Mets Lineup
CF Brandon Nimmo
RF Starling Marte
SS Francisco Lindor
1B Pete Alonso
DH Daniel Vogelbach
2B Jeff McNeil
LF Mark Canha
3B Brett Baty
C James McCann
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RHP Max Scherzer
Braves Lineup
RF Acuña Jr.
SS Swanson
3B Riley
1B Olson
DH Ozuna
C Contreras
CF Harris II
2B Grissom
LF Grossman
RHP Jake Odorizzi
Time for the bats to wake up. Scherzer brings a different kind of energy to things. Will be great to get a look at Baty tonight. Probably, the best lineup tonight we've sported all year, even discounting Baty's expectations. Big game! LFGM!
we certainly wont be elated but i dont think the only outcomes are elation or bust. in fact the most likely outcome is somewhere between the 2. how he's looked in the field, what the statcast numbers/swing decisions look like, and if he's shown any extended glimpses of being able to reach a higher level are all data points not captured in an overall zips projection.
elated
think he's a bust
somewhere in between
and which of the 3 do you think is most likely to come true?
elated
think he's a bust
somewhere in between
and which of the 3 do you think is most likely to come true?
I'd be disappointed if that's what Baty is, and given Bohm's defense not being anywhere near "plus", I'd probably be 1 year away (2023) from looking to move on at 3b unless there were marked production improvement. I wouldn't be calling him a "bust" rather a low-level starter.
Seems to indicate a pattern to me at this point.
that's because most fans are impatient (vientos truthers especially).
bohm is currently the 17th best qualified 3b out of 22. that's not great but the position is exceptionally shallow. we paid $12m for the 21/22 qualified 3b. there are only 11 over a 110rc and if i were guessing i think he has a good shot to get there so i probably wouldn't give up on him (if i were his fictional GM).
Sandy Alderson said that Steve Cohen going to a payroll in the $345 million ballpark next year is a possibility...
On how Cohen's riches & passion bring 'immense possibility' for sustained Mets contention
JDG only counted 20 something against the LTT this year, so if he opts out and commands anyting close to Scherzer that's a +$20m right there. Bassitt is going to a $10m+ raise. Walker's $7m salary will double. Diaz and Nimmo are getting raises.
Steve Cohen’s riches bring ‘immense possibility’ for sustained Mets contention - ( New Window )
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Ian O'Connor @Ian_OConnor
Sandy Alderson said that Steve Cohen going to a payroll in the $345 million ballpark next year is a possibility...
On how Cohen's riches & passion bring 'immense possibility' for sustained Mets contention
JDG only counted 20 something against the LTT this year, so if he opts out and commands anyting close to Scherzer that's a +$20m right there. Bassitt is going to a $10m+ raise. Walker's $7m salary will double. Diaz and Nimmo are getting raises. Steve Cohen’s riches bring ‘immense possibility’ for sustained Mets contention - ( New Window )
Again showing that Sandy dumbass is still the boss calling the shots. The man who couldnt build a bullpen in over a decade with the Mets proved again last month that he sucks at the trade deadline
Alderson told us that he was finally moving to the business side - yet another lie from Sandy
Not one top name would even interview last winter because they knew Alderson would still be in charge. What a disgrace
The guy needed to usher in the steriod era to build a winning team, and then hasnt won a damn thing in 30 years since.
It was reported that the Mets interviewed Ausmus for the managerial job at Alderson's insistence, that Ausmus was Alderson's choice. Can you imagine that? Of course you can. Sandy's last good managerial hire was Larussa 40 years ago. Thank god Cohen wanted Buck
Walker left Tuesday night with back spasms. How long are they out? Which starters are up with the Big Club ?
Is Big Lefty Peterson scheduled to start a game ?
Walker left Tuesday night with back spasms. How long are they out? Which starters are up with the Big Club ?
Is Big Lefty Peterson scheduled to start a game ?
Carrasco will miss 3-4 weeks, they are hopeful Walker will only miss one start
Walker left Tuesday night with back spasms. How long are they out? Which starters are up with the Big Club ?
Is Big Lefty Peterson scheduled to start a game ?
Carrasco was sent to IL and is said to be out for several weeks.
Walker's report was a little better. Just back spasms, no injury, but not expected to make Sunday's start.
As of now it's Peterson and Williams for Saturday's DH and not sure what the plan is for Sunday.
Well, that's interesting. Thanks guys.
Seems to indicate a pattern to me at this point.
He’s such a pussy
I wish they would keep Walker. IMO they really need those five starters because there does not appear to be a quality starting pitcher on the immediate horizon in the minors.
But you are probably right that he gets the QO.
Totally agree about Nimmo. Marte moves to CF. Does Naquin get signed to platoon with some combination of Canha/Vientos/Ruf?
Wow all of a sudden every Met fan thinks he is the 2nd coming of Mariano. Amazing that it will be him who sets the bar for salaries for closers. They wanted him run out of town now they are rolling out the red carpet.
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Will be the highest paid closer of all time. He will get it and deserves it. Obviously, I’m not saying he’s better than Mariano Rivera
Wow all of a sudden every Met fan thinks he is the 2nd coming of Mariano. Amazing that it will be him who sets the bar for salaries for closers. They wanted him run out of town now they are rolling out the red carpet.
Fans get upset when players don’t perform. Mets fans aren’t unique. Yankee fans notoriously booed Rivera when he blew a few saves in a row.
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Will be the highest paid closer of all time. He will get it and deserves it. Obviously, I’m not saying he’s better than Mariano Rivera
Wow all of a sudden every Met fan thinks he is the 2nd coming of Mariano. Amazing that it will be him who sets the bar for salaries for closers. They wanted him run out of town now they are rolling out the red carpet.
That's actually not even close to what I said. The highest paid closer in baseball this season
Chapman 18
Kimbrel/Jansen 16
So... Diaz will be the highest paid closer in baseball via FA.
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Will be the highest paid closer of all time. He will get it and deserves it. Obviously, I’m not saying he’s better than Mariano Rivera
Wow all of a sudden every Met fan thinks he is the 2nd coming of Mariano. Amazing that it will be him who sets the bar for salaries for closers. They wanted him run out of town now they are rolling out the red carpet.
That's actually not even close to what I said. The highest paid closer in baseball this season
Chapman 18
Kimbrel/Jansen 16
So... Diaz will be the highest paid closer in baseball via FA.
I would rather be paying Diaz 22 than Chapman 18
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Will be the highest paid closer of all time. He will get it and deserves it. Obviously, I’m not saying he’s better than Mariano Rivera
Wow all of a sudden every Met fan thinks he is the 2nd coming of Mariano. Amazing that it will be him who sets the bar for salaries for closers. They wanted him run out of town now they are rolling out the red carpet.
What an interesting, informative, enlightening, educational, intelligent and intellectual comment you just landed there. We learned so much from your contribution. Keep it up! Thank you.
In terms of prospects, the cupboard is bare in the upper minors and the free agent crop doesn't excite me.
Steve needs to buck up here, supposedly he was the one pounding to table to acquire Baez last year.
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Will be the highest paid closer of all time. He will get it and deserves it. Obviously, I’m not saying he’s better than Mariano Rivera
Wow all of a sudden every Met fan thinks he is the 2nd coming of Mariano. Amazing that it will be him who sets the bar for salaries for closers. They wanted him run out of town now they are rolling out the red carpet.
Can you point to a single Met fan who has claimed that Diaz is the 2nd coming of Mariano? DMM specifically said "I’m not saying he’s better than Mariano Rivera".
People see shit that's not there.
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Will be the highest paid closer of all time. He will get it and deserves it. Obviously, I’m not saying he’s better than Mariano Rivera
Wow all of a sudden every Met fan thinks he is the 2nd coming of Mariano. Amazing that it will be him who sets the bar for salaries for closers. They wanted him run out of town now they are rolling out the red carpet.
He's having a historic season for a closer. Why is this shocking?
It's that weird dynamic when others accuse you of the exact thing they're actually doing themselves.
I understand what you are saying, but I don't like the idea of moving Marte back to CF full time. First off he plays a solid RF and has a strong arm. He is also far to important to this team offensively and I think he will get banged up playing CF full time.
Carlos Beltran talked about how moving to RF extended his career, with much less wear and tear on your legs. Marte has dealt with a couple muscle pulls this year and I would be concerned that could get worse as he ages.
Sanchez actually has some MLB success. 4.2 fWAR 2017+2018 thanks to his plus defense at 2b/3b, not much experience at SS (which is something they implied they valued) but he's probably better than Marrero #Mets
@timbhealey
Yolmer Sanchez, utility infielder, will need to be added to the Mets' active roster once he joins the team.
It's that weird dynamic when others accuse you of the exact thing they're actually doing themselves.
I thought he was, but didn't wanna say anything, I don't like them folks too much, lol.
In terms of prospects, the cupboard is bare in the upper minors and the free agent crop doesn't excite me.
Steve needs to buck up here, supposedly he was the one pounding to table to acquire Baez last year.
Probably not going to happen.
Nimmo is a good player but his value specifically to the Mets is leadoff, where he had an OBP of over .400 three different times. Now its dropped 50 points this season.
Marte can play there. Canha can get a few games in there. Naquin if he is resigned. And the organization appears to think highly of McIlwain, who is at AA.
I think Mets will make Nimmo a good offer. In an ideal world, they would love to have him back. But Boras will reject it and Brandon will wind up going elsewhere. Our best hope might be that Brandon looks at his buddy Conforto as a cautionary tale and just accepts Mets offer with a bit of a hometown discount.
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Will be the highest paid closer of all time. He will get it and deserves it. Obviously, I’m not saying he’s better than Mariano Rivera
Wow all of a sudden every Met fan thinks he is the 2nd coming of Mariano. Amazing that it will be him who sets the bar for salaries for closers. They wanted him run out of town now they are rolling out the red carpet.
Dan specifically said he wasn't comparing Diaz to Mariano, yet here comes a Yankee fan to cry and whine about it on a Mets thread. Maryland may blow, but not as much as you do.
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Especially after trading Pete Crow-Armstrong last year.
In terms of prospects, the cupboard is bare in the upper minors and the free agent crop doesn't excite me.
Steve needs to buck up here, supposedly he was the one pounding to table to acquire Baez last year.
Probably not going to happen.
Nimmo is a good player but his value specifically to the Mets is leadoff, where he had an OBP of over .400 three different times. Now its dropped 50 points this season.
Marte can play there. Canha can get a few games in there. Naquin if he is resigned. And the organization appears to think highly of McIlwain, who is at AA.
I think Mets will make Nimmo a good offer. In an ideal world, they would love to have him back. But Boras will reject it and Brandon will wind up going elsewhere. Our best hope might be that Brandon looks at his buddy Conforto as a cautionary tale and just accepts Mets offer with a bit of a hometown discount.
I'm not sure how robust his market is going to be. Last year Canha was worth 3 fwar, 8.6 over his prior 3 seasons (including 2020), and basically a .375 OBP/125 wrc/800 ops over that period of time.
Nimmo is up to 3.5 fwar right now, and while he's had more pop than canha in the past right now he's on a .764 ops/.351 obp, so the big difference is that he's playing a very good CF. He is just under the 8.5 fwar the last 3 years so he will probably get slightly beyond what canha had entering the market.
none of that is to say that Nimmo isn't worth more than Canha and perhaps significantly, he will unquestionably get a longer deal than 2 years so the question is where does his AAV come in? I don't think it's going too far beyond Marte's if at all because while a lot can change in a year, last offseason the open market valued canha's AAV about 1/3 lower than Marte's over half as long even though they were same age. i think that difference appropriately covers the additional value in CF and offensively. and if not the mets have both those guys as fallback plans.
i think this is right since they've put canha in center over marte when nimmo has been out. maybe that would change but i do think part of the decision to put marte in right was to keep less miles off his legs over the season.
if nimmo moves on i think vanzetti had the right idea with them bringing back naquin (or maybe someone a little better) as another option in CF along with Canha, plus Ruf playing more in LF. Who knows maybe Baty more in LF too.
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Increased optimism that Taijuan Walker, whose MRI revealed a slight disc bulge in his lower back, can make his next scheduled start Sunday. But the Mets aren't there yet. Walker called it "the worst pain I ever felt" and said he's "shocked" he's feeling this good two days later.
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Will be the highest paid closer of all time. He will get it and deserves it. Obviously, I’m not saying he’s better than Mariano Rivera
Wow all of a sudden every Met fan thinks he is the 2nd coming of Mariano. Amazing that it will be him who sets the bar for salaries for closers. They wanted him run out of town now they are rolling out the red carpet.
What an interesting, informative, enlightening, educational, intelligent and intellectual comment you just landed there. We learned so much from your contribution. Keep it up! Thank you.
Optimus, you only left out erudite and....fatuous, LOL!
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In comment 15784345 DanMetroMan said:
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Will be the highest paid closer of all time. He will get it and deserves it. Obviously, I’m not saying he’s better than Mariano Rivera
Wow all of a sudden every Met fan thinks he is the 2nd coming of Mariano. Amazing that it will be him who sets the bar for salaries for closers. They wanted him run out of town now they are rolling out the red carpet.
What an interesting, informative, enlightening, educational, intelligent and intellectual comment you just landed there. We learned so much from your contribution. Keep it up! Thank you.
Optimus, you only left out erudite and....fatuous, LOL!
lol Dennis. I'll add that to the menu next time we encounter Prison Striper meatheads of his ilk.