Judge protected him.....played safe....and in my mind Jones regressed.
U say push him hard.
If he fails.....so be it.
But if he learns and grows.....maybe, he comes out of it....as a good QB.
Very well said ... from my purely optimistic perspective, DJ is actually following a normal learning curve progression of a new system ... start slow, look better, take steps backward ... hopefully hit bottom and get on a positive trajectory. Consistency from his receivers and OL would help too.
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#Giants Daboll - will be in pads today.....defense had a lot of disruption plays on sunday
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#Giants Daboll - it is good for the offense whonwork against a very aggressive defense to force them into mental gymnastics....then go over it afterward
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#Giants Daboll - this is practice...if you have a bad day, regroup and talk about it....
RE: I am fine....with a tough camp. Wink should throw everything at him
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Daboll said Collin Johnson has made the most of his opportunities. “He’s certainly earned it.” Daboll said he’s smart and has position flexibility.
GiantsWFAN
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#Giants Daboll - smith feliciano and ward likely wont go today but says "they'll be alright"
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#Giants Daboll - have moved golladay around some....it takes reps for everybody....he has done everything he has been asked to do
RE: RE: I am fine....with a tough camp. Wink should throw everything at him
Judge protected him.....played safe....and in my mind Jones regressed.
U say push him hard.
If he fails.....so be it.
But if he learns and grows.....maybe, he comes out of it....as a good QB.
Very well said ... from my purely optimistic perspective, DJ is actually following a normal learning curve progression of a new system ... start slow, look better, take steps backward ... hopefully hit bottom and get on a positive trajectory. Consistency from his receivers and OL would help too.
I'm a Daniel Jones fan. But he holds the ball too long. And that ain't a recent development.
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Daboll said Bredeson will be playing center today. “Smart, tough, dependable.” He’s a really good communicator with coaches and teammates.
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Giants HC Brian Daboll says he intends to play the 1s some in their 2nd preseason game vs Bengals, as well, but not definite how much yet
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Brian Daboll says the Giants will basically be down the same 20 players they were yesterday, plus the three who got hurt on Sunday. So 23 of 87 not going.
Defensive line coach Andre Patterson is back with the team after an early camp absence #Giants
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Daboll said Bredeson will be playing center today. “Smart, tough, dependable.” He’s a really good communicator with coaches and teammates.
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Daboll said Bredeson will be playing center today. “Smart, tough, dependable.” He’s a really good communicator with coaches and teammates.
I thought he was our best O-Lineman on Thursday
I think fans sometimes forget that players can improve from year to year, hope that's the case with Bredeson.
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Add RB Gary Brightwell to the list of injured players on the side.
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Replying to @art_stapleton
More chances for Antonio Williams to separate himself as RB2 ☝️with Gary Brightwell not practicing today. Brightwell and Matt Breida on the sideline.
Judge protected him.....played safe....and in my mind Jones regressed.
U say push him hard.
If he fails.....so be it.
But if he learns and grows.....maybe, he comes out of it....as a good QB.
Very well said ... from my purely optimistic perspective, DJ is actually following a normal learning curve progression of a new system ... start slow, look better, take steps backward ... hopefully hit bottom and get on a positive trajectory. Consistency from his receivers and OL would help too.
I was at the practice yesterday and Jones may have held the ball too long on some plays, but there were people in his face right at the snap. Not sure if Wink turned it up to 11 or the Oline had a bad day, but at one point there looked to be about three "sacks" in a row.
Not a Jones fan, and I am on board with moving on from him next year, but I don't know who would have looked good with that much pressure in his face.
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Adoree Jackson is not running with Giants’ first team defense to start. Bubble corner Zion Gilbert getting a shot. Team has to make two more cuts by 4pm tomorrow
I’ve heard completing reports that he let all kinds of traffic through the line and was one of the reasons why Daniel Jones was so bad on Sunday
I’ve read that he struggles at guard, where he played last year; but has looked very good at center. If this continues, maybe Feliciano goes back to guard where he’s mostly been in the past.
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Players not spotted at today’s practice: TE Ricky Seals-Jones (?), OL Shane Lemieux (foot), LB Blake Martinez (?), LB Elerson Smith (foot/ankle) and LB Jihad Ward (?).
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Daniel Jones delivered a nice completion downfield today to Collin Johnson over the head of Darnay Holmes.
Saquon Barkley slipped running a route, came out & had his early reps limited. But he came back in after that and rattled off a big run off the right side.#Giants
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Jones having to run a lot, nobody getting open
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#Giants - taylor flare to the right is read and INT by meadors...
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Nate Meadors picks off Taylor on a ball intended for James. Nice read by Meadors reading Taylor’s eyes
Thankfully none seem to be serious but man this team needs the 1s to practice together. OL cant gel and improve if they are not out there. C & LG have been a mess.
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DL Justin Ellis got some real work in today for the defense, though not full, so that’s a plus
Darnay Holmes with another interception on a # ball thrown by Daniel Jones. Think WR Collin Johnson might have dropped or got his hands on it, creating the tip
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The Giants throwing Wan’Dale Robinson the ball again today. He, Golladay and Collin Johnson the consistent 1st team WRs
Tyrod Taylor was picked off by Nate Meadors on a lofted, ill advised throw into zone coverage #Giants
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Looked like Giants RB Antonio Williams took a direct shot to the place where no man wants to be hit late in practice. Believe that was the reason for his departure from an otherwise very active session for him.
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At one point offense 1 had this happen on 6 play span: Short run by Saquon, false start, botched snap, DJ scramble pressured by Dex, DJ inc to Saquon on play that would have been a Dex sack, Dex sack.
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Darnay Holmes, Aaron Robinson, Yusuf Corker and Cor’Dale Flott doing extra running and conditioning after today’s practice
Daniel Jones and a bunch of receivers in the red zone after practice working on routes. Jones is standing at the outside WR spot demonstrating something
Jones appeared to be showing the WRs where he’s placing the ball, was raising his hands above his head to demonstrate, and receiving feedback from the wideouts, as well.
No one can say No. 8 doesn’t put in the work. He’s always been this way.
GiantsWFAN
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#Giants Johnson - camp has been good...and a grond...focused on getting better every day...has full confidence he will make plays because of how he works
U say push him hard.
If he fails.....so be it.
But if he learns and grows.....maybe, he comes out of it....as a good QB.
U say push him hard.
If he fails.....so be it.
But if he learns and grows.....maybe, he comes out of it....as a good QB.
Very well said ... from my purely optimistic perspective, DJ is actually following a normal learning curve progression of a new system ... start slow, look better, take steps backward ... hopefully hit bottom and get on a positive trajectory. Consistency from his receivers and OL would help too.
@giantswfan
#Giants Daboll - will be in pads today.....defense had a lot of disruption plays on sunday
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants Daboll - it is good for the offense whonwork against a very aggressive defense to force them into mental gymnastics....then go over it afterward
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants Daboll - this is practice...if you have a bad day, regroup and talk about it....
U say push him hard.
If he fails.....so be it.
But if he learns and grows.....maybe, he comes out of it....as a good QB.
Iron sharpens iron. Iron also shreds paper. I guess we will see which way we go
@Dan_Salomone
Daboll said Collin Johnson has made the most of his opportunities. “He’s certainly earned it.” Daboll said he’s smart and has position flexibility.
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants Daboll - smith feliciano and ward likely wont go today but says "they'll be alright"
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants Daboll - have moved golladay around some....it takes reps for everybody....he has done everything he has been asked to do
Quote:
Judge protected him.....played safe....and in my mind Jones regressed.
U say push him hard.
If he fails.....so be it.
But if he learns and grows.....maybe, he comes out of it....as a good QB.
Very well said ... from my purely optimistic perspective, DJ is actually following a normal learning curve progression of a new system ... start slow, look better, take steps backward ... hopefully hit bottom and get on a positive trajectory. Consistency from his receivers and OL would help too.
I'm a Daniel Jones fan. But he holds the ball too long. And that ain't a recent development.
@GiantInsider
Daboll says the offense is down to two O-lines today due to injuries.
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Jon Feliciano, Elerson Smith & Jihad Ward won’t practice today, Brian Daboll says, after they all left practice Sunday
He says they’ll all be alright but won’t be out there. NYG has 10 O linemen for practice today #Giants
@Dan_Salomone
Daboll said Bredeson will be playing center today. “Smart, tough, dependable.” He’s a really good communicator with coaches and teammates.
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Giants HC Brian Daboll says he intends to play the 1s some in their 2nd preseason game vs Bengals, as well, but not definite how much yet
@giantswfan
#Giants Daboll - DL coach patterson returned today...but unlikely he will work on the field
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#Giants Daboll - sills and slayton will start ramping up today
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Brian Daboll says the Giants will basically be down the same 20 players they were yesterday, plus the three who got hurt on Sunday. So 23 of 87 not going.
Defensive line coach Andre Patterson is back with the team after an early camp absence #Giants
@Dan_Salomone
Daboll said Bredeson will be playing center today. “Smart, tough, dependable.” He’s a really good communicator with coaches and teammates.
I thought he was our best O-Lineman on Thursday
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Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
Daboll said Bredeson will be playing center today. “Smart, tough, dependable.” He’s a really good communicator with coaches and teammates.
I thought he was our best O-Lineman on Thursday
I think fans sometimes forget that players can improve from year to year, hope that's the case with Bredeson.
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Giants have two offensive lines today, Daboll said Devery Henderson will move from tackle to guard today.
@GiantInsider
Max Garcia at LG, Bredeson at center
@giantswfan
#Giants opening 11 on 11 - hits golladay and johnson on the drive, ends with TD pass in right corner to Johnson
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Add RB Gary Brightwell to the list of injured players on the side.
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Replying to @art_stapleton
More chances for Antonio Williams to separate himself as RB2 ☝️with Gary Brightwell not practicing today. Brightwell and Matt Breida on the sideline.
Quote:
Judge protected him.....played safe....and in my mind Jones regressed.
U say push him hard.
If he fails.....so be it.
But if he learns and grows.....maybe, he comes out of it....as a good QB.
Very well said ... from my purely optimistic perspective, DJ is actually following a normal learning curve progression of a new system ... start slow, look better, take steps backward ... hopefully hit bottom and get on a positive trajectory. Consistency from his receivers and OL would help too.
I was at the practice yesterday and Jones may have held the ball too long on some plays, but there were people in his face right at the snap. Not sure if Wink turned it up to 11 or the Oline had a bad day, but at one point there looked to be about three "sacks" in a row.
Not a Jones fan, and I am on board with moving on from him next year, but I don't know who would have looked good with that much pressure in his face.
Yup. And Johnson only costs about $900K IIRC.
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Add Giants RB Gary Brightwell to players on the side not practicing.
And reserve safety Trenton Thompson is limping after turning his ankle covering kicks during special teams period
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Adoree Jackson is not running with Giants’ first team defense to start. Bubble corner Zion Gilbert getting a shot. Team has to make two more cuts by 4pm tomorrow
@giantswfan
#Giants - Jones lofts a perfect left side bomb to johnson who stabs the ball - much to the dismay of holmes
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Collin Johnson with a nice diving catch on a ball from Jones
GiantsWFAN
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#Giants - webb pass to doss - broken up by heslop and tipped INT by adams
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Davis pass goes through Keelan Doss hands tipped in air into waiting hands of Andrew Adams
@GiantInsider
Adoree’ seems to be getting day off, keeping legs fresh
@giantswfan
#Giants next 11 on 11 - Lawrence getting constant pressure
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#Giants -taylor completes a rope to board over the middle
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Devery Hamilton and Eric Smith playing guard today
GiantsWFAN
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#Giants - Barkley explodes thru right side for a big gain
@BobbySkinner_
Daniel Jones to CJ Board over Aaron Robinson
@BobbySkinner_
Daniel Jones to CJ Board over Aaron Robinson
This is probably from yesterday.
I’ve read that he struggles at guard, where he played last year; but has looked very good at center. If this continues, maybe Feliciano goes back to guard where he’s mostly been in the past.
@giantswfan
#Giants - corbin with acceleration thru left side for a big gain
GiantsWFAN
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#Giants-AWilliams darts wide around the right side for a big gain
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Players not spotted at today’s practice: TE Ricky Seals-Jones (?), OL Shane Lemieux (foot), LB Blake Martinez (?), LB Elerson Smith (foot/ankle) and LB Jihad Ward (?).
Pat Leonard
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Daniel Jones delivered a nice completion downfield today to Collin Johnson over the head of Darnay Holmes.
Saquon Barkley slipped running a route, came out & had his early reps limited. But he came back in after that and rattled off a big run off the right side.#Giants
The Giant Insider Newspaper & Podcast
@GiantInsider
Jones having to run a lot, nobody getting open
@GiantInsider
Ball throw behind Robinson, goes off his hand into Darnay Holmes for a pick
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants - jones a bit off on left throw to robinson....tipped and INT by holmes for a TD
@GiantInsider
With Blake out, Beavers with 1s
@GiantInsider
RB Antonio Williams just hurt himself, limped off the field
@giantswfan
#Giants - taylor flare to the right is read and INT by meadors...
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Nate Meadors picks off Taylor on a ball intended for James. Nice read by Meadors reading Taylor’s eyes
Thankfully none seem to be serious but man this team needs the 1s to practice together. OL cant gel and improve if they are not out there. C & LG have been a mess.
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DL Justin Ellis got some real work in today for the defense, though not full, so that’s a plus
Darnay Holmes with another interception on a # ball thrown by Daniel Jones. Think WR Collin Johnson might have dropped or got his hands on it, creating the tip
Pat Leonard
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The Giants throwing Wan’Dale Robinson the ball again today. He, Golladay and Collin Johnson the consistent 1st team WRs
Tyrod Taylor was picked off by Nate Meadors on a lofted, ill advised throw into zone coverage #Giants
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@art_stapleton
Looked like Giants RB Antonio Williams took a direct shot to the place where no man wants to be hit late in practice. Believe that was the reason for his departure from an otherwise very active session for him.
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@TomRock_Newsday
At one point offense 1 had this happen on 6 play span: Short run by Saquon, false start, botched snap, DJ scramble pressured by Dex, DJ inc to Saquon on play that would have been a Dex sack, Dex sack.
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@PLeonardNYDN
Darnay Holmes, Aaron Robinson, Yusuf Corker and Cor’Dale Flott doing extra running and conditioning after today’s practice
Daniel Jones and a bunch of receivers in the red zone after practice working on routes. Jones is standing at the outside WR spot demonstrating something
Jones appeared to be showing the WRs where he’s placing the ball, was raising his hands above his head to demonstrate, and receiving feedback from the wideouts, as well.
No one can say No. 8 doesn’t put in the work. He’s always been this way.
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants Johnson - camp has been good...and a grond...focused on getting better every day...has full confidence he will make plays because of how he works