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Matt Peart: The forgotten man?

Jolly Blue Giant : 8/14/2022 3:30 pm
I was at practice today.....I didn't want to fight the crowds so I took a seat in the stands aways from the main practice field.....This is where all the injured guys were training. Toney was running in full pads and looks good. I wouldn't be worried that this is more than a day to day issue. The guy that caught my eye was Matt Peart. He was working one on one with a trainer. He was getting in and out of his stance, moving laterally, and sprinting forward. He was in shorts and a tee shirt. With all the talk of lack of depth, looking for a veteran swing tackle, I feel that Peart will be back sooner than later. We saw last year that he is not ready to be a starting tackle yet. However, he has good size, is athletic, and was a third round pick. Bobby Johnson seems to be getting more out of his players than the previous coaching staff. Maybe the answer to the swing tackle position is already on the roster, and not far away from participating.
I tend to doubt it...  
BillKo : 8/14/2022 3:35 pm : link
...he looks exactly what he is: a big dude who was probably a reach that early (was it 3rd round?).....
I always wanted to see Peart at guard...  
Capt. Don : 8/14/2022 4:01 pm : link
but then his position coaches low key questioned his manhood a few times last year, so I suppose it doesn't matter what position you put him at.
RE: I always wanted to see Peart at guard...  
Jolly Blue Giant : 8/14/2022 4:13 pm : link
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but then his position coaches low key questioned his manhood a few times last year, so I suppose it doesn't matter what position you put him at.

Im interested in how he responds to this new staff.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/14/2022 4:14 pm : link
Fresh start with a new staff. 🤞🤞🤞.
RE: I tend to doubt it...  
Angel Eyes : 8/14/2022 4:18 pm : link
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...he looks exactly what he is: a big dude who was probably a reach that early (was it 3rd round?).....

Yep, it was the 3rd round.
I'd be  
BigBlueinDE : 8/14/2022 4:20 pm : link
surprised if he's part of their plans moving forward.
RE: I'd be  
Jolly Blue Giant : 8/14/2022 4:21 pm : link
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surprised if he's part of their plans moving forward.

Why?
I was among Peart's biggest supporters this time last year  
Jay on the Island : 8/14/2022 4:40 pm : link
I thought that he would win the starting RT job and keep it for years. Last season obviously was a disaster for him and I had given up hope of him ever being more than a depth player. Even if he is healthy enough to play I wouldn't expect much from him this season because he's missed the entire offseason recovering from a major injury.

Peart has the talent to be a very good player but it clearly is a question of toughness and desire with him. I would love to see him get on the field soon and see how he performs under a good OL coach like Johnson because his chance of making the team significantly improved with the injuries to McKethan and Gono. He might be the swing tackle by default.
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chick310 : 8/14/2022 4:45 pm : link
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surprised if he's part of their plans moving forward.


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From former regime. Basically benched in favor of a broken down Solder. His former position coach basically called him a wimp publicly. Has to work himself back onto field still.

Tackles just don’t grow on trees but more than enough here to suggest him sticking would be a surprise.
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Jolly Blue Giant : 8/14/2022 4:59 pm : link
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surprised if he's part of their plans moving forward.


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From former regime. Basically benched in favor of a broken down Solder. His former position coach basically called him a wimp publicly. Has to work himself back onto field still.

Tackles just don’t grow on trees but more than enough here to suggest him sticking would be a surprise.

I would think that this new regime will not make decisions based on the former one. In fact, they may want to take the George Costanza approach.
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No1MDGiantsFan : 8/14/2022 5:40 pm : link
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surprised if he's part of their plans moving forward.


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From former regime. Basically benched in favor of a broken down Solder. His former position coach basically called him a wimp publicly. Has to work himself back onto field still.

Tackles just don’t grow on trees but more than enough here to suggest him sticking would be a surprise.


So you’re judging him based upon a horrible former regime but then saying he will be gone just because he was drafted by that same former regime?

He has the size and potential, let’s see what a non pathetic regime can actually do with him.
Sorry, not buying it.  
BillT : 8/14/2022 5:41 pm : link
Peart is a non factor until he proves he isn’t. Didn’t see anything to make me believe he’s an NFL player.
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John In CO : 8/14/2022 5:53 pm : link
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Fresh start with a new staff. 🤞🤞🤞.


You never know....sometimes bad coaching can just about destroy a player. Then, when the get that change of scenery a light comes on. Id at least like to see him get one last shot with the new staff.

Speaking of old OL in new places....guess who was the PFF top rated offensive player for Arizona with an overall grade of 92????:) Yeah I know, I know....PFF sucks...
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Angel Eyes : 8/14/2022 6:13 pm : link
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Fresh start with a new staff. 🤞🤞🤞.



You never know....sometimes bad coaching can just about destroy a player. Then, when the get that change of scenery a light comes on. Id at least like to see him get one last shot with the new staff.

Speaking of old OL in new places....guess who was the PFF top rated offensive player for Arizona with an overall grade of 92????:) Yeah I know, I know....PFF sucks...

The Giants don't really believe in PFF either; they said our linebackers sucked in coverage last year yet we didn't do anything to fix the problem.
With Peart  
Samiam : 8/14/2022 7:08 pm : link
First, I think it borderline gross negligence to start Solder over Peart last year. For one, even in the little he played last year, Peart was better than Soldler although that was not saying much. Solder was about as bad an offensive lineman as I have ever seen and had no future with the team whereas Peart is a kid and was still a 3rd round pick. At least, give the kid a chance. Now, the OL coach basically called Peart a wimp and didn’t like his practice work and his lack of enthusiasm as he saw it. Ordinarily, that might mean something but I get the sense that Judge and many of his assistants were not anything to write about and maybe the OL coach didn’t do the job or at least could have used better judgement with Peart. I’m not saying Peart is the answer; I just think that last year, in a lost season, the Giants had nothing to gain by starting Solder and could have given Peart an extended time to do the job or not.
The criticism of Peart's "want to" for football  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/14/2022 7:48 pm : link
didn't just come up with the Giants. It was in the draft too. The coaching comments just confirm it.

Coaches last year were clear  
JonC : 8/14/2022 7:51 pm : link
Peart doesn't play the game with enough snarl or agression to be effective, and until it changes he's going to have a difficult time.
He reminds me of James Brewer  
BigBlue7 : 8/14/2022 7:55 pm : link
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BigBlueinDE : 8/14/2022 8:20 pm : link
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surprised if he's part of their plans moving forward.


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He couldn't beat out Solder who was at the end of the road and when he manged to see the field, he didn't do squat drawing criticism from the former OL coach who basically called him soft. Now he he's trying to come back from an ACL. Why would he be part of the plans going forward
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MartyNJ1969 : 8/14/2022 8:34 pm : link
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surprised if he's part of their plans moving forward.


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Answer: He looks like Tarzan plays like Jane.
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Jolly Blue Giant : 8/14/2022 8:37 pm : link
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surprised if he's part of their plans moving forward.


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He couldn't beat out Solder who was at the end of the road and when he manged to see the field, he didn't do squat drawing criticism from the former OL coach who basically called him soft. Now he he's trying to come back from an ACL. Why would he be part of the plans going forward

im sure the new coaching staff are eager to form their own opinions.
Marty  
JonC : 8/14/2022 9:36 pm : link
Correct
RE: He reminds me of James Brewer  
Jimmy Googs : 8/14/2022 9:39 pm : link
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Can’t give a bigger insult than that...

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GNewGiants : 8/14/2022 9:45 pm : link
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surprised if he's part of their plans moving forward.


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Answer: He looks like Tarzan plays like Jane.


Joe Judge talked like Tarzan and cosched like a pussy.
Listen OL and CB depth are major issues  
mattlawson : 8/14/2022 10:08 pm : link
I’ll take the best linemen I don’t give a rats ass what their names are
To counter the fact that he was a third round pick:  
santacruzom : 8/14/2022 10:56 pm : link
He was a Gettleman third round pick. Therefore, odds are he sucks.
Peart  
AcidTest : 8/14/2022 11:16 pm : link
was taken with the comp pick we got for Landon Colllins. That year we had a pick (McKinney) at the top of the second and then didn't pick again until the end of the third because our own third went to the Jets as part of the L. Williams trade.

I agree it's unlikely that Peart is part of the new regime's future plans. He's low cost so they'll see what they've got, but if his issues are motivational, then there's no fixing that. As others have repeatedly noted, he couldn't beat out Solder, who was a human turnstile.

My guess that because his injury was so late in the year that he doesn't even play this season. But that will give the team time to see how committed he is to his rehabilitation and therefore football. If he thinks his career might be over, then he might become more motivated. It's happened with other players. But if he doesn't care then he'll likely be cut during the offseason, even before camp.
Peart, Gates, McKethan, and Lemieux  
NYGgolfer : 8/15/2022 7:56 am : link
injuries/rehabs are probably going to force Schoen to find 1-2 reserves after final team cuts.

Feliciano getting hurt yesterday is the biggest issue if serious. Giants have really nothing or basically below average replacements backing him up.
I doubt Peart even makes it back to the field  
Rudy5757 : 8/15/2022 11:03 am : link
as a Giant. The current coaches have talked with the previous coaches and watched the film. They probably also watched the practice tape of him. He is coming off a major knee injury late in the season. They probably have to keep him on the roster due to the injury and once he passes a physical will get cut or get an injury settlement.

There isnt a lot of positive in his favor. Unless the light has come on while injured, he probably will get his shot at an NFL career in another uniform or ride off into the sunset.

He couldnt beat out Nate Solder. Nate Solder!
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Gatorade Dunk : 8/15/2022 11:18 am : link
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surprised if he's part of their plans moving forward.


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From former regime. Basically benched in favor of a broken down Solder. His former position coach basically called him a wimp publicly. Has to work himself back onto field still.

Tackles just don’t grow on trees but more than enough here to suggest him sticking would be a surprise.



So you’re judging him based upon a horrible former regime but then saying he will be gone just because he was drafted by that same former regime?

He has the size and potential, let’s see what a non pathetic regime can actually do with him.

That non-pathetic regime wasted no time openly referring to Peart as a 4th tackle and using him as an example of how scouts should always be looking to push an existing player off the roster in order to improve the team.

They're not hiding how they feel about him. Schoen (and probably Daboll) see Peart as a JAG.
Injury prone is a term I don't much for  
Rod in St Cloud : 8/15/2022 12:23 pm : link
Aside from hamstrings, I don't really think there is such a thing as injury prone that so many people get labeled with. At one time, Phil Simms was considered injury prone. Football is a tough sport and injuries will occur. But I think it's unfair and silly to start labeling someone as injury prone when the injury occurs from actual physical contact.
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