You need to do two of three things really well In order to win games and the other thing(s) can’t be terrible. So out of these three main elements of the game you need to nail two of them: pass the ball, run the ball and play relatively great defense, notably forcing turnovers or big plays— sacks, etc. And if you aren’t great at two of those you better be really special on special teams.
So let’s be honest here. Even if everything were to break right offensively, we don’t have the horses to field a truly great downfield passing game. It might be ok, maybe, even that likely is a stretch but great? No. Not happening this year. If the running game broke in our favor ok — maybe? Maybe we run the ball for 2000 yards? I think that’s still a stretch, but I guess it’s not impossible.
Then there’s is the D… and specials. Maybe. But ifs on D but if the nfl gods look upon the D with favor, it could be a good unit, but great?
We’re gonna need a lot of luck, but the only way to get there is with great D and great running game. In the best case scenario we steal games all year long, then find the passing game pieces we need next offseason, along with everything else we would still need.
I just want a fun developmental year. Beat a good nfc East team, maybe even twice….yea that wouldn’t fucking hurt. Maybe come out of the season with two stud OTs we all love and a nasty passrush/up the middle strength on D. We’d still need more numbers up front even if things break right in 22. We just don’t have the star power depth there yet.
RE: I think many of you are underestimating how good a chance
the Giants have of getting the overall #1 pick next year.
We have been knocking on the door for several years now and this could finally be it...
What's interesting about this scenario is if we get the #1 pick, I don't think we can take a QB.
If Will Anderson picks up where he left off last year - terrorizing the SEC - it's probably impossible not to take him. DE is a premium position, and this guy is close to a sure thing.
Anderson has Canton written all over him. I watch too much college football for the wife's liking, but Anderson is THAT fucking good. I don't see-barring injury-he doesn't go #1. That said, I don't think we're drafting #1 because our schedule is that easy, as much as we might suck.
Anderson has Canton written all over him. I watch too much college football for the wife's liking, but Anderson is THAT fucking good. I don't see-barring injury-he doesn't go #1. That said, I don't think we're drafting #1 because our schedule is that easy, as much as we might suck.
I tend to agree. It wouldn't shock me to see Daboll scratch out 7+ wins with this teams.
We have no TE. Apparently Bellinger can't block which is the only thing he did in college. Toney will be oft injured and will probably run the wrong route when he plays. Golladay is a waste. Wan'Dale may be exciting, but he's small. The rest of the receivers are average at best. If the center position holds up, the O line will be better than last year, otherwise not. The defense may be acceptable, but if Wink relies on blitzes, the cornerbacks, who are suspect, will be exposed. Five wins IMO.
RE: RE: I think many of you are underestimating how good a chance
the Giants have of getting the overall #1 pick next year.
We have been knocking on the door for several years now and this could finally be it...
What's interesting about this scenario is if we get the #1 pick, I don't think we can take a QB.
If Will Anderson picks up where he left off last year - terrorizing the SEC - it's probably impossible not to take him. DE is a premium position, and this guy is close to a sure thing.
Anderson seems like a immediate monster. At a premium position too.
Desperate for a QB too but have to think clearly about those player evals.
Anderson has Canton written all over him. I watch too much college football for the wife's liking, but Anderson is THAT fucking good. I don't see-barring injury-he doesn't go #1. That said, I don't think we're drafting #1 because our schedule is that easy, as much as we might suck.
I tend to agree. It wouldn't shock me to see Daboll scratch out 7+ wins with this teams.
Not a chance...
RE: RE: RE: I think many of you are underestimating how good a chance
Anderson seems like a immediate monster. At a premium position too.
Desperate for a QB too but have to think clearly about those player evals.
In the end, you rely on what Chris Mara says....
That was very funny.
Yet just a reminder...
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Biography
Chris Mara, who is in his 20th season in his second stint with the Giants, is the team's senior player personnel executive. Mara joined the Giants as vice president of player evaluation on July 29, 2003. He was promoted in 2011 to senior vice president of player personnel and received his current tile this year. In his position, Mara evaluates both college and professional players.
Mara was instrumental in acquiring numerous players on the 2007 and 2011 Giants teams that won Super Bowls XLII and XLVI.
Sucking yet again as expected? If we tank we have our shot at one of many talented QBs high in the draft. Combine that with the 2nd most cap space in the league and I’m far from panicked.
RE: RE: RE: RE: I think many of you are underestimating how good a chance
Anderson seems like a immediate monster. At a premium position too.
Desperate for a QB too but have to think clearly about those player evals.
In the end, you rely on what Chris Mara says....
That was very funny.
Yet just a reminder...
Quote:
Biography
Chris Mara, who is in his 20th season in his second stint with the Giants, is the team's senior player personnel executive. Mara joined the Giants as vice president of player evaluation on July 29, 2003. He was promoted in 2011 to senior vice president of player personnel and received his current tile this year. In his position, Mara evaluates both college and professional players.
Mara was instrumental in acquiring numerous players on the 2007 and 2011 Giants teams that won Super Bowls XLII and XLVI.
Instrumental. Right up to the point he wasn’t any longer after 2011. I guess he lost his fastball too and focused on the ponies.
Scary picture btw...
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I think many of you are underestimating how good a chance
Anderson seems like a immediate monster. At a premium position too.
Desperate for a QB too but have to think clearly about those player evals.
In the end, you rely on what Chris Mara says....
That was very funny.
Yet just a reminder...
Quote:
Biography
Chris Mara, who is in his 20th season in his second stint with the Giants, is the team's senior player personnel executive. Mara joined the Giants as vice president of player evaluation on July 29, 2003. He was promoted in 2011 to senior vice president of player personnel and received his current tile this year. In his position, Mara evaluates both college and professional players.
Mara was instrumental in acquiring numerous players on the 2007 and 2011 Giants teams that won Super Bowls XLII and XLVI.
Instrumental. Right up to the point he wasn’t any longer after 2011. I guess he lost his fastball too and focused on the ponies.
Scary picture btw...
About as instrumental as Dave Gettleman was as our “director of pro personnel” from 1999-2011.
You can’t find one player quote about them playing any part in coming here during those years….
So let’s be honest here. Even if everything were to break right offensively, we don’t have the horses to field a truly great downfield passing game. It might be ok, maybe, even that likely is a stretch but great? No. Not happening this year. If the running game broke in our favor ok — maybe? Maybe we run the ball for 2000 yards? I think that’s still a stretch, but I guess it’s not impossible.
Then there’s is the D… and specials. Maybe. But ifs on D but if the nfl gods look upon the D with favor, it could be a good unit, but great?
We’re gonna need a lot of luck, but the only way to get there is with great D and great running game. In the best case scenario we steal games all year long, then find the passing game pieces we need next offseason, along with everything else we would still need.
I just want a fun developmental year. Beat a good nfc East team, maybe even twice….yea that wouldn’t fucking hurt. Maybe come out of the season with two stud OTs we all love and a nasty passrush/up the middle strength on D. We’d still need more numbers up front even if things break right in 22. We just don’t have the star power depth there yet.
We have been knocking on the door for several years now and this could finally be it...
What's interesting about this scenario is if we get the #1 pick, I don't think we can take a QB.
If Will Anderson picks up where he left off last year - terrorizing the SEC - it's probably impossible not to take him. DE is a premium position, and this guy is close to a sure thing.
I tend to agree. It wouldn't shock me to see Daboll scratch out 7+ wins with this teams.
Quote:
the Giants have of getting the overall #1 pick next year.
We have been knocking on the door for several years now and this could finally be it...
What's interesting about this scenario is if we get the #1 pick, I don't think we can take a QB.
If Will Anderson picks up where he left off last year - terrorizing the SEC - it's probably impossible not to take him. DE is a premium position, and this guy is close to a sure thing.
Anderson seems like a immediate monster. At a premium position too.
Desperate for a QB too but have to think clearly about those player evals.
In the end, you rely on what Chris Mara says....
Quote:
Anderson has Canton written all over him. I watch too much college football for the wife's liking, but Anderson is THAT fucking good. I don't see-barring injury-he doesn't go #1. That said, I don't think we're drafting #1 because our schedule is that easy, as much as we might suck.
I tend to agree. It wouldn't shock me to see Daboll scratch out 7+ wins with this teams.
Not a chance...
Anderson seems like a immediate monster. At a premium position too.
Desperate for a QB too but have to think clearly about those player evals.
In the end, you rely on what Chris Mara says....
That was very funny.
Yet just a reminder...
Chris Mara, who is in his 20th season in his second stint with the Giants, is the team's senior player personnel executive. Mara joined the Giants as vice president of player evaluation on July 29, 2003. He was promoted in 2011 to senior vice president of player personnel and received his current tile this year. In his position, Mara evaluates both college and professional players.
Mara was instrumental in acquiring numerous players on the 2007 and 2011 Giants teams that won Super Bowls XLII and XLVI.
Quote:
Anderson seems like a immediate monster. At a premium position too.
Desperate for a QB too but have to think clearly about those player evals.
In the end, you rely on what Chris Mara says....
That was very funny.
Yet just a reminder...
Quote:
Biography
Chris Mara, who is in his 20th season in his second stint with the Giants, is the team's senior player personnel executive. Mara joined the Giants as vice president of player evaluation on July 29, 2003. He was promoted in 2011 to senior vice president of player personnel and received his current tile this year. In his position, Mara evaluates both college and professional players.
Mara was instrumental in acquiring numerous players on the 2007 and 2011 Giants teams that won Super Bowls XLII and XLVI.
Instrumental. Right up to the point he wasn’t any longer after 2011. I guess he lost his fastball too and focused on the ponies.
Scary picture btw...
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In comment 15784783 Jimmy Googs said:
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Anderson seems like a immediate monster. At a premium position too.
Desperate for a QB too but have to think clearly about those player evals.
In the end, you rely on what Chris Mara says....
That was very funny.
Yet just a reminder...
Quote:
Biography
Chris Mara, who is in his 20th season in his second stint with the Giants, is the team's senior player personnel executive. Mara joined the Giants as vice president of player evaluation on July 29, 2003. He was promoted in 2011 to senior vice president of player personnel and received his current tile this year. In his position, Mara evaluates both college and professional players.
Mara was instrumental in acquiring numerous players on the 2007 and 2011 Giants teams that won Super Bowls XLII and XLVI.
Instrumental. Right up to the point he wasn’t any longer after 2011. I guess he lost his fastball too and focused on the ponies.
Scary picture btw...
About as instrumental as Dave Gettleman was as our “director of pro personnel” from 1999-2011.
You can’t find one player quote about them playing any part in coming here during those years….