I was hammering the point that no matter what they added this offseaseason, this is still a 4-5 win team because they have ZERO meaningful depth at many positions. If anything, I think after seeing this team, I am concerned that my 4-5 win team might be optimistic.
The starting defense and starting OL are much improved, but there is literally nothing behind most of them- and we are already seeing the standard injuries that come with playing football (and have nothing to do with the trainers that the simple like to moan about).
By week 8, I think that the tank will be on because the injuries will have mounted to a point of no return- which happens with every team- only because of the cap situation, this team has NO depth unlike others that just plug in the next guy up.
This team is going in the right direction, but the cap and lack of ability to add depots means that this is going to be a year where they are simply deciding who is part of the future teams and who needs to be cut at the end of the season- and nothing more meaningful than that.
Is it the playcalling? The talent level? The execution?
Because as the king of wishful thinking, I'm hoping that Daboll taking full reins of the offensive playcalling would solve at least some of the issues.
Though in DJ and Golladay's cases, they seem to be lost causes.
needs to go. His expiration date clearly ended 12/31/2000.
Let's eat the money and move on. Trade him for anything.
If a team with an offense as inept as the Giants think he’s cooked, what makes you think anyone else is going to be willing to pay him over $13M this season (even after the bonus money gets amortized, the base pay is VERY high and that’s what gets traded)?
There is NO team in the league that will trade for him. They’ll just wait for the Giants to cut and and grab him for a song then.
Besides, with the cap hit and the Giants lack of cap space, they realistically can’t cut him until the off-season.
needs to go. His expiration date clearly ended 12/31/2000.
Let's eat the money and move on. Trade him for anything.
No one is giving anything for Golladay at his $17m trade cap cost. However, I was wondering if someone would take him if we paid half (?) his salary this year. We’d still gain $8m in cap space and get him off the books for next year.
-Aaron Robinson was tested several times on corner fade passes to Kenny Golladay. The second-year corner from UCF won every single one. While Golladay + Jones may not be the best metric to measure against, he got the job done with great techniques and ball location. Golladay did not come down with any of the targets thrown his way. Robinson was tested physically via positioning more than athletically down the field. The thing I look for here is timing and accuracy. Timing to get after the ball at the right moment, accuracy with his hands to get the ball and avoid penalties. He passed his tests there over and over.
As did the Pats' DBs on Golladay. I made that point in game thread and Sy's review thread: Jones' issues aside, Golladay makes Robinson look like an All Pro.
On Jones, jeez, some of the reports, including this one of Sy's, make you wonder if he makes it through camp as starter. Worrisome, for him and the club, to say the least. He's got to be pressing big time and it seems he's not handling it well.
needs to go. His expiration date clearly ended 12/31/2000.
Let's eat the money and move on. Trade him for anything.
No one is giving anything for Golladay at his $17m trade cap cost. However, I was wondering if someone would take him if we paid half (?) his salary this year. We’d still gain $8m in cap space and get him off the books for next year.
Missing the point- a guy who can’t get separation against 2nd team DBs from the Pats or even the Giants DBs and won’t compete for 50-50 balls (see the dropped TD in the Pats game) isn’t someone ANY team would be willing to pay more than a minimum salary without guaranteed money to.
The problem with Golloday’s contract is that the full $17.5 he’s due in roster bonuses, salary and workout bonuses are FULLY GUARANTEED. Doesn’t matter what they do- he gets paid ALL of it.
The Giants would have to eat literally the entire amount to trade him- and they have less than $5M in cap space. How do you propose that they make up the difference between the $13M base salary and the less than $5M in cap space to make a trade work? Realistically- you can’t
-Aaron Robinson was tested several times on corner fade passes to Kenny Golladay. The second-year corner from UCF won every single one. While Golladay + Jones may not be the best metric to measure against, he got the job done with great techniques and ball location. Golladay did not come down with any of the targets thrown his way. Robinson was tested physically via positioning more than athletically down the field. The thing I look for here is timing and accuracy. Timing to get after the ball at the right moment, accuracy with his hands to get the ball and avoid penalties. He passed his tests there over and over.
As did the Pats' DBs on Golladay. I made that point in game thread and Sy's review thread: Jones' issues aside, Golladay makes Robinson look like an All Pro.
On Jones, jeez, some of the reports, including this one of Sy's, make you wonder if he makes it through camp as starter. Worrisome, for him and the club, to say the least. He's got to be pressing big time and it seems he's not handling it well.
There is absolutely no reason, besides injury, for Jones not to be starting. Taylor isn’t the future and he’s not a 10-win QB. They have to let Jones sink or swim.
-Aaron Robinson was tested several times on corner fade passes to Kenny Golladay. The second-year corner from UCF won every single one. While Golladay + Jones may not be the best metric to measure against, he got the job done with great techniques and ball location. Golladay did not come down with any of the targets thrown his way. Robinson was tested physically via positioning more than athletically down the field. The thing I look for here is timing and accuracy. Timing to get after the ball at the right moment, accuracy with his hands to get the ball and avoid penalties. He passed his tests there over and over.
As did the Pats' DBs on Golladay. I made that point in game thread and Sy's review thread: Jones' issues aside, Golladay makes Robinson look like an All Pro.
On Jones, jeez, some of the reports, including this one of Sy's, make you wonder if he makes it through camp as starter. Worrisome, for him and the club, to say the least. He's got to be pressing big time and it seems he's not handling it well.
There is absolutely no reason, besides injury, for Jones not to be starting. Taylor isn’t the future and he’s not a 10-win QB. They have to let Jones sink or swim.
Bullshit. If Jones is completely incompetent, why should he just get to start? These coaches and players want to win games. Fans can hope and pray for losses if you’d like but coaches and players don’t give a damn about a draft pick 8 months from now. They are coaching and playing for their jobs.
The Jones scholarship is over. If the coaches feel he gives them the best chance to win, fine. If not, Taylor should play. Jones hasn’t earned shit.
This is where Mara really fucked up. And I kept yelling about it. Just stupid, stupid, stupid decision by Mara.
It sums up Mara’s MO here perfectly. He refuses to admit his mistakes and hurt his ego until it’s too late…only to take a bigger blow to his ego and embarrass him further. Didn’t he want to give Judge another year too?! It’s unreal
Pretty sure Gettleman outbid himself for Golladay too sigh.
A. Jackson was the player who really stood out on defense.
On offense, DJ just does not look comfortable. In fact, the other two QBs look extremely comfortable (maybe not surprising). I'll note it appeared DJ was only playing against the first team.
I am amazed that DJ can still not master the fade. On one to Golladay, the throw was rather good (and back shoulder) but with no separation the corner was able to defend it. My immediate reaction was it should have been throw higher to allow Golladay to use his wing span and high point it.
Later in practice, DJ was throwing it higher but too high, out of the receiver's (could not see who it was) reach. Again, he's throwing it, IMO, too much on a line and with not enough arch.
Barkley looked extremely fast - there's no tackling but he looks almost back to his original form which shouldn't be surprising after a year.
The other thing I noticed was during what I believe was a 2 minute drill, the HC, DC, and a few others were on the headset simulating a game. Had not seen that before.
This is where Mara really fucked up. And I kept yelling about it. Just stupid, stupid, stupid decision by Mara.
It really appears that Golladay needs to be paired a QB who will bury the throw into tight coverage (see Stafford) and allow him to make the contested catch.
Ever since he arrived, Golladay has not impressed spring and summer practices, and in preseason and regular season games.
Not sure what happened to him, but he doesn't look like the same receiver.
The $72 million may have made him less passionate about the game.
Well that's true, his effort seems to certainly be lacking.
But watch his highlights in DET, he never got separation. He was making catches with DBs all over him, and being VERY physical with the ball thrown in a tight spot including a ton over the middle.
Comparing Stafford's ability to whip it compared to DJ is not really a thing lol
in fact here's my first impression on watching Golladay's...
needs to go. His expiration date clearly ended 12/31/2000.
Let's eat the money and move on. Trade him for anything.
If a team with an offense as inept as the Giants think he’s cooked, what makes you think anyone else is going to be willing to pay him over $13M this season (even after the bonus money gets amortized, the base pay is VERY high and that’s what gets traded)?
There is NO team in the league that will trade for him. They’ll just wait for the Giants to cut and and grab him for a song then.
Besides, with the cap hit and the Giants lack of cap space, they realistically can’t cut him until the off-season.
I don't know if the market would be non-existent, but it's probably narrow. I could see Denver having some interest since Patrick went down.
Again, I'll take anything for the guy. And it would save us $13M+ since it would be a post 6/1 trade.
touch the ball on about 80% of the offensive plays. Runs, short passes, wildcat, etc.
Reports like this make me think there is some juice to the Jimmy G reports. Please note I am not a fan of Jimmy nor do I think he is that good. However if Schoen/Daboll think that once the WR's and OL gets healthy we have enough to compete, they just may pull the trigger if they think the missing piece is Jones
being an owner who signs the checks for all these wasted signing bonuses that Gettleman ran up.
It doesn't matter because in the NFL, you can be dogshit Business owners without it truly affecting the bottom line. It's not just impossible to lose money, it's impossible to not makes scores of millions.
I know it is a minor thing to some, but DG being allowed to parade around the field prior to season finale/allowed to 'retire' instead of being canned still doesn't sit well with me. Worst hire in Giants history, even worse than Ray.
Tyrod Taylor is not winning any more games than Daniel Jones as a starter. He is a known commodity, 10 years in the League, playing for multiple teams. There is no future in Taylor, besides maybe he is the Week 1 starter in 2023 until the rookie QB inevitably wins the job from him.
It’s looking pretty obvious which way the wind in blowing on Jones, but there is still a chance he could be the guy. So they need to learn something about him by letting him play. There is nothing to learn about Taylor.
I know it is a minor thing to some, but DG being allowed to parade around the field prior to season finale/allowed to 'retire' instead of being canned still doesn't sit well with me. Worst hire in Giants history, even worse than Ray.
I think Mara was very sensitive to Gettleman's cancer ordeal. And wanted him to depart with some dignity.
In fact, I believe the cancer scare allowed Gettleman to complete his contract.
Look, Jones can still salvage Gettleman's legacy if he can deliver. The odds seem Powerball long at this point, but there is still a chance... ;)
Yeah, that's the thing about keeping a bad GM past his expiration date with the expectation of improvement: because he's a bad GM, his idea to improve the team is likely to be a bad one.
-Aaron Robinson was tested several times on corner fade passes to Kenny Golladay. The second-year corner from UCF won every single one. While Golladay + Jones may not be the best metric to measure against, he got the job done with great techniques and ball location. Golladay did not come down with any of the targets thrown his way. Robinson was tested physically via positioning more than athletically down the field. The thing I look for here is timing and accuracy. Timing to get after the ball at the right moment, accuracy with his hands to get the ball and avoid penalties. He passed his tests there over and over.
As did the Pats' DBs on Golladay. I made that point in game thread and Sy's review thread: Jones' issues aside, Golladay makes Robinson look like an All Pro.
On Jones, jeez, some of the reports, including this one of Sy's, make you wonder if he makes it through camp as starter. Worrisome, for him and the club, to say the least. He's got to be pressing big time and it seems he's not handling it well.
There is absolutely no reason, besides injury, for Jones not to be starting. Taylor isn’t the future and he’s not a 10-win QB. They have to let Jones sink or swim.
I don't understand this view at all. I much prefer "the player that gives us the better chance to win is the one who plays."
The Giants 2022 season is not "The Daniel Jones Decision." At least until they are eliminated it is about qualifying for the playoffs. If Jones comes out in the first two games and plays poorly he should absolutely be on the bench. He should not get the same leeway as an established NFL QB to play out of a slump.
I know it is a minor thing to some, but DG being allowed to parade around the field prior to season finale/allowed to 'retire' instead of being canned still doesn't sit well with me. Worst hire in Giants history, even worse than Ray.
It's not how the Mara's do business. That said, canning DG prior to the end of last season would not have added any real value outside of satisfying those who craved their pound plus of flesh so letting him retire gracefully was the correct decision.
These preseason reports on Jones playing with the first team read more like a player who should be worried about his roster spot versus a guy who has locked up the starting QB job.
RE: in fact here's my first impression on watching Golladay's...
Now that he has the money, maybe the commitment to how he has to play the game just isn't there.
Besides his fat bank account, I also suspect that he's got a bit of jackrabbit in him. JJ could still play, 2016 was proof. But once the Giants got back to the Giants of the 2010 decade (2020 too, and counting), he lost interest; he wanted his compete and his competitive nature to matter come season's end and when it didn't matter, his play reflected it.
Now JJ was not DG's signing, obviously, but he has just been so, so poor and spendthrift in figuring out what FA pieces should work given the team's big picture, which he misread horribly multiple times.
but who knows how it play out from that point. Be patient.
It's still early, some OL issues and WR's that have been injured or are new.
What may be impacting Jones it has been made very clear to him he has to earn the right to stay. Don't be surprised if the pressure is mounting internally within him.
One of the big things when I look at QB's in college and leaders in general is how they handle stress. No doubt Jones is in that environment now imv. You either rise or fall.
Would have hoped both Jones and Golladay came out today
I know it is a minor thing to some, but DG being allowed to parade around the field prior to season finale/allowed to 'retire' instead of being canned still doesn't sit well with me. Worst hire in Giants history, even worse than Ray.
Agreed. They shouldn’t of let him safe face. He was. A nightmare for this team 90% of the time. I would be shown the door by security at my job if I was that inept
I think our defense will have a chance to be ok this season
Nothing special, but it will keep us in some games. The offense is putrid and it’s going to be putrid. Our number one WR stinks, our #1 RB has had three rough years, we have no real Tight Ends and most importantly our QB hasn’t shown us anything to believe in him. The OL will probably be better barring injuries and the offensive coaching will be better than the Garrett/Kitchen crap, but we just are not a talented offensive team, especially when it comes to efficiency. Going to be a long, long season fellas—buckle up and hope in year 3 this new regime will have this thing back on track.
Now it seems worse. That was a concern with Sy’s original draft report for him. This is year four for Jones now, I don’t know how long the leash will be for him.
Some first team reps and really make this thing a competition for the sake of the progression of the rest of this offense. I think it’s clear as day that Jones is exactly what he has been and that’s not going to be on the Giants next season.
Some first team reps and really make this thing a competition for the sake of the progression of the rest of this offense. I think it’s clear as day that Jones is exactly what he has been and that’s not going to be on the Giants next season.
We know what Tyrod is too. You watch him at all since he's left Buffalo? Or even last week, for that matter. He is supposed to be accurate and he wasn't. His arm strength was lacking. He isn't winning any more games than #8.
If Giants draft a kid I hope he's given a fair shot at winning it rather than waste time with a 35 year old Tyrod freaking Taylor.
I think the D has the potential to be damn good, but might just run out of gas in some of these games because of the offensive incompetence. Like, the stuff we're reading about DJ, KG, & the like...not inspiring. I guess the one silver bullet is that Saquon looks good.
Let's eat the money and move on. Trade him for anything.
The starting defense and starting OL are much improved, but there is literally nothing behind most of them- and we are already seeing the standard injuries that come with playing football (and have nothing to do with the trainers that the simple like to moan about).
By week 8, I think that the tank will be on because the injuries will have mounted to a point of no return- which happens with every team- only because of the cap situation, this team has NO depth unlike others that just plug in the next guy up.
This team is going in the right direction, but the cap and lack of ability to add depots means that this is going to be a year where they are simply deciding who is part of the future teams and who needs to be cut at the end of the season- and nothing more meaningful than that.
Though in DJ and Golladay's cases, they seem to be lost causes.
Let's eat the money and move on. Trade him for anything.
Fine with me.
Let's eat the money and move on. Trade him for anything.
If a team with an offense as inept as the Giants think he’s cooked, what makes you think anyone else is going to be willing to pay him over $13M this season (even after the bonus money gets amortized, the base pay is VERY high and that’s what gets traded)?
There is NO team in the league that will trade for him. They’ll just wait for the Giants to cut and and grab him for a song then.
Besides, with the cap hit and the Giants lack of cap space, they realistically can’t cut him until the off-season.
But in the end, the owner hired the GM, so there's that.
Let's eat the money and move on. Trade him for anything.
No one is giving anything for Golladay at his $17m trade cap cost. However, I was wondering if someone would take him if we paid half (?) his salary this year. We’d still gain $8m in cap space and get him off the books for next year.
- The ones who do have size can’t get open
- Oh, BTW, there’s no talent at TE
Is Tyrod Taylor doing better with these same pieces against defensive starters?
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being an owner who signs the checks for all these wasted signing bonuses that Gettleman ran up.
But in the end, the owner hired the GM, so there's that.
It's the Circle of, well, something...
As did the Pats' DBs on Golladay. I made that point in game thread and Sy's review thread: Jones' issues aside, Golladay makes Robinson look like an All Pro.
On Jones, jeez, some of the reports, including this one of Sy's, make you wonder if he makes it through camp as starter. Worrisome, for him and the club, to say the least. He's got to be pressing big time and it seems he's not handling it well.
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needs to go. His expiration date clearly ended 12/31/2000.
Let's eat the money and move on. Trade him for anything.
No one is giving anything for Golladay at his $17m trade cap cost. However, I was wondering if someone would take him if we paid half (?) his salary this year. We’d still gain $8m in cap space and get him off the books for next year.
Missing the point- a guy who can’t get separation against 2nd team DBs from the Pats or even the Giants DBs and won’t compete for 50-50 balls (see the dropped TD in the Pats game) isn’t someone ANY team would be willing to pay more than a minimum salary without guaranteed money to.
The problem with Golloday’s contract is that the full $17.5 he’s due in roster bonuses, salary and workout bonuses are FULLY GUARANTEED. Doesn’t matter what they do- he gets paid ALL of it.
The Giants would have to eat literally the entire amount to trade him- and they have less than $5M in cap space. How do you propose that they make up the difference between the $13M base salary and the less than $5M in cap space to make a trade work? Realistically- you can’t
- The ones who do have size can’t get open
- Oh, BTW, there’s no talent at TE
Is Tyrod Taylor doing better with these same pieces against defensive starters?
If we're going on the first preseason game, I thought Taylor was lucky he didn't throw 2-3 picks.
This is where Mara really fucked up. And I kept yelling about it. Just stupid, stupid, stupid decision by Mara.
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-Aaron Robinson was tested several times on corner fade passes to Kenny Golladay. The second-year corner from UCF won every single one. While Golladay + Jones may not be the best metric to measure against, he got the job done with great techniques and ball location. Golladay did not come down with any of the targets thrown his way. Robinson was tested physically via positioning more than athletically down the field. The thing I look for here is timing and accuracy. Timing to get after the ball at the right moment, accuracy with his hands to get the ball and avoid penalties. He passed his tests there over and over.
As did the Pats' DBs on Golladay. I made that point in game thread and Sy's review thread: Jones' issues aside, Golladay makes Robinson look like an All Pro.
On Jones, jeez, some of the reports, including this one of Sy's, make you wonder if he makes it through camp as starter. Worrisome, for him and the club, to say the least. He's got to be pressing big time and it seems he's not handling it well.
There is absolutely no reason, besides injury, for Jones not to be starting. Taylor isn’t the future and he’s not a 10-win QB. They have to let Jones sink or swim.
- The ones who do have size can’t get open
- Oh, BTW, there’s no talent at TE
Is Tyrod Taylor doing better with these same pieces against defensive starters?
No.
If Jones can't get it together, this offense will not function.
Pray Schoen and Daboll get their guy in the draft.
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-Aaron Robinson was tested several times on corner fade passes to Kenny Golladay. The second-year corner from UCF won every single one. While Golladay + Jones may not be the best metric to measure against, he got the job done with great techniques and ball location. Golladay did not come down with any of the targets thrown his way. Robinson was tested physically via positioning more than athletically down the field. The thing I look for here is timing and accuracy. Timing to get after the ball at the right moment, accuracy with his hands to get the ball and avoid penalties. He passed his tests there over and over.
As did the Pats' DBs on Golladay. I made that point in game thread and Sy's review thread: Jones' issues aside, Golladay makes Robinson look like an All Pro.
On Jones, jeez, some of the reports, including this one of Sy's, make you wonder if he makes it through camp as starter. Worrisome, for him and the club, to say the least. He's got to be pressing big time and it seems he's not handling it well.
There is absolutely no reason, besides injury, for Jones not to be starting. Taylor isn’t the future and he’s not a 10-win QB. They have to let Jones sink or swim.
Bullshit. If Jones is completely incompetent, why should he just get to start? These coaches and players want to win games. Fans can hope and pray for losses if you’d like but coaches and players don’t give a damn about a draft pick 8 months from now. They are coaching and playing for their jobs.
The Jones scholarship is over. If the coaches feel he gives them the best chance to win, fine. If not, Taylor should play. Jones hasn’t earned shit.
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And letting him sign Golladay was utterly stupid
This is where Mara really fucked up. And I kept yelling about it. Just stupid, stupid, stupid decision by Mara.
It sums up Mara’s MO here perfectly. He refuses to admit his mistakes and hurt his ego until it’s too late…only to take a bigger blow to his ego and embarrass him further. Didn’t he want to give Judge another year too?! It’s unreal
Pretty sure Gettleman outbid himself for Golladay too sigh.
A. Jackson was the player who really stood out on defense.
On offense, DJ just does not look comfortable. In fact, the other two QBs look extremely comfortable (maybe not surprising). I'll note it appeared DJ was only playing against the first team.
I am amazed that DJ can still not master the fade. On one to Golladay, the throw was rather good (and back shoulder) but with no separation the corner was able to defend it. My immediate reaction was it should have been throw higher to allow Golladay to use his wing span and high point it.
Later in practice, DJ was throwing it higher but too high, out of the receiver's (could not see who it was) reach. Again, he's throwing it, IMO, too much on a line and with not enough arch.
Barkley looked extremely fast - there's no tackling but he looks almost back to his original form which shouldn't be surprising after a year.
The other thing I noticed was during what I believe was a 2 minute drill, the HC, DC, and a few others were on the headset simulating a game. Had not seen that before.
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And letting him sign Golladay was utterly stupid
This is where Mara really fucked up. And I kept yelling about it. Just stupid, stupid, stupid decision by Mara.
It really appears that Golladay needs to be paired a QB who will bury the throw into tight coverage (see Stafford) and allow him to make the contested catch.
DJ is not that QB.
Ever since he arrived, Golladay has not impressed spring and summer practices, and in preseason and regular season games.
Not sure what happened to him, but he doesn't look like the same receiver.
The $72 million may have made him less passionate about the game.
Ever since he arrived, Golladay has not impressed spring and summer practices, and in preseason and regular season games.
Not sure what happened to him, but he doesn't look like the same receiver.
The $72 million may have made him less passionate about the game.
Well that's true, his effort seems to certainly be lacking.
But watch his highlights in DET, he never got separation. He was making catches with DBs all over him, and being VERY physical with the ball thrown in a tight spot including a ton over the middle.
Comparing Stafford's ability to whip it compared to DJ is not really a thing lol
Dude takes a pounding. Immediately, I'm thinking he's not going to hold up physically. Typical Giant signing lol
Now that he has the money, maybe the commitment to how he has to play the game just isn't there.
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needs to go. His expiration date clearly ended 12/31/2000.
Let's eat the money and move on. Trade him for anything.
If a team with an offense as inept as the Giants think he’s cooked, what makes you think anyone else is going to be willing to pay him over $13M this season (even after the bonus money gets amortized, the base pay is VERY high and that’s what gets traded)?
There is NO team in the league that will trade for him. They’ll just wait for the Giants to cut and and grab him for a song then.
Besides, with the cap hit and the Giants lack of cap space, they realistically can’t cut him until the off-season.
I don't know if the market would be non-existent, but it's probably narrow. I could see Denver having some interest since Patrick went down.
Again, I'll take anything for the guy. And it would save us $13M+ since it would be a post 6/1 trade.
Reports like this make me think there is some juice to the Jimmy G reports. Please note I am not a fan of Jimmy nor do I think he is that good. However if Schoen/Daboll think that once the WR's and OL gets healthy we have enough to compete, they just may pull the trigger if they think the missing piece is Jones
It doesn't matter because in the NFL, you can be dogshit Business owners without it truly affecting the bottom line. It's not just impossible to lose money, it's impossible to not makes scores of millions.
I wish the NFL had relegation.
It’s looking pretty obvious which way the wind in blowing on Jones, but there is still a chance he could be the guy. So they need to learn something about him by letting him play. There is nothing to learn about Taylor.
I think Mara was very sensitive to Gettleman's cancer ordeal. And wanted him to depart with some dignity.
In fact, I believe the cancer scare allowed Gettleman to complete his contract.
Look, Jones can still salvage Gettleman's legacy if he can deliver. The odds seem Powerball long at this point, but there is still a chance... ;)
Yeah, that's the thing about keeping a bad GM past his expiration date with the expectation of improvement: because he's a bad GM, his idea to improve the team is likely to be a bad one.
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-Aaron Robinson was tested several times on corner fade passes to Kenny Golladay. The second-year corner from UCF won every single one. While Golladay + Jones may not be the best metric to measure against, he got the job done with great techniques and ball location. Golladay did not come down with any of the targets thrown his way. Robinson was tested physically via positioning more than athletically down the field. The thing I look for here is timing and accuracy. Timing to get after the ball at the right moment, accuracy with his hands to get the ball and avoid penalties. He passed his tests there over and over.
As did the Pats' DBs on Golladay. I made that point in game thread and Sy's review thread: Jones' issues aside, Golladay makes Robinson look like an All Pro.
On Jones, jeez, some of the reports, including this one of Sy's, make you wonder if he makes it through camp as starter. Worrisome, for him and the club, to say the least. He's got to be pressing big time and it seems he's not handling it well.
There is absolutely no reason, besides injury, for Jones not to be starting. Taylor isn’t the future and he’s not a 10-win QB. They have to let Jones sink or swim.
I don't understand this view at all. I much prefer "the player that gives us the better chance to win is the one who plays."
The Giants 2022 season is not "The Daniel Jones Decision." At least until they are eliminated it is about qualifying for the playoffs. If Jones comes out in the first two games and plays poorly he should absolutely be on the bench. He should not get the same leeway as an established NFL QB to play out of a slump.
It's not how the Mara's do business. That said, canning DG prior to the end of last season would not have added any real value outside of satisfying those who craved their pound plus of flesh so letting him retire gracefully was the correct decision.
Besides his fat bank account, I also suspect that he's got a bit of jackrabbit in him. JJ could still play, 2016 was proof. But once the Giants got back to the Giants of the 2010 decade (2020 too, and counting), he lost interest; he wanted his compete and his competitive nature to matter come season's end and when it didn't matter, his play reflected it.
Now JJ was not DG's signing, obviously, but he has just been so, so poor and spendthrift in figuring out what FA pieces should work given the team's big picture, which he misread horribly multiple times.
It's still early, some OL issues and WR's that have been injured or are new.
What may be impacting Jones it has been made very clear to him he has to earn the right to stay. Don't be surprised if the pressure is mounting internally within him.
One of the big things when I look at QB's in college and leaders in general is how they handle stress. No doubt Jones is in that environment now imv. You either rise or fall.
But these two aren’t a positive combination whatsoever.
Funny -- but sad and probably true
Agreed. They shouldn’t of let him safe face. He was. A nightmare for this team 90% of the time. I would be shown the door by security at my job if I was that inept
We know what Tyrod is too. You watch him at all since he's left Buffalo? Or even last week, for that matter. He is supposed to be accurate and he wasn't. His arm strength was lacking. He isn't winning any more games than #8.
If Giants draft a kid I hope he's given a fair shot at winning it rather than waste time with a 35 year old Tyrod freaking Taylor.