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Sunday NYG Training Camp Updates - Sy'56 at camp today

Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/14/2022 7:34 am


Sunday, August 14, 2022

Head Coach Brian Daboll – Approx. 9:30 a.m.

Practice – 10:00 a.m. – 12:00 p.m.

Players Available – Approx. 12:10 p.m.

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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/14/2022 12:00 pm : link
Bobby Skinner
@BobbySkinner_
At some point, Giants should start calling plays dead in practice. Daniel Jones is taking a million would be sacks and then throwing the ball 2 seconds later.
Now the starting center is hurt  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/14/2022 12:01 pm : link
Art Stapleton

@art_stapleton
Giants center Jon Feliciano heading inside with training staff late in practice. Appeared to get upper body twisted up during 2-minute team period.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/14/2022 12:01 pm : link
Pat Leonard

@PLeonardNYDN
Brian Daboll pulled Jon Feliciano after a few series and now has Ben Bredeson there with Max Garcia at LG w the first team offense.

Feliciano appeared to get shaken up on the previous drive but had finished it #Giants

Jordan Raanan

@JordanRaanan
This practice alone C Jon Feliciano, OLBs Elerson Smith and Jihad Ward walked inside with apparent injuries or something.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/14/2022 12:02 pm : link
Art Stapleton

@art_stapleton
Replying to @art_stapleton
Ben Bredeson kicks to C, Max Garcia at LG

Dan Duggan

@DDuggan21
Ben Bredeson in at center replacing Jon Feliciano, who left the field with an apparent injury.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/14/2022 12:03 pm : link
Pat Leonard

@PLeonardNYDN
Darnay Holmes just made a one-handed INT of Daniel Jones in the end zone on a pass intended for Collin Johnson

Pat Leonard

@PLeonardNYDN
Replying to @PLeonardNYDN
Maybe the worst practice of camp for the #Giants first string offense.

Worse: more injuries on both sides of the ball
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/14/2022 12:04 pm : link
Dan Duggan

@DDuggan21
Just a brutal day for the Giants offense. Camp stats are what they are but I had Daniel Jones at 6-19 with two interceptions (Adoree’ Jackson, Darnay Holmes). Jones also had to scramble a handful of times because of protection issues.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/14/2022 12:07 pm : link
Tom Rock

@TomRock_Newsday
Practice ends for today. Saw three newplayers head in with new injuries or issues: Elerson Smith, Jihad Ward and Jon Feliciano. Looked like a right foot/ankle for Smith. Feliciano was having right arm looked at. Could not tell what ailed Ward.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/14/2022 12:07 pm : link
Bobby Skinner
@BobbySkinner_
Giants Final Open Training Camp thots

•So many would be sacks & DJ incompletions that followed
•Tyrod missed guys a lot today
•Quincy Roche stepped up big w/ guys out
•Darnay Holmes 1 handed INT in EZ
•Wink continues w/ a million blitzes
•Screw you guys, I’m going home
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/14/2022 12:08 pm : link
Tom Rock

@TomRock_Newsday
Replying to @TomRock_Newsday
Things were so bad they kept giving the first offense sympathy first downs just to get the periods to last longer than 3-4 snaps.

Tom Rock

@TomRock_Newsday
Best play was Davis Webb throwing a prayer into the end zone that was caught by Platzgummer. You know what they say, when in doubt throw it to Sandro!
Tons  
AcidTest : 8/14/2022 12:08 pm : link
more injuries. Great. We can't even get to the regular season remotely healthy.
This is funny...  
bw in dc : 8/14/2022 12:16 pm : link
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Things were so bad they kept giving the first offense sympathy first downs just to get the periods to last longer than 3-4 snaps.


Sympathy first downs.

It really is amazing the injury bug this team continues to deal with from one regime to the next.
If Bredeson proves  
GNewGiants : 8/14/2022 12:18 pm : link
To be a useful G or C… is all forgiven with Gettleman? Haha
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/14/2022 12:25 pm : link
Jordan Raanan

@JordanRaanan
Really rough day for #Giants offense. Completing passes was a struggle. Daniel Jones went 6-of-20 w/INT.

It’s really hard when you can’t get easy completions to a No. 1 receiver. Kenny Golladay played plenty and didn’t catch a pass on 2 targets. Kadarius Toney was out w/injury.
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90.Cal : 8/14/2022 12:25 pm : link
In comment 15780506 Eric from BBI said:
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Bobby Skinner
@BobbySkinner_
At some point, Giants should start calling plays dead in practice. Daniel Jones is taking a million would be sacks and then throwing the ball 2 seconds later.


As I've said ALL CAMP!!! Maybe some people on BBI will believe it now because Bobby Skinner said it
When the OL can't function, in this case due to injuries,  
PatersonPlank : 8/14/2022 12:26 pm : link
the whole offense goes in the tank
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/14/2022 12:27 pm : link
In comment 15780536 90.Cal said:
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Bobby Skinner
@BobbySkinner_
At some point, Giants should start calling plays dead in practice. Daniel Jones is taking a million would be sacks and then throwing the ball 2 seconds later.



As I've said ALL CAMP!!! Maybe some people on BBI will believe it now because Bobby Skinner said it


Relax. This has been posted by reporters since camp started. The head coach has also commented on it and why they allow it.
So I shouldn't be encouraged by  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/14/2022 12:27 pm : link
today's practice?
I think  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/14/2022 12:28 pm : link
Schoen and Daboll are finding out they don't have TOUGH and DEPENDABLE on this team. Sad.
Could it be that  
Dave on the UWS : 8/14/2022 12:29 pm : link
These guys are so unused to contact that once the pass come on, the injuries mount? Just wondering.
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GNewGiants : 8/14/2022 12:32 pm : link
In comment 15780536 90.Cal said:
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Bobby Skinner
@BobbySkinner_
At some point, Giants should start calling plays dead in practice. Daniel Jones is taking a million would be sacks and then throwing the ball 2 seconds later.



As I've said ALL CAMP!!! Maybe some people on BBI will believe it now because Bobby Skinner said it


Every bear reporter has said they are unblocked defenders. Did you say this all camp?
RE: Could it be that  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/14/2022 12:32 pm : link
In comment 15780542 Dave on the UWS said:
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These guys are so unused to contact that once the pass come on, the injuries mount? Just wondering.


That argument has been made from time to time, including by older vets.
Daniel Jones is an interception machine!!!  
90.Cal : 8/14/2022 12:32 pm : link
He just went 6 for 19 on his passes in practice AND 3 of those 6 completions would have easily been sacks in a real game maybe even more than 3 of the 6...

Time to panic! Daniel Jones fucking sucks right now! Face it!

Please don't act surprised when this team (offense in particular) sucks this year, starting with Daniel Jones.

What an AWFUL camp he's had throwing the football. I'm just glad Schoen and Daboll are seeing this bullshit now, there is NO WAY IN HELL, that the 2 of them aren't ready to find a new QB next year when we can afford one.
90. Cal.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/14/2022 12:33 pm : link
No DJ fan here, but did he sleep with your lady or something? A lot of vitriol.
Just left practice  
AnnapolisMike : 8/14/2022 12:33 pm : link
Ugly day for the offense. None of the QBs looked good at all. Only bright spot was Barkley. Guess that means the D had a nice day. Injuries will kill the giants as usual.
Reporters said all the QBs sucked, WR's too  
PatersonPlank : 8/14/2022 12:35 pm : link
maybe, just maybe, the decimated OL had something to do with it? Some people automatically go to Jones sucks
Watched Daniel throw live about 7 times this summer  
90.Cal : 8/14/2022 12:37 pm : link
AND holy fucking shit get this guy out of town. Zero development. He's not getting better its actually falling all apart.

Yeah the OL sucked today. But Daniel's quick passing game is awful, Tyrod is light years ahead of him as far as getting the ball out quick, decisive, quick release, good zip and placement on those short passes... all things Daniel doesn't do IMO.
More injuries?  
The_Boss : 8/14/2022 12:38 pm : link
Check the grass..maybe there’s a gopher under there digging holes and causing the turf to not be level?
RE: 90. Cal.  
90.Cal : 8/14/2022 12:38 pm : link
In comment 15780548 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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No DJ fan here, but did he sleep with your lady or something? A lot of vitriol.


Dude it's the truth, he fucking sucks man. He has looked awful in 6 of 7 practices... not bad... AWFUL
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rich in DC : 8/14/2022 12:39 pm : link
In comment 15780521 AcidTest said:
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more injuries. Great. We can't even get to the regular season remotely healthy.


I think people panic at the word injury these days. However, you have to separate them into two separate categories, remembering that this is training camp.

The first category is where you have injuries that will cause a player to miss games regardless of what time of the season it is. We put Miller, McKethon, Belton and probably Lemiuex into that group. We also add in guys who were injured last year and still are on rehab to this group- Gates, Shepard and Peart.

The second category is where the team isn’t punching someone to get back on the field because it is training camp- but if this were the regular season, would probably be a game time decision. We can put players both Williams, Ezeudu, Toney, Flott, Martinez and a few others.

I should probably say that there’s really a third category too- guys who are injured who appear not to have long term injuries and won’t make the team. Guys like Proehl, Douglass, Sills, Slayton and maybe Seals-Jones.

IMO, the first group are worrisome- but that’s part of the game. Every team deals with those.

The other two aren’t as worrisome, as the second group tends to have the majority to those guys suit up on game day- and the third group doesn’t matter after cutdowns.
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The_Boss : 8/14/2022 12:40 pm : link
In comment 15780561 90.Cal said:
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No DJ fan here, but did he sleep with your lady or something? A lot of vitriol.



Dude it's the truth, he fucking sucks man. He has looked awful in 6 of 7 practices... not bad... AWFUL


Maybe it’s by design. Daboll asking him to look like ass on purpose? Throw everybody off..then come week 1, look like Josh Allen..
RE: Reporters said all the QBs sucked, WR's too  
90.Cal : 8/14/2022 12:42 pm : link
In comment 15780551 PatersonPlank said:
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maybe, just maybe, the decimated OL had something to do with it? Some people automatically go to Jones sucks


Man... if you want to make excus3s for DJ for another 3/4 years then go right ahead... the new coaching staff, the coaching change, the scheme, the scheme change, the WRs, the OL, blame the defense... just pile on and pile on

End of the day Daniel Jones can't throw the fucking football or play the QB position the way we need him to in order to win games.

But if you want to blame the OL this practice I'd be okay with that... but he has stunk it up pretty much all camp
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/14/2022 12:43 pm : link
Dan Duggan

@DDuggan21
Replying to @DDuggan21
Players on the side: RB Matt Breida (?), WR Kadarius Toney (leg/knee), WR Austin Proehl (leg/calf), TE Andre Miller (forearm), OL Josh Ezeudu (?), DL Leonard Williams (?), DL Justin Ellis (?), CB Cor’Dale Flott (groin), CB Rodarius Williams (?), and S Dane Belton (collarbone).
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/14/2022 12:43 pm : link
Art Stapleton

@art_stapleton
Saquon Barkley continues to run hard. Popped a nifty long scamper behind right tackle Evan Neal, who pulled across the formation and created a crease.
Neal had a couple nice blocks today, including one when he cleared Quincy Roche on a rush near the back of the pocket.
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90.Cal : 8/14/2022 12:43 pm : link
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No DJ fan here, but did he sleep with your lady or something? A lot of vitriol.



Dude it's the truth, he fucking sucks man. He has looked awful in 6 of 7 practices... not bad... AWFUL



Maybe it’s by design. Daboll asking him to look like ass on purpose? Throw everybody off..then come week 1, look like Josh Allen..


Josh Allen had a stronger arm in middle school than Daniel Jones has right now.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/14/2022 12:43 pm : link
Art Stapleton

@art_stapleton
Giants offense wasn't great today. Passing game was a grind and completions were hard to find. Kenny Golladay has very little presence right now, and first-team WR for Daniel Jones were Golladay, Collin Johnson and Richie James.

Kadarius Toney out rehabbing unspecified injury.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/14/2022 12:44 pm : link
Art Stapleton

@art_stapleton
Rookie Wan'Dale Robinson is practicing, but after getting a ton of reps and targets over the first week and a half, his volume has been down.

My guess: they've seen enough and are now about fine-tuning those plays in walkthroughs and keeping them under wraps. #Giants
It’s amazing how  
GNewGiants : 8/14/2022 12:45 pm : link
When the beat reporters have continually said…

- WRs don’t get open
- OL can’t block
- Unblocked blitzer time and time again.

And the summation is Daniel Jones is holding the offense back because someone attended a few practices with a biased opinion. Gonna be a fun year here.

And by the way 90.cal - many here aren’t Jones fans so please stop acting like everyone is.
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The_Boss : 8/14/2022 12:45 pm : link
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No DJ fan here, but did he sleep with your lady or something? A lot of vitriol.



Dude it's the truth, he fucking sucks man. He has looked awful in 6 of 7 practices... not bad... AWFUL



Maybe it’s by design. Daboll asking him to look like ass on purpose? Throw everybody off..then come week 1, look like Josh Allen..



Josh Allen had a stronger arm in middle school than Daniel Jones has right now.


😆😆

Probably.

You know I was joking right? Jones is garbage.
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90.Cal : 8/14/2022 12:50 pm : link
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No DJ fan here, but did he sleep with your lady or something? A lot of vitriol.



Dude it's the truth, he fucking sucks man. He has looked awful in 6 of 7 practices... not bad... AWFUL



Maybe it’s by design. Daboll asking him to look like ass on purpose? Throw everybody off..then come week 1, look like Josh Allen..



Josh Allen had a stronger arm in middle school than Daniel Jones has right now.



😆😆

Probably.

You know I was joking right? Jones is garbage.


Lol yes of course... but someone here on BBI will probably make that argument later on and they will not be joking, they'll be dead serious.

Today without Toney, and every time Toney doesn't practice... this offense is sooooo one dimensional... imagine the offense hinging on an unproven OL, injury prone/un proven Kadarius Toney and garbage ass Daniel Jones... we are going to suck this year. It's starting to become clear. I hope I am way off but I've watched alot of camp this year and it looks really really bad. That's it for me today, I'm sure a few people are going to be upset but I gotta call it like I see it and I wish I wasn't seeing Jones stink it up like this.
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PatersonPlank : 8/14/2022 12:54 pm : link
In comment 15780564 90.Cal said:
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maybe, just maybe, the decimated OL had something to do with it? Some people automatically go to Jones sucks



Man... if you want to make excus3s for DJ for another 3/4 years then go right ahead... the new coaching staff, the coaching change, the scheme, the scheme change, the WRs, the OL, blame the defense... just pile on and pile on

End of the day Daniel Jones can't throw the fucking football or play the QB position the way we need him to in order to win games.

But if you want to blame the OL this practice I'd be okay with that... but he has stunk it up pretty much all camp


There isn't a poster here who didn't realize a year ago that Jones was a huge question mark. You make it sound like its a new revelation and you are leading the way, except you're about a season behind. The difference is we don't scream after every stupid practice about Jones, and know we have to live with him this year.

You should really learn more about football before you post anymore. There are 11 guys out there, not just Jones. Also, by the way, I thought Jones looked fairly good in a "real" game on Thursday. That carries a lot more weight than a practice with everyone hurt
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90.Cal : 8/14/2022 12:54 pm : link
In comment 15780574 GNewGiants said:
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When the beat reporters have continually said…

- WRs don’t get open
- OL can’t block
- Unblocked blitzer time and time again.

And the summation is Daniel Jones is holding the offense back because someone attended a few practices with a biased opinion. Gonna be a fun year here.

And by the way 90.cal - many here aren’t Jones fans so please stop acting like everyone is.


Well just believe the beat reporters then and all the media sources that ever take their word for it... or just go and see for yourself next time and have your own opinion.

Which one of them said "Daniel Jones looks like the real deal..." and forgive me if I won't hold my breathe for you to look for that one...

I LOVED DJ coming out of Duke... I am not biased against him... I'm just not making excuses for him anymore like half of this website apparently is still doing.
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90.Cal : 8/14/2022 12:56 pm : link
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maybe, just maybe, the decimated OL had something to do with it? Some people automatically go to Jones sucks



Man... if you want to make excus3s for DJ for another 3/4 years then go right ahead... the new coaching staff, the coaching change, the scheme, the scheme change, the WRs, the OL, blame the defense... just pile on and pile on

End of the day Daniel Jones can't throw the fucking football or play the QB position the way we need him to in order to win games.

But if you want to blame the OL this practice I'd be okay with that... but he has stunk it up pretty much all camp



There isn't a poster here who didn't realize a year ago that Jones was a huge question mark. You make it sound like its a new revelation and you are leading the way, except you're about a season behind. The difference is we don't scream after every stupid practice about Jones, and know we have to live with him this year.

You should really learn more about football before you post anymore. There are 11 guys out there, not just Jones. Also, by the way, I thought Jones looked fairly good in a "real" game on Thursday. That carries a lot more weight than a practice with everyone hurt


Ok fair point...

& you clearly should learn more about football if you think a "real game" took place last Thursday, the first week of August, against the Pats 2nd team. Just saying.
The new revelation is...  
90.Cal : 8/14/2022 12:57 pm : link
Daniel Jones has gotten WORSE...
Half the website?  
GNewGiants : 8/14/2022 12:58 pm : link
Really?

You know excuses tend to be made up narratives.

A poor, banged up OL
Bad Receivers

Those aren’t excuses. They are pretty much facts. A concept some can’t grasp… we are gonna probably have a bad QB, bad WRs and an inconsistent OL. Blaming it all one one group or person is not telling the whole story.
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Giantfan in skinland : 8/14/2022 12:59 pm : link
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No DJ fan here, but did he sleep with your lady or something? A lot of vitriol.



Dude it's the truth, he fucking sucks man. He has looked awful in 6 of 7 practices... not bad... AWFUL



Maybe it’s by design. Daboll asking him to look like ass on purpose? Throw everybody off..then come week 1, look like Josh Allen..



Josh Allen had a stronger arm in middle school than Daniel Jones has right now.



😆😆

Probably.

You know I was joking right? Jones is garbage.



Lol yes of course... but someone here on BBI will probably make that argument later on and they will not be joking, they'll be dead serious.

Today without Toney, and every time Toney doesn't practice... this offense is sooooo one dimensional... imagine the offense hinging on an unproven OL, injury prone/un proven Kadarius Toney and garbage ass Daniel Jones... we are going to suck this year. It's starting to become clear. I hope I am way off but I've watched alot of camp this year and it looks really really bad. That's it for me today, I'm sure a few people are going to be upset but I gotta call it like I see it and I wish I wasn't seeing Jones stink it up like this.


Of course we're going to suck this year. Are there people who really thought otherwise? We've got quite a few rookies slated to be starters/key role players. We've got a rebuilt OL. We're still unwinding Gettleman's horrendously constructed roster. This is going to be a bad team.

The only thing that's questionable is whether we see signs that the new regime has turned the tide. This will be a process and the early returns are unlikley to be pretty. All I'm hoping for by the end of the year is that I don't dread turning on the Giants game every week. If they can get football back to being somewhat fun, that will be a major accomplishment for 2022.
I remember when Giants fans  
bluesince56 : 8/14/2022 1:13 pm : link
said Phil Simms sucks, not a pro QB. What were the Giants thinking drafting him. Maybe Jones sucks too. However, Simms didn’t have three HC, numerous Offensive Coordinators and OL. Let’s play out the year. Then we will know for sure.
RE: RE: Reporters said all the QBs sucked, WR's too  
John In CO : 8/14/2022 1:23 pm : link
In comment 15780564 90.Cal said:
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maybe, just maybe, the decimated OL had something to do with it? Some people automatically go to Jones sucks



Man... if you want to make excus3s for DJ for another 3/4 years then go right ahead... the new coaching staff, the coaching change, the scheme, the scheme change, the WRs, the OL, blame the defense... just pile on and pile on

End of the day Daniel Jones can't throw the fucking football or play the QB position the way we need him to in order to win games.

But if you want to blame the OL this practice I'd be okay with that... but he has stunk it up pretty much all camp


JFC......WHAT DO YOU WANT THEM TO DO ABOUT IT TODAY????? STOP F'ING RANTING!!!!!! I dont think anyone is saying that they want to hang on to Jones for another 3/4 years. But replacing him NOW based on PRACTICE would be utterly stupid. Lets see how he does, you know, in the actual GAMES that count! He will probably stink. I hope he doesnt but at this point, I kind of expect it. And when next offseasons comes he will be replaced.
PattersonPlank  
90.Cal : 8/14/2022 1:34 pm : link
Just exactly how good do you think Daniel Jones looked last Thursday?

https://twitter.com/nickfalato/status/1558521914439745536?s=20&t=muOg-qqGfUecWrv_r8QEyA
RE: PattersonPlank  
GNewGiants : 8/14/2022 1:45 pm : link
In comment 15780612 90.Cal said:
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Just exactly how good do you think Daniel Jones looked last Thursday?

https://twitter.com/nickfalato/status/1558521914439745536?s=20&t=muOg-qqGfUecWrv_r8QEyA


Bad on that play.

Now critique the other ones to be fair.
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Jimmy Googs : 8/14/2022 1:51 pm : link
In comment 15780512 Eric from BBI said:
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Dan Duggan

@DDuggan21
Just a brutal day for the Giants offense. Camp stats are what they are but I had Daniel Jones at 6-19 with two interceptions (Adoree’ Jackson, Darnay Holmes). Jones also had to scramble a handful of times because of protection issues.


I could swear "brutal" has been used almost every few days by reporters describing this Jones-led Offense...
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