It comes down to this. Saul had fleed marions house and is loose and out in the world. What do we think? IMO kind of a slow sprint across the finish line but whatever, we get to see what unfolds.
I hope how Saul gets caught in the end is at least funny. And what about Kim? What will her fate be? Kind of sad to see it all end but they'll probably come up with another show.
Let's do this. Get out your bowling balls and prostitutes!
https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/12-details-you-may-have-missed-on-the-better-call-saul-series-finale/ss-AA10HYhe?li=BBnb7Kz#image=1 - ( New Window )
It was a deserving and realistic ending. Excellent character study for the TV format. Maybe one of the best. I think him owning up to everything and trying to revert back to Jimmy was a good moment. Chuck summed up Jimmy early on in season 1..."my brother is a good guy who can't help himself."
I think that's true. Deep down Jimmy is a decent person, and him trying to revert back to that man was a satisfying ending for me.
It was a deserving and realistic ending. Excellent character study for the TV format. Maybe one of the best. I think him owning up to everything and trying to revert back to Jimmy was a good moment. Chuck summed up Jimmy early on in season 1..."my brother is a good guy who can't help himself."
I think that's true. Deep down Jimmy is a decent person, and him trying to revert back to that man was a satisfying ending for me.
He’s a pretty bad person. His confession made that clear. He was ok with murders and people being killed and hurt etc because he was making money.
Lol if anyone missed those “details” they must have been cooking dinner while watching.
He did not like Brock's poisoning. He did not like blowing up a nursing home. He tried to leave Walt and wanted nothing to do with him after these two events. He tried to help Jesse look after Brock and Andrea and he wanted no part of Walt by the end of the story.
That may not make Jimmy an angel, but I don't see that as some evil, irredeemable person either.
The main point of Jimmy's character is that he never took responsibility and hid his feelings.
I don't see the point for him to once again pull some massive con to walk free. What's the point of the entire story if the character never learns anything by the end of it? Or acts exactly the same as he did in the pilot?
I have a hard time thinking any of the incarnations of Jimmy McGill were good. We see him pull pranks/robbing people in Illinois before Chuck saves him and brings him to New Mexico. He was a pretty consistent dirtbag. The most prominent examples of selflessness were helping Chuck out and getting Irene's friends back (where he was undoing a con of his).
With that said, I was rooting for him, lol. I wanted him to get the seven years. Dying in prison is a sad way for him to go - and I also think an incredibly stupid one given the hand he had.
I didn't love the final three episodes but the series as a whole was fantastic. I'm going to miss the Breaking Bad universe.
He was embarking on a career of catering to elderly law, not with the intention of screwing them over, but because that was a market opening.
The entire show has shown him helping the little guy time and time again. He routinely targets bigger game, or those he thinks deserving of a little shit for his cons.
I have a hard time believing he'd actually throw away a sweetheart plea deal, but Kim was someone he cared about immensely and wanted to get square with. Any notion that he didn't give a shit what happened to her, or that he'd truck over her without regret, is completely misguided. Doing what he did is in character, but that's a huge gesture to make.
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It was OK. Good enough. Time to move on.
Dude, I don't mean this as a message that's coming at you, but man, you are such a debbie downier lol. Is there anything you do like?
He likes me.
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It was OK. Good enough. Time to move on.
Dude, I don't mean this as a message that's coming at you, but man, you are such a debbie downier lol. Is there anything you do like?
In other words: the finale was average.
The show is over and it's time to move on. These characters have been on our screen and in our lives for the past decade and a half. The actors are all older and I thought the show should've been 2-3 seasons long.
Little Jimmy, I offer a Better question to you, can you read or hear viewpoints that are contrary to yours without becoming shrewish over it?
.... lol
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this was the series finale, no plans for any more seasons. who knows if they make any other spinoffs etc.
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Season 7?
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this was the series finale, no plans for any more seasons. who knows if they make any other spinoffs etc.
Thanks pj!
The only assumption I can make from that is something with a young Gus. Otherwise I don't see how the "whole different setting" part plays into this universe.
He also said though don't hold your breath you will ever see this. He's tapped out at the moment from the universe and wants some years off.
Now that was fucking funny
And you might already have seen this.
But, as Sherlock Holmes might say, "Nevertheless . . . "
‘Better Call Saul’ Stars Break Down That Final Cigarette Scene and Flash of Color - ( New Window )
It was never going to be a happy or neat ending. But it was pretty cool how it all went down. Loved how Kim and Saul were just sharing a cig like they always have, even left the door open to Kim staying very much connected to Saul and perhaps working on his behalf, although not sure if he's (prison term) salvageable.
Holy shit I was thinking it looked like her but thought she was too old or deceased! She was amazing, as usual. Awesome she got that part.
As an audience we are supposed to believe that Jimmy suddenly got religion sitting next to a federal marshal on his way to a court appearance . We are expected to believe he turned a 7 year sentence in Club Fed to an 86 year sentence in Super Max just to gain the respect of his wife . As evidence of his “good” side we see a flashback of him being nice to Chuck. The two are not equivalent . His relationship with Chuck was completely different from his relationship to Kim and at any rate, didn’t stop him from screwing Chuck in the end.
Other than “doing the honorable thing” his actions do nothing to help Kim. If Howard’s widow wants to sue, she can still sue. Kim’s chances in a civil suit are unaffected by anything Jimmy did. Based on Jimmy’s character over 11 seasons of 2 series and based on his knowledge of the penal system, there is no way he would have done what he did. It seems that Gilligan wanted to paint a smiley face on the series close rather than have a more realistic dark ending.
Why is it so hard to believe that Saul loved Kim more than he valued a life on the run or a life that sees him give Kim up? He adores Kim. HE acted like it.
Also, the guy never laid a hand on anyone. He wasn't going to strangle someone let alone an old woman. When he was walking behind her with the phone cord I knew he wouldn't do it.
I can completely believe how he got caught and how he wound up getting life in prison. HE's not a killer and he loved Kim.
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I thought this episode was a cop out. Throughout BB and BCS, Jimmy was a con man from the time he was a kid up to the time he was about to strangle Carol Burnett with a phone cord and conned his way to a sweetheart plea deal. One of the themes of his character is that he had a complete blind spot to who was getting hurt. Even Howard getting killed right in front of him didn’t change him. Not only that, he can’t even understand the effect it had on Kim as they argued over the phone in the previous two episodes. As far as Jimmy was concerned conning an investment salesman out of a bottle of Tequila wasn’t any morally different than ruining a colleague’s life or even getting people killed.
As an audience we are supposed to believe that Jimmy suddenly got religion sitting next to a federal marshal on his way to a court appearance . We are expected to believe he turned a 7 year sentence in Club Fed to an 86 year sentence in Super Max just to gain the respect of his wife . As evidence of his “good” side we see a flashback of him being nice to Chuck. The two are not equivalent . His relationship with Chuck was completely different from his relationship to Kim and at any rate, didn’t stop him from screwing Chuck in the end.
Other than “doing the honorable thing” his actions do nothing to help Kim. If Howard’s widow wants to sue, she can still sue. Kim’s chances in a civil suit are unaffected by anything Jimmy did. Based on Jimmy’s character over 11 seasons of 2 series and based on his knowledge of the penal system, there is no way he would have done what he did. It seems that Gilligan wanted to paint a smiley face on the series close rather than have a more realistic dark ending.
Why is it so hard to believe that Saul loved Kim more than he valued a life on the run or a life that sees him give Kim up? He adores Kim. HE acted like it.
He wasn't being threatened with life on the run. He has lined up a 7 year sentence in a low security prison in Florida. This would give him the opportunity to kiss and make up with Kim during his term and a possible life together after he got out. Whether that would have happened is another question, but given what we knew of him its not realistic that he was so overcome with guilt that he would have maneuvered himself into a sentence that he was unlikely to survive.
By this point he was so morally bankrupt that he was willing to threaten an old woman with strangulation with a phone cord. The reason he didn't follow through was that he realized he wouldn't get away with it. Guilt had nothing to do with it. I thought that was clearly demonstrated. Even after that he didn't have a "OMG what have I done?" moment. When he concocted the story about how Walter White forced him to do it, it wasn't enough just to pitch it to that prosecuting attorney, he had to do it right in front of Hank's widow. He was totally amoral right until the end.
In the end, its true he loved Kim. Just like in the end, Walter went to great lengths to save Jesse. It didn't change who Walter was and realistically it shouldn't have changed who Jimmy was.