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#44, Gavin Heslop

5BowlsSoon : 8/13/2022 1:09 pm
Am I the only one who was impressed with his CB play on Thursday? I was watching him exclusively on many plays, and it seemed to me his coverage was very tight and he appeared confident in his body language too.

Much of what he did was man on man too, and he was covering one of their receivers who supposedly is highly touted, and kept him contained.

What did you see? Am I being too optimistic because I know we have a weakness in our secondary and I’m hoping he can fill the void? I know he went against back ups, but so did everyone else.

I’ve linked some college highlights if interested.

Let me have it……
Highlights - ( New Window )
No you are not  
Jay on the Island : 8/13/2022 1:18 pm : link
He stood out on Thursday but I am not getting excited about him yet. We have seen numerous DB's and LB's impress in a preseason game only to never flash again. I wouldn't be surprised to see Heslop receive some 1st team reps next week.
He’s battling for the 6th or 7th CB  
HopePhil and Optimistic : 8/13/2022 1:35 pm : link
If they carry that many. Adoree, Robinson, Holmes, Flott and Rodarious have more long term upside. I’m not sure I’d part ways with any of them for a vet that might be better this year but not going forward.

I guess if you want to define depth as guys to bring off the practice squad when injuries hit he’s a candidate. I hope he excels and can fill that role but I’d prefer him not taking valuable snaps from the ascending youngsters that need them more.
he looked good and he has some interesting tools  
Eric on Li : 8/13/2022 2:04 pm : link
he's one of the bigger corners on the roster and his 10 yard split is one of the fastest as well. he's got 15 pounds on both Jackson/Robinson with longer arms and basically the same 10 yard split as Jackson.

Feel  
Toth029 : 8/13/2022 2:11 pm : link
Like he gets beat less than Evans and Gilbert but those guys have been 2nd team.

Reckon Schoen will look to FA to add a corner once cuts happen.
RE: Feel  
Eric on Li : 8/13/2022 2:17 pm : link
In comment 15780017 Toth029 said:
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Like he gets beat less than Evans and Gilbert but those guys have been 2nd team.

Reckon Schoen will look to FA to add a corner once cuts happen.


agreed, from what i can tell in his entire time at stony brook he didn't have any INTs but was pretty active in terms of tackles/ff/blocked kicks. maybe get lucky and he's a keion crossen type.
Glad to see  
5BowlsSoon : 8/13/2022 2:43 pm : link
I wasn’t imagining this. And thanks for posting that Athletic score Eric. Those are impressive numbers….

He is only 25, so it’s not like he is over 30.

Anyhow, I’m hoping…..he looked much much better than Evan’s and Gilbert….and dare I say, Robinson? But I don’t want to get ahead of myself here. I also did some research on him and found a website or YouTube video of some guy very upset Heslop was cut. I hope that guy knows something that moved Schoen to acquire him.
Another thing of interest about Heslop  
5BowlsSoon : 8/13/2022 5:19 pm : link
If you look at the link, you will easily notice how good he is at blocking kicks, punt and FG. When have you seen the Giants doing that?

Secondly, there were many times you would also see him stripping the ball out of a receiver’s hand. Again, not something you see done much in NY.

The kid looks the part too…..

I guess it’s starting to sound like I have a man crush on him……lol
Frankly I thought he was awful and  
section125 : 8/13/2022 7:37 pm : link
looks bit heavy for a CB, looked a bit thick in the middle. Yes he was better than Gilbert and Evans, but that would not take much.
RE: Frankly I thought he was awful and  
5BowlsSoon : 8/13/2022 10:39 pm : link
In comment 15780197 section125 said:
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looks bit heavy for a CB, looked a bit thick in the middle. Yes he was better than Gilbert and Evans, but that would not take much.


Awful! I’m surprised by this…you must believe wide receivers were catching passes with on on them, so what specific plays are you referencing so I can go back and look at the tape again. Like I previously said, I was most of the time only watching him covering his man and looking to see how many passes were caught on him. I think I only counted one. He had no penalties against him and as best as I recollect, he wasn’t just looking at the receiver while chasing him like Robinson and Evans and Gilbert did all day.

So let me know the receiver(s) who caught a pass with Heslop covering so I can corroborate what you are saying. Thanks.
RE: RE: Frankly I thought he was awful and  
section125 : 8/13/2022 11:25 pm : link
In comment 15780287 5BowlsSoon said:
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looks bit heavy for a CB, looked a bit thick in the middle. Yes he was better than Gilbert and Evans, but that would not take much.



Awful! I’m surprised by this…you must believe wide receivers were catching passes with on on them, so what specific plays are you referencing so I can go back and look at the tape again. Like I previously said, I was most of the time only watching him covering his man and looking to see how many passes were caught on him. I think I only counted one. He had no penalties against him and as best as I recollect, he wasn’t just looking at the receiver while chasing him like Robinson and Evans and Gilbert did all day.

So let me know the receiver(s) who caught a pass with Heslop covering so I can corroborate what you are saying. Thanks.


He looked slow, heavy and behind - I actually went to the roster page to see how much he weighs. IDK why, as I watched him I was thinking he looks like a small LBer. Do you really think he can play against 1st stringers vs the 4th he was covering Thursday. Gilbert and Evans were always late. Heslop was at least in the area of his guy.

I may be too harsh, but that was what I saw. I hope I am wrong.
I think the 6th corner  
Breeze_94 : 8/14/2022 2:17 am : link
on the week 1 roster is not currently on the Giants.

Heslop is a practice squad guy at best.
Measurements  
5BowlsSoon : 8/14/2022 7:01 am : link
I believe he is 6’ 0”
Weighs almost 200 pounds (197)

I’m not concerned what I think of him as I am what coaches think, but if I can be forthright here…Will Robinson has yet to impress me. Almost every play I see of him, he is close to his man, looking at him, and having to tackle him after he makes the catch. I don’t think I have seen him one time knock down a pass while looking back at the qb.

With that in mind, yes, I am hoping any CB steps up to the plate to say, “give me the ball, Coach”
My tribute  
5BowlsSoon : 8/16/2022 10:42 pm : link
I’m really sad to read you’ve been cut. I’m surprised because a few guys who are still on the team look awful. Plus, I’m not even sure what the coaches see in Robinson. He gets beat like a drum yet is still the starter. Obviously the coaches don’t see what I saw in you. Of course, I don’t watch any of the practices so they do have more data to judge you on than me. I just have to trust they know what they are doing.

I think you can be good in this league so I’m sure some team will pick you up soon. I just hope it’s not the Eagles or cowgirls. I’ll be following your career, so always know, there is someone out there who is watching.
Guess I was  
section125 : 8/16/2022 10:51 pm : link
correct in my unprofessional assessment...
RE: Guess I was  
5BowlsSoon : 8/17/2022 7:28 am : link
In comment 15782889 section125 said:
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correct in my unprofessional assessment...


Looks like that is correct…..sigh!

And it looks like I was incorrect in my unprofessional assessment…..sigh!
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