing out Ezeudu had a good game. I think he will be a kick ass guard.
Remember, they are working on his technique. Part of his flaws now are caused by trying to change how he has been blocking. I am sure they are well aware of his balance issues and the new technique will work to eliminate that.
Thomas had issues too when he was drafted - believe feet and opening up too soon.
I am sure we will need to live with occasional mistakes that rookies make.
MEANWHILE.
Danny Jones and our left tackle Andrew Thomas received a late hit and got rolled up on during the same play, every single play that you were on the field you should be giving 100% effort I don’t give a shit if it’s the preseason. Jones and Thomas took a shot on what should have been a fucking TD or damn near one. To me if you’re in scoring position it’s absolutely ludicrous that you can take a play off like that and then two key players pay the price for doing their part.
What a shit effort that was. God damnit it wasn’t low, it was insanely catchable. He should have to answer honestly for that effort to the press - who should be all over him. Tom coughlin would have gone nuts
Kenny Golladay was prominently mentioned in the article.
I'm not worried about Neal. I think he'll be a stud.