Mets Lineup
Nimmo CF
Marte RF
Lindor SS
Alonso 1B
Ruf DH
Canha LF
McNeil 2B
Escobar 3B
McCann C
Bassitt SP (11-7, 3.34 ERA)
Dodgers Lineup
Betts RF
T. Turner SS
Freeman 1B
Smith C
Muncy 3B
J. Turner DH
Lux 2B
Thompson CF
Taylor LF
Kershaw SP (7-3, 2.64 ERA)
Early 4:10PM start today. Would be great to take this series. Kershaw returns today but will be on a pitch count. As mentioned last night, Devin Marrero and Medina are the 27th and 28th players added. Good mews is we are on the verge of getting back Carrasco, Megill, Drew Smith, LG, and Lucchesi which will push some of these scrubs off the roster soon. LFGM!
They might keep Gore though for his speed. We'll see.
They might keep Gore though for his speed. We'll see.
Gore needs to be up if you want him eligible to be used in the postseason
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Is because they will be easy cuts from the 40 when we have to add Megill and Lucchesi.
They might keep Gore though for his speed. We'll see.
Gore needs to be up if you want him eligible to be used in the postseason
Pretty sure they did away with that rule. Anyone can be called up in September now and be added to the postseason roster at anytime. They just have to be on the 40.
He already has experience as a reliever and I think that fastball/churve combo could work well against a string of left-handed hitters.
Peterson will also probably be in the pen soon.
The thing is, Loogy's really arent a big deal anyone with the 3 batter rule. Almost non of these guys will be in late inning, high leverage spots in the postseason IMO.
They might keep Gore though for his speed. We'll see.
Gore will likely be kept. Wouldn't see him replacing a reliever (since a starter will go to the bullpen and you have off days) on the playoff roster. He could be a valuable weapon as a PR, particularly with the Mets lack of team speed, and guys like Vogelbach clogging up the bases. He is a postseason good luck charm to boot. Dan and I were talking about him when he signed - I think he has 3 WS rings
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Is because they will be easy cuts from the 40 when we have to add Megill and Lucchesi.
They might keep Gore though for his speed. We'll see.
Gore will likely be kept. Wouldn't see him replacing a reliever (since a starter will go to the bullpen and you have off days) on the playoff roster. He could be a valuable weapon as a PR, particularly with the Mets lack of team speed, and guys like Vogelbach clogging up the bases. He is a postseason good luck charm to boot. Dan and I were talking about him when he signed - I think he has 3 WS rings
Really just depends on what they want. LG will obviously replace Marrero. So how do you get Gore on the roster when you have to cut back down from 28 to 26 in the postseason? Only way that would work is if there is an injury to somebody else. I also think the Mets might recall Perez at some point so they have a third catcher, which could also jeopardize Gore in September.
He's too wild for my tastes, but he's been MUCH better over the second half.
When he throws strikes, he's very hard to pickup from LH hitters.
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Is because they will be easy cuts from the 40 when we have to add Megill and Lucchesi.
They might keep Gore though for his speed. We'll see.
Gore will likely be kept. Wouldn't see him replacing a reliever (since a starter will go to the bullpen and you have off days) on the playoff roster. He could be a valuable weapon as a PR, particularly with the Mets lack of team speed, and guys like Vogelbach clogging up the bases. He is a postseason good luck charm to boot. Dan and I were talking about him when he signed - I think he has 3 WS rings
Really just depends on what they want. LG will obviously replace Marrero. So how do you get Gore on the roster when you have to cut back down from 28 to 26 in the postseason? Only way that would work is if there is an injury to somebody else. I also think the Mets might recall Perez at some point so they have a third catcher, which could also jeopardize Gore in September.
As I said, they will have 1 less starting pitcher than they did when they had 26 men. They go with 4 SP. The 5th SP (Walker?) goes to the BP for the postseason. A bullpen guy gets left off the playoff roster
I dont think we are in bad shape at all, but a few more things need to break right with everyone coming back.
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Is because they will be easy cuts from the 40 when we have to add Megill and Lucchesi.
They might keep Gore though for his speed. We'll see.
Gore will likely be kept. Wouldn't see him replacing a reliever (since a starter will go to the bullpen and you have off days) on the playoff roster. He could be a valuable weapon as a PR, particularly with the Mets lack of team speed, and guys like Vogelbach clogging up the bases. He is a postseason good luck charm to boot. Dan and I were talking about him when he signed - I think he has 3 WS rings
Really just depends on what they want. LG will obviously replace Marrero. So how do you get Gore on the roster when you have to cut back down from 28 to 26 in the postseason? Only way that would work is if there is an injury to somebody else. I also think the Mets might recall Perez at some point so they have a third catcher, which could also jeopardize Gore in September.
As I said, they will have 1 less starting pitcher than they did when they had 26 men. They go with 4 SP. The 5th SP (Walker?) goes to the BP for the postseason. A bullpen guy gets left off the playoff roster
Ok fine. Im agreeing he's an option. I also think he's position is EXTREMELY tenuous on this roster. Both can be true. He's no lock going forward.
His OPS at Syracuse this year is .554
He is quite clearly not a major leaguer
His OPS at Syracuse this year is .554
He is quite clearly not a major leaguer
He's fast AF. Literally, his only use is late inning pinch runner. That's it.
His OPS at Syracuse this year is .554
He is quite clearly not a major leaguer
Because he is a postseason luxury. Postseason games tend to be close games. There are plenty off of days, so you don't need 5 starters. Replace the 5th starter with a luxury like Gore.
Think the game against the Marlins earlier in July when Billy Hamilton pinch ran in the 10th as the man on 2nd and manufactured a run that a player with average speed would not have.
Mets down 2-1 in the playoffs. 8th inning. Vogelbach walks. Bottom of the order coming up. Are you waiting on 2-3 hits to get Vogelbach home? Or pinch-running a Naquin, who would still require 2 hits (or a walk and a hit to get home)? Or do you want an option of pinch-running a guy like Gore to steal a base? Maybe the throw goes into the OF. All of a sudden he's at 3B where a wild pitch or a SF could score him. Tie ball game.
His OPS at Syracuse this year is .554
He is quite clearly not a major leaguer
He's an ELITE level baserunner with ELITE level sprint speed. One of McCann/Nido/Vogelbach/Ruf get on base late, he's a major, major weapon.
then in the 9th inning Escobar led off with a single down 1. With Vogelbach up that would have been an obvious situations to try to steal 2b to get a runner in scoring position and stay out of the DP (which vogey ended up hitting into). Had gore gotten 2b instead of a DP he likely moves over to 3b with 1 out and Nimmo up to drive him in with a sac fly.
seems like a better use of a roster spot than more relievers when a guy like Trevor Williams hasnt been used in more than a week.
“Honestly, I probably could run a 4.3, 4.2-ish,” Gore said.
For perspective, the fastest 40-yard dash time at the 2019 NFL Combine was a 4.29.
“I ain’t running a 4.4,” Gore continued. “If I run a 4.4, I’m just going to retire.”
“Honestly, I probably could run a 4.3, 4.2-ish,” Gore said.
For perspective, the fastest 40-yard dash time at the 2019 NFL Combine was a 4.29.
“I ain’t running a 4.4,” Gore continued. “If I run a 4.4, I’m just going to retire.”
his sprint speed is 100th percentile.
question - does he happen to also be good defensively or literally just a one trick pony on the bases?
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Francisco Alvarez update: He has a "loose body" in his right ankle, the Mets say. He will get an injection today, and the plan is for him to resume baseball activities in 3-4 days.
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How fast is he? The 29–year-old said he hasn’t run a 40-yard dash since before he was drafted in 2011, but he has an idea.
“Honestly, I probably could run a 4.3, 4.2-ish,” Gore said.
For perspective, the fastest 40-yard dash time at the 2019 NFL Combine was a 4.29.
“I ain’t running a 4.4,” Gore continued. “If I run a 4.4, I’m just going to retire.”
his sprint speed is 100th percentile.
question - does he happen to also be good defensively or literally just a one trick pony on the bases?
He's barely played in recent years but his reputation was that of a good defensive OF with a below average arm.
Similar to GKR and keeping in tradition with the great Vin Scully, proper excitement and credit was given..
Philly and Atlanta markets don't demand this I guess, but I'm glad NY and LA do.
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The tentative plan is for him to resume baseball activities in 3-4 days. His return to play will be dictated by his response to the injection and baseball activities,
The tentative plan is for him to resume baseball activities in 3-4 days. His return to play will be dictated by his response to the injection and baseball activities,
no surgery is good news but surprising they don't just shut him down. not sure what the upside is and perez played well enough he's almost definitely ahead on the org depth chart. i assume the only reason they havent called him up yet is to just get him regular PT.
he was an obvious one and lee is probably next. they will recycle the grey 40 man spots now occuppied by Medina and Marrero for Megill and i guess Luchesi when they are ready, although they are already at the max of 14 pitchers so it's likely they will lose another pitcher beyond that too.
going to 14P with medina makes no sense. i dont know why they didnt just call up perez and give marrero grey's spot. they cant even find innings for williams right now so whats the point of medina?
it's probably better than 50-50 that medina gets DFA'd before entering a game whenever they activate Luchesi or Megill.
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At some point he'll lock in and make people pay again..but sheesh...
Been really frustrating to watch him given how bad he's been.
great eye and confident. the way the lineup sets up with him and mcneil, it's almost like he's another leadoff hitter and mcneil another #2 hitter.
so for pitchers they get through the 1-5 but then they are right back to a good top of the order. the let down is Escobar/C behind them. if they are auto-outs it defeats the purpose but if they can hit even a little bit they are going to get opportunities to do damage.
if he only played the way Baty played in his small sample of 10 games he'd have been a no brainer to recall weeks ago.
this year's braintrust rightly cut bait on Cano early but since has wasted a lot of roster spots that i worry will come back to haunt them. marrero's presence on the roster in a big game is evidence of it already.
And the Dodgers didn't miss the opportunity... that could be the difference folks
If there is one thing Mets fans can not complain about, in my opinion, for the last 20ish years... it's the quality of the broadcast.
that was 106 mph off the bat with a .550 expected batting average.
his average exit velocity this year is above his career average and his expected batting average based on contact is .238 which is right at his career average BA. his actual is more than 50 points lower.
i dont know if hes just an easy player to shift or unlucky but it would be great if they could find a way to fix that.