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NFT: More Mitchell news floated by Utah writers

larryflower37 : 8/18/2022 4:16 pm
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Report: Utah Jazz have received strong Donovan Mitchell trade offers from teams other than Knicks that they like ‘an awful lot’

Despite the report, the concluding message regarding a potential deal between the Knicks and Jazz is that “both teams want this deal done.”

Based on the report, it sounds like a deal could be imminent. However, there have already been moments this summer where that has been the case.

Alot of noise being floated by Utah all of this comes from checketts which is definitely connected to the front office.
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Good for Utah  
adamg : 8/18/2022 4:19 pm : link
Hope they like those deals
LEAKY LEAKY  
Anakim : 8/18/2022 4:19 pm : link
Do it then, Ainge. Calling you on your bluff.
RE: LEAKY LEAKY  
adamg : 8/18/2022 4:20 pm : link
In comment 15784512 Anakim said:
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Do it then, Ainge. Calling you on your bluff.


Seriously. Such lame shit from Utah. Just take the damn deal
RE: RE: LEAKY LEAKY  
Anakim : 8/18/2022 4:25 pm : link
In comment 15784513 adamg said:
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In comment 15784512 Anakim said:


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Do it then, Ainge. Calling you on your bluff.



Seriously. Such lame shit from Utah. Just take the damn deal


The leaked teams were the Hornets and the Wizards. A) The Hornets can't offer shit unless they include Lamelo, which they don't. B) The Wizards have Bradley Beal, who is essentially the same type of player as Mitchell.

At this point, Ainge is just a prickly, old bastard who has no real intentions of trading Mitchell.
Danny boy is getting desperate  
larryflower37 : 8/18/2022 4:25 pm : link
He has all his mouth pieces out there spreading this garbage to move the Knicks on that 6th pick.
Fuck em...Rose has played this well and I think the fanbase is behind him right until Mitchell is dealt to another team for less.
Than the torches will be lit and surrounding his house.
Come on guys, this isn't Ainge's first rodeo  
Essex : 8/18/2022 4:28 pm : link
this has to be Mitchell's camp because they are getting frustrated with Ainge. Ainge is a master at this, he is not a guy who plays games in the press.
RE: Come on guys, this isn't Ainge's first rodeo  
larryflower37 : 8/18/2022 4:33 pm : link
In comment 15784520 Essex said:
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this has to be Mitchell's camp because they are getting frustrated with Ainge. Ainge is a master at this, he is not a guy who plays games in the press.

The reporters are all connected to the front office not Mitchell's camp and are saying the info is coming from inside.
I am know Ainge walks on water but it's not above him to send out information to move the Knicks
Ho hum  
Spider43 : 8/18/2022 4:34 pm : link
Wake me when the i's are dotted and the t's crossed.
RE: RE: Come on guys, this isn't Ainge's first rodeo  
Essex : 8/18/2022 4:35 pm : link
In comment 15784529 larryflower37 said:
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this has to be Mitchell's camp because they are getting frustrated with Ainge. Ainge is a master at this, he is not a guy who plays games in the press.


The reporters are all connected to the front office not Mitchell's camp and are saying the info is coming from inside.
I am know Ainge walks on water but it's not above him to send out information to move the Knicks

You think Mitchell's camp does not know how to contact those "reporters"
RE: RE: RE: Come on guys, this isn't Ainge's first rodeo  
larryflower37 : 8/18/2022 4:50 pm : link
In comment 15784533 Essex said:
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In comment 15784529 larryflower37 said:


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this has to be Mitchell's camp because they are getting frustrated with Ainge. Ainge is a master at this, he is not a guy who plays games in the press.


The reporters are all connected to the front office not Mitchell's camp and are saying the info is coming from inside.
I am know Ainge walks on water but it's not above him to send out information to move the Knicks


You think Mitchell's camp does not know how to contact those "reporters"

Not saying that but Checketts has clearly said it's from his contacts in the front office doubt he says that if it's coming from Mitchell.
The narrative that Ainge is the greatest negotiator in the NBA is overblown.
Great sign  
Kmed6000 : 8/18/2022 4:54 pm : link
that Utah wants this done sooner rather than later. They are getting antsy!
RE: Come on guys, this isn't Ainge's first rodeo  
Kmed6000 : 8/18/2022 4:55 pm : link
In comment 15784520 Essex said:
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this has to be Mitchell's camp because they are getting frustrated with Ainge. Ainge is a master at this, he is not a guy who plays games in the press.


I completely disagree with your take. Mitchell is obviously staying out of this. This is Utah leaking reports and it's quite obvious. This is NOT Ainge's first rodeo. That's why he's asking an enormous amount and will settle for a great amount.
Mitchell and Adidas  
larryflower37 : 8/18/2022 5:01 pm : link
Promotion is all about his NY connection
The Mecca will rise.
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I saw this.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/18/2022 5:38 pm : link
It’s almost sad how obvious the Jazz are being in an attempt to make the Knicks bid against themselves. If they have such great offers, pull the fucking trigger. What are they waiting for?
Who is saying ainge is some master negotiator?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/18/2022 6:05 pm : link
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I listened to this segment. While he didn't come right out and  
Strahan91 : 8/18/2022 6:10 pm : link
say he's heard differently, you could tell that Larsen had not heard that at all. In fact he mentioned that the teams have had productive talks and there doesn't seem to be a huge gap. Just a matter finding middle ground.
Feel like Utah & Ainge have overplayed their hand  
csb : 8/18/2022 6:28 pm : link
by already professing a rebuild and getting rid of Rudy. Makes no sense to bring back Mitchell as they won't be competitive again for 3+ years and have an opportunity to accelerate the rebuild by getting a bunch of picks + young players for Mitchell.

Knicks can go into this year with their roster and they would be fine - pressure is on Utah to make a deal. I expect Utah to float false rumors about them liking other deals but believe that the fit is too strong with the Knicks not to make a deal. They are just hoping the Knicks up their offer - I hope Rose stands firm and lets the deal come to him.
if this drags into the season, it becomes possible  
Enzo : 8/18/2022 6:33 pm : link
some other star becomes available to which the Knicks can pivot. Or a team looking to rebuild and sell off vets gets interested in what the Knicks could potentially offer.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/18/2022 6:39 pm : link
I, for one, & am ready for this thing to be wrapped up one way or the other, i.e., Mitchell comes here (most likely), Mitchell stays in Utah (least likely), or Mitchell is dealt somewhere else. I like Donovan Mitchell, but this isn't Jordan circa '88 we're talking about.
RE: ...  
Chris684 : 8/18/2022 7:00 pm : link
In comment 15784625 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I, for one, & am ready for this thing to be wrapped up one way or the other, i.e., Mitchell comes here (most likely), Mitchell stays in Utah (least likely), or Mitchell is dealt somewhere else. I like Donovan Mitchell, but this isn't Jordan circa '88 we're talking about.


I agree and it might be time for the Knicks to pull their offer off the table or at least threaten to do so.

I will laugh if Ainge gets stuck with Mitchell playing there this year.
Mitchell  
TommyWiseau : 8/18/2022 7:04 pm : link
Will not be happy playing in Utah this season, he wants out and wants NY. Ainge is trying to squeeze as much as possible or at least make it seem that way so he can say to the fan base that we took the best offer by far
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larryflower37 : 8/18/2022 7:05 pm : link
In comment 15784647 Chris684 said:
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I, for one, & am ready for this thing to be wrapped up one way or the other, i.e., Mitchell comes here (most likely), Mitchell stays in Utah (least likely), or Mitchell is dealt somewhere else. I like Donovan Mitchell, but this isn't Jordan circa '88 we're talking about.



I agree and it might be time for the Knicks to pull their offer off the table or at least threaten to do so.

I will laugh if Ainge gets stuck with Mitchell playing there this year.

I think that's were we are, the Knicks have an offer out there and won't move off of it.
It would be why Utah is putting information out of other offers that they like.
Rose knows he has the best offer and is holding strong. Will it last idk but the closer to season the pressure will ramp up but the Knicks like their team and are willing to go into the season just the way they are. Is Utah willing to do the same?
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/18/2022 7:08 pm : link
Like the report that Ainge wants SIX 1sts & RJ? Like WTF? If that is true, I hope Rose is telling Ainge to go F himself. Again, I still think the most likely option is that Mitchell is a Knick, but these reports from Jazz beat guys that they have other attractive offers is Ainge trying to make Rose fold to his demands. I hope Leon stands strong. This is a big, big test for him.
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christian : 8/18/2022 7:22 pm : link
Team Mitchell could make this happen if he was dying to be a Knick. Mitchell's appearantly cool with staying in Utah, which puts Ainge in the driver's seat. The worst thing that happens to Utah is they build around a 25-year-old All Star who is a great guy, under contract for 3 more years, who has a trade kicker.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/18/2022 7:31 pm : link
christian, I think in Mitchell's heart of hearts...he wants to be a Knick. He's from Westchester County who grew up with an old man who still works for the Mets. He also probably sees the writing on the wall post Gobert: the Jazz are going nowhere in a stacked Western Conference.
Fans Are Impatient  
Samiam : 8/18/2022 7:41 pm : link
There is no reason now for Ainge to accept the Knicks offer or offers. The Knicks probably have several on the table with different combinations of players and/or draft picks. Ainge is trying to see if he could do better. Until trading camp starts or Mitchell starts complaining, there is no reason for Ainge to pull the trigger unless he gets what he wants. I think Rose is not panicking and won’t raise the offer until he thinks he’ll lose the opportunity to acquire Mitchell but that is unlikely. What I’m worried about is Dolan getting stupid and taking charge as he did with the Melo trade. This is a poker game and the Knicks seem to have the best hand.
RE: ...  
BigBlueShock : 8/18/2022 7:41 pm : link
In comment 15784676 christian said:
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Team Mitchell could make this happen if he was dying to be a Knick. Mitchell's appearantly cool with staying in Utah, which puts Ainge in the driver's seat. The worst thing that happens to Utah is they build around a 25-year-old All Star who is a great guy, under contract for 3 more years, who has a trade kicker.

Just because Mitchell has been professional enough to not make his feelings known publicly doesn’t mean it hasn’t been done in private. It’s very possible he’s simply showing respect to the team that drafted him. I’d be incredibly surprised if Mitchell was just perfectly fine staying in Utah after they gutted the team and have basically told the world that they are rebuilding. He’s simply playing good soldier, imo.
Either way  
BigBlueShock : 8/18/2022 7:48 pm : link
I’m not a conspiracy theorist at all but I can’t help think of the weirdness of this all. Reports last month were that the deal was essentially done. This came from someone in Utah, a radio guy or something and then he was told to retract. Now the NBA schedule comes out and makes it incredibly obvious that the league thinks Mitchell is headed to the Knicks. I’m probably way off base but I just can’t help but think this deal is likely done but the league wants the teams to hold off on announcing it because this nonsense is keeping the NBA in the news cycle in an otherwise dead period.
BBS.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/18/2022 7:50 pm : link
Channeling your inner Jim Garrison. Love it. 'Back & to the left. Back & to the left. Back & to the left.'

In all seriousness, the NBA schedule makers all but had Donovan as a Knick.
I'm good with the current team playing  
widmerseyebrow : 8/18/2022 7:52 pm : link
And Mitchell wrecking Utah's tank game by game until Ainge cracks.
So much of being a sports fan is projecting how you feel on players.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/18/2022 8:36 pm : link
Mitchell hasn't done *anything* to suggest he wants out.

But reading this thread, he wants out and wants NY.

Why? Where'd that come from? How do you calculate that?


He's getting paid 35 million dollars a year for the next 3 years. He's under no stress to force anything. He'll be unhappy if Utah looks to be a bad team? Lillard seems perfectly content to take monster money to play for a loser, so it is in fact possible. If he really wanted out, it would have leaked by now, everything in the NBA plays out through agent and media leaks. If his agent was under orders to get his player traded, it would be out there. It isn't.

Sometimes the most logical thing playing out in front of you is actually the most likely thing: Nothing's really happening yet. Maybe later it'll get to that point. It's probably not there yet, because it doesn't *have* to be there yet.
There have been a number of reputable reporters  
Strahan91 : 8/18/2022 8:48 pm : link
who have mentioned Mitchell wanting out. This goes back 1-2 years now. The whole “he doesn’t care either way” has come from the same couple of Utah reporters who consistently talk the team’s book.
So the Jazz have received offers  
PhilSimms15 : 8/18/2022 9:11 pm : link
they “really like.” But all sides think he ends up in NY. The deal is imminent. The deal is not imminent.

That jumble is basically what the article says.

From a distance, the Jazz really would prefer not to bring Mitchell to camp. It’s too disruptive for a new coach and young team. However, Ainge is not ready to deal Mitchell. If he was, the deal would be done.

And there is absolutely no pressure on Ainge to do a deal. His reputation is such that he can sit on any deal for months. He’s done it.

All this would end if Mitchell would just say he does not want to be part of a rebuild in Utah. No hard feelings. It’s just time to go home.

The whole he wants out  
nygiants16 : 8/18/2022 9:17 pm : link
Has been out there for a long time..

The wanting NY has been out there for awhile..

Its pretty obvious he asked out or at least mentioned he wants to be traded, the Jazz wemt from sayong they were going to retool around him to they are listening to offers in the matter of a couple of weeks..

It was also out there by Woj that Mitchell was uneasy about staying in Utah after Snyder quit
RE: So the Jazz have received offers  
nygiants16 : 8/18/2022 9:18 pm : link
In comment 15784757 PhilSimms15 said:
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they “really like.” But all sides think he ends up in NY. The deal is imminent. The deal is not imminent.

That jumble is basically what the article says.

From a distance, the Jazz really would prefer not to bring Mitchell to camp. It’s too disruptive for a new coach and young team. However, Ainge is not ready to deal Mitchell. If he was, the deal would be done.

And there is absolutely no pressure on Ainge to do a deal. His reputation is such that he can sit on any deal for months. He’s done it.

All this would end if Mitchell would just say he does not want to be part of a rebuild in Utah. No hard feelings. It’s just time to go home.


Id be shocked if Mitchell played another game for Utah, you dont negotiate in the media if you want to keep someone, its also pretty well known ainge wants to tank
I don't know man, we all think this is a foregone conclusion, that's  
Jim in Hoboken : 8/18/2022 9:27 pm : link
dangerous. We all know how the NBA hates the Knicks. We blink and the Heat gets him for Udonis Haslem and a protected 2nd round pick.
RE: The whole he wants out  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/18/2022 9:46 pm : link
In comment 15784763 nygiants16 said:
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Has been out there for a long time..

The wanting NY has been out there for awhile..

Its pretty obvious he asked out or at least mentioned he wants to be traded, the Jazz wemt from sayong they were going to retool around him to they are listening to offers in the matter of a couple of weeks..

It was also out there by Woj that Mitchell was uneasy about staying in Utah after Snyder quit


That is dot-connecting, not really definitive. When a player really doesnt want to be somewhere and the organization feels differently, it becomes known. I would even give you that you're right. He would prefer to be traded. He's sure not pressing the issue in any way that is compelling Utah to run to the table.


And coming off the maket-setting fleecing of Minnesota, they absolutely *should* have declared themselves open for business and listened to offers on their other huge trade piece. That only makes sense. They smelled money. That doesn't mean the ignition on that was a trade demand. They saw one desperate buyer and went fishing to try to bag another suckered.



Rose  
jmalls23 : 8/18/2022 9:52 pm : link
whatever happens we have a competent GM who for the first time in a long time we have leverage. draft picks, players to trade. I absolutely love this guy. I want him but man o man we are back!
RE: Come on guys, this isn't Ainge's first rodeo  
TyreeHelmet : 8/18/2022 10:12 pm : link
In comment 15784520 Essex said:
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this has to be Mitchell's camp because they are getting frustrated with Ainge. Ainge is a master at this, he is not a guy who plays games in the press.


Is this a joke? You don’t think Ainge works through the media?
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christian : 8/18/2022 10:21 pm : link
If Mitchell isn't making it hard for Ainge to deal him elsewhere, Ainge holds all the cards. No one is putting together a massive package of picks for an unhappy player. If Mitchell is willing to go spend three years elsewhere and be happy, obviously that opens up the options.

Ultimately I think he ends up a Knick because they have the ammo and I think they'll cave on Barrett. My guess is 4 1st round picks and Barrett.
Well Adidas wants him I'm NY or Miami  
larryflower37 : 8/18/2022 10:43 pm : link
And I am sure his agent does.
Why is he in Rucker park tonight hyping Mecca will rise for Adidas
Mitchell know what NY brings for him and he lives in NY in the off season.
His brand awareness triples if he get to NY or Miami his top 2 choices also Ainge can't fully tank with Mitchell on Utah, Ainge was brought in to build a championship and they don't want a 30 to 40 win team this year and Mitchell will deliver 30-35 wins
Does Fat Joe ask him  
nygiants16 : 8/18/2022 11:27 pm : link
are you coming to New York and Mitchell says yes??
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My guess is that they are very close to a deal  
PhilSimms15 : 8/19/2022 7:30 am : link
And Ainge is pushing for one last piece (a pick? Obi? Grimes?) and Knicks feel their best offer is out there and they don’t want to give up that last piece.

So either the Knicks relent and Ainge makes the deal, or Ainge relents and the Knicks make the deal, or there will be no deal.

I, for one, would love the Knicks to get Mitchell. But, it is important to note that he is a rung down from the leagues superstars (Durant, Lebron, Curry, even Chris Paul). So they cannot give up all of their assets otherwise they will be stuck in mediocrity for years.

It's in both team's interests to get it done by early september.  
Heisenberg : 8/19/2022 7:51 am : link
Utah will want to reset the narrative with their new rebuilding first time coach. Knicks will want to layout for the media the new team and the raised expectations for the season. Neither team would want it to happen too close to camp.

It makes sense that the sense of urgency is rising now. I mean, you got the idiot Stephen A popping off about it now.

I expect the deal to happen soon and it will probably be one that hurts a bit for Knicks fans. I am guessing it will feel like we're giving a little too much. Ainge is fucking good at this. Credit Rose for waiting him out, but if we've learned anything about Rose from the Brunson deal is that he's willing to pay a steep price for his guys. Feels like the deal will be a young player and some combo of 5 - 6 picks
Say we do  
TommyWiseau : 8/19/2022 8:16 am : link
Make a trade without giving up Grimes and Obi, with the roster as is how many games would you guys expect us to win? Assuming Randle can play some team ball and gets his shit together
RE: Say we do  
larryflower37 : 8/19/2022 9:03 am : link
In comment 15784910 TommyWiseau said:
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Make a trade without giving up Grimes and Obi, with the roster as is how many games would you guys expect us to win? Assuming Randle can play some team ball and gets his shit together

45-53 wins
If it alls comes together, you have 2 guys in Brunson and Mitchell that rise up for the playoffs.
If Randle is the best king Julius' and RJ continues to develop this team is tough and really deep
RE: Say we do  
Heisenberg : 8/19/2022 9:14 am : link
In comment 15784910 TommyWiseau said:
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Make a trade without giving up Grimes and Obi, with the roster as is how many games would you guys expect us to win? Assuming Randle can play some team ball and gets his shit together


I bet 45+ wins on Fanduel because I expect the Mitchell trade to go down
Just listening to Windhorst with Rich Eisen.  
bceagle05 : 8/19/2022 11:52 am : link
Word for word the exact same answers he's been giving for weeks - Mitchell's getting traded, Utah's trying to extract as much as possible from the Knicks, other suitors like Miami don't have the assets. I had to double-check it was from today because he talks with Eisen regularly, but he did reference Mitchell's recent NYC workouts/pick-up games.
RE: Just listening to Windhorst with Rich Eisen.  
Strahan91 : 8/19/2022 12:09 pm : link
In comment 15785135 bceagle05 said:
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Word for word the exact same answers he's been giving for weeks - Mitchell's getting traded, Utah's trying to extract as much as possible from the Knicks, other suitors like Miami don't have the assets. I had to double-check it was from today because he talks with Eisen regularly, but he did reference Mitchell's recent NYC workouts/pick-up games.

I guess it's a good thing that nothing has changed although who knows how old his info is
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/19/2022 6:35 pm : link
Yeah, I still think this is getting done. Just a ? of when & what the picks/players involved are.
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