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should we let Kenny Golladay run the TE route tree?

Giantsfan79 : 8/15/2022 4:09 pm
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-The TE group is still a spot I see the team needing to bring in outside help. Nobody knows the deal with Ricky Seals-Jones, but I am assuming he is just out of the picture for now. Daniel Bellinger and Chris Myarick seem to get the most looks with the ones and it is more of the same. Myarick does not have an upside, but he is gritty enough to get by. I think he is more of a #3 though. Bellinger is easy to like. I spent time watching the group run routes both against air and linebackers/safeties. The rookie is the smoothest mover in and out of his breaks and shows the softest hands. I don’t see Austin Allen being a 53-man guy though. Gotta love the height but his pad level is so up and down as a route runner. He has a hard time accelerating and changing direction, but he does have some stride speed.


that's from Sy's camp report today.

so none of our TE's have shown much route running ability. Meanwhile we have a 6'4 receiver who knows how to run routes but is having trouble separating from DBs.

Could it make sense to let Golladay lineup in the TE position and run routes from there where he'd presumably get matched up with linebackers or safeties which he could hopefully get better separation from? Plus, Golladay has shown an ability to block downfield (albeit blocking a CB is different than blocking a LB but still), he might be able to provide something there.

It might not work out but is it worth a shot seeing that we have the depth at WR and none at TE? Could solve some problems at least for one year.
So We Can Add Zero Effort Blocking  
Trainmaster : 8/15/2022 4:19 pm : link
To his portfolio of zero effort route running?

lol Golladay is having enough trouble just running routes -- you  
gidiefor : Mod : 8/15/2022 4:19 pm : link
want to add more assignments to his workday?
RE: lol Golladay is having enough trouble just running routes -- you  
Giantsfan79 : 8/15/2022 4:25 pm : link
In comment 15781509 gidiefor said:
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want to add more assignments to his workday?


no I'm trying to spitball some solutions. The Giants aren't likely to cut Golladay this year because of the cap ramifications and if they keep him at WR they are going to likely cut a good WR prospect.

Meanwhile our TE position is a pass catching void. Shifting Golladay to TE might solve his problem - he can't separate from CBs but maybe he still can against and linebacker safety.

if it works the Giants get some production out of the TE position and get to keep one more WR.
Yes  
pjcas18 : 8/15/2022 4:25 pm : link
as decision makers, I've discussed it with my partners and we unanimously say yes.
It's time to patch a call to...  
bw in dc : 8/15/2022 4:32 pm : link
Kelvin Benjamin.
Not to beat a dead horse  
mattlawson : 8/15/2022 4:48 pm : link
He can’t even be relied on to run the routes wide receivers are assigned
"We"  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/15/2022 4:49 pm : link
How many reps did you watch coach?
Golladay doesn't have any problems. He's making a ton  
Jimmy Googs : 8/15/2022 4:52 pm : link
of money for apparently no particular reason.

Life is good...

RE: RE: lol Golladay is having enough trouble just running routes -- you  
Jim in Tampa : 8/15/2022 4:53 pm : link
In comment 15781517 Giantsfan79 said:
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In comment 15781509 gidiefor said:


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want to add more assignments to his workday?



no I'm trying to spitball some solutions. The Giants aren't likely to cut Golladay this year because of the cap ramifications and if they keep him at WR they are going to likely cut a good WR prospect.

Meanwhile our TE position is a pass catching void. Shifting Golladay to TE might solve his problem - he can't separate from CBs but maybe he still can against and linebacker safety.

if it works the Giants get some production out of the TE position and get to keep one more WR.

The Giants will probably keep 5 or 6 WRs.

Do you honestly think that the 6th or 7th WR on this roster is a "good WR prospect"?
there is more to being a tight end then running routes  
gidiefor : Mod : 8/15/2022 4:57 pm : link
they have blocking assignments and shifts on the line

you are asking a guy who is basically an outside receiver to add things to what he is not doing well already

not a got plan -- the spit is dripping out of your shooter
The roster slot for stone-handed lousing blocking TEs is open...  
sb from NYT Forum : 8/15/2022 5:35 pm : link
...now that Engram is gone, so sure, why the heck not? He should fit right in! He runs lousy routes too, just like Engram!
You can tell him to run,  
Silver Spoon : 8/15/2022 7:08 pm : link
And just keep on running.
I can accept that so far  
Giantsfan79 : 8/15/2022 7:16 pm : link
my idea has meet with derision and rejection but let me ask you do you want to see Golladay spending the year on the bench because if you follow Sy's write-ups, he's not one of our top 3 WR this year, and he's not getting cut?

What should be done with him?
RE: I can accept that so far  
outeiroj : 8/15/2022 7:25 pm : link
In comment 15781656 Giantsfan79 said:
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my idea has meet with derision and rejection but let me ask you do you want to see Golladay spending the year on the bench because if you follow Sy's write-ups, he's not one of our top 3 WR this year, and he's not getting cut?

What should be done with him?


As well respected as Sy is, he doesn't work for the Giants. Let Giants personnel make the decision of who they want on the field
He Can Do Less Damage On The Bench  
Trainmaster : 8/15/2022 7:28 pm : link
And allow any number of more motivated and talented players to get an opportunity.

As long as the tree is outside the stadium...  
TheEvilLurker : 8/15/2022 7:32 pm : link
I'm okay with it.
I think we should put him on all the special teams  
kelly : 8/15/2022 7:49 pm : link
Maybe that way we get some value out of him
Golladay  
Joe Beckwith : 8/15/2022 9:13 pm : link
runs as fast as a tree.
And his route is more like root rot.
Add him to the list of players  
GiantsRage2007 : 8/16/2022 7:52 am : link
Who won’t be here next year. Cut bait as soon as financially feasible.
LOL  
It's a New Day : 8/16/2022 8:06 am : link
Kenny Golladay is not a tight end. Do you see toughness in him? Blocking ability?
I think Golladay should be cut  
GeofromNJ : 8/16/2022 12:56 pm : link
It's bad for team morale to have a player on the roster who makes a ton of money and does nothing to deserve it. Yeah, I know, when he's gone, the players will still know that he was grossly overpaid, but it won't be the same as having to look at him every day and be reminded.
The signing does not look good  
Mike fr Warwick : 8/16/2022 1:32 pm : link
At this time. Not an option to cut him cap wise.
Not like he doesn’t, care. A hard working pro who spent the off Season here. Worked with Jones every chance he got. He is a physical mismatch size wise with most cbs.
Think with good scheming he can be productive. He should be a factor in the red zone for example. Match him up with smaller db in space created by scheme.and take advantage..
I am not trying to justify the signing just indicating he can have a roll and produce.

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