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NFT: Mets Minors 8/16/2022

DanMetroMan : 8/16/2022 8:28 am
FCL

Thomas 1-5, BB
Williams 2-4, 3b, BB, HBP
Morabito 1-6, 4 k's, error (tough game)
Reimer 2-5, HR, 3B, BB, 3 rbi (first pro homer)
Perozo 3-6, HR, 3B, K, error (3rd best C prospect in the system)
Malm 2-4, 2 2b (first pro double, local kid)
Campos 1-5
Villavicencio 0-3, BB
Garcia 2 innings 2 hits 0 runs 0 walks 4 k's (one to watch)
Lancellotti 2 innings perfect 4 k's
very impressive start for Reimer  
KDavies : 8/16/2022 9:09 am : link
only 18 too (almost a year younger than Morabito). He could be a good one.
I’ve  
DanMetroMan : 8/16/2022 9:23 am : link
Tried every Avenue to figure out what Parada’s issue is but nobody seems to know anything. Hopefully, today he debuts . I’m not “worried” just curious as to why he’s yet to appear.
Garcia  
DanMetroMan : 8/16/2022 9:30 am : link
Needs to improve his command but he’s 95-99 and misses bats so he’s obviously intriguing
Mangum  
DanMetroMan : 8/16/2022 10:10 am : link
joins the FCL Mets (rehab)

Tidwell promoted to St. Lucie along with Brad Malm and Tyler Stuart
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DanMetroMan : 8/16/2022 10:26 am : link
I noted yesterday that the #2 IFA @mets signed last signing period (Willy Fanas) remarkably only has *2* doubles this season (3 total extra base hits), that being said Fanas is 1-1, and is now 7/19 in August with 3 walks #Mets
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DanMetroMan : 8/16/2022 11:09 am : link
Jack Ramsey
@jackwramsey
Kevin Parada will be making his professional debut for the FCL Mets on Friday, per source.
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DanMetroMan : 8/16/2022 11:22 am : link
Both St. Lucie and BK end their regular seasons on the same day (9/11) so assuming Parada DOES debut Friday with the FCL Mets he'll have about 20 games left to potentially play (St. Lucie almost assuredly)
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DanMetroMan : 8/16/2022 11:25 am : link
FCL Mets today- @jettwilliams04 is hitting 2nd (playing SS), Rehabbing Jake Mangum is leading off and playing CF, Rylan Thomas 3rd (LF), @jacobreimer3 coming off a monster game is hitting cleanup, @NickMorabito1 hitting 5th and DHing
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DanMetroMan : 8/16/2022 11:36 am : link
Fresh off his promotion to @stluciemets @bladetid will be making his first FSL start tonight vs. Lakeland #Mets
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DanMetroMan : 8/16/2022 11:53 am : link
***PRO DEBUT ALERT*** @mets 17th round pick @connorlbrandon making the start for the FCL Mets #Mets
Braves called up Freddy Tarnok  
KDavies : 8/16/2022 11:55 am : link
rhp, SP. 20 starts this year between AA and AAA with a 3.63 ERA, including a 2.03 ERA in 5 AAA starts. Doubt they bring up a kid like this for bullpen work, so my guess is he is the TBD who is starting Thursday.

Hopefully the Mets hitters give him a rude welcome
Tarnok  
DanMetroMan : 8/16/2022 11:59 am : link
is talented
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DanMetroMan : 8/16/2022 12:07 pm : link
Connor Brandon's first professional inning is a success. 1 inning 1 hit 0 runs 0 walks 0 k's. Far from a Connor Brandon expert, but from what I've read he profiles as a potential BP arm at the next level
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DanMetroMan : 8/16/2022 12:23 pm : link
****Pro debut alert**** @mets 8th round pick @dylantebrake 1 inning 1 hit 0 runs 0 walks 1 K for the FCL Mets #Mets
Tough  
DanMetroMan : 8/16/2022 12:28 pm : link
start to his career for Morabito, he's now 1-10 with 7 k's
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DanMetroMan : 8/16/2022 12:33 pm : link
DSL RHP Cristofer Gomez is too good for the DSL. His era now stands at 0.46 and his K/9 is 15.43. He should be in the FCL at this point (older for the DSL to begin with) #Mets
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DanMetroMan : 8/16/2022 12:37 pm : link
Levi David on to pitch the third inning for the FCL Mets, David last pitched on 6/21. To say he's had issues with command would be an understatement. 25 walks over 12.2 innings #Mets
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DanMetroMan : 8/16/2022 12:45 pm : link
David allows 2 hits and a run while striking out 2. Jett Williams commits his first professional error (throwing) #Mets
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DanMetroMan : 8/16/2022 1:10 pm : link
@jacobreimer3 continues his hit start with a single, @NickMorabito1 collects his first professional 2B #Mets
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DanMetroMan : 8/16/2022 1:21 pm : link
John Harper
@NYNJHarper
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2m
Spoke to a scout today about Baty: "He's got a great bat. The bat will play (in majors). Defensively I compare him to (Alec) Bohm. He'll have growing pains. The ball gets on him quickly sometimes. But he's got ability. I don't think he'd embarrass them if they brought him up."
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DanMetroMan : 8/16/2022 1:21 pm : link
Robert Colina pitches the 5th. He struggled badly with St. Lucie but has now pitched 15 innings in the FCL striking out 20, while walking only 3, era down to 1.84. Have to figure he will rejoin St. Lucie shortly
Hamel  
DanMetroMan : 8/16/2022 1:22 pm : link
and Tidwell both pitch tonight. Tidwell likely will only go 1-2 innings.
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DanMetroMan : 8/16/2022 1:26 pm : link
Hamel has not allowed more than 3 er in a game since June 8th, a span of 10 starts. He allowed 2 or less 8 times during that span
Dan posted this this morning on the game 1 thread from last night  
Snablats : 8/16/2022 1:28 pm : link
Puma confirms

-The Mets view Vientos as a 1b/DH and was not strongly considered

-They felt versatility to play up the middle was important

The problem, and the difference, is that the Braves rookie callups can play defense while the Mets rookie callups cant

And I posted the stark differences between Conforto's A/AA numbers in 2015 vs Baty's numbers this season. There is no comparison between the two
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pjcas18 : 8/16/2022 1:35 pm : link
John Harper
@NYNJHarper
· 17m
Spoke to a scout today about Baty: "He's got a great bat. The bat will play (in majors). Defensively I compare him to (Alec) Bohm. He'll have growing pains. The ball gets on him quickly sometimes. But he's got ability. I don't think he'd embarrass them if they brought him up."
RE: Dan posted this this morning on the game 1 thread from last night  
DanMetroMan : 8/16/2022 1:42 pm : link
In comment 15782308 Snablats said:
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Puma confirms

-The Mets view Vientos as a 1b/DH and was not strongly considered

-They felt versatility to play up the middle was important


The problem, and the difference, is that the Braves rookie callups can play defense while the Mets rookie callups cant

And I posted the stark differences between Conforto's A/AA numbers in 2015 vs Baty's numbers this season. There is no comparison between the two


To clarify, I posted the BOLB, the rest is from Snablats
lol  
DanMetroMan : 8/16/2022 1:43 pm : link
Bold
RE: .  
Eric on Li : 8/16/2022 1:45 pm : link
In comment 15782323 pjcas18 said:
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John Harper
@NYNJHarper
· 17m
Spoke to a scout today about Baty: "He's got a great bat. The bat will play (in majors). Defensively I compare him to (Alec) Bohm. He'll have growing pains. The ball gets on him quickly sometimes. But he's got ability. I don't think he'd embarrass them if they brought him up."


i dont think theres been a bigger proponent of defense than me but this rationale ignores the reality that escobar hasnt been that great on D and that they need depth. they are 1 injury away from not having any choice in the matter.

in 2 weeks the rosters expand any way, why not bring someone up early just to have the playoff eligibility option? not sure if this is a buck loyalty to vets thing or eppler's just more conservative with promotions but i expect the alternatives to do just as well as blankenhorn/plummer/jdd/dom did when they chose them.
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DanMetroMan : 8/16/2022 1:54 pm : link
Colina also pitches the 7th. 3 innings 1 hit 0 runs 0 walks 3 k's. Only 3 walks over 17 FCL innings, it's time he heads back to the FSL
All  
DanMetroMan : 8/16/2022 1:55 pm : link
players in the organization by 9/1 are eligible for the playoffs. If a player on the 40 man is injured, he can be replaced via waiver to the commissioners office.
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DanMetroMan : 8/16/2022 2:05 pm : link
Joey Bart's numbers have broken my brain. He has a 109 wRC+ despite a 38.9% K%
RE: All  
Eric on Li : 8/16/2022 2:09 pm : link
In comment 15782352 DanMetroMan said:
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players in the organization by 9/1 are eligible for the playoffs. If a player on the 40 man is injured, he can be replaced via waiver to the commissioners office.


so they just need to be on the 40? doesn't matter if they get called up to the big leagues ahead of time?
RE: Dan posted this this morning on the game 1 thread from last night  
speedywheels : 8/16/2022 2:11 pm : link
In comment 15782308 Snablats said:
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Puma confirms

-The Mets view Vientos as a 1b/DH and was not strongly considered

-They felt versatility to play up the middle was important

The problem, and the difference, is that the Braves rookie callups can play defense while the Mets rookie callups cant

And I posted the stark differences between Conforto's A/AA numbers in 2015 vs Baty's numbers this season. There is no comparison between the two


Stark differences??? You posted walks, K's and plate appearances. LOL....

Let's look at some REAL stats: OBP, SLG and OPS, shall we?

Baty (A/AA) - 394/509/903
Conforto (A/AA) - 303/378/867

Baty's numbers are much better.

But sure, there is "no comparison"...
RE: RE: All  
DanMetroMan : 8/16/2022 2:13 pm : link
In comment 15782368 Eric on Li said:
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In comment 15782352 DanMetroMan said:


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players in the organization by 9/1 are eligible for the playoffs. If a player on the 40 man is injured, he can be replaced via waiver to the commissioners office.



so they just need to be on the 40? doesn't matter if they get called up to the big leagues ahead of time?


Any player in the organization (40 man or not) prior to 9/1 can be added. The Mets can replace say John Curtiss with Brett Baty.
Oops  
speedywheels : 8/16/2022 2:14 pm : link
Conforto's numbers are 378/487/865
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DanMetroMan : 8/16/2022 2:14 pm : link
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A player who doesn't meet said criteria for postseason eligibility can still be added to a team's roster in the postseason via petition to the Commissioner's Office if the player was in the organization on Aug. 31 and is replacing someone who is on the injured list and has served the minimum amount of time required for activation. (For example, a player on the 10-day injured list who has been on it for at least 10 days, or a player who has been on the 60-day injured list for at least 60 days.) Players who are acquired in September or after are ineligible.
Michael  
DanMetroMan : 8/16/2022 2:18 pm : link
Conforto

2015 141 wRC+ in A+ with a .372 wOBA, 160 wRC+ in AA with a .406 wOBA

Brett Baty this season 159 wRC+ in AA with a .415 wOBA (so Brett Baty, adjusted for league has as close to identical numbers to Conforto's time in AA as humanly possible) the one caveat is that Baty played 40 games in AA in 2021 as well)
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Eric on Li : 8/16/2022 2:21 pm : link
In comment 15782377 DanMetroMan said:
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A player who doesn't meet said criteria for postseason eligibility can still be added to a team's roster in the postseason via petition to the Commissioner's Office if the player was in the organization on Aug. 31 and is replacing someone who is on the injured list and has served the minimum amount of time required for activation. (For example, a player on the 10-day injured list who has been on it for at least 10 days, or a player who has been on the 60-day injured list for at least 60 days.) Players who are acquired in September or after are ineligible.



right but what's the rule without needing a waiver? i assume those are pro forma but just to take any unknown out, is it simply 40 man and you can be added to postseason roster?
Conforto  
DanMetroMan : 8/16/2022 2:21 pm : link
was 6th in the EL in terms of wRC+ (players with at least 100 PA's) and 6th in wOBA as well as 6th in OPS

Baty
1st in wOBA, 1st in wRC+, 1st in OPS
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DanMetroMan : 8/16/2022 2:25 pm : link
******FIRST PRO HOMER ALERT****** @jettwilliams04
has connected on his first professional HR
RE: Conforto  
Eric on Li : 8/16/2022 2:35 pm : link
In comment 15782391 DanMetroMan said:
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was 6th in the EL in terms of wRC+ (players with at least 100 PA's) and 6th in wOBA as well as 6th in OPS

Baty
1st in wOBA, 1st in wRC+, 1st in OPS


so it seems safe to say you don't agree with the non-bolb comments?
lol bolb  
DanMetroMan : 8/16/2022 2:42 pm : link
aside, the only thing I agree with snablats with is, they seemingly prioritized ability to play defense up the middle (which is pretty silly when we have a broken down Escobar, having an awful season even when healthy) so the worry about "back up SS" vs. actual offense at 3b is quite strange. I've been all aboard the Brett Baty train for a few seasons now and even I have acknowledged he still has work to do defensively... but Escobar has been one of the WORST defensive 3b in baseball this season (even ignoring his offense)... and now he's playing hurt.

If we were talking about a good/great defensive 3b who wasn't hitting, I'd be annoyed but "get it". We are talking about a guy who hasn't it, who has been poor defensively AND is now hurt. Marrero is sub replacement level. This isn't "boring but solid", this is a horrendous zero with the bat.
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DanMetroMan : 8/16/2022 2:45 pm : link
Andrelton Simmons was worth +15 DRS, +160AA just last season. He was playing with an awful Cubs team this season (and still posted +4 DRS, +3 OAA), if up the middle defense is such a concern... give him a call
Jett  
DanMetroMan : 8/16/2022 2:47 pm : link
Williams .909 OPS to begin his career
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DanMetroMan : 8/16/2022 3:01 pm : link
New York Mets
@Mets
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30s
Carlos Carrasco underwent an MRI this morning that revealed a low-grade left oblique strain. A typical timeline for an injury of this nature is 3-4 weeks. Additional updates will be provided as appropriate.
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moze1021 : 8/16/2022 3:03 pm : link
In comment 15782444 DanMetroMan said:
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New York Mets
@Mets
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Carlos Carrasco underwent an MRI this morning that revealed a low-grade left oblique strain. A typical timeline for an injury of this nature is 3-4 weeks. Additional updates will be provided as appropriate.


WOW

What a horrid decision to put him back in that game. Absolutely brutal
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Rory : 8/16/2022 3:07 pm : link
In comment 15782447 moze1021 said:
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New York Mets
@Mets
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Carlos Carrasco underwent an MRI this morning that revealed a low-grade left oblique strain. A typical timeline for an injury of this nature is 3-4 weeks. Additional updates will be provided as appropriate.



WOW

What a horrid decision to put him back in that game. Absolutely brutal


having suffered through this myself I can say its only painful after the adrenaline of and high blood flow has worn off.

You don't notice it initially, then later you do.
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speedywheels : 8/16/2022 3:08 pm : link
In comment 15782447 moze1021 said:
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New York Mets
@Mets
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Carlos Carrasco underwent an MRI this morning that revealed a low-grade left oblique strain. A typical timeline for an injury of this nature is 3-4 weeks. Additional updates will be provided as appropriate.



WOW

What a horrid decision to put him back in that game. Absolutely brutal


Buck has done a great job this year, but that decision ridiculously stupid.
This  
DanMetroMan : 8/16/2022 3:15 pm : link
will cause Carrasco to miss his vested innings # (170) so that will now be converted to a team option. Still think it's worth picking up (14 million to pick it up, 3 million to let him walk).
RE: This  
KDavies : 8/16/2022 3:24 pm : link
In comment 15782478 DanMetroMan said:
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will cause Carrasco to miss his vested innings # (170) so that will now be converted to a team option. Still think it's worth picking up (14 million to pick it up, 3 million to let him walk).


No brainer to pick it up for $11 million extra. See, if the Coupons were still in charge, there would have been questions as to whether Carrasco was sent out to get injured and miss his innings limit...
RE: RE: RE: .  
Rory : 8/16/2022 3:30 pm : link
In comment 15782459 speedywheels said:
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In comment 15782444 DanMetroMan said:


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New York Mets
@Mets
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Carlos Carrasco underwent an MRI this morning that revealed a low-grade left oblique strain. A typical timeline for an injury of this nature is 3-4 weeks. Additional updates will be provided as appropriate.



WOW

What a horrid decision to put him back in that game. Absolutely brutal



Buck has done a great job this year, but that decision ridiculously stupid.


see above man.
I wouldn't have sent Carrasco  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2022 3:31 pm : link
back out especially since he didn't seem to have his best stuff.

Strider went back out for 3 more innings, and he was fine, Carrasco could have just as easily been injured doing nothing.
RE: I wouldn't have sent Carrasco  
moze1021 : 8/16/2022 3:33 pm : link
In comment 15782498 pjcas18 said:
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back out especially since he didn't seem to have his best stuff.

Strider went back out for 3 more innings, and he was fine, Carrasco could have just as easily been injured doing nothing.


Sure..

But Strider is 23 years old.
Marrero  
DanMetroMan : 8/16/2022 3:47 pm : link
the starting 3b wow
RE: RE: I wouldn't have sent Carrasco  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2022 3:50 pm : link
In comment 15782502 moze1021 said:
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back out especially since he didn't seem to have his best stuff.

Strider went back out for 3 more innings, and he was fine, Carrasco could have just as easily been injured doing nothing.



Sure..

But Strider is 23 years old.


And two years removed from TJS.
So....  
Optimus-NY : 8/16/2022 3:55 pm : link
We've got Luis G out for 3 to 4 weeks and Cookie also out for 3 to 4 weeks. We can expect these two back towards the end of the first week of September or towards the end of the second week of September.

By that time, we should also have Drew smith back, as well as Tyler Megill. McNeil and Escobar are fighting through their ills and should hopefully be whole again very soon, with more of a concern placed on Escobar injury-wise than McNeil now.

Nido's gonna be out with Covid for a week or slightly more, so we're gonna need McCann to earn his pay now. If the Mets can just go 5-5 over this ten game road trip against the Braves, Phils, and Yankees, than I'll feel pretty good about things, especially in light of this spat of injuries.
100% agree on Simmons  
Eric on Li : 8/16/2022 4:01 pm : link
In comment 15782424 DanMetroMan said:
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Andrelton Simmons was worth +15 DRS, +160AA just last season. He was playing with an awful Cubs team this season (and still posted +4 DRS, +3 OAA), if up the middle defense is such a concern... give him a call


and for a similar reason i actually don't even have much issue with Marrero, almost every team has a backup SS and most of them are no-hit auto outs.

my issue is not hedging at 3b because of Escobar's injury and performance level. if escobar is a valuable contributor isn't the smart move to get him healthy and not run him out there every day while he's not 100% (which they've acknowledged since he can't bat righty)?

the carrasco injury opens up a roster spot for them to bring up an extra 3b without impacting the BP. Even if it's just to give Escobar a few days off until he's 100% why not do it?
With Escobar  
DanMetroMan : 8/16/2022 4:02 pm : link
scratched, do they change their tune and call up Baty or are we seeing more sub-MLB talents like JT Riddle?
Is Mayer legit?  
Everyone Relax : 8/16/2022 4:05 pm : link
Saying they are calling up Baty!
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RE: Is Mayer legit?  
DanMetroMan : 8/16/2022 4:06 pm : link
In comment 15782539 Everyone Relax said:
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Saying they are calling up Baty! Link - ( New Window )


He is.
RE: With Escobar  
KDavies : 8/16/2022 4:06 pm : link
In comment 15782537 DanMetroMan said:
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scratched, do they change their tune and call up Baty or are we seeing more sub-MLB talents like JT Riddle?


Should go with Baty.

Went to a Mets-Marlins game where JT Riddle got a 3 run HR. I am always good for that. The worst player for the Marlins seems to rake one when I go. Jeff Mathis hit one another game.
RE: Marrero  
Eric on Li : 8/16/2022 4:08 pm : link
In comment 15782518 DanMetroMan said:
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the starting 3b wow


this seems last minute bc Escobar was in the lineup, so presumably he got scratched and Marrero was the only option.

which was the exact obvious potential likelihood we all first guessed saying they should prepare for by calling up a 3b.

they have the extra roster spot with Carrasco going to the IL.

they may get another one if Escobar goes to the IL (which he should have done a week ago).

so great news, lockers for both Gosuke and Travis!
JT  
DanMetroMan : 8/16/2022 4:08 pm : link
Riddle remarkably has played 252 big league games over 6 MLB seasons despite a 67 OPS+
RE: RE: Is Mayer legit?  
Eric on Li : 8/16/2022 4:09 pm : link
In comment 15782543 DanMetroMan said:
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Saying they are calling up Baty! Link - ( New Window )



He is.


a day late the syracuse lineup will tell the story!

very exciting news if true.
Mets  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2022 4:09 pm : link
are calling up Baty
Video  
DanMetroMan : 8/16/2022 4:14 pm : link
of Jett Williams HR
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Once again proving that new made up numbers mean  
Snablats : 8/16/2022 5:20 pm : link
Nothing. Clearly Baty's defense is not very good and he strikes out a lot. Conforto's defense was solid and he struck out much less.

Clearly these two items were more important to the Mets then the made-up numbers
So  
DanMetroMan : 8/16/2022 5:23 pm : link
to clarify, you believe the Mets value something RBI's and runs over wOBA/wRC+? Just trying to see how far this goes.
RE: Once again proving that new made up numbers mean  
speedywheels : 8/16/2022 5:23 pm : link
In comment 15782623 Snablats said:
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Nothing. Clearly Baty's defense is not very good and he strikes out a lot. Conforto's defense was solid and he struck out much less.

Clearly these two items were more important to the Mets then the made-up numbers


"made up numbers".

Do you actually believe the shit you type?

RE: Once again proving that new made up numbers mean  
speedywheels : 8/16/2022 5:25 pm : link
In comment 15782623 Snablats said:
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Nothing. Clearly Baty's defense is not very good and he strikes out a lot. Conforto's defense was solid and he struck out much less.

Clearly these two items were more important to the Mets then the made-up numbers


Just because your pea brain doesn't have the capability to understand how he numbers are calculated/valued, doesn't mean they are "made up". LOL...
Some  
DanMetroMan : 8/16/2022 5:25 pm : link
Conforto scouting reports from before his promotion

"Defense: 40/50

Lack of speed and athleticism gives him a limited defensive profile; shows subpar range in left field and doesn’t get consistently good jumps; makes the routine plays but also struggles at times controlling the speed of the game, which could be an issue in the minor leagues; candidate to move to first base as a professional, which could potentially accelerate his ascent up the ladder.

MLB Player Comparison: Josh Willingham"


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And then there’s defense. Conforto’s not good at it and probably never will be. I like his instincts out there--sometimes he will make some outstanding catches, catches a player with his foot speed should never be able to make--but a lack of range really hurts him. Unfortunately Conforto is no better than a fringe-average runner, and that might be a generous assessment. That limits his usefulness on the bases, and it prevents him from chasing flyballs into the gaps. And while his lack of speed won’t preclude him from right field, a lack of arm strength will. His arm is below average for me, suitable for left but nowhere else. I think he’d also be fine at first base, but at either position, there will be pressure on his bat to produce.


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Defense
Slow afoot, Conforto has limited outfield range. He is best suited to play left field, with average arm strength and average overall defensive ability. Conforto will likely reach most balls hit in his general area.
Scouting report from whom?  
Snablats : 8/16/2022 5:35 pm : link
and when?
These  
DanMetroMan : 8/16/2022 5:36 pm : link
scouting reports are from 2014/2015, Conforto was up in 2015.

Here is Keith Law

"Defensively, however, Conforto is a bit of a mess. He doesn't get good jumps on the ball in the outfield, and when he does get to the ball he has a poor throwing arm that runners can take extra bases on. He more than likely is going to end up at first base, though it's unlikely he'll be anything more than average there, and the bat doesn't play as well."
RE: RE: Once again proving that new made up numbers mean  
Snablats : 8/16/2022 5:38 pm : link
In comment 15782629 speedywheels said:
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In comment 15782623 Snablats said:


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Nothing. Clearly Baty's defense is not very good and he strikes out a lot. Conforto's defense was solid and he struck out much less.

Clearly these two items were more important to the Mets then the made-up numbers



Just because your pea brain doesn't have the capability to understand how he numbers are calculated/valued, doesn't mean they are "made up". LOL...

Aww. Poor baby who cant watch a game and understand what's happening has to look at made up numbers to figure out what he just saw

How did baseball survive all those years with these new numbers?
RE: Scouting report from whom?  
speedywheels : 8/16/2022 5:41 pm : link
In comment 15782637 Snablats said:
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and when?


Here is Baseball Prospectus.

Try fucking Google, you may learn something?


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He made just two errors in his callup year  
Snablats : 8/16/2022 5:43 pm : link
And when he got to the Mets he did fine. So he either learned at AA or Law and others were wrong, which happens all the time

Baty made 9 errors at 3B, and infield defense is much harder physically and especially mentally than outfield defense

RE: RE: RE: Once again proving that new made up numbers mean  
speedywheels : 8/16/2022 5:45 pm : link
In comment 15782640 Snablats said:
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In comment 15782623 Snablats said:


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Nothing. Clearly Baty's defense is not very good and he strikes out a lot. Conforto's defense was solid and he struck out much less.

Clearly these two items were more important to the Mets then the made-up numbers



Just because your pea brain doesn't have the capability to understand how he numbers are calculated/valued, doesn't mean they are "made up". LOL...


Aww. Poor baby who cant watch a game and understand what's happening has to look at made up numbers to figure out what he just saw

How did baseball survive all those years with these new numbers?


Baseball did just fine. However - like most people in real life - teams can find ways to improve their product when they have access to additional information.

Not that I'd expect you to understand that...
Only the product is worse now than it was then  
Snablats : 8/16/2022 5:48 pm : link
Hitters strike out twice as much, there is no situational hitting (except for the Mets bringing it back this season), they have had to change rules to speed up the game and make it more "watchable". Never had those problems before
RE: He made just two errors in his callup year  
DanMetroMan : 8/16/2022 5:54 pm : link
In comment 15782646 Snablats said:
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And when he got to the Mets he did fine. So he either learned at AA or Law and others were wrong, which happens all the time

Baty made 9 errors at 3B, and infield defense is much harder physically and especially mentally than outfield defense


"Errors" Nolan Arenado made 23 errors at AA in 2012 and is arguably the best defensive 3b of this generation (9 GG's) Baty will never be Nolan Arenado defensively but "errors" only tell you flubs on balls you get to, not range, not balls other defenders didn't even have a chance on.

Andrelton Simmons is a top 3-4 best defensive SS in the history of the sport, he had 28 errors as a 21 year old in A+.
RE: Only the product is worse now than it was then  
speedywheels : 8/16/2022 5:55 pm : link
In comment 15782652 Snablats said:
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Hitters strike out twice as much, there is no situational hitting (except for the Mets bringing it back this season), they have had to change rules to speed up the game and make it more "watchable". Never had those problems before


LOL, so the Mets are the ONLY team that does situational hitting?

I'll ask again - do you actually believe the shit you type??
switching gears back to the team - if Carrasco makes it back at all  
Eric on Li : 8/16/2022 5:56 pm : link
it's likely not going to be stretched out as a starter, so i think they need to think of him like an extra potential reliever. not a ideal for a guy who has had issues in the first inning, but who knows, maybe his stuff plays up. his walk rate and GB rate are both good. they would be wise to start preparing him mentally for that type of role.

Walker and Peterson are now competing for that 4th starter spot with I guess Williams as more of a spot starter than long man? rosters are expanding soon so may as well stretch him as much as they can (even if they probably need to call up someone else to start on Saturday).
presumably this is baty's 40 man spot  
Eric on Li : 8/16/2022 6:06 pm : link
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Tim Healey @timbhealey
The Mets designated Nick Plummer for assignment.


which makes sense since he can play LF and they now have a bunch of OF options ahead of Plummer.
RE: RE: He made just two errors in his callup year  
Snablats : 8/16/2022 7:03 pm : link
In comment 15782656 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 15782646 Snablats said:


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And when he got to the Mets he did fine. So he either learned at AA or Law and others were wrong, which happens all the time

Baty made 9 errors at 3B, and infield defense is much harder physically and especially mentally than outfield defense




"Errors" Nolan Arenado made 23 errors at AA in 2012 and is arguably the best defensive 3b of this generation (9 GG's) Baty will never be Nolan Arenado defensively but "errors" only tell you flubs on balls you get to, not range, not balls other defenders didn't even have a chance on.

Andrelton Simmons is a top 3-4 best defensive SS in the history of the sport, he had 28 errors as a 21 year old in A+.

And now you reach for crap that has nothing to do with anything because you have no argument left. Im sure Ozzie Smith made errors in the minors, too

You are the one who has posted all year about how Baty has been below average defensively
I saw Brett Baty in 2018...  
bw in dc : 8/16/2022 7:13 pm : link
in Tampa for a PG event my son attended. He was impressive with the bat. One of those guys where the ball just sounded different when he squared it up.

Wasn't very impressive defensively, especially on the backhand side. Decent arm.

But he didn't get drafted for his glove. He was drafted for his stick.
I’ve  
DanMetroMan : 8/16/2022 7:24 pm : link
Openly said he’s not even average defensively at this point, your using “errors” to prove who is or isn’t a good fielder is the issue here. Baty has a strong arm and is a good athlete as well as a hard worker. He’s replacing a guy in Escobar who might be the worst defensive 3B in baseball this season (and also not hitting) what are you not getting? They aren’t replacing a good defensive player
Brandon  
DanMetroMan : 8/16/2022 7:26 pm : link
Nimmo was scoffed at in CF, he’s become of the best defensive CF in baseball by any measure. He worked hard, listened to the coaches/analytics staff regarding positioning and here we are
Nimmo says a dirty word Snablats avert your eyes  
DanMetroMan : 8/16/2022 7:29 pm : link
“ “I’ve been getting ready this whole offseason for center field. And yeah there’s definitely things that I need to work on and that I’m gonna continue to work on,” Nimmo explained. “I think playing depth is one of those things that they outlined in the *analytics* There’s other things in the analytics that we can highlight and we can go after. I think that’s one big thing that will help me.

“I’m trying to convey to everyone here — and we’ve had mutual conversations about it — that I can play center field, I can do it well. There’s definitely some things to improve upon. If there’s one person that can make adjustments, I think it’s me. … I take it as a challenge to be a better defender and be a better leader out there.”
Resnick  
DanMetroMan : 8/16/2022 7:31 pm : link
#Mets second-round pick Blade Tidwell made his full season debut with Single-A St. Lucie tonight.

He only faced 7 batters, hitting 2 and walking 1, but was consistently up to 96-97 mph.
Vientos  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2022 7:32 pm : link
20th HR
RE: Nimmo says a dirty word Snablats avert your eyes  
Snablats : 8/17/2022 12:14 am : link
In comment 15782738 DanMetroMan said:
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“ “I’ve been getting ready this whole offseason for center field. And yeah there’s definitely things that I need to work on and that I’m gonna continue to work on,” Nimmo explained. “I think playing depth is one of those things that they outlined in the *analytics* There’s other things in the analytics that we can highlight and we can go after. I think that’s one big thing that will help me.

“I’m trying to convey to everyone here — and we’ve had mutual conversations about it — that I can play center field, I can do it well. There’s definitely some things to improve upon. If there’s one person that can make adjustments, I think it’s me. … I take it as a challenge to be a better defender and be a better leader out there.”

I have always said analytics is good as a tool, as its used here. It cannot be the be all end all for a franchise - as it was last year under Zack Scott, who spent his entire career in analytics with his Math degree

RE: RE: Nimmo says a dirty word Snablats avert your eyes  
speedywheels : 8/17/2022 12:27 pm : link
In comment 15782907 Snablats said:
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In comment 15782738 DanMetroMan said:


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“ “I’ve been getting ready this whole offseason for center field. And yeah there’s definitely things that I need to work on and that I’m gonna continue to work on,” Nimmo explained. “I think playing depth is one of those things that they outlined in the *analytics* There’s other things in the analytics that we can highlight and we can go after. I think that’s one big thing that will help me.

“I’m trying to convey to everyone here — and we’ve had mutual conversations about it — that I can play center field, I can do it well. There’s definitely some things to improve upon. If there’s one person that can make adjustments, I think it’s me. … I take it as a challenge to be a better defender and be a better leader out there.”


I have always said analytics is good as a tool, as its used here. It cannot be the be all end all for a franchise - as it was last year under Zack Scott, who spent his entire career in analytics with his Math degree


LOL - don't hurt yourself too much on that backpedal.

Defensive analytics are just more of those new fangled "made up numbers"....
It has always been my position  
Snablats : 8/17/2022 12:43 pm : link
Go look it up
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