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Giantimistic : 8/15/2022 6:10 pm
I am starting the process of getting a new metal roof and I am getting quotes--Massachusetts located. I got the first hard sales pitch today and my phone is being blown up by other roofing companies.

First quote today was around $80,000 for a 1900 sq foot house and a detached garage that would get a roof as well and adding 2 skylights. Was told that I would get a $7,000 rebate and they could give me some buy now deals for around $5,000. This would take it down to around $68,000. I could opt to not do the garage for $14,000 less and also could do no gutters for I believe about $12,000 less. I never though of not having gutters and that sounded like a bad idea.

The process would take about 5 days, they would take down my asphalt, put plywood over the whole roof, then put a grace ice and water shield, and then Worthhouse smart metal roofing.

Just curious if this sounds right to anyone who know roofing or has had theirs done and is the price too high. I am getting other quotes as well.
Curious on metal roofs, what’s the pros?  
UConn4523 : 8/15/2022 6:17 pm : link
that price seems outrageous, that’s 4x a 30yr shingle roof installation.
Wow is that expensive.  
section125 : 8/15/2022 6:19 pm : link
I live in FL. I have 53 square roof, including attached 3 car garage. (2900 ft house with 660 ft garage).
Removed concrete tile(47,000 lbs worth) and replaced with 5V galvalume, standard silver color. Underlay was Borel-T stick on. Inculded in price was 7 sheets of plywood and 80 linear feet of cedar Fascia - if needed.

Used stainless steel screws(upgrade from galvanized) as I am near the ocean.

$29.400....
RE: Curious on metal roofs, what’s the pros?  
section125 : 8/15/2022 6:24 pm : link
In comment 15781612 UConn4523 said:
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that price seems outrageous, that’s 4x a 30yr shingle roof installation.


Metal basically lasts forever, even if warrantied for 10 years. The underlay has a 30 yr MFG warranty. I got 25% reduction in insurance as the combo metal and underlay gives two complete barriers vs weather/rain. In FL that is significant as my insurance is probably double, maybe triple your's up north.
You need to get some more bids  
Jim in Fairfax : 8/15/2022 6:33 pm : link
There’s no way it should cost that much unless you’ve got serious structural issues included in the cost.
Section  
UConn4523 : 8/15/2022 7:38 pm : link
makes sense on the insurance end. Just have a hard time paying $80k for something that can be $20k now and maybe another $25k or whatever it will be in 30 years, if you even live there anymore. I get it from an aesthetic standpoint though, they do look nice, but the price is still crazy.
I was hoping for $40-$50  
Giantimistic : 8/15/2022 7:56 pm : link
I had gotten an asphalt quote for my roof 2 years ago with 2 skylights for $30,000 - $35,000.

I am always hesitant when a company has so many salesmen. They were also talking down the idea of going for a general contractor that does roofing--where saying they all subcontract the work and take mark up, but at the same time, I am clearly paying for a whole lot of salesmen for the roof.
Depends on your age  
upnyg : 8/15/2022 8:02 pm : link
I just did an asphalt roof, with 30 years shingles. It will out live me...cost $18,000 for 3600 square foot house. That was a full tear off and new wood underneath. That was in the middle of Covid, so maybe its higher.
RE: Section  
section125 : 8/15/2022 8:09 pm : link
In comment 15781681 UConn4523 said:
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makes sense on the insurance end. Just have a hard time paying $80k for something that can be $20k now and maybe another $25k or whatever it will be in 30 years, if you even live there anymore. I get it from an aesthetic standpoint though, they do look nice, but the price is still crazy.


For $80G, I agree. That is a bullshit price.
Damn!  
rasbutant : 8/15/2022 10:16 pm : link
Ok 12k for gutters, that's all you need to know right there about this company. Gutter run about $10/LF, $14/lf for seamless, installed. Are they putting copper on? Even then i don't know the LF you have, but probably still not more then 5-6k for copper.

I would want to know why they need to install new plywood over the whole roof. Also, might want to read up on pros and cons of installing it over the existing asphalt. I probably wouldn't do it but it's done everyday somewhere in the world.

Not to add more cost to an already expensive project, but adding additional insulation (foam board) to the exterior of the roof has many benefits and works well with metal roof replacement, you might want to look into that.

Good luck.
Insane!  
Daniel in Kentucky : 8/15/2022 10:27 pm : link
My house is about your size and I got my metal roof installed for $10,000 two years ago.
Not east coast, I live in Northern Kentucky outside Cincy - but that is a crazy price!

To answer the question of Pros
In all likelihood you’ll never replace in your lifetime
Aesthetics are more sleek and modern looking
Stays sleeker and appears cleaner than a shingled roof

Cons
Expensive
Oh also..  
rasbutant : 8/15/2022 10:36 pm : link
Not sure if you meant Ice and water shield on the whole roofm, but if so this is not necessary and very expansive. It also can have negative effects with vapor barrier. If the house isn't properly ventilated installing this product in this manner can cause major issues with mold.
RE: Insane!  
eric2425ny : 8/15/2022 10:56 pm : link
In comment 15781853 Daniel in Kentucky said:
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My house is about your size and I got my metal roof installed for $10,000 two years ago.
Not east coast, I live in Northern Kentucky outside Cincy - but that is a crazy price!

To answer the question of Pros
In all likelihood you’ll never replace in your lifetime
Aesthetics are more sleek and modern looking
Stays sleeker and appears cleaner than a shingled roof

Cons
Expensive


Probably an amateur hour question here, but is it crazy loud with the metal roofs when it rains?
No  
Daniel in Kentucky : 8/15/2022 11:18 pm : link
Not crazy loud
Can’t notice the difference
That price quote is nuts  
Ike#88 : 8/16/2022 7:25 am : link
Get some other contractors out to bid on it which sometimes can be a problem. If your roof is not leaking then you have time to do so. Gutters have become the new way to fleece people. When they throw the big price out then try and get you to bite with the discounts it is a sales trick. If you go asphalt roof get light colored shingles. I see people putting black shingles on still and with the increased summer heat this is just not smart. Commercial buildings are painting their flat roofs white for a reason.
RE: That price quote is nuts  
Giantimistic : 8/16/2022 7:44 am : link
In comment 15781922 Ike#88 said:
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Get some other contractors out to bid on it which sometimes can be a problem. If your roof is not leaking then you have time to do so. Gutters have become the new way to fleece people. When they throw the big price out then try and get you to bite with the discounts it is a sales trick. If you go asphalt roof get light colored shingles. I see people putting black shingles on still and with the increased summer heat this is just not smart. Commercial buildings are painting their flat roofs white for a reason.


The price for the gutters is what gave me the biggest pause. I could redo a bathroom for the price of the gutters.
RE: RE: That price quote is nuts  
section125 : 8/16/2022 8:07 am : link
In comment 15781935 Giantimistic said:
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In comment 15781922 Ike#88 said:


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Get some other contractors out to bid on it which sometimes can be a problem. If your roof is not leaking then you have time to do so. Gutters have become the new way to fleece people. When they throw the big price out then try and get you to bite with the discounts it is a sales trick. If you go asphalt roof get light colored shingles. I see people putting black shingles on still and with the increased summer heat this is just not smart. Commercial buildings are painting their flat roofs white for a reason.



The price for the gutters is what gave me the biggest pause. I could redo a bathroom for the price of the gutters.


Is that a two story or one story house?

And do you have gutters already?
Giantmistic  
UConn4523 : 8/16/2022 8:18 am : link
the company you are using is doing exactly what they are saying a contractor is doing, just with their own people.

If a GC comes out and gives you a price, say $45k for the roof, and has good references and reputation, why would it matter if they sub it out? You agreement is with them, not the sub.

You'd be surprised how many builders do their own roofing anyway. Metal roofing may be a bit harder to come by but i'd definitely try looking first.
Standing seam metal roofs  
VTChuck : 8/18/2022 9:15 am : link
are common up here in snow country. No ice dams. Snow slides right off. Don't often see gutters as a a foot of snow coming off a roof will tear them right off the building.

Some install "snow bars" to prevent the avalanche of snow on your doorstep.

And that sounds super expensive

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