NFT: NHL Thread: training camp less than a week away

not sure how this got done unless Carey Price was put on LTIR (contract is 4x $3,362,500):

Canadiens Montréal
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The Canadiens have agreed to terms on a four-year contract (2022-23 to 2025-26) with forward Kirby Dach.

#GoHabsGo https://nhl.com/canadiens/news

in Nathan Beaulieu as a PTO, along with Jimmy Vesey

is veteran depth. If he wants to hold a clipboard until/if there is an injury not a bad place to do it.

someone like him is much better as the extra D than a young guy who you want to play as much as possible.

still keep an eye on MTL for a trade.

Players I could see being moved (IOW I wouldn't be surprised if one or two of them were traded - not saying all of them will be traded):
Christian Dvorak (C)
Josh Anderson (RW (can play LW))
Joel Armia (RW (can play LW))
Paul Byron (LW (can play RW))
Evgenii Dadanov (RW/LW)
Jonathan Drouin (LW - though LTIR is more likely)

Joel Edmundson (LD)
David Savard (RD)

They have too many forwards under contract. They have 13 forwards plus they need room for Fabian Zetterlund, Alexander Holtz, Nolan Foote, and possibly Tyce Thompson. Ideally they would move Johnsson, Tatar, and McLeod.

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They have too many forwards under contract. They have 13 forwards plus they need room for Fabian Zetterlund, Alexander Holtz, Nolan Foote, and possibly Tyce Thompson. Ideally they would move Johnsson, Tatar, and McLeod.

I'd love Tatar if my team were a contender - he should be movable (for value IMO)

Not ready for it yet LOL

Almost forgot how fast the turnaround feels when you get into June and your team is still playing. Crazy.

Can't wait for this season. Expecting a great one for NYR.

I jumped the gun. rookie camp next week and training camp the following week.

My apologies.

crazy to be thinking about pre-season games in less than 2 weeks..

diver.

So many teams locking up the young stars. Stutzle will now be 29 when he hits FA. Perfect for a 5+ year deal and by then (obviously only if he develops) at who knows $12+M per year.

Elliotte Friedman
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OTT announces eight-year, $8.35M AAV extension for Tim Stutzle

this.

BUF signed Tage Thompson 7 years $50M

Uconn alum.

another good signing.

lol. When I was growing up MTL was on Hockey Night in Canada every single Saturday night (or so it seemed). It's why I'm a fan.

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Kevin Weekes
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**Keep an eye 👁 on**
The Goalie market isn’t fully locked up yet, still a transaction or more to take place. @espn
@NHL
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Almost forgot how fast the turnaround feels when you get into June and your team is still playing. Crazy. Can't wait for this season. Expecting a great one for NYR.

Such a dork

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In comment 15805512 arcarsenal said: Quote: Almost forgot how fast the turnaround feels when you get into June and your team is still playing. Crazy. Can't wait for this season. Expecting a great one for NYR. Such a dork

Expecting an epic failure for the Rangers. This will be the year of NY in hockey, but it will be the Islanders who turn it around and the best goalie in NY will be Sorokin!!!

next 5 to 10 years of great goaltending in NY with Sorokin and Shesterkin. As fans we have the opportunity to watch 2 very good goalies(hopefully they stay healthy) play against each other in a rivalry that will only get better if they get to face each other in the playoffs.

This has the makings of really making hockey in NY something special. Hockey has always been the 4th sport in NY. This will be very interesting to see what happens to the popularity of the sport in NY if these 2 goalies go from very good to great by being able to win Lord Stanley for their teams.

Samsonov was the best of the young Russian goalies.

I think Askarov (still 20 years old) could be really good, but between Shesterkin and Sorokin not sure Askarov winds up even at that level.

Speaking of goalies...

Habs extended Cayden Primeau (Keith's son), 3 years, one way contract. I think this means either Price's career is likely done or they're trading Jake Allen.

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Expecting an epic failure for the Rangers. This will be the year of NY in hockey, but it will be the Islanders who turn it around and the best goalie in NY will be Sorokin!!!

🤡

Walt Ruff
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The #Canes have signed defenseman Calvin de Haan to a professional tryout (PTO).

A veteran of 520 NHL games, the 31-year-old played 74 of them with Carolina during the 2018-19 season.

and

Vancouver #Canucks
@Canucks
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Vancouver Canucks General Manager Patrik Allvin announced today that the club has signed Danny DeKeyser to a professional tryout.

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In comment 15806285 Maryland Blows said: Quote: Expecting an epic failure for the Rangers. This will be the year of NY in hockey, but it will be the Islanders who turn it around and the best goalie in NY will be Sorokin!!! 🤡

Hey Greg wonderful self portrait of yourself.

Chris Johnston
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The #leafs have signed Zach Aston-Reese to a professional tryout. There'll be lots of competition for the depth forward roles at training camp.

Complete Hockey News
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The New York Rangers have signed forward Jimmy Vesey to a professional tryout.

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lol. When I was growing up MTL was on Hockey Night in Canada every single Saturday night (or so it seemed). It's why I'm a fan. Quote: NHL News @PuckReportNHL · 13m US National TV Games for 2022/23 season, by team • 62 games on TNT • 103 games on multiple ESPN Networks: - 15 available on ABC - 36 available on ESPN - 1 available on ESPN2 - 78 available on ESPN+ - 53 available on Hulu

Well in fairness, the Habs were horrible last year and the Senators have been brutal for a couple of years now.

I know they're original 6 and have a following, but the Red Wings still get a ton of national TV exposure despite not having been to the playoffs since 2016.

the Wings and Sens are on the ascendant and will be entertaining to watch.

Stutzle is a great signing, love his game, was half hoping NYR would surprise and take him.

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the Wings and Sens are on the ascendant and will be entertaining to watch. Stutzle is a great signing, love his game, was half hoping NYR would surprise and take him.

Agree. Sens are my darkhorse pick to make the playoffs. I'm done with Buffalo, lol.

And agree on Stutzle. I love how Gallagher calls out his diving bullshit. Even if it is gamesmanship by Gallagher.

Sens are going to be good, Andy should be excited.

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lol. When I was growing up MTL was on Hockey Night in Canada every single Saturday night (or so it seemed). It's why I'm a fan. Quote: NHL News @PuckReportNHL · 13m US National TV Games for 2022/23 season, by team • 62 games on TNT • 103 games on multiple ESPN Networks: - 15 available on ABC - 36 available on ESPN - 1 available on ESPN2 - 78 available on ESPN+ - 53 available on Hulu

Hockey Night in Canada has nothing to do with United States national broadcasts. I grew up 10 minutes from the Canadian border, an hour south of Montreal. We got the Canadians every Saturday night on CBC Channel 6 Hockey Night in Canada

to ANA on a PTO

Elliotte Friedman
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Hearing Mikey Anderson and LA getting close on a one-year contract. Good player, one of the remaining unsigned young D.

They made this off season. The barometer is pointing up for the Wings too. I think the Devs improved but goaltending remains a big question mark. Overall the bottom of the East is definitely improved. A fringe playoff team like Washington last year is no lock to make it back.

is the area the sens need to address too.

Talbot is ok, but I don't see him as the #1 on a contender.

it seems like there are just so few sure fire #1 goalies around the league right now.

Same with BUF, as much as like the way their roster is shaping up, can you really expect a team with Eric Comrie as their #1 to be a contender? And 41 year old Craig Anderson as the backup. Comrie could turn out to be really good, but he's made 24 starts and he's 27 years old. I don't consider Malcolm Subban an option either or Ben Bishop who is I believe just LTIR.

DET is different, because I do consider Husso and Nedeljkovic a good tandem and I like a lot of DET's recent moves too.

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is the area the sens need to address too. Talbot is ok, but I don't see him as the #1 on a contender. it seems like there are just so few sure fire #1 goalies around the league right now. Same with BUF, as much as like the way their roster is shaping up, can you really expect a team with Eric Comrie as their #1 to be a contender? And 41 year old Craig Anderson as the backup. Comrie could turn out to be really good, but he's made 24 starts and he's 27 years old. I don't consider Malcolm Subban an option either or Ben Bishop who is I believe just LTIR. DET is different, because I do consider Husso and Nedeljkovic a good tandem and I like a lot of DET's recent moves too.

Yeah that's the one area where the Devs could have a possible up on the Sens with Blackwood. He has #1 upside potential if he can stay healthy.

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it seems like there are just so few sure fire #1 goalies around the league right now. Same with BUF, as much as like the way their roster is shaping up, can you really expect a team with Eric Comrie as their #1 to be a contender? And 41 year old Craig Anderson as the backup. Comrie could turn out to be really good, but he's made 24 starts and he's 27 years old. I don't consider Malcolm Subban an option either or Ben Bishop who is I believe just LTIR.

Buffalo definitely has questions in net but I wouldn't sleep on Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen. That kid has talent and I could see him winning the starting spot at some point this season.

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They made this off season. The barometer is pointing up for the Wings too. I think the Devs improved but goaltending remains a big question mark. Overall the bottom of the East is definitely improved. A fringe playoff team like Washington last year is no lock to make it back.

Once again goaltending and coaching will be what decides the Devils fate. If Blackwood is fully recovered, he came back way too early last season, and he can just stay healthy then the Devils should have a solid duo with Vanecek as the 1B.

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In comment 15808404 pjcas18 said: Quote: it seems like there are just so few sure fire #1 goalies around the league right now. Same with BUF, as much as like the way their roster is shaping up, can you really expect a team with Eric Comrie as their #1 to be a contender? And 41 year old Craig Anderson as the backup. Comrie could turn out to be really good, but he's made 24 starts and he's 27 years old. I don't consider Malcolm Subban an option either or Ben Bishop who is I believe just LTIR. Buffalo definitely has questions in net but I wouldn't sleep on Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen. That kid has talent and I could see him winning the starting spot at some point this season.

I was surprised he didn't already win it, so thought his career must have stalled. In the U18's he out dueled Woll in the semis vs a pretty loaded USA team and eventually led the Fins to the gold and the US handed Canada their worst U18 loss in the bronze game.

MTL named Nick Suzuki captain

Good for him, I really like Suzuki.

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Good for him, I really like Suzuki.

same here, but being a captain in MTL at 23 years old is not easy.

I hope it doesn't take focus off his game, I don't think it will, but the knives come out pretty quickly in MTL when things don't go well.

with Gallagher and Edmundson.

The Hockey Writers
@TheHockeyWriter
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Colorado Avalanche Sign Evan Rodrigues to 1-Year Contract

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
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Hearing a Jordan Kyrou extension is nearing in STL. Not sure of exact terms, but sounds somewhat similar to extension Robert Thomas signed earlier in summer (8x$8.125M)

signings...

New Jersey Devils
@NJDevils
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We have signed defenseman Thomas Hickey to a PTO.

Hickey will report to training camp on September 21.

He's washed, but he carved out a nice career for himself as a 3rd pair guy. Had some good years with Visnovsky. Trotz had no use for him, but he was a good soldier and said/did the right things. endured personal tragedy in recent years with his brothers cancer battle.

Complete Hockey News
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The Seattle Kraken have signed forward Daniel Sprong to a professional tryout.

fans on here (at least Andy is a sens fan) so maybe if people want to watch the rookie games vs MTL you can.

Priyanta Emrith
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All 3 of the #Habs' games during the rookie tournament in Buffalo will be streamed on the team's digital platforms (website, Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube):

- Thurs, Sept 15 vs. Buffalo at 7pm ET

- Fri, Sept 16 vs. New Jersey at 7pm ET

- Sun, Sept 18 vs. Ottawa at 12pm ET

Rick Dhaliwal
@DhaliwalSports
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Tyler Motte to Ottawa on a 1 year deal.

no pun intended, if Hutson has a growth spurt. He was already oozing skill, but his lack of size, especially for a D, would be ground breaking (I think). at 5'9 or 10 he's just small.

Jared Book
@jaredbook
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Lane Hutson, the Canadiens' second-round pick, who was listed at 5'8" at the NHL Draft and Development Camp is up to 5'9" per Boston University.

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Rick Dhaliwal @DhaliwalSports · 53s Tyler Motte to Ottawa on a 1 year deal.

Shit like this is why I hate the Goodrow deal. Motte on a 2 or 3 year deal is better value than Goodrow IMO.

Goodrow - bigger than most Rangers fans, but I agree Brett. And it's less about Goodrow more about how close the Rangers are not anymore to being a contender, but to being a favorite.

That money is better spent elsewhere.

I can admit if I'm wrong and in the case of Goodrow I was. Well Drury really was wrong, but I supported the signing.

Now, I hope Goodrow proves us both wrong (which would make me initially correct and I'll take it, lol)

I hated the deal at the time but liked Goodrow more as a player than I expected. Goodrow is the better player obviously. I think Rangers fans underrate him (and Trouba... and Miller).

But the extra flexibility outweighs the differential between the two, IMO.

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I hated the deal at the time but liked Goodrow more as a player than I expected. Goodrow is the better player obviously. I think Rangers fans underrate him (and Trouba... and Miller). But the extra flexibility outweighs the differential between the two, IMO.

Agree. for the money to Goodrow the Rangers probably could have signed Motte and a veteran top 6 D.

Better value

Also would have made it possible to give Lafreniere or Miller a longer-term deal after next season.

Ryan Reaves will make $1.75M next season. Great use of resources!

This has been the one constant through two decades of Rangers hockey - overpaying bottom 6 role players. They do this all the damned times.

to the RFAs that don't sign before the season starts. Do they become UFA? Do they have to sit?

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to the RFAs that don't sign before the season starts. Do they become UFA? Do they have to sit?

Not sure, I guess they can sign the QO or just "hold out"

It would be awesome though if Jason Robertson became a UFA.

There are only 9 RFA's left unsigned.

James Nichols
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#NJDevils sign Zach Senyshyn to a PTO.

is part of the infamous back to back to back Bruins picks in the 2015 NHL draft 1st round that basically all flamed out (deBrusk hasn't really but he hasn't lived up to his draft status though either).

Zboril, deBrusk, and Senyshyn.

you can second guess any draft pick, but those three received a ton of scrutiny because in the immediate picks after were Barzal, Connor, Chabot, Colin White, Samsonov, Boeser, Konecny, etc.

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to the RFAs that don't sign before the season starts. Do they become UFA? Do they have to sit?

Like pj said, they can continue to holdout, but they don't become UFA's. Their status remains the same and they can sign at any time - until Dec 1, by which point if they haven't signed they're ineligible to play that season. (William Nylander avoided this at the last moment in 2018, holding out until reaching a long term deal on Dec 1). As far as I know, their restricted status simply continues into future seasons, at least until they hit 27 and age into unrestricted free agency (or the team rescinds the QO). If they're content to play in Europe (or just sit around), I guess in theory that QO could just sit out there for a few years, but you'd have to be pretty unhappy with your team to let it get that point. I don't think anyone else has even gone as long as Nylander did.

games begin today, most are streamed, good stuff if you are into this kind of thing, but low production quality.

Basically kind of watching live barn with announcers (some teams don't even have a broadcast crew/announcers).

Biggest thing I noticed about the Habs is Slafkovsky is 237 pounds. Holy shit.

6'3" 237 pounds as an 18 year old.

Despite no longer qualifying as a rookie, he opted to attend rookie camp anyway. Really like this kid and think he should be on the big club this season.
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hit or not?
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Not.

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Despite no longer qualifying as a rookie, he opted to attend rookie camp anyway. Really like this kid and think he should be on the big club this season. Link - ( New Window )

I thought he played well next year. He's not going to be a star but think he's solid. Also wouldn't mind Robertson and him splitting time.

Hajek absolutely sucks - he shouldn't be on the roster.

I think Lundkvist is making a mistake not coming over. Schneider is not so entrenched he can't be beat - plus you always get injuries.

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Not.

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Clean. The puck carrier bears responsibility. Skating into the slot with your head down is on you.

looked pretty text book to me, ref put his arm up right away because of the result.

I hate that.

Penalize a kid for a good hockey play because the other person was reckless.

John Matisz
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Nathan MacKinnon, speaking at the NHL Player Media Tour, says his extension with the Avalanche is “pretty close” and he’s hoping it’ll get done “soon.” As for AAV, it will be “fair” but “not going to be a single digit.”

Complete Hockey News
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The Winnipeg Jets have stripped forward Blake Wheeler of his captaincy.

The Jets will not have a captain to start the season.

I hate the no captain bullshit. I don't remember this until the Rangers started doing this bullshit (maybe I don't remember).

Stripping the captaincy seems like a big deal, though. Wheeler to the Rangers for Hajek, pls.

I meant maybe my memory is off.

Old age. :(

I think you need a captain.

It's a necessity IMO. I don't put that much stock into things like chemistry but hockey is a sport where you need everyone in the locker room 100% bought in on the system. And coaches cannot influence it enough on their own IMO.

When you read about players tuning out coaches or no longer buying in to a system to me it starts with the captain (and the coach who failed to adjust).

On a non-contender it should be a goal to pick the captain who will help lead the team into becoming a contender, so I get not having a captain for a brief time, but there should always be a goal to name one IMO.

And a bunch of A's is not the same thing. If you have 5 captains you have no captain (and only three players can wear letters in a given game I believe anyway)

One thing I thought was very interesting. Nick Suzuki and Cole Caufield were being interviewed and they asked them if Juraj Slafkovský would be their linemate. Cole laughed and basically said I'll let the coach make that decision, but said nice things about Slaf.

Suzuki said he would have a say in it. If true, that is f-ing awesome IMO and to me that is what you do if you want to win the locker room (not that Martin St. Louis needs help, but that helps)

I agree, it matters less if your team is going to suck.

I couldn't stand the idea that one of the 85 Rangers assistant captains would need to be handed the Cup. It was dumb.

You need a bridge between coach and players, which the captain should do. The books on the '94 Rangers detail how important Messier was for that season. I'm sure there are other examples.

battle in the habs vs sens @ the prospect challenge.

Xhekaj is a big dude. I think he could make the team.
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Complete Hockey News
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The New York Rangers have signed defenceman Matt Bartkowski to a professional tryout

Article from The Athletic last month on the best players/prospects under 23.

Lafreniere #10
Miller #43
Kakko #48
Schneider #79
Lundkvist #91
Othman #98
Jones #100

Slafkovsky #15
Caufield #30
Dach #43

I'd have Caufield and Miller higher. I also disagree with the writer saying Lafreniere's skating is below average.
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Article from The Athletic last month on the best players/prospects under 23. Lafreniere #10 Miller #43 Kakko #48 Schneider #79 Lundkvist #91 Othman #98 Jones #100 Slafkovsky #15 Caufield #30 Dach #43 I'd have Caufield and Miller higher. I also disagree with the writer saying Lafreniere's skating is below average. The Athletic - ( New Window )

How is Spencer Knight still 20? lol. Seems like he's been around for 5 years.

The main one who stuck out to me as off is Jiricek. He should be or will be higher. He's awesome.

Calgary Flames
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#Flames Roster Update: Forward Sonny Milano has been signed to a PTO.

Rick Dhaliwal
@DhaliwalSports
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Elliotte Friedman on Bo Horvat contract : It is not close, not progressing. Some people think it will be in the 6's, I do not believe that, in the very least in the 7's.

Complete Hockey News
@CompleteHkyNews
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It is unlikely that Vegas Golden Knights forward Nolan Patrick will play this season, per Elliotte Friedman.

Flyers could be in the Connor Bedard sweepstakes.

Anthony SanFilippo
@AntSanPhilly
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I've been told that @NHLFlyers center Sean Couturier has a herniated disc in his back that could cost him several months, if not the whole season. I have a story coming very shortly. @NHL.

who played on a team I hate, but I grew to respect (even with him committing a crime against Pacioretty, lol)

Hall of fame?

NHL News
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NEWS: Zdeno Chara has announced his retirement, via his Instagram.

He played in 1,680 regular season games and 200 playoff games throughout his 25 season NHL career, winning a Stanley Cup in 2011 with the Boston Bruins.

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Hall of fame?

Lol

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so that's a no? lol.

I don't know how voters vote. He's a 7 time AS, 1 time cup winner (and captain of the team), and 1 time Norris winner,

I don't know how that stacks up against other D in the HOF.

Sergei Zubov is in the HOF.

So, while Chara is clearly no Ray Bourque or Paul Coffey but I wouldn't argue with anyone who has him in Zubov's class.

I'm laughing at the question

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I'm laughing at the question

ok, I feel better with that. Sometimes I think HOF but then you look at the stats or accolades and that don't match the perception. Chara's career clearly does.

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who played on a team I hate, but I grew to respect (even with him committing a crime against Pacioretty, lol) Hall of fame? NHL News @PuckReportNHL · 4m NEWS: Zdeno Chara has announced his retirement, via his Instagram. He played in 1,680 regular season games and 200 playoff games throughout his 25 season NHL career, winning a Stanley Cup in 2011 with the Boston Bruins.

PK Subban also retired today!

didn't expect this. man, his career fell off dramatically.

I remember when NSH fans thought they won the Subban for Weber trade. lol.

NHL News
@PuckReportNHL
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NEWS: PK Subban has retired from professional hockey at the age of 33.

He played 834 NHL games from 2009 to 2022 with #Habs, #Preds, and #NJDevils, recording 467 points. He won the Norris Trophy in 2013 and King Clancy Trophy in 2022.

All that slew footing was because he can't pivot anymore. Defenseman are aging out faster then ever.

Keith Yandle


So three defensemen: a former Ranger, a former Islander and a former Devil all retired today

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I'm laughing at the question

Easily HOF player.

to me than a true superstar HOF guy, but I don't really have a problem with him making it (which he will). That kind of longevity is awfully impressive in its own right.

extension done.

he becomes the NHLs highest plaid player. 8x12.6M

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
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MacKinnon AAV is $12.6M

highest paid, though he could drape himself in plaid now if he wanted to.

Is an absolute lock to make the HOF. Zero debate

I saw this tweet. I haven't fact checked it, but I believe it to be true and it's hilarious.

Barry Petchesky
@barry
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Now there are no active NHL players who have lost a playoff series to the Maple Leafs

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I saw this tweet. I haven't fact checked it, but I believe it to be true and it's hilarious. Barry Petchesky @barry · 4h Now there are no active NHL players who have lost a playoff series to the Maple Leafs

Did Spezza retire already? He is the only other possibility.

is currently working in the Leafs FO

Tyler Seguin, Bergeron, Kessel, one of those older Bruins or former Bruins.

Both Chara and Spezza were on that team.

in the Yakupov draft (2012). Good to see him still in the league after a decade, but he obviously did not live up to his draft status.

Even still, he's 3rd from his draft class in goals (after Forsberg and Hertl), 5th in points and 3rd in games played

JFresh
@JFreshHockey
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The Avalanche have signed Alex Galchenyuk to a PTO

there are just 7 RFA's left.

Jason Robertson (DAL)
Rasmus Sandin (TOR)
Ryan McLeod (EDM)
Alex Formenton (OTT)
Nicolas Hague (LVG)
Adam Ruzicka (CAL)
Parker Wotherspoon (NYI)

Complete Hockey News
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The Arizona Coyotes have re-signed forward Barrett Hayton to a two-year, $3.5 million contract with an AAV of $1.75 million.

guy or a pack rat, but....for some reason I save every business card I ever got. Don't get them as much anymore with social media and QR scans, etc. but I had thousands and I was throwing them out recently when I was cleaning out my desk and I found this in there with them.

The absolute most boring event of my life. Other than getting to see the Stanley Cup up close, I'd rather be in economics class sophomore year of college. that's how boring the draft was.

Islanders had 10(!!) guys picked in the top 60 at one point or another. All of them were garbage except Scatchard who was a good 3rd line center. The Milbury wilderness years ugh.

I can't imagine attending a draft. What is fun about hearing names read live?

I didn't know what to expect, but I didn't think it would be that dreadfully boring.

It was my first job out of college and my boss was a Whalers season ticket holder and thought he was doing me a solid by giving me his free draft tickets.

I felt obligated to go.

Only cool thing was I took my dad, and while he was equally as bored as me, we got to see the Stanley Cup.

Nothing beats seeing it in Toronto in that cathedral / stain glass area at the Hhof. That's a really cool room. The other half that's downstairs in a mall is embarrassing.

I got to be up close in the summer of 94. My buddy's neighbor was a video assistant for the Rags and had the Cup in his backyard. A mixed blessing to be sure, but it was crazy to see it in a plain old long Island backyard.

once at the hockey hall of fame, once at a charity event (where I met McAvoy, Grzelcyk, Krug, Gronk and a few more Boston sports stars), once at Fenway after the Bruins won, but that first time, I could have spent hours just trying to read all the names, etc.

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Islanders had 10(!!) guys picked in the top 60 at one point or another. All of them were garbage except Scatchard who was a good 3rd line center. The Milbury wilderness years ugh. I can't imagine attending a draft. What is fun about hearing names read live?

The 1996 draft was atrocious.

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In comment 15827221 Diversify yo bonds said: Quote: Islanders had 10(!!) guys picked in the top 60 at one point or another. All of them were garbage except Scatchard who was a good 3rd line center. The Milbury wilderness years ugh. I can't imagine attending a draft. What is fun about hearing names read live? The 1996 draft was atrocious.

Truly awful. '99 is a shit show also.

They bring it, along with all the other awards trophies and set them up for display at a location off site in each city during the finals. PJ that's a good point about the names. I'd love to see it again, because back then there were no Devil's names on it. DYOB I visited the old site for the hockey HOF in Toronto back in the 80's. I'd love to go again because from what I hear it another level from the old one. The old one was a joke. It was some tiny building with a couple of small rooms by the old Exhibition Stadium where the Jays played

I never played organized hockey. I've watched practices and seen various battle drills. I've never seen this setup. Is this common? What is the purpose of having the goalies there?
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that's almost all we do anymore. Small area battle drills. They combine so many fundamentals the kids don't even realize all the things they are working on during the drill.

The best ones are what we call progressive, where it starts 1 on 1 but once you get control of the puck you pass to a teammate on your side and they join the battle and it becomes 2 on 1 and the rules vary but often for us you can't shoot on net until you get 3 on your side. We have so many variations of battle drills.

having goalies is important because shooting at an empty net is useless, and because of the small area goalies need to pay constant attention because the contest can turn quickly and result in a shot on net.

I'd say some days 75% of our practice plan now is small area battles.

That first round, other than the Sedins, is just atrocious. Stefan was an all-timer bust at #1. Pavel Brendl at #4. The only player besides the twins to crack even 500 points was Martin Havlat. After him was Tim Connelly with 431 points, #5 on the list is Taylor Pyatt. Seriously.

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That first round, other than the Sedins, is just atrocious. Stefan was an all-timer bust at #1. Pavel Brendl at #4. The only player besides the twins to crack even 500 points was Martin Havlat. After him was Tim Connelly with 431 points, #5 on the list is Taylor Pyatt. Seriously.

Wow, never would have guessed that top 5.

Pyatt is a perfect example of the size/speed power forward overdraft trap. Teams always do this. "He's big and fast, the skill will develop."

He did carve out a solid career as a checker.

That was a barren draft. Connolly was destroyed by concussions and Havlat could never stay healthy.

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Thanks Pj, good to know

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I used to play goalie and when I first started playing ice hockey they did drills like this.

draft wasn't that bad as a complete body of work....except if you consider the drafts best player, Daniel Alfredsson, was drafted in the 6th round, or the next best player, Chara, was taken late 2nd.

Other notables:

Milan Hejduk (4th round)
Chris Drury (3rd round)

Of the top 7 leading scorers from that draft, 1 was a 1st round pick (Ryan Smith)

two of the top 13 scorers in that draft were from the 10th round. The draft, that boring ass event, had 11 rounds back then.

coming off a season where they set injury records....

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- Joel Edmundson out indefinitely (lower-body)

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In comment 15827419 Greg from LI said: Quote: That first round, other than the Sedins, is just atrocious. Stefan was an all-timer bust at #1. Pavel Brendl at #4. The only player besides the twins to crack even 500 points was Martin Havlat. After him was Tim Connelly with 431 points, #5 on the list is Taylor Pyatt. Seriously. Wow, never would have guessed that top 5. Pyatt is a perfect example of the size/speed power forward overdraft trap. Teams always do this. "He's big and fast, the skill will develop." He did carve out a solid career as a checker. That was a barren draft. Connolly was destroyed by concussions and Havlat could never stay healthy.

Just to clarify, they weren't the top five picks. They were the top five scorers out of that first round.

There were a few good players in the later rounds - Henrik Zetterberg, Radim Vrbata, Ryan Miller, Martin Erat. Craig Anderson somehow is still playing.

tough break. Kid has/had talent, one thing after another.

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tough break. Kid has/had talent, one thing after another. Jesse Granger @JesseGranger_ · 24m Kelly McCrimmon announces Nolan Patrick will not play this season.

Neither will Ryan Ellis. Cody Glass is an AHLer. Just a zero for all teams involved in that trade

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Vegas wanted to include Glass instead of Suzuki in the Pacioretty trade. Glad that Bergevin held firm for Suzuki.

Both expected


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“Michkov may be the second-best prospect in the entire draft, maybe even the best, and given his contract status, I’m not even sure he’ll be taken in the top five picks in June,” said another NHL scout. “It’s a really talented draft class. If you’re picking in the top five, and the choice is between a gifted Russian who you have to wait on for three or more years and a gifted prospect who’s available to you right away…it’s going to be intriguing to see how it all plays out [for Michkov].”

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less and less about Bedard's size. I think he could be the best #1 since McDavid.

Every night it's another highlight reel, his shot is unreal. his vision incredible, and he has better moves than anyone I can remember not named Datsyuk. I hope the Habs got a good player with Slafkovsky but I know whoever gets Bedard is getting the proverbial "generational" talent.

last weekend.

I only saw highlights from last night, but among them Cole Caufield and Matty Beniers snipes, a K'Andre Miller shortie, Barkov GW, some good stuff.

Good to have hockey back

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The Athletic Rangers preview. I think this is a pretty stupid piece, actually. What's the point of a model if it's not going to predict player development?
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He played 1 game, 16:59 TOI, 1 shot, 3 hits, & 4 blocks.

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story, after a win in his first or second season, Zucc and the Rangers were celebrating and saw the door was open to the Knicks locker room. Zucc puts on Carmello Anthony's jersey shorts and shoes and dribbles a basketball (that visual is hilarious), Torts walks in sees what is going on and says "take that gear with you back to Hartford" and it was real, lol, Zucc was sent back to Hartford.


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Quinn got robbed.

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but I became a Phil Kessel fan, lol. I play men's league with someone who looks like Kessel (I think everyone has a men's league teammate who looks like this).

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Please don't post videos of me without my permission.

Kessel looks terrible for his age, Jesus.

Is Kessel a HOF'er?

I think he is. I also think he got robbed of a Conn Smythe.

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Is Kessel a HOF'er? I think he is. I also think he got robbed of a Conn Smythe.

I think he's borderline but he gets in, on top of his two rings he will retire as the NHL iron man.

He was a consistently underrated player

put on a clinic last night in the VHL.

I love Connor Bedard, but between he and Michkov it is probably the best 1/2 since McDavid/Eichel.

Also, I watched some of the Habs Leafs pre-season game - Slafkovsky can play. Holy shit he's a big boy for 18.

Rangers are skating with Jimmy Vesey at first line RW. Lulzzzzz

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Rangers are skating with Jimmy Vesey at first line RW. Lulzzzzz

Please bash my skull in.

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put on a clinic last night in the VHL. I love Connor Bedard, but between he and Michkov it is probably the best 1/2 since McDavid/Eichel. Also, I watched some of the Habs Leafs pre-season game - Slafkovsky can play. Holy shit he's a big boy for 18.

I posted an article (maybe in this thread?) about Michkov maybe slipping due to his contract situation.

Why is he in the VHL?

8 year deal. im shocked. im just used to players like him leaving
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LGI!

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In comment 15845388 pjcas18 said: Quote: put on a clinic last night in the VHL. I love Connor Bedard, but between he and Michkov it is probably the best 1/2 since McDavid/Eichel. Also, I watched some of the Habs Leafs pre-season game - Slafkovsky can play. Holy shit he's a big boy for 18. I posted an article (maybe in this thread?) about Michkov maybe slipping due to his contract situation. Why is he in the VHL?

He will be in the KHL this year - SKA St. Petersburg, he played a couple dozen games last year, but he's 18, so he they'll let him get his legs and he will eventually be up this year.

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Wow, good news for the NYI...

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I am beginning to understand why Gallant quickly wears out his welcome. The things he's been doing this training camp are so mindless. Keeping Reaves in the lineup. Hajek still hanging around long after he's proven that he does not belong in the NHL. Blais on the top line. Vesey on the top line, or Vesey on the roster at all in the first place. Goodrow on the top line.

Just so many things making me shake my head.

Coaches all have their pluses and minuses, but generally there are a few things that really matter (which are all related to degrees, obviously):

1) System. The NHL doesn't have a huge variety of systems and every player can play in each system, unlike the NFL where someone might be great in a 3-4 vs. 4-3. We saw a big benefit when we moved from Torts to AV and I think we saw a benefit from Quinn to Gallant. I think Gallant is good here. I think Miller was helped.

2) Player development. Are players developing the appropriate skills? This is harder for a team like the Rangers that is competing while having top prospects in Kakko / Lafreniere. I think both have turned into solid defensive players (although Kakko got there under Quinn). Miller has made huge strides.

3) Player usage. I think Gallant sucks here way too often. I think him and Drury like the same type of player (big and physical). You pointed out Reaves and Hajek. Another example that pisses me off was the usage of the kid line in the playoffs. Game 1 of the ECF when they dominated got Kakko and Laf 12 minutes and Chytil 14. Game 2 Kakko got <10, Laf 11, Chytil 12. It was really inexcusable. The advances stats show they were the best line, the eyes showed they were the best line, the production showed it. And then Kakko gets benched in game seven. It's ridiculous.

4) In-game X's and O's / tactics. Gallant seems fine here but was getting beat by Sullivan in round one and at times against TB. I've seen other fans bitch about this more but not sure I think it's as big of a deal as others think.

Lastly, people kept crediting Gallant for last season - the biggest difference was Shesterkin having the best season for a goalie since Price's MVP season. Gallant was an upgrade over Quinn but I think it's been overstated. His weaknesses are starting to show.

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Coaches all have their pluses and minuses, but generally there are a few things that really matter (which are all related to degrees, obviously): 1) System. The NHL doesn't have a huge variety of systems and every player can play in each system, unlike the NFL where someone might be great in a 3-4 vs. 4-3. We saw a big benefit when we moved from Torts to AV and I think we saw a benefit from Quinn to Gallant. I think Gallant is good here. I think Miller was helped. 2) Player development. Are players developing the appropriate skills? This is harder for a team like the Rangers that is competing while having top prospects in Kakko / Lafreniere. I think both have turned into solid defensive players (although Kakko got there under Quinn). Miller has made huge strides. 3) Player usage. I think Gallant sucks here way too often. I think him and Drury like the same type of player (big and physical). You pointed out Reaves and Hajek. Another example that pisses me off was the usage of the kid line in the playoffs. Game 1 of the ECF when they dominated got Kakko and Laf 12 minutes and Chytil 14. Game 2 Kakko got <10, Laf 11, Chytil 12. It was really inexcusable. The advances stats show they were the best line, the eyes showed they were the best line, the production showed it. And then Kakko gets benched in game seven. It's ridiculous. 4) In-game X's and O's / tactics. Gallant seems fine here but was getting beat by Sullivan in round one and at times against TB. I've seen other fans bitch about this more but not sure I think it's as big of a deal as others think. Lastly, people kept crediting Gallant for last season - the biggest difference was Shesterkin having the best season for a goalie since Price's MVP season. Gallant was an upgrade over Quinn but I think it's been overstated. His weaknesses are starting to show.

This is a great post. I agree with every word.

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Also, I watched some of the Habs Leafs pre-season game - Slafkovsky can play. Holy shit he's a big boy for 18.

Re Habs, Xhekaj is fierce. I'm rooting for him to make it. Fun to watch a dying breed.

really exciting that he's basically got this team locked up for the foreseeable future and now they actually have some breathing room with the cap.

I have no idea if Patrick Kane would waive to go there, but that's a move they should have already told Kyle Davidson to call them whenever he's ready. I assume if they can get off to a good start that would help their chances of him waiving.

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He and Slafkovsky are the same exact size. I only mention that because when I first saw Xhekaj I thought that is a big dude, for a D.

I was then most surprised at how well Xhekaj moved for someone his size. I think he could stick in MTL. And of course he is as physical as they come, so they wouldn't rely on his offense, but nice to know he's not a black hole.

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really exciting that he's basically got this team locked up for the foreseeable future and now they actually have some breathing room with the cap. I have no idea if Patrick Kane would waive to go there, but that's a move they should have already told Kyle Davidson to call them whenever he's ready. I assume if they can get off to a good start that would help their chances of him waiving.

Kane will be a Ranger. Zero doubt in my mind. We've seen this movie countless times. He has control of where he goes and he over the top gushes about how much he loves playing with Panarin. Called it the most fun he had playing hockey.

is still *just* 34 years old (turns 34 in November) and coming off a better than ppg pace.

I'd give up a reasonable asking price for him.

The problem for a team like the Rangers would be his salary and the more CHI keeps the better the prospect/players/picks they'd need to trade. I could see something like Kakko and a 1st if CHI eats all the salary.

Both Kane and Toews should be dealt - in the final year of their deals.

and both have full NMC.

I don't see how CHI justifies keeping either one after trading away 24-year old DeBrincat.

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is still *just* 34 years old (turns 34 in November) and coming off a better than ppg pace. I'd give up a reasonable asking price for him. The problem for a team like the Rangers would be his salary and the more CHI keeps the better the prospect/players/picks they'd need to trade. I could see something like Kakko and a 1st if CHI eats all the salary. Both Kane and Toews should be dealt - in the final year of their deals. and both have full NMC. I don't see how CHI justifies keeping either one after trading away 24-year old DeBrincat.

I think the Rangers are going to do something like that but I don't want them to.

Gallant pretty clearly doesn't love Kakko. I could definitely see it happening.

Maybe it would work out beautifully and Kane and Panarin would light it up, but that would be a major win-now kind of move. Win it all or it's a big mistake.

I'd love to see Kane, Panarin and Mika/Trocheck


This is big news - top 10 prospect who had off-ice "issues" and asked teams not to draft him, but of course Bergevin does in the 1st round to massive blowback from activists and even some fans. Rumor was they just planned to quietly cut him, but who knows, maybe he gets a shot at redemption.

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for doing something rotten as a 17 year old is repulsive to me.

"Activist" has become a word that makes me want to spit.

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for doing something rotten as a 17 year old is repulsive to me. "Activist" has become a word that makes me want to spit.

agree.

In an ideal world, that girl would have brothers who would have dragged Mailloux into an alley and kicked his ass (which is easier said than done because that kid is huge), and that would be the end of it.

a shitty thing to do, and Mailloux should without question pay a price for his actions.

But is the appropriate price a career death sentence?

some Jason Robertson movement soon.

I think the Barzal contract got the Stars to budge (JMO).

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Robertson (DAL), Formenton (OTT) and Hague (VGK)

2/4 USA Today writers pick the Rangers to win the Cup.
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Rangers went to the conference finals with a formula that given health should be repeatable (IOW not a fluke or a lightning in a bottle scenario and not an old veteran laden team just waiting for father time to creep in)

add in the incremental improvements (Trocheck over Strome), Kravtsov over anyone they had there, Jones added to the mix on D, etc. I think the Rangers will be a lot of people's picks to win it all.

He's a great goalie but that kind of play is going to be hard to duplicate.

There must be someone on the waiver wire more suited for the #1 RW than Vesey. Sonny Milano? And Vesey has earned a contract here. He has. But THE TOP LINE!?!?

Rangers also have a lot of young players poised to take big steps - Miller and Lafreniere in particular.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Rangers have a worse record but better team. I don't know if we can count on Shesterkin being THAT good and I expect the Islanders and Devils to be better this year. Plus I think we had some injury luck last year.

Kreider may not put up 53 again (or whatever it was) and Igor may not be a Hart candidate, but the floor there should be good enough across the board that being a legit contender is expected.

After that you need things to break right to win, but even last year other than Kreider and Igor did anyone have an outlier year and I'm not even sure Igor's year was an outlier - maybe better than what will be his norm, but not by much IMO.

which leaves a hole on 1st line RW and they didnt have cap space this summer to acquire a #1 RW

So now its wait until cap space accrues to fit a guy like Kane into the cap and make the deal

The covid shutdown and resulting cap freeze really killed them. Kreider and Trouba got the salaries they got because the cap was supposed to go up by now, leaving plenty of room to keep a guy like Buch or sign/trade for another RW

So it will be a year of finding someone for that line until they have the cap space for Kane or another RW

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I think they have the potential to be better, now that they have Huberdeau and Weeger. I think they won that trade hands down.

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I think so too - I think that point total is more a function of a shitty division, but if any GM deserves credit for their off-season it's Treliving.

How do you lose two top 25 players in Gaudreau and Tkachuk and recover?

I think you could argue that Huberdeau, Kadri and Weegar > Gaudreau and Tkachuk

I am not sure about that and I'm also not sure it equates to points/standings, but I don't think its beyond a debate.

4 years 7.75 AAV with the Stars

Kept his team competitive. But I don't believe the Flames are better off without Gaudreau and Tkachuk.

I think it's complicated b/c you need to consider today and the future.

I do think they could be better in 2023.

Last year:
Gaudreau: 115 points
Huberdeau: 115 points

Huberdeau plays all specials units, Gaudreau only PP

Tkachuk: 104 points
Kadri: 87 points (71 games)

Kadri plays C so positional premium, but Tkachuk is 25 years old

So even if you say Gaudreau and Huberdeau are a wash and Tkachuk > Kadri

Weegar is the wild card. 44 points from the blue line with a true two-way D - a legit top pair D added to the deal.

I don't know if they are better off with these 3 players over Gaudreau and Tkachuk.

To see how that all works out this year. I agree you can't do a better job than the Calgary GM did this off season after losing 2 top 25 players. I know all of us would have made the trade if we were a Florida, but man they put a lot of eggs in the Tkatchuk basket. If last year turns out to be a career year then that trade may not work out so well. They gave up a lot in that deal.

I’ll bet he scores around 60 which would be in line with his career norms.

Is Weegar really that good? I will confess to not watching all that much of Florida is recent seasons.

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I’ll bet he scores around 60 which would be in line with his career norms. Is Weegar really that good? I will confess to not watching all that much of Florida is recent seasons.

Weegar is among the most underrated players in the league. He's a legit top pair defenseman, his underlying fancy stats are elite. This year he did it without Ekblad, further raising his profile.

I really like Tkachuk, but I think Calgary won that deal.

Weegar had some awful brain farts against Tampa

Legit all around first pairing guy.

Only to get snapped back to reality by November lol. One thing their goaltending has looked real good in camp. Always hard to tell in the pre season playing vs A or B squads but hope is there.

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I’ll bet he scores around 60 which would be in line with his career norms. Is Weegar really that good? I will confess to not watching all that much of Florida is recent seasons.

Kadri probably does regress from those numbers.

But Gaudreau and Tkachuk also put up career bests. With Tkachuk you can say he's entering his prime, but 21-22 was a significant increase off his career best (77 points to 104 points). Gaudreau went from 99 to 115 and Gaudreau is 29 years old - so still in his prime, but not probably ascending. So I feel like it probably evens out.

Kadri definitely won't have the benefit of playing on a PP with MacKinnon and Makar but he'll be on one with Huberdeau. Gaudreau is the one I'd fear regressing; Jenner and Laine are a big difference from who he's used to playing with.

Either way I will not be surprised by the outcome, so I don't have an opinion I feel strongly about, but I definitely think it's not open and shut for either side (short-term, long-term will depend on how Kadri ages - that contract is the riskiest part of this IMO)

but then again I'm probably just a hopeful bitter Devils fan lol. In all seriousness I do think he is the best candidate for regression amongst all of the guys involved in the Calgary coming and going carousel. 115 was a real spike for him at that age and you're right, Laine and Boone Jenner are not at the Lindholm level. the rest of them are flat out still surrounded by better talent.

model not as bullish on the Rangers, but they expect even more points from the Flames than jfresh.

They don't have a summary graphic, probably to prevent lifting their content, but to summarize:

1. TOR: 110.5 (.5?) points
2. CAL: 107.1 points
3. COL: 106.6
4. FLA: 105.9
5. MIN: 105.5

notables:

BOS: 103.8
CAR: 102.9
PIT: 100.3
WSH: 96.9
NYR: 95.4
NJD: 90.4
NYI: 89.1
OTT: 87.8
MTL: 73.8 (2nd in the Bedard sweepstakes, but if that means Michkov thumbs up from me)

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Boston 103? Not seeing that at all. I think them and Washington take a step back and one of them might miss the playoffs finally.

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Boston 103? Not seeing that at all. I think them and Washington take a step back and one of them might miss the playoffs finally.

Boston gets the nostalgia points for bringing Krejci back.

But their biggest issue IMO is their D and I believe a few players won't be available to start the season including Marchand and McAvoy I think.

WAS and PIT are two teams I keep trying to bury, but like Jason they keep crawling out of their grave. You can add the Bruins to that category too now I guess with their age.

PJ, has Kostin flamed out that badly? I mean the Rangers need a top-6 RW, but they don't need another underachieving Russian RW.

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In comment 15849810 Stu11 said: Quote: Boston 103? Not seeing that at all. I think them and Washington take a step back and one of them might miss the playoffs finally. Boston gets the nostalgia points for bringing Krejci back. But their biggest issue IMO is their D and I believe a few players won't be available to start the season including Marchand and McAvoy I think. WAS and PIT are two teams I keep trying to bury, but like Jason they keep crawling out of their grave. You can add the Bruins to that category too now I guess with their age.

Would be lovely of all three miss the playoffs

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PJ, has Kostin flamed out that badly? I mean the Rangers need a top-6 RW, but they don't need another underachieving Russian RW.

I'd sign Kostin to a two-way if he's interested based on skill and pedigree, but he's shown nothing at the NHL level.

He's 23 years old so its not out of the realm of possibility it just didn't click for him yet, but no way is he a top 6 forward on any team based on his NHL results so far.

The Devils have waived Andreas Johnsson. They needed to clear room for Holtz and Zetterlund so it was obvious that Johnsson was on his way out.

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The Devils have waived Andreas Johnsson. They needed to clear room for Holtz and Zetterlund so it was obvious that Johnsson was on his way out.

this is good for Holtz, he is still on his ELC right? So he could have been sent down, I don't think Zetterlund could so this IMO is more a statement that Holtz made the team (if it was in doubt)

Yea Holtz could have been sent down but he’s earned a spot. For him to succeed though he is going to have to play in the top 6 unless Mercer is the 3rd line center with Haula. I am concerned that Ruff will continue to play him in the bottom 6.

Glad the Johnson era is over. It wasn't a bad gamble as a salary dump, it just didn't work out in Jersey. Tuna seems have to have gone in a different direction this pre season in his walk year and I think he stays now till the deadline. Holtz I don't know I'm getting a little Ty Smith vibes with him. It's really time we start seeing some of those snipes in games that count. Nemec has made the decision real tough for them. I think the plan was to have him play much of the year in the AHL but he really looks comfortable out there. I still think they send him down and bring him up towards the end of the year without burning a year on his ELC.

is one of my favorite under the radar players.

I always like for him to do well.

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Glad the Johnson era is over. It wasn't a bad gamble as a salary dump, it just didn't work out in Jersey. Tuna seems have to have gone in a different direction this pre season in his walk year and I think he stays now till the deadline. Holtz I don't know I'm getting a little Ty Smith vibes with him. It's really time we start seeing some of those snipes in games that count. Nemec has made the decision real tough for them. I think the plan was to have him play much of the year in the AHL but he really looks comfortable out there. I still think they send him down and bring him up towards the end of the year without burning a year on his ELC.

I think it’s unfair to compare Holtz to Ty Smith. Holtz is only 20 years old and I believe that he can still be a good top 6 RW especially if he’s playing with Hughes.

I hope Tatar rebounds and if the Devils are out of the playoff hunt at the deadline they could get a decent pick for him. As for Nemec I think he’s destined for the AHL for now. It’s not because he hasn’t earned a spot but he’s blocked on the right side with Hamilton, Marino, and Severson on the right side. I would like to see the Devils move Severson at some point this season to make room for Nemec.

wrapped up the pre-season 0 - 6 - 2.

lol.

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wrapped up the pre-season 0 - 6 - 2. lol.

Islanders poked very solid against a Rangers team that looked disinterested. Romanov thumped a few Rangers and the Rangers did not like it. Have a feeling Islander fans are going to love this kid.

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In comment 15851348 pjcas18 said: Quote: wrapped up the pre-season 0 - 6 - 2. lol. Islanders poked very solid against a Rangers team that looked disinterested. Romanov thumped a few Rangers and the Rangers did not like it. Have a feeling Islander fans are going to love this kid.

He's a fun player to watch. So active. and that hip check.

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makes the Wild.

Rossi and Kaprizov is going to be fun - I hope Rossi is on the PP.

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coming out about Ian Cole. And with it hockey with a broad brush. Especially with the ongoing story with Hockey Canada.

My sense is these stories are awful, and the people who committed the acts and those who knew and didn't do anything should be appropriately punished, but what is probably going to happen is a response much greater - indicting everyone not just those involved - to make an example.

and it will make things worse - IMO.

by Lightning pending investigation.

Slafkovsky, Guhle and Xhekaj have won positions for the start of the season in Montreal.

on who to keep Hunt or Kravtsov. I read about it this morning. Hunt can be sent down, but Kravtsov cannot so it seems like an easy decision (not even considering the talent disparity)

Sounds like Blais to IR may buy them some time, but not in a good way necessarily, they need Blais to play.

Are your boys (are you?) interested in Mark Frieland? I think Pitt put him on waivers and I know your boys have first crack. He’s 26 years old, plays a physical game, and a huge fan favorite. I think he would fit nicely on your team. That way, all those young Dmen you have can get another year of experience in Laval.

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Are your boys (are you?) interested in Mark Frieland? I think Pitt put him on waivers and I know your boys have first crack. He’s 26 years old, plays a physical game, and a huge fan favorite. I think he would fit nicely on your team. That way, all those young Dmen you have can get another year of experience in Laval.

Friedman already cleared waivers.

I don't think he's a fit in MTL anyway.

this is a rebuilding year, as long as your expectations are low (for the team), my sense is have the top prospects get the NHL experience.

trade coming?

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The Canadiens have assigned defenseman Arber Xhekaj to the Laval Rocket.

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trade coming? Canadiens Montréal @CanadiensMTL The Canadiens have assigned defenseman Arber Xhekaj to the Laval Rocket.

sounds like a "paper" move and Xhekaj (pronounced Jack-eye for those who haven't seen him play in a game with an announcer) will stay in MTL and no other transaction is likely

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Well they still need to clear 3 contracts and $10.3M before adding Xhekaj, so Price and Byron (at least to LTIR was assumed) and that's still not probably not enough so one of Drouin, Monahan or Armia will need to be LTIR'd as well or a trade has to take place.

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my post was just quoting Lavoie

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In comment 15856701 pjcas18 said: Quote: In comment 15856638 Diversify yo bonds said: Quote: - Well they still need to clear 3 contracts and $10.3M before adding Xhekaj, so Price and Byron (at least to LTIR was assumed) and that's still not probably not enough so one of Drouin, Monahan or Armia will need to be LTIR'd as well or a trade has to take place. my post was just quoting Lavoie

thanks, I appreciate it, contracts/salary cap is not my strong suit

Simon Nemec made the team over Kevin Bahl. I know that it was discussed as a possibility but I am still surprised that they chose to start Nemec in the NHL.

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Simon Nemec made the team over Kevin Bahl. I know that it was discussed as a possibility but I am still surprised that they chose to start Nemec in the NHL.

I don't think the AHL offers him much as long as he's comfortable with the size of ice surface.

He's too good for the AHL IMO.

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games were played in Prague. The leadership of the NHL did not respect the position of our MFA that Russian players should not play. Until the current leaders of the NHL resign and the new apologize to our country, the NHL is no longer welcome in the ČR

Get his feet wet then send him down to save a year on his contract?

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Dominik Hasek @hasek_dominik · 2h During the weekend 2 @NHL games were played in Prague. The leadership of the NHL did not respect the position of our MFA that Russian players should not play. Until the current leaders of the NHL resign and the new apologize to our country, the NHL is no longer welcome in the ČR

Holding individual players responsible for their governments' actions is dumb and discriminatory.

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Dominik Hasek @hasek_dominik · 2h During the weekend 2 @NHL games were played in Prague. The leadership of the NHL did not respect the position of our MFA that Russian players should not play. Until the current leaders of the NHL resign and the new apologize to our country, the NHL is no longer welcome in the ČR

Does Hasek hold some kind of position in whatever organization is involved in making these games happen? Opinions about his opinion aside, is this just him speaking out, or does he actually have some authority to block the NHL from putting on events in the Czech Republic?

responsible for their governments and as far as I know Hasek is nothing special in the Czech Republic other than being an awesome former hockey player and Jaromir Jagr dropped the puck in the opening ceremony so maybe he doesn't speak for all Czechs.

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Quote: Islanders poked very solid against a Rangers team that looked disinterested. Romanov thumped a few Rangers and the Rangers did not like it. Have a feeling Islander fans are going to love this kid.

Actually Trotchek hit him first

which hopefully appeases people, placates victims, and also obviously they can fix the culture/rot that was there and just move on...


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Nemec made it for now over Bahl, but I read where it was more of a cap/roster flexibility move that allowed them to put Bernier on LTIR. The expectation is that Bahl should get called up pretty early and I'd expect Nemec to get sent down before a year of his ELC is burned.

on Nemec they should see how they and he start the season.

It would be bad to send him down after 9 games, if he plays well to save a year on the ELC, and then see the Devils in contention and want to bring him back up later in the year.

No one has a crystal ball, but I wouldn't send him down solely to save a year if he seems like he is a fit in the NHL and thriving.

to a 3-year extension.

Only Formenton (OTT) remains of RFAs

I wish I stayed up for the 3rd period of LAK vs LVG.

looked like a wild 3rd period.

A bunch of games tonight.

they sent Simon Nemec down to Utica.

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- Don’t be shocked if Bahl gets called up soon.

- If Nemec wasn’t called up now, he likely wouldn’t have been this year, since cap hit for him would be MUCH larger later on. Doing it now gives them max. cap flexibility for LTIR.

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they sent Simon Nemec down to Utica. Ryan Novozinsky @ryannovo62 · Follow The #NJDevils just confirmed a few things to me: - Don’t be shocked if Bahl gets called up soon. - If Nemec wasn’t called up now, he likely wouldn’t have been this year, since cap hit for him would be MUCH larger later on. Doing it now gives them max. cap flexibility for LTIR.

Yeah saw that. Makes sense. Nemec can spend much of the year in The A getting used to North American hockey and maybe we get a nice extended look at Bahl. One thing we sorely lack on D and the roster as a whole is his size. He had a solid camp and hopefully he can give us that physicality we lack as a 3rd pairing guy.

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Yeah saw that. Makes sense. Nemec can spend much of the year in The A getting used to North American hockey and maybe we get a nice extended look at Bahl. One thing we sorely lack on D and the roster as a whole is his size. He had a solid camp and hopefully he can give us that physicality we lack as a 3rd pairing guy.

Yeah I like having Bahl and Marino as the 3rd pairing. Brendan Smith is a solid 7th DMan but I was worried that Ruff was going to play him regularly on the 3rd pairing.

in MTL.

Habs with the GW with 17 seconds left in a seasaw game.

2 from Caufield (absolute wires)

that they let Jack Johnson join the Avs in watching then Stanley Cup get raised

Vatrano also had a goal. And Skjei had a goal for Carolina.

continues as one of the more under the radar truly underrated players in the league. That zone exit from Gibson in OT reminds me of Shesterkin and that top shelf backhand from Terry was filthy.

ANA is going to be a fun team to watch again and that game featured two of my favorite young players with Zegras vs Beniers.

Injury not considered serious though

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that they let Jack Johnson join the Avs in watching then Stanley Cup get raised

I really think coaches who understand people and motivation (even someone who is familiar with Maslow and the hierarchy of human needs) would promote something like this every chance they get. It shows you're human and emphasizes why you play this game - to win the cup.

It reminds me of those ESPN specials on various football players, they had one om Belichick - it was a two-part episode - I think the only one who got two parts and he was talking to some of his players after they scored a TD and the microphone was on and he said (paraphrasing) "celebrate - you work all week trying to come up with ways to find the end zone, when you get there it's ok to celebrate. you've earned it"

I think it's little things like that that make a difference to players. perception is Belichick is curmudgeon and he probably is, but promoting your players to celebrate the good plays/TD's IMO helps him connect in some way.

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continues as one of the more under the radar truly underrated players in the league. That zone exit from Gibson in OT reminds me of Shesterkin and that top shelf backhand from Terry was filthy. ANA is going to be a fun team to watch again and that game featured two of my favorite young players with Zegras vs Beniers.

Beniers is gonna be a star. That was a really good draft

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In comment 15859994 pjcas18 said: Quote: continues as one of the more under the radar truly underrated players in the league. That zone exit from Gibson in OT reminds me of Shesterkin and that top shelf backhand from Terry was filthy. ANA is going to be a fun team to watch again and that game featured two of my favorite young players with Zegras vs Beniers. Beniers is gonna be a star. That was a really good draft

Agree, and you cannot fault BUF for taking Powers. He's awesome too.

Many people say the 2023 draft is deeper than 2021 - which might be because there was no clear cut #1 in 2021, but 5 or 6 players all rated similarly.

at #3, and by all accounts after his freshman season at Michigan and WJC performance this Summer the Devs love Luke Hughes. That was a rare top 4 where I think all 4 teams probably go with the same pick regardless of how the order turned out.

Mattias Samuelsson signed a seven-year, $30 million contract with the Buffalo Sabres on Wednesday. It has an average annual value of $4.29 million.

out tonight for Devils opener

Some of those goals against Murray were lol-worthy.

Toronto struggling with goaltending is always hilarious to me.

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Some of those goals against Murray were lol-worthy. Toronto struggling with goaltending is always hilarious to me.

3 of the 4 were to the same spot. High glove side.

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While I am disappointed that he won't play I am glad that they are being safe with him. He has had trouble staying healthy so far in his career but if the Devils are going to have any chance of winning a playoff spot they need Nico to play at least 70 games.

Nico is hoping to make his season debut in their next game on Saturday.

I've had a real rough go if it lately, I won't get into it. Just got home. It's bad enough the Yanks are rained out, but the Devils opener is on fucking ESPN +?????
How the hell can you put a season opener on there?

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in MTL. Habs with the GW with 17 seconds left in a seasaw game. 2 from Caufield (absolute wires)

Yes it was a great game. The highlights looked awesome. I even saw Carey Price announced before the game….the ovation he got gave me chill bumps. Carey looked overwhelmed. Can’t believe your team started 4 rookies on defense. I guess you already have two vets out due to injury.

Again, my Leafs revert to another lousy goalie to replace a decent one in Soup Campbell. First FREDDIE, now Soup. Sigh….

But congrats to your boys. I trust my boys will rebound today v Capitals.

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I've had a real rough go if it lately, I won't get into it. Just got home. It's bad enough the Yanks are rained out, but the Devils opener is on fucking ESPN +????? How the hell can you put a season opener on there?

Brutal - there is a NHL Center Ice free preview if your provider carries it - though the Devils game may be blacked out for you (Bruins usually are here, but I don't care - I'm not a fan and we have NESN anyway).

I will refuse to sign up for ESPN+

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In comment 15860699 Stu11 said: Quote: I've had a real rough go if it lately, I won't get into it. Just got home. It's bad enough the Yanks are rained out, but the Devils opener is on fucking ESPN +????? How the hell can you put a season opener on there? Brutal - there is a NHL Center Ice free preview if your provider carries it - though the Devils game may be blacked out for you (Bruins usually are here, but I don't care - I'm not a fan and we have NESN anyway).

No it's ESPN+ exclusive

A real softie. Then Mac return with a softie of his own. At least I think so as usual my ESPN+ stream was buffering as usual

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I've had a real rough go if it lately, I won't get into it. Just got home. It's bad enough the Yanks are rained out, but the Devils opener is on fucking ESPN +????? How the hell can you put a season opener on there?

I'm sorry to hear buddy, I hope everything gets better for you soon.

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A real softie. Then Mac return with a softie of his own. At least I think so as usual my ESPN+ stream was buffering as usual

Things just never change do they? The Devils take a lead and 23 second later give up the tying goal on yet another soft goal given up. All that is left is for the Devils to lose on a shorthanded goal in the final minute.

Who would want Bruce Cassidy anyway?

Philly is a top contender for the #1 overall pick, and they smoke us. typical Devils effort. Awful goaltending, can't finish. Basically game 83 of last season. Thanks Jay. I appreciate the kind sentiments.

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Philly is a top contender for the #1 overall pick, and they smoke us. typical Devils effort. Awful goaltending, can't finish. Basically game 83 of last season. Thanks Jay. I appreciate the kind sentiments.

As we discussed months ago the Devils will hang onto Ruff too long wasting another year of Hughes, Hischier, Hamilton, etc careers. Then they will improve noticeably once Andrew Brunette takes over but they will be too far behind to catch up.

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In comment 15860868 Stu11 said: Quote: Philly is a top contender for the #1 overall pick, and they smoke us. typical Devils effort. Awful goaltending, can't finish. Basically game 83 of last season. Thanks Jay. I appreciate the kind sentiments. As we discussed months ago the Devils will hang onto Ruff too long wasting another year of Hughes, Hischier, Hamilton, etc careers. Then they will improve noticeably once Andrew Brunette takes over but they will be too far behind to catch up.

Exactly. We called it in June.

and forget hockey it's one game.

on the bright side if the Devils struggle it's a great draft to reward you for the struggle and it would mean Ruff is gone.

Is lottery luck lol. Thanks for the kind words PJ.

Ruff sucks, inexcusable to keep him.

Hiring him was stupid back in 2020. A boring retread who hasn't had success in forever.

Devils are/were in a perfect spot to take some risk and hire a younger guy instead of him.

I thought the St. Louis hire for MTL was weird but at least it's creative for a team that will probably suck for a couple years.

a weird hire?

Because he had no real coaching experience other than youth hockey? lol

I liked it because a: he played the game recently b: he was un-drafted and turned that into a wildly successful NHL career culminating with a HOF induction c: he won a cup and d: he's undersized and had to earn everything

I also think Gorton had been "grooming" him (offered him the Wolfpack HC job) and Hughes and he go back to the UVM days so it makes sense, but also agree it was a surprise when he was named interim HC.

they gave Hynes his 1st job and then promoted Naserdine as an interim. It was just a lousy hire period like you said. Ruff is an old retread who had his last success as an NHL HC a decade ago. Like Jay said we didn't need to go outside the box, there were 3 or 4 superb candidates Including Brunette who we hired as an asst. out there and they bring this schlub back. The Devils have this new beat writer Ryan Novozinsky for the Star Ledger. He is excellent. He really is holding the organization's feet to the fire. He hit Ruff hard last night in the postgame about Bratt only getting less than 13 minutes ES ice time when his CF was 30 and his CA was 4. I mean thats off the charts its like 88%. I'm sorry the talent is there. This is not a team that should finish 20+ points out of a playoff spot. He had Eric fucking Haula playing on the PP unit for christ sakes.

out 8 weeks for MTL.

Tough break, but it gets the kids some minutes.

Guhle (20), Harris (22), Xhekaj (21) all logged significant minutes on the blue line in game 1.

Guhle put up 22 min to lead the team, lol - it was his NHL debut - that is not going to hold up

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out 8 weeks for MTL. Tough break, but it gets the kids some minutes. Guhle (20), Harris (22), Xhekaj (21) all logged significant minutes on the blue line in game 1. Guhle put up 22 min to lead the team, lol - it was his NHL debut - that is not going to hold up

PJ I didn't catch that game at all how did Slaf look?

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Flashed a little, didn't stand out either way good or bad (which I view as a good thing).

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a weird hire? Because he had no real coaching experience other than youth hockey? lol I liked it because a: he played the game recently b: he was un-drafted and turned that into a wildly successful NHL career culminating with a HOF induction c: he won a cup and d: he's undersized and had to earn everything I also think Gorton had been "grooming" him (offered him the Wolfpack HC job) and Hughes and he go back to the UVM days so it makes sense, but also agree it was a surprise when he was named interim HC.

Yeah, that's why. Out of the box.

I liked it too. If he totally sucks, who cares? It's not like you cost the team a Cup. And I suspect he is more willing to give young guys longer leashes than others.

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they gave Hynes his 1st job and then promoted Naserdine as an interim. It was just a lousy hire period like you said. Ruff is an old retread who had his last success as an NHL HC a decade ago. Like Jay said we didn't need to go outside the box, there were 3 or 4 superb candidates Including Brunette who we hired as an asst. out there and they bring this schlub back. The Devils have this new beat writer Ryan Novozinsky for the Star Ledger. He is excellent. He really is holding the organization's feet to the fire. He hit Ruff hard last night in the postgame about Bratt only getting less than 13 minutes ES ice time when his CF was 30 and his CA was 4. I mean thats off the charts its like 88%. I'm sorry the talent is there. This is not a team that should finish 20+ points out of a playoff spot. He had Eric fucking Haula playing on the PP unit for christ sakes.

Yeah, you could have gone a number of different directions than Ruff. I would like to see a little more creativity in NHL hiring, but there were a number of retreads that were far superior to Ruff.

Ruff was scapegoated by a lot of fans because of the D, I mean it's not like a D position coach defines a system - not even for zone exits/breakout or anything. At best I think maybe they control D pairs or ice time. - IOW the D was Quinn and Gorton's fault more than Ruff.

But I never thought he was a good coach and NFW I'd hire him for my team.

I felt like he was in NY to basically function as associate head coach for Quinn who had never been an NHL head coach before (and only briefly even an assistant coach) and could use the mentorship.

I agree, the blame falls on the HC.

I actually felt the same way when people would give Judge a ton of praise and then blame Garrett for sucking. The HC isn't ignoring half the game, lol.

Ruff wasn't to blame for the defense. But I don't know what he did well here.

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I agree, the blame falls on the HC. I actually felt the same way when people would give Judge a ton of praise and then blame Garrett for sucking. The HC isn't ignoring half the game, lol. Ruff wasn't to blame for the defense. But I don't know what he did well here.

I 100% admit I don't know the role of the defense coach in the NHL. I believe the head coach defines the system (everything from breakout to neutral zone to forecheck schemes).

I think the PP coach comes up with the attack on the PP (though so many teams do the exact same thing lately it's hard to differentiate or identify what the PP coach even brings) but I could buy that.

Only thing I could come up with for the D coach is D pairings and TOI/line changes. but I'd love for someone to some day ask this question of someone who knows.

I remember watching something on MSG when Peter Laviolette was the Islanders Head Coach and they asked what he does during the game other than chew gum and look mad.

The show never gave a great answer, lol.

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Ruff was scapegoated by a lot of fans because of the D, I mean it's not like a D position coach defines a system - not even for zone exits/breakout or anything. At best I think maybe they control D pairs or ice time. - IOW the D was Quinn and Gorton's fault more than Ruff. But I never thought he was a good coach and NFW I'd hire him for my team. I felt like he was in NY to basically function as associate head coach for Quinn who had never been an NHL head coach before (and only briefly even an assistant coach) and could use the mentorship.

I still can't believe that the Devils passed on Gallant for Ruff. Then after the Devils added more talent last season the team actually got worse somehow and they decided to keep Ruff despite Cassidy and Trotz being available. I was a big fan of Tom Fitzgerald as the GM but after that decision I believe that he belongs on the hot seat.

gave up 25 shots to DET.

In the FIRST PERIOD. lol.

with his first as a Blue jacket

Zac Jones has a rough game in Minnesota and immediately gets yanked from the lineup for the supremely useless Libor Hajek

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Well you have to give Gallant credit for his patience - he gave Jones two whole games!

Palat Hischier Bratt
Tatar Hughes Mercer
Wood Haula Zetterlund
Sharangovich McLeod Holtz

Brendan Smith dressing once again over Bahl despite Smith having an absolutely awful first game. Holtz demoted to the 4th line after scoring in the previous game but Wood is moved up a line after throwing the entire team under the bus.

the siren.

Thank. God

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And they're only gonna get louder and louder

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Palat Hischier Bratt Tatar Hughes Mercer Wood Haula Zetterlund Sharangovich McLeod Holtz Brendan Smith dressing once again over Bahl despite Smith having an absolutely awful first game. Holtz demoted to the 4th line after scoring in the previous game but Wood is moved up a line after throwing the entire team under the bus.

Didn't see much of the game tonight, was mostly watching the end of Alabama then the Yanks. Holy shit balls did a blindfolded 4 year old could come up with those lines? Holtz and Sharengovich 4th liners? Jack a 2nd line C? Face palm.

What are your feelings on Tom Fitzgerald? I believe that it’s time for him to go as well. He hitched his future to Ruff and tried to blame injuries for their terrible record last season. Once again the goaltending appears to be an absolute mess for the 3rd year in a row. I hope that ownership quickly cleans house before the season is lost.

Devils in between Canadiens breaks.

Jack Hughes was the best player on the ice. he was absolutely robbed by Nedeljkovic at least twice.

I think they should fire Ruff and maybe Fitz and take a step back and re-tool before they waste more of Hughes. A lot of good pieces in place.

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Devils in between Canadiens breaks. Jack Hughes was the best player on the ice. he was absolutely robbed by Nedeljkovic at least twice. I think they should fire Ruff and maybe Fitz and take a step back and re-tool before they waste more of Hughes. A lot of good pieces in place.

I agree, plus they have two great pieces in Luke Hughes and Simon Nemec coming up at some point this season. I like how Montreal is just playing so many young players at once instead of using veterans that won't be on the team in a year. Why Ruff plays Brendan Smith over Kevin Bahl and Michael McLeod and Nathan Bastian over Jesper Boqvist and Fabian Zetterlund is beyond me.

spot for a franchise to be in IMO.

A coach and GM trying to hold on to their jobs, prioritizing short-term wins over long-term benefits of the franchise.

I get it, they have no choice for the most part, coaches especially, pro sports is such a "win now" business, it's rare for a coach to have the autonomy and confidence to always "do the right thing" and GM's start out with longer rope, but it doesn't last and unless they've won a cup they feel the pressure pretty quickly too.

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spot for a franchise to be in IMO. A coach and GM trying to hold on to their jobs, prioritizing short-term wins over long-term benefits of the franchise. I get it, they have no choice for the most part, coaches especially, pro sports is such a "win now" business, it's rare for a coach to have the autonomy and confidence to always "do the right thing" and GM's start out with longer rope, but it doesn't last and unless they've won a cup they feel the pressure pretty quickly too.

You're absolutely right, The Giants made the mistake of keeping Gettleman for another year and look at the mess he caused. Then at the deadline instead of trading away pieces like Engram, Bradberry etc. for more picks he was allowed to keep them in a sad, desperate attempt to win enough to keep his job.

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What are your feelings on Tom Fitzgerald? I believe that it’s time for him to go as well. He hitched his future to Ruff and tried to blame injuries for their terrible record last season. Once again the goaltending appears to be an absolute mess for the 3rd year in a row. I hope that ownership quickly cleans house before the season is lost.

Jay I'm very much in line with your thinking on Fitz. From a player acquisition standpoint till this off season I like what he did. This off season I don't think it was horrible but kind of meh. Don't love the Palat contract nor what he did with the goaltending. However you are 100% correct that he not only screwed the pooch not hiring Gallant and hiring Ruff then doubled down on keeping him this off season. If this thing continues to go south by December he needs to be shown the door with Ruff. I wonder if Marty gets a shot if Fitz is canned.

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Jay I'm very much in line with your thinking on Fitz. From a player acquisition standpoint till this off season I like what he did. This off season I don't think it was horrible but kind of meh. Don't love the Palat contract nor what he did with the goaltending. However you are 100% correct that he not only screwed the pooch not hiring Gallant and hiring Ruff then doubled down on keeping him this off season. If this thing continues to go south by December he needs to be shown the door with Ruff. I wonder if Marty gets a shot if Fitz is canned.

Marty is one of my favorite athletes of all time. I even began playing goalie in 5th grade because of him. With that said I do not think that would be an inspiring hire for the GM role. I would rather bring in a well respected up and coming type of exec for the GM job.

down 2-0 to the Pens on two Malkin goals, looked like a blowout coming.

Suzuki cuts the lead in half, then a TO and pulled goalie with 3 min left and Caufield ties it. Dach with the OT PP GW on a sweet pass from Monahan.

Habs 1st PP goal of the season.

I think the Habs will get blown out some this year. They have 3 D under 21, but they're going to be a fun team to watch

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In comment 15866480 Stu11 said: Quote: Jay I'm very much in line with your thinking on Fitz. From a player acquisition standpoint till this off season I like what he did. This off season I don't think it was horrible but kind of meh. Don't love the Palat contract nor what he did with the goaltending. However you are 100% correct that he not only screwed the pooch not hiring Gallant and hiring Ruff then doubled down on keeping him this off season. If this thing continues to go south by December he needs to be shown the door with Ruff. I wonder if Marty gets a shot if Fitz is canned. Marty is one of my favorite athletes of all time. I even began playing goalie in 5th grade because of him. With that said I do not think that would be an inspiring hire for the GM role. I would rather bring in a well respected up and coming type of exec for the GM job.

I agree. However there is a near mutiny among Devils fans at this point and I fear they'll look at it as a solid PR move to summon the glory days again. PJ knows this stunt all too well up in Montreal.

Brodeur be a bad hire?

I loved the way they built the Blues, just not sure how much was him.

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Brodeur be a bad hire? I loved the way they built the Blues, just not sure how much was him.

IIRC he didn't do much there but who really knows how much of an impact an assistant GM has. The Blues have clearly done a great job without him so I wouldn't feel comfortable naming him the GM.

Since re-joining the Devils Brodeur has worked as an executive vice president for business development.

Stutzle #1, Raymond #2, Laf #3, Schneider #21, Guhle #15.

Way too early for this obviously, lol.


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Stutzle #1, Raymond #2, Laf #3, Schneider #21, Guhle #15. Way too early for this obviously, lol. The Athletic - ( New Window )

I cannot put into words how impressed i am with Guhle.

I knew he was good, I did not know how good - and well rounded.

*very early* but I don't remember a player improving so much from year 1 to year 2 as Caufield.

Speaking of Cole - his shot is obviously what gets the most attention, so watch this one second clip on twitter, I am so jealous in how he generates so much power from a simple wrist shot, the puck seems like its propelled out of a cannon.
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would be huge for the Rangers

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great news, the language I read said "at least" $4M - good for everyone and it's honestly not enough.

escrow (which is stupid, but agreed to) by the end of this season, then it will just be a $1M increase for next year.

but 2024-2025 would see a big bump in that case (probably $10M is my guess).

The NHL revenues were half a billion more than projected this past season. The players are getting hosed, but when they decided to keep getting paid during COVID this is the deal with the devil they made.

have a retro jersey? lol

whats the promo campaign gonna be for that one: "Hey come watch us play in these unis, when last we wore these colors we were somehow even worse than we are now if you can believe that!"

The Sharks/seals sweater is terrific, the Wild/North Stars continues to be a winner, Panthers is so bad it's good.

Devils are wtf, who cares about the Colorado iteration?

Isles managed to make a bad jersey worse. Even the misguided milennials who like the fisherman hate these.

if the Red Wings, Blackhawks or Panthers are the worst. ESPN rated the Panthers #1.

I wonder if they pay a firm a ton of money to come up with these.

and the Karen and Vegas having retro jerseys is comical

I like the Kings.

the Karen should be "the Kraken"

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whats the promo campaign gonna be for that one: "Hey come watch us play in these unis, when last we wore these colors we were somehow even worse than we are now if you can believe that!"

Bring Don Cherry back to coach!

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if the Red Wings, Blackhawks or Panthers are the worst. ESPN rated the Panthers #1. I wonder if they pay a firm a ton of money to come up with these. and the Karen and Vegas having retro jerseys is comical I like the Kings.

The Sharks' jersey also sucks.

got halfway through their design and were told the Avs are using the Rockies logo and said "f-it, let's just throw the Devils logo on it"

big picture, who cares about retro jerseys, but if you're going to do it - do it well.

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I like the Kings.

Always loved the Rogie Vachon/ Marcel Dionne Kings unis. I always Chose them when I'd play my son on EA Sports NHL on the Ps4

Must be a tribute to the California Golden Seals

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got halfway through their design and were told the Avs are using the Rockies logo and said "f-it, let's just throw the Devils logo on it" big picture, who cares about retro jerseys, but if you're going to do it - do it well.

It looks more like the Kansas City Scouts jersey which the Devils franchise was briefly before they were the Colorado Rockies. Take a look at the logo of the Scouts and you will understand why they used their current logo lol.

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whats the promo campaign gonna be for that one: "Hey come watch us play in these unis, when last we wore these colors we were somehow even worse than we are now if you can believe that!"

I didn't think it could get worse than last years "Jersey" 3rd jersey but this is so much worse. It's like they told the designer to sum up Lindy Ruff's tenure here in a jersey design.

with his 1st.

Such a great play too, not a fluke or easy goal - he got a high hit from Josh Brown (6' 5" 230 pound journeyman defenseman), he looked like he was going to go after him but the the Habs created a TO and Slaf stole the puck and wired a wrister top shelf.

and then he called out Brown, lol.

Suzuki on the penalty shot was filthy

posts, but Arber Xhekaj first NHL fight tonight, basically ragdolls Zach Kassian - only posting b/c the rookie has been great so far and Kassian is such a douche
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Suzuki with a sweet PS goal. Hey Don't look now but the Devs win 2 in a row! Jack gets his first, Palat with 2 and Bratt with a pair of helpers.
Bratt now has 7 assists on the Devils 12 goals this season. The Devils advanced metrics 5v5 are off the charts. Jack is tied for the lead with 11 high danger chances created. The Devils are first in the NHL in eg/60 when Bratt is on the the ice. The Devils have out shot opponents 159-84 so far in 4 games. Only 4 games, so nothing to get carried away over, but they start finishing and get decent goaltending maybe the season doesn't have to be so shitty...

Hughes is going to break out, he's been all over it in the games I watched. One of them it took a sick save to stop him (I probably mentioned it if I wasn't too lazy to scroll up and check who it was against)

They need to stop dicking around and get him locked up long term pronto.

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They need to stop dicking around and get him locked up long term pronto.

Agree, what are they waiting for?

the Habs will be near the bottom of the standings, Jake Allen is a fine backup, but he's not a starter and Montembeau (the backup) is an AHL goalie (with upside).

but when you have a game where Suzuki, Caufield and Slafkovsky all score and Xhekaj drops the mitts it does at least put the plan in focus. Add in Guhle, Dach has looked really good, Monahan is healthy (worst case as trade bait), Harris is better than expected you can have some hope for the future. If Logan Mailloux can ever get past his crimes (in the court of public opinion now) the Habs have a lot of pieces in place.

Add in a Bedard or Mitchkov or Fantilli and they're on their way.

Isles road trip @TB and @FLA back to back. Going to quickly find out if this team is back to the final four type team they were for multiple years or whether last year is the new norm.

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too much talent on a veteran team, they will figure it out. I like that Wahlstrom seems to be having some early success. One of my favorite players from that draft class. Needs more TOI.

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Suzuki on the penalty shot was filthy

That was a beautiful goal.

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They need to stop dicking around and get him locked up long term pronto.

100% right, As most of us said they should have locked him up for 8 years when they had the chance. Now instead of 6.5-7 a year he will probably want 8.

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Suzuki on the penalty shot was filthy

I'm always amazed at how talented these guys are. That was beautiful.

Carey Price - no plans to retire
Arber Xhekaj (pronounced Jack-eye) nickname is wi-fi because when players saw his last name spelled they thought it was a joke and really someone's wi-fi password, lol

Quinn Hughes out a couple weeks
Panarin leads the NHL in points
Rasmus Dahlin is developing into a superstar
Jake Oettinger proving his playoffs were not a fluke
Shane Pinto (OTT) still a rookie, off to a PPG start
Nils Lundkvist fits right in on the point in DAL

ties the iron man streak tonight. Amazing.

FLA 4 - 2 - 1 (9 points, 0 goal diff)
CAL 5 - 1 (10 points, + 5 goal diff)

no conclusions, but both teams off to good starts as expected

Vegas the big early surprise (to me) (6 - 2, 12 points, and a +10 NHL leading goal differential)

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FLA 4 - 2 - 1 (9 points, 0 goal diff) CAL 5 - 1 (10 points, + 5 goal diff) no conclusions, but both teams off to good starts as expected Vegas the big early surprise (to me) (6 - 2, 12 points, and a +10 NHL leading goal differential)

I'm not surprised by the hot start for Vegas. Cassidy is a hell of a coach.

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In comment 15883183 pjcas18 said: Quote: FLA 4 - 2 - 1 (9 points, 0 goal diff) CAL 5 - 1 (10 points, + 5 goal diff) no conclusions, but both teams off to good starts as expected Vegas the big early surprise (to me) (6 - 2, 12 points, and a +10 NHL leading goal differential) I'm not surprised by the hot start for Vegas. Cassidy is a hell of a coach.

Once Lehner was out I thought they'd struggle in net.

Did you think the duo of Logan Thompson and Adin Hill was going to carry the team?

I thought both would take a step back this year. You kind of felt it was time for Vegas pay the piper for their win now cap decisions they had made. However Jay is right, Cassidy is an excellent coach and their young goaltending has come through. With Boston don't forget Marchant hasn't even played. Hall is playing some of his best hockey since his Hart days with 4 goals already.
Amazing stat with the Devils they are out shooting their opponents 2-1 every night. It's really unheard of for a team that's probably not gonna make the playoffs no? Bratt has 2 goals last night 12 points now I believe thats tied with Panarin for the league lead. Man if that guy gets 100 points that's gonna be a huge$$$ lost gamble for a Devs team that has been real proactive at locking up everyone else at below market value.

might be out for the year.

My fantasy team (and Andy in Halifax and other Sens fans) weep. budding star in OTT. They're loaded but he's one of their better less known players IMO. Put up 35 goals as a 22-year old last year. he was part of the US U18 WJC gold medal team (2017?) with Poehling, Quinn Hughes, Farabee, Brady Tkachuk - and Norris wasn't a passenger on that team, he was a contributor.

Injured his shoulder this weekend.

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Once Lehner was out I thought they'd struggle in net. Did you think the duo of Logan Thompson and Adin Hill was going to carry the team?

Logan Thompson looked good last season but Adin Hill is a mediocre backup at best.

when the Devils traded Ty Smith for John Marino but man am I happy to admit I was wrong. Marino has been excellent thus far while Ty Smith is still in the AHL.

just wish he was consistent. some plays he looks like Quinn Hughes and then others like John Marino.

Kaiden Guhle with his 1st goal tonight.

Marchand back early and immediately starts filling up the scoresheet - I hate him.

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just wish he was consistent. some plays he looks like Quinn Hughes and then others like John Marino. Kaiden Guhle with his 1st goal tonight. Marchand back early and immediately starts filling up the scoresheet - I hate him.

There are few athletes I hate as much as Marchand.

once they lost out on Gaudreau could be bottom dwellers, but so far Carter Hart looks like Carter Hart from a few years ago when he was a promising rookie.

I still don't think they're all that talented for position players, but Hart has been sparkling and a good goalie elevates all around them.

I know it's early - but maybe a goalie trade candidate if the Flyers decide to rebuild?

traded by CAR to VAN for a 5th round pick.

Seems like a good dude, but hasn't lived up to the potential yet, but still better than what VAN has right now.

Canucks blue line has been decimated.

I wish Joel Edmunson was healthy - great trade candidate from MTL.

Jack with a ppg midway through the 3rd on a nice feed from Bratt for the only goal. Those 2 have been playing together the past few with Palat hurt, especially on the PP. The Avs are one of the few teams that can make the Devs look slow at times. You guys were talking about Marino earlier in the day, he probably had his best game of the season. He was all over the place in his own zone. He was a big reason they held the Avs to 0-6 on the PP. The fire Ruff chants have died down lol.

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Great win.

The devils made the Isles look really slow, I'm scared how the Avs will make them look tonight

like Slafkovsky suffered a concussion the game he scored his 1st goal - hasn't played since and he called out Brown because of the high hit just before the goal so it makes sense.

Hopefully he's back soon, he was looking good.

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like Slafkovsky suffered a concussion the game he scored his 1st goal - hasn't played since and he called out Brown because of the high hit just before the goal so it makes sense. Hopefully he's back soon, he was looking good.

That stinks. Hopefully he's back soon I'd like to see him play a bit.

today, looking forward to that one.

Man when you watch them intensely for a whole game you see how skilled they are. Man Makar has a whole different gear.

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Man when you watch them intensely for a whole game you see how skilled they are. Man Makar has a whole different gear.

I think of him like McDavid but on the blue line. Every time he touches the puck it's like someone pressed turbo on the video game controller.

There was a thread on here a couple days ago about athletes you like to watch from other teams and I picked Kaprizov - as awesome as McDavid is, and he's in another world, Kaprizov is so fun. He thinks like Datsyuk, it's the creativity you just can't teach it's all IQ/instinct.

Obviously I love watching McDavid and Makar, but Kaprizov isn't as fast or great with his edge work as either, but man that IQ is crazy.

with a fun game in STL. It was almost like pond hockey but I absolutely love that MSL let's them play this way. the experience they are gaining is so valuable and will pay dividends.

They won 7 - 4, but goals from Suzuki, Caufield (2), Salfkovsky and a hatty from Dvorak.

Just a fun team to watch and I don't think the vibe would change in a loss and that's the key IMO to coaching a young team.

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ties the iron man streak tonight. Amazing.

I still would like to see the DNA results of Amanda Kessel. Can't believe those two are brother and sister.

They are leading the league in shots on goal AND least shots against by a wide margin. Early on the beef was the drastic differential in shots and chances was not resulting in goal differential. Well the past 3 games its been 14-4. They absolutely humiliated Columbus today 7-1 and out shot them 53-21. Now it's still very early and the schedule has been soft, but they do have impressive wins vs the Isles and Avs. They swing through Western Canada this week including the Alberta swing and then back home to play the Flames again so it will be interesting to see if they are for real now that the competition gets a little tougher.
Honestly the most impressive thing is not so much their fire power it is the way their D is limiting shots and chances. Nice to see Fabian Zeterlund net his 1st of the season today. He really has been buzzing. The one downer is that Holtz has been benched and the rare times he dresses lately its as a bottom 6 guy.

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They are leading the league in shots on goal AND least shots against by a wide margin. Early on the beef was the drastic differential in shots and chances was not resulting in goal differential. Well the past 3 games its been 14-4. They absolutely humiliated Columbus today 7-1 and out shot them 53-21. Now it's still very early and the schedule has been soft, but they do have impressive wins vs the Isles and Avs. They swing through Western Canada this week including the Alberta swing and then back home to play the Flames again so it will be interesting to see if they are for real now that the competition gets a little tougher. Honestly the most impressive thing is not so much their fire power it is the way their D is limiting shots and chances. Nice to see Fabian Zeterlund net his 1st of the season today. He really has been buzzing. The one downer is that Holtz has been benched and the rare times he dresses lately its as a bottom 6 guy.

funny how a week or 10 days changes everything. lol.

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funny how a week or 10 days changes everything. lol.

I know right? After 2 games Jay and I had everyone fired lol.

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Ruff should have been replaced by Brunette but now they can’t justify it obviously. It’s nice to see Vanecek string together two good games. Hopefully he can keep it up and Blackwood can turn it around because if they can be just league average then the devils are a lock for the playoffs as long as Hughes and Nico don’t miss significant time.

It still infuriates me that Zetterlund does not play every game. He is such a good bottom 6 guy and provides a spark every time he’s on the ice. Why Ruff is so set on playing Bastian and McLeod is beyond me. Boqvist should play over McLeod also.

Also, as you mentioned Holtz barely plays and when he does he’s usually on the 4th line. For Holtz to be effective he needs to be with a play driver like Hughes and Hischier. He is wasted with McLeod and Wood and they might as well send him down to the AHL so he can play.

The one exciting thing about them being in the playoff hunt is that Luke Hughes will join them for the final stretch once Michigan’s season ends. That’s a huge upgrade over Braden Smith.

I would still try to trade him to open a spot for Nemec and recoup a pick for a player they won’t re-sign. Marino has been surprisingly good for the Devils and he has been their best defenseman this season. This protects Nemec from having to be a top 4 guy right away.

Zetterlund needs to be in the lineup every night. There was a time when Boqvist served as a possibly a solid middle 6 guy, but those days are in the past with the young depth they have that simply has performed better than him. I disagree a little bit on Bastain though. I think he gives them the sand paper element they lack otherwise. He goes to the dirty spots and is an excellent screen on the PP unit. I agree on Severson. He's solid and he definitely has the sweetest stretch outlet pass on the team, but with L.Hughes and Nemec knocking on the door I think it may be time to deal him for needs elsewhere. The upgrade they have made to the defensive unit over the past 2 years is staggering. Our cap situation is still fine, but I just don't think the UFA dollars would be best spent on him this off season so its time to move on and not let him walk for nothing.

back, and not a second too soon.

Seth Jones breaks (?) thumb out 3 - 4 weeks for CHI

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back, and not a second too soon. Seth Jones breaks (?) thumb out 3 - 4 weeks for CHI

tough break (no pun intended) for Chicago. They have been surprisingly competitive so far. I don't think anyone thought Alex Stalock would be this good in goal. Vancouver has won a few in a row. They seem to be getting their sea legs after a horrific start. This week's Devs trip should display some damn interesting hockey- Vancouver, Edmonton and Calgary. All of those teams can probably skate right with the Devils.

do with Slafkovsky after his 9 games, he has fit in well, so hopefully they keep him up all year.

but sounds like Wright will be in the CHL before long...

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Friedman on TJMS: "It is very clear that unless Hakstol is forced to play Shane Wright more he's just not going to play very much in Seattle this year and so if I were the OHL I would be looking at this as an opportunity and the opportunity is we could have this kid back quickly"

What do you think Bratt is looking for on a long term deal now? I believe that $6.75-7 AAV on a 7-8 year deal would have been enough to sign him this past offseason.

Now that he proved last season was not a fluke his price tag is likely $8-8.5 AAV.

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INJURY NEWS: Jamie Drysdale suffered a torn labrum (left shoulder) during last Friday's game at Vegas and will be out of the lineup approximately 4-6 months.
https://nhl.com/ducks/news/dry

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What do you think Bratt is looking for on a long term deal now? I believe that $6.75-7 AAV on a 7-8 year deal would have been enough to sign him this past offseason. Now that he proved last season was not a fluke his price tag is likely $8-8.5 AAV.

I agree Jay he's getting north of 8 mill per at this point. According to Julie Robenhymer he turned down an 8 year deal this summer and I'm betting it was in the range you're talking about and he had no interest. He clearly wanted to bet on himself. With scoring even higher than last year right now in the league I think 100 points is definitely not out of the question if he stats healthy. They can start talking extension again January 1st. My feeling is the Devs best shot to get him locked up might be to blow him away in January with something like 8.5 aav for 8 years. A year and a half outside of UFA maybe they get him to sign. If it gets to the summer I think he plays it out and bets on himself again and looks for a Panarin type of deal.

on themselves, but it's risky and I think most, if they like where they are, prefer not to do it.

Bratt can let the season run out and become an RFA and still go with a one year deal to get to FA or even a 2 year bridge deal and then he's 27 when he hits FA and gets one big NHL contract.

If it were me, the real gamble on myself would have been taking the 8 years at 23 and feeling like I'll work my ass off to get that second contract at 31/32. by then who knows even 6 for 60 on top of the 8 years for 50+ basically is generational money.

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on themselves, but it's risky and I think most, if they like where they are, prefer not to do it. Bratt can let the season run out and become an RFA and still go with a one year deal to get to FA or even a 2 year bridge deal and then he's 27 when he hits FA and gets one big NHL contract. If it were me, the real gamble on myself would have been taking the 8 years at 23 and feeling like I'll work my ass off to get that second contract at 31/32. by then who knows even 6 for 60 on top of the 8 years for 50+ basically is generational money.

Yeah PJ I was thinking about that today. Obviously it's different if you break in later like a guy like Gaudreau and you get to UFA at like age 29, but if I was in Bratt's shoes and I reach UFA at around 25 I'd give serious thought to taking like a 3 year deal at like 25 mill and seeing where the market is again when you're like 28 or 29 still. Jack signed an 8/8 extension a year ago and young players are already surpassing it. 3 years from now it's gonna look bargain basement.

Palat (NJD) surgery out indefinitely

Connor Brown (WAS) ACL out for the year
I shed no tears for WAS but in addition to Brown the Caps are without Wilson, Backstrom, Oshie, Hagelin, and Carlson was just banged up too.

with as much passion as is humanly possible, but I am looking forward to the game tonight @ PIT.

How many more Bergeron vs Crosby match ups will we get?

Not many and probably the two most cerebral players of this era.

It's great to see this team finally completely healthy for a change especially Nico. The Devils are a much different team when Nico plays.

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Yeah the interesting thing is it wasn't one of their better efforts lately. They needed Mac to make the big stops especially early. The Edmonton game Thursday should be real entertaining.

Been high on them for a while. Their goaltending is still a major concern IMO.

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Been high on them for a while. Their goaltending is still a major concern IMO.

Yes goaltending is their achilles heel. Vanecek played well over his past two games and Blackwood was solid last night so hopefully that's a sign of things to come. It's way too early to decide either way.

However the D has been so improved- we're allowing by far the least amount of shots against per game. At least that takes the pressure of them a bit.

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However the D has been so improved- we're allowing by far the least amount of shots against per game. At least that takes the pressure of them a bit.

Marino has been a great addition. He's been their best defenseman this season.

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Definitely. He gives them a shutdown guy to go against the top fwds on the other team. We haven't had a guy like that in over a decade. He'll definitely have his hands full with Connor Mac tonight though.

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Definitely. He gives them a shutdown guy to go against the top fwds on the other team. We haven't had a guy like that in over a decade. He'll definitely have his hands full with Connor Mac tonight though.

This should be quite the offensive performance from both sides tonight. Both teams are extremely fast and talented but have question marks in net. Hopefully the Devils can keep Marino and/or Siegenthaler on the ice when McDavid is on.

But it's actually really important to get off to a good start in hockey. It seems like when you get off to a poor start it's really hard to make up the points as you go along with the charity point OTL system. It's kind of like you can't win the game in the first minute, but you sure can lose it.

but sometimes good starts are overrated, see Buffalo often.

lol.

I also don't think Vegas is sustainable either, but I agree with you that it sets the tone.

Of course there are anomalies like the Blues last in January to Stanley Cup in June.

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but sometimes good starts are overrated, see Buffalo often. lol. I also don't think Vegas is sustainable either, but I agree with you that it sets the tone. Of course there are anomalies like the Blues last in January to Stanley Cup in June.

Oh yeah totally. There's always anomalies and like you said a good start guarantee's you nothing but it just seems like it's tough to make up the points if you fall too far behind. I always think of the last time the Devs made the playoffs in '17. The Panthers got off to a lousy start and had the best record in the league from like Jan 1 on and still ended up falling point short of the playoffs.

eviscerates Auston Matthews here and I agree with Rupp
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Yeah that was pathetic by Mathews especially since he escalated it then backed away and let his teammates do the dirty work. Listen hockey history is littered with superstars like Gretzky who had linemates there to protect them. However Gretzky didn't run around starting scraps then back off and giggle while his teammates cleaned things up

Great up and down skating game. Devs down 3-1 in the 3rd Jay's favorite guy Wood scored his 2nd of the game early 3rd, then with under 4 to go Ryan Graves tied it with one Skinner definitely wants back. Then Bratt scored the eventual winner 7 seconds later right off the face-off. The fastest 2 goals in Devils history. Gotta give props to Vanacek. Right after he gave up the goal to make it 2-1 Blackwood got hurt(looks like his groin) in the middle of a power play. So Vanacek has to come in to face Draisaitl, Connor Mac and co in the middle of the PP. He gave up a quick one, but slammed the door shut the rest of the way. I have a feeling Mac is gonna be out awhile. It didn't look good, and we know how long groins and hips can linger for goalies

and the Devils played a good game so it's not why they won, but I always feel EDM is doing McDavid and Draisaitl a disservice by never truly addressing goalie.

I do think Campbell is an upgrade over their usual patchwork but we saw his second half last year.

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and the Devils played a good game so it's not why they won, but I always feel EDM is doing McDavid and Draisaitl a disservice by never truly addressing goalie. I do think Campbell is an upgrade over their usual patchwork but we saw his second half last year.

Yeah it was weird. Skinner made a bunch of quality stops, and really was the reason they were ahead going into the 3rd, but he did not have a good period. The Wood goal was a nice shot, but from that distance short side needs to be stopped, and the Graves goal simply can't go in.

controversial Mitchell Miller.

Mitchell was a 4th round pick of the Coyotes in 2020 and after the draft it was surfaced that as a 14-year old he abused and assaulted a developmentally disabled minority. The Coyotes rescinded his draft rights immediately when the story came out.

Bruins feel he has earned a shot at redemption.

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controversial Mitchell Miller. Mitchell was a 4th round pick of the Coyotes in 2020 and after the draft it was surfaced that as a 14-year old he abused and assaulted a developmentally disabled minority. The Coyotes rescinded his draft rights immediately when the story came out. Bruins feel he has earned a shot at redemption.

Boomer and the Point on Sirius NHL radio had a segment on this. Their point was the concept was punishment vs rehabilitation. They felt destroying a kid's livelihood over something he did at age 14 was just too punitive. Having done a little more research into it, the amount of time this abuse went on for and the depraved levels it reached along with the racial involvement really make it difficult to stomach. The Athletic had an article yesterday where the reporter had a history of dm'ing back and forth with the victims's Mom on social media. She allowed him to screenshot the dialogue and she does not feel there has been near the level of apology and contrition required to satisfy her.

I don't know this is a tough one. We're talking about 14 year olds and something that started in 2nd grade. So I think a lot of it is on Mitchell's parents. At that age that type of behavior is learned. However I can definitely see and respect the victim's Mom's points and frankly I don't think Mitchell has displayed real evidence of contrition other than the basic remorse of it potentially costing him his career. I hope he and the Bruins can make a true commitment towards using this as a teachable moment to bring to light this kind of behavior and how wrong it is. Color me dubious though.

hard for me to say too.

On one hand I feel like there is almost nothing you do at 14 years old that should warrant permanent removal from society or any specific career you may be qualified, but I also believe that even for actions done at 14 the person should show some type of remorse and contrition.

I try not to judge people (though I am guilty of it sometimes) and I believe in redemption, but I don't think it's up to me (or even the victim's mother or the court of public opinion). Not sure who gets to decide.

Habs have a similar situation in some ways with Logan Mailloux.

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Mike Zeisberger @Zeisberger · 15m Bettman said Miller is not eligible for the #nhl ... and is not sure he ever will be. Added the league was not consulted before #bruins signed him.

I can't see it being true. If it is that's crazy. I imagine this is the NHL doing damage control and letting the GM take the heat until it blows over

link below to NHL.com, Bettman pretty critical of the Bruins.

Logan Mailloux signed his ELC with the Habs this summer, I wonder if Bettman commented on Mailloux.
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That kid isn't playing in the NHL any time soon. Interesting why the hell would the Bruins not check with the league first?

tonight.

No clue how Seattle is winning, but they beat the Pens in a good game.

Cassidy has the VGK playing a great system - so good on D and they beat the habs 6 - 4, but this is maybe the 3rd game when the Habs had goals from Suzuki (2), Caufield, and Slafkovsky all in the game - it's fun to watch. Guhle had a couple assists too.

Bruins went down to the Leafs - after getting called out for lack of toughness, Matthews shows why no one cares and scores both Leafs goals.

the yotes showing signs of life beat the short-handed caps.

DAL is elite even withot Oettinger, I think Jason Robertson is eventually a hart candidate. Bold, but I love his game.

still more hockey left...

Penguins loss was their 7th in a row, VGK win was their 7th in a row.

I didn't realize the Pens have been so bad. What's going on there? I've noticed how well the Kraken were playing. I know St Louis has been a mess.

not sure.

this pass from Guhle to Slafkovsky is encouraging for a 20-year old D. I can't overstate how impressive Guhle is.

His transition to the NHL reminds me of how Charlie McAvoy just stepped on NHL ice and started playing top line 20+ min per game.
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I have a feeling they're not gonna regret taking Slaf over Wright at all. It's funny lottery night I felt the Devs just missed out on Wright. I think they did just miss out but it was Slaf not Wright! Have you watched him a lot? How is his physicality? That's really a big thing the Devils lack right now. They survived last night with Zetterlund's OT snipe but they were -26 in hits and Calgary really wore them down with their physical play the 2nd half of the game.

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I have a feeling they're not gonna regret taking Slaf over Wright at all. It's funny lottery night I felt the Devs just missed out on Wright. I think they did just miss out but it was Slaf not Wright! Have you watched him a lot? How is his physicality? That's really a big thing the Devils lack right now. They survived last night with Zetterlund's OT snipe but they were -26 in hits and Calgary really wore them down with their physical play the 2nd half of the game.

they persevered - I watched the end of that game, and there is a lot to be said for sweeping a road trip. They get the Flames at home next - they're a good team so it's not flukey wins.

Slafkovsky looks like a young Kovalchuk. His size, speed and skill is just insane for this age. And he is physical - not so much with hits yet, but on the cycle and one on one battles, and in the corners. I was expecting the Habs to draft Wright and I would have been fine with it if they did, I was unsure about Slafkovsky because there wasn't a lot of "tape" on him (were the olympics a fluke?), but I can see why it was such an easy decision for MTL and I feel better about it now.

And it's got nothing to do with Wright - it's more about Slafkovsky. Now who knows what kind of career he'll have, but it definitely makes more sense to me now.

I doubt MTL even had Wright 2nd or 3rd - since they were rumored to be shopping the pick to the lowest spot they could still get Slafkvosky and I read they felt the Devils would have taken him at 2 if MTL took Wright.

They were in love. Yeah Kovy was known for being a sniper, but he was a big strong skater that was real hard to knock off the puck. The Devs catch Calgary in a tough spot Tuesday. The Flames have to travel to the Island to play tomorrow night while the Devs travel home and wait till Tuesday. Nice win for the Wings tonight at MSG. I give them a lot of credit. They've been fighting injuries and have managed to hang in there and get nice wins.

off to a rough start, and while Tkachuk is off to a MUCH better start - he just got suspended 2 games for one of the dirtier plays I've seen in a long time - he slashed Jonathan Quick in the head.

based on "new information" and now have rescinded their contract with Mitchell Miller.

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Lol the "new information" was Bettman basically saying the guy isn't playing in the NHL.

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yeah, and the public backlash.

I'm glad the Bruins got bullied into dropping him.

I read that he didn't reach out to the victim to apologize?

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I'm glad the Bruins got bullied into dropping him. I read that he didn't reach out to the victim to apologize?

Until last week, via Instagram

Rem Pitlick is getting waived today. What's the deal? I can't help but think he'd be an upgrade over Ryan Carpenter and would help a team like the Rangers desperate for bottom-six scoring.

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Rem Pitlick is getting waived today. What's the deal? I can't help but think he'd be an upgrade over Ryan Carpenter and would help a team like the Rangers desperate for bottom-six scoring.

Grinder, kind of like a Dryden Hunt but more skill.

Habs have a logjam of mediocre to good forwards most with flaws.

they'll look to trade a couple of Monahan (who looks fantastic now that he's healthy), Hoffman, Dadanov (when he gets healthy again), Armia (swiss army knife, perfect to a contender), Drouin, Dvorak, maybe shop one or two more.

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Thanks. I'm always behind on these stories.

Caufield and Suzuki, but also Dach has looked fantastic (he's playing wing, not C, which I think is helpful for young players) and also on a wing with Suzuki and Caufield - which is also helpful.

back tonight.

Just what the Bruins need, to start getting healthy.

Slafkovsky suspended 2 games for a dangerous boarding hit a couple days ago vs DET. At first I thought it was just an aggressive play - penalty worthy but not suspension, but on replay it was definitely a dangerous hit. Matt Luff, the player he boarded is out 10 - 12 weeks.

I like the willingness for physicality but you dish out plays like that you put a target on your back.

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Just my opinion but:

1. I think because he's not playing C - some guys just get so "stuck in their own head" with the responsibilities center adds their whole game suffers.

2. Because he's playing with Suzuki and Caufield, who are both ridiculous play makers

3. Because he's talented and gaining confidence, some players need confidence so the talent can shine

4. He is in a system that players are comfortable playing in. - this cannot be underestimated.

Example: Last year at this time the Habs were talking about sending Caufield to Laval (AHL) - and they eventually did, he was so passive. No goals and one assist in the first 10 games. After 30 games he had 1 goal and 7 assists. Then Ducharme was fired and St. Louis took over, under MSL Caufield had 22 goals and 13 assists in 37 games.

so far this year Caufield has 8 goals and 7 assists in 15 games but more importantly he looks like a completely different player. He is aggressive on the forecheck, an incredible passer, even his skating has improved. At 21 years old he looks like a star in the making.

So, back to Dach, I don't think his low was ever as low as Caufield last year, and he had some pretty bad injuries, but I have never seen him as assertive with the puck as I do now since his days in juniors. And with his size he can become a Kreider type if he can use it to his advantage.

anyway, those are my observations. I know MSL was an unconventional hire, but man he gets the most out of his players and guys like Monahan who were brought in specifically to showcase and trade have actually made people a little sad because they say they don't want to leave. lol.

I guess he is what they mean when people talk about a coach who is good with developing young players.

I have rarely seen a player step on NHL ice and fit in so well as a top pair D as Kaiden Guhle. McAvoy comes to mind and not many others. Arber Xhekaj was a longshot - now he's a solid top 4 D. Jordan Harris spent 4 years at Northeastern, but he was raw and untested and he's a fixture on the blue line.

Even if they lose every game it's fun to watch because the effort is there, you can see the young talent, and you can see the improvement.

but it's a costly one as Vitek Vanecek left late in the 3rd with an injury likely a concussion. The Devils are down their top 2 goaltenders now and may have to rely on 22 year old Akira Schmid.

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but it's a costly one as Vitek Vanecek left late in the 3rd with an injury likely a concussion. The Devils are down their top 2 goaltenders now and may have to rely on 22 year old Akira Schmid.

Great game. Nico with 2 more including a tip in the game winner in OT. Devs had to kill off a penalty in OT and Schmid had some huge saves. Wood with his 6th,they really missed him last year. I know the goalie injuries are mounting but hopefully Vanacek misses no more than a week if it's a concussion. This team has a 2017 vibe to it when they had to use 4 or 5 goalies and they all stepped up to win games.

Nico has taken his game to a different level with his scoring. 16 points already this season with 2 straight gwg's.

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Great game. Nico with 2 more including a tip in the game winner in OT. Devs had to kill off a penalty in OT and Schmid had some huge saves. Wood with his 6th,they really missed him last year. I know the goalie injuries are mounting but hopefully Vanacek misses no more than a week if it's a concussion. This team has a 2017 vibe to it when they had to use 4 or 5 goalies and they all stepped up to win games.

It's great to see Nico healthy. He's having a career year thus far. As you know I haven't been a fan of Wood but I have to give him kudos for his good start. The 4th line looks much stronger with him on it. The Devils just need to get the 3rd line rolling because it's been a very slow start for them.

He has a very specific and at time limiting skill set. With his straight line speed and willingness to go into the dirty spots to score, he screams power fwd. He just doesn't have the balance on his skates to be a 30-40 goal guy. Like you said he does make that 4th line go. I don't worry about Sharengovich and Mercer at all they'll get going. They've been huge on a PK that is near the top of the league. Yegor was unlucky the other night he got 2 goals wiped out.

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He has a very specific and at time limiting skill set. With his straight line speed and willingness to go into the dirty spots to score, he screams power fwd. He just doesn't have the balance on his skates to be a 30-40 goal guy. Like you said he does make that 4th line go. I don't worry about Sharengovich and Mercer at all they'll get going. They've been huge on a PK that is near the top of the league. Yegor was unlucky the other night he got 2 goals wiped out.

I am not worried about either player either but it would be nice to see Sharangovich get some time with Hughes.

on fire with 8th win in a row.

McAvoy scores in return as B's win

Evander Kane had his wrist run over by a skate - out a while after getting closed up

PK Subban signs with ESPN, I think he'll be a good broadcaster

pj, thanks for the thoughtful response. I'm glad MSL is doing so well. I am sick of the revolving door of retreads and am hoping teams will be willing to take a bit more risk given MSL's success.

Guys like Dach are why I can't stand seeing fans give up on Kakko / Laf. And I think Kakko is looking the part this year.

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I'm always surprised these skate type injuries don't happen more frequently.

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pj, thanks for the thoughtful response. I'm glad MSL is doing so well. I am sick of the revolving door of retreads and am hoping teams will be willing to take a bit more risk given MSL's success. Guys like Dach are why I can't stand seeing fans give up on Kakko / Laf. And I think Kakko is looking the part this year.

I struggle with it too, sometimes I feel like I'm contradictory.

Because let's be honest, hockey busts happen. Often. Even in the 1st round and the top picks in the first round.

It's at least partly because these kids get drafted at 18 based on what they've done mostly playing against 18 year olds and younger - you know their lifetime to that point. Some small samples against older kids, men, or tournaments, etc. but for the most part their body of work is against their contemporaries in their 18 year old or younger bodies. Projecting what the finished product will be like is hard.

I look more for confidence, who wants to get the puck, who has a plan with something to do with the puck when they get it - IOW - they start to look comfortable or to use the cliche the game is slowing down for them.

It will happen - and it is often happening for stretches already.

I do think Lafreniere tries to do too much. A few times I saw him (not against DET last night but either the game before or earlier) tried to attack the o-zone 1 on 3 or 1 on 4. And I know what he was trying to do - he wanted to keep possession and allow his teammates to change - the kind of play a coach probably highlights in film review as an unsung, unselfish play not dumping it in - allowing your teammates to change - and keeping possession, but not by attacking the zone, maybe curl back and go into your own zone, use your D who didn't change, or in that situation maybe better off "take the L" and dumping it in, because you lose the puck in that situation (like he did) during a change so often the chaos results in an odd-man rush against good transition teams.

Anyway, I see a lot of positive with both players I think the points will come and I think the pressure of being a top pick in NY will wear off.

Or he/they will bust, lol. But definitely not ready, not even close, for either player and worst case I think they have established a nice floor as a top 6 forward. Maybe not what you want with pick #1 or 2, but not a bust (and I think both will cement themselves as all-star caliber players before it's all said and done - so far from the floor).

pj, yeah, agreed. I'd differentiate a bit between top three picks like Kakko and Laf and someone like Kravtsov (or even Andersson before him - and I'm not giving up on Kravtsov, but I wouldn't have been raging mad if they traded him) - a top three pick usually has a much higher ceiling, and it's pretty rare for those guys to not be pretty good NHLers even if they disappoint. For #1, Yakupov was the big bust last decade. RNH might be the next worst and he is still a pretty good player. Hischier looks to be turning it on after taking a step last year.

Nolan Patrick and Ryan Murray are probably the worst #2s the last decade.

I'd add, I think Kakko sucked his rookie year but you started to see some signs the past couple years. And then this season he actually looks good even if the points aren't quite there yet. Laf (who has more points but looks worse than Kakko so far this year IMO) is a really misunderstood player IMO. People bashing him for not having plus skills are totally wrong and not seeing the whole picture. I don't know if the upside is as high as I thought when they were drafted - but I think the floor on both players is much higher than NYR fans think, so you might as well see if you can get the upside.

We expect a lot out of these kids when they get drafted, especially at the top of the draft but we forget they're only 18 year olds playing against men. Sure some like Connor Mac, Syd the kid etc..are mature beyond their years physically. However many of them take 3-5 seasons to fully mature. We're seeing that with the Devs younger guys like Nico, Jack, Bratt etc... they're young but they've been in the league for 4 or 5 seasons already. I suspect guts like Kakko and Laf could easily mature in the next year or so and turn the corner.

and the McDavid/Matthews are the exception.

Damn, Zach Werenski out for the year, separated shoulder and torn labrum

Lafreniere for Hischier?

Especially for Kakko, but all three seem to play looser and more confidently as a trio

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It's funny, if you asked this when Lafreniere was a rookie and Hischier was in his 4th year - good rookie year, then 3 consecutive worse seasons, the Rangers give you a hard no. Hischier was injured and unproductive.

Now? Hischier is on fire and looks like an all-star, like what they expected he would be. The Devils give a hard no.

Plus Hischier is a C and C > W and not to mention Hischier is locked up long-term at what I think is very team friendly contract for a 1C or 2C - depending if he or Hughes are 1C.

If anything seeing players like Hischier, Kirby Dach, even someone like Shane Pinto - should be enough to suggest some patience is warranted.

as they celebrate some of their retired players

Salming was the first European player to have a real NHL career - he is the one who opened the door to Europeans in the NHL. Played from 1973-90, all but the last year with the Leafs

He was diagnosed with ALS earlier this year

It is Daryl Sittler, also a Hall of Famer, who is helping him and hugs him while crying

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What a sweet smooth powerful skater. The guy was a real pioneer. When you look at how European the league is now, he really got it all started. I remember he got into some horrific accident on the ice where maybe his face got cut by a skate? I remember the picture afterwards of something like 40 stitches.

video it was awesome.

Borje has an award named after him for the best Swedish born defenseman in the SHL. former Ranger Nils Lundkvist won it in 2021. The Salming Trophy. It's very prestigious - kind of like their Norris trophy.

The Devils are starting Schmid with Daws as the backup. I'm surprised that the Devils promoted Schmid first as Daws played better than Schmid last season in both the AHL and NHL plus he is noticeably more athletic.

He was a huge disappointment last season and got off to a slow start with 0 points in his first 5 games but he has 11 points over his last 10 games. It helps that he's been playing more with Hischier and Hughes.

#9 for the Devs. Jack was flying around all night, had a sweet snipe for the 2nd goal. Dougie Hamilton has been a force too. Schmid didn't have to make a ton of saves but was solid. The Rock was so joyous you could audibly hear them chanting "Sorry Lindy" no truth to the rumor Jay and I were leading the chants 😁
Great night of hockey. PJ I caught a chunk of the 3rd and OT Habs-Pens and man that was fun up and down hockey! Great OT winner by Hoffman. Can't wait to watch Habs-Devs Tuesday that should be fun hockey. Slaf is back for that one right?
Rangers lose a heartbreaker 2-1. Had a 5 minute pp in the final 8 minutes or so, had about 5 or 6 glorious chances but couldn't convert. This sport may be the most entertaining it's been in my lifetime. The up and down skill level is off the charts. The East is gonna be a nightly war for points.

is over so he should be back.

Will be cool to see Hughes and Caufield play against each other. Is this the first time in the NHL?

Their world juniors teams were some of the most talented and entertaining hockey teams I'd seen in that tournament.

out 3 - 4 weeks with an ankle

is Lindy Ruff took on here that Devils team is the most disciplined/bought into team I've seen the Canadiens play all year.

So many turnovers forced and the layers, holy shit I was having nightmares while I was awake. I don't think I've seen a team with such trust in their teammates with the layers like this since the '09-'13 Bruins teams under Julien that were so dominant offensively and defensively.

As good offensively as the Devils were tonight it was their defense and goaltending that set the tone in the 1st period. The Canadiens had the momentum off the start, but so many blocked shots, great saves, and cleaned up rebounds so not a lot of second chances. Then the Devils transition game and speed were just too much.

This is the least room I have seen MTL have all year.

nice turnaround from the 0 - 2 start. If this Devils team can stay healthy and the goaltending stays at this level they will be a contender and they have the youth to add for the playoffs.

The score wasn't quite indictive of the game as I thought the Habs had real zip in the 1st and Vanacek was real sharp. A little bit of puck luck and the Habs could have had a few more. When the Devs get rolling though they fly. Even had probably their sweetest goal of the night by Tuna wiped out by an offsides review. Have were way too leaky though too many giveaways. Jack has found his stride though. If you let the Devs skate it could be a rough night.

It's the upgrade on D and goaltending that have taken the Devs to the next level. Especially the goaltending. I saw a stat towards the end of last season that the Devs expected goals against was even or a little ahead of the Rangers yet they finished 30-40 points behind them because of Shesterkin while our goalies were pretty much 30th or below in every cat. Marino has been a rock. Along with adding Siegenthaler as a top 4 guy and Dougie as a #1 scoring type D to QB the PP. Tom Fitzgerald really has done a great job rebuilding the back line. It will be interesting to see what they do at the deadline if they're in it. I'd think they'd try to add some vet size/sand paper. Also what happens when Luke Hughes finishes his season at Michigan. Do they sign and throw him right in there? Even with no injuries right now he could take Smith's spot on the 3rd pairing.

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. Also what happens when Luke Hughes finishes his season at Michigan. Do they sign and throw him right in there? Even with no injuries right now he could take Smith's spot on the 3rd pairing.

Before the season started Luke Hughes said that this would be his final season in Michigan. If the Devils are still in the playoff hunt as seasons end I would be absolutely shocked if Luke Hughes doesn't sign his ELC to play in the NHL at the end of the season and into the playoffs. Imagine the offensive boost adding a player like him at the end of the season. Send Bahl back to the AHL and replace Smith in the lineup with Hughes.

I think that the Devils shouldn't make any moves at the deadline unless injuries arise. The one position I would suggest they look into is backup goaltending if Blackwood comes back and isn't playing well. Palat will be back later in the year and I expect Luke Hughes to join the team after Michigan's season ends. Also the Devils still have Nemec in the AHL.

What do you know about KHL goalie Dmitri Nikolayev. There has been discussion about him amongst Devils fan and the understanding is that he will be an UFA at the end of his KHL contract which expires after this season. He has been a star this season despite being just 22 years old. He currently sports a 1.63 GA/G and a .942 save %.

I hope the Devils go hard for him this offseason because he could be the next great Russian goaltender who is available for a cheap ELC.

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What do you know about KHL goalie Dmitri Nikolayev. There has been discussion about him amongst Devils fan and the understanding is that he will be an UFA at the end of his KHL contract which expires after this season. He has been a star this season despite being just 22 years old. He currently sports a 1.63 GA/G and a .942 save %. I hope the Devils go hard for him this offseason because he could be the next great Russian goaltender who is available for a cheap ELC.

I hadn't heard of him until this year.

Russian goalies are starting to get a lot more NHL consideration with this latest crop, Shesterkin, Sorokin, Samsonov, even Askarov, so it's not strange I hadn't heard of him - those guys dominated the international tournaments for years for Russia.

is playing for a great KHL team but his performance is still very impressive. Being that he is basically free to sign with any NHL team after the KHL season ends makes him even more exciting as an option. As he is subject to an ELC no team can obtain his services by outbidding others.

Nikolayev will likely focus on the team that gives him the best chance of immediate playing time so I hope that NJ is high on his list. I could see Toronto and Edmonton going hard for him.

I agree I'd love to see the Devs get him. Like PJ said you can't argue with the NHL success of Russian goalies lately.

Great game. Devs led 2-1 after 2 and I felt it was a battle of styles with the Leafs getting more puck possession and forcheck and the Devs attacking more with their speed off the rush. However the first 15 minutes of the 3rd was all Devs. They should have had an insurance goal or 2 but Murray stoned them and the Leafs got a softie short side with 2 minutes to go. The Devs dominated the puck in OT, after the Leafs finally took it Jack has a quick steal got stoned but Yegor cleaned up the rebound for the winner. Jack didn't score tonight but he played like a mad man forcing turnovers in the offensive zone to creat glorious chances. This is becoming no joke, the Devs are starting to create some space with other team's besides Boston of course who keeps rolling with yet another win tonight. Great to see Sharengovich get the winner, maybe that gets him going. There are talented teams in the league but it's hard to imagine putting out more talent than the Devs can at any time in 3 on 3 OT.

Sharangovich needs to get going but hopefully they play him with Hughes more as he seems to score at a much higher rate when he is playing with him.

I keep wondering what Luke Hughes must be thinking. I can't wait until he is added later in the year.

(Luke that is) projected #1 in a re-draft.

The group of skilled forwards they can put out in 3 on 3 OT with Luke & Dougie alternating as the one D guy...just insane

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Even if they decide to protect him as they did with Will Butcher and Ty Smith during their rookie seasons Luke could still have a big impact.

One of the most exciting things about this season is that this team has two potential defensive studs in Hughes and Nemec on the way.

shopping Karlsson


4 years after this at $11.5M per, good luck.

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shopping Karlsson 4 years after this at $11.5M per, good luck.

Yeah Karlsson is on one of the Dman heaters of all time. 22 points in 10 games but that contract woooof. Nobody who's any sort of contender can afford that under the cap even prorated.

#12 today. Ho hummer 5-1 vs the Sens. It was foot soldier day. McLeod, Bastain, Boqvist and Haula got his first as a Dev finally. Iove listening to Boomer and the point the midday show on Sirius NHL radio. They really give great views on the league. They have been all over the Devils, what they said yesterday really made sense. The Devil's treat the puck like it's their's. They simply don't give it up. Also they don't play to the score. They simply Play their game whether they are up 3 down 3 or tied.

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#12 today. Ho hummer 5-1 vs the Sens. It was foot soldier day. McLeod, Bastain, Boqvist and Haula got his first as a Dev finally. Iove listening to Boomer and the point the midday show on Sirius NHL radio. They really give great views on the league. They have been all over the Devils, what they said yesterday really made sense. The Devil's treat the puck like it's their's. They simply don't give it up. Also they don't play to the score. They simply Play their game whether they are up 3 down 3 or tied.

Another impressive win today. The Devils won 5-1 despite Hughes and Bratt no recording a point. It was great to see the bottom 6 carry the load today.

Schmid was good again today. If he continues to play well the Devils are going to have a tough decision to make when Blackwood is healthy.

that should be a goal in the Leafs game.

I hate that, if the net comes off, it sucks, maybe a penalty if it was in any way intentional, but no way that should count with the net off, way before the shot.

habs flyers, awesome ending (to regulation)

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habs flyers, awesome ending (to regulation)

Habs went down 2 - 0 in the first two min. tied it up to end the period. they took the lead in the 2nd and gave it back pretty quickly. 3 - 3 entering the 3rd.

PHI took the lead halfway through the 3rd and it stayed that way until the Habs pulled the goalie and it became a shooting gallery Suzuki with a bullet seam pass to Caufield who one-timed the GT goal with 1.9 seconds left.

Just a fun game for Hockey Fights Cancer night at the Bell.

Weirdest OT I've seen. Both teams top lines were spent from the end of the 3rd, so it seemed like they kept circling and there were very few chances - unusual for OT - Suzuki filthy in the shoot out.

Other than the Devils game (we have been hearing that a lot from all teams) the Habs have been a fun team to watch.

Wi-fi and Deslaurier dropped the mitts. He is becoming a fan favorite quickly.

start is ridiculous, along with the Devils and NGL I thought both were probably playoff teams, I didn't expect starts like this from either - especially BOS who played the beginning of the year without Marchand and McAvoy.

I got home right around the time it was ending they were talking about and replaying that last sequence with Caufield on NHL network. Caught the Ranger's game crazy ending. 0-0 till about 6 minutes to go. The Rangers scored and then got an empty netter with a minute left. Logan Couture scored with 15 seconds left then amazingly almost tipped in another one with 4 seconds left, Shesterkin had to make a sprawling save. Dallas smoked the Isles in the 3rd. They are such a weird franchise Dallas. It seems like every season is separate. One year they go to the cup finals, then they stink, now they're on fire again.

They are so young but they are playing great hockey. Every time I watch Caufield I am disappointed that the Devils were able to trade up for him. When he fell to the teens I was begging the Devils to move up to keep him with Hughes.

they had the top pick, so obviously not a contender and a flawed team, but they do have a lot of talent.

So, they probably need to accelerate the rebuild a little like the Rangers did only without the lottery luck.

It would be nice to add one of the big 3 from this coming draft.

And they need a franchise goalie. I like Primeau, but I wonder how many 7th round picks materialized into a legit franchise goalie.

I expect them to be active traders heading in to the 2023 draft.

Players like Josh Anderson, Joel Edmunsson, Joel Armia, David Savard, Jake Allen, Mike Hoffman, Christian Dvorak, Evegeni Dadonov, maybe even Drouin if he can get back on the ice, could all be dealt.

I now hope they don't deal Sean Monahan. Now healthy, he is looking more like the promising 24 year old who put up a ppg. I do think they'll trade him, but he is so good when healthy.

Crazy facts from last night- that was the first goal Syd has ever gotten in Chicago, also that's the first time the Pens won in Chicago since 2009. As it gets more than n the rear view mirror people will forget, but damn Chicago had a great run. Florida is pretty much NHL .500 at this point which is a huge disappointment for them. Honestly it's really easy, but that huge blockbuster trade really hasn't worked out well for either them or Calgary. Tkatchuk has been good but they gave up too much. Huberdeau has been demoted to the 3rd line he's been so bad. Weegar has been fine but Calgary has struggled.

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Crazy facts from last night- that was the first goal Syd has ever gotten in Chicago, also that's the first time the Pens won in Chicago since 2009. As it gets more than n the rear view mirror people will forget, but damn Chicago had a great run. Florida is pretty much NHL .500 at this point which is a huge disappointment for them. Honestly it's really easy, but that huge blockbuster trade really hasn't worked out well for either them or Calgary. Tkatchuk has been good but they gave up too much. Huberdeau has been demoted to the 3rd line he's been so bad. Weegar has been fine but Calgary has struggled.

As much credit as Mike Sullivan gets, I don't think it's enough. he's one of the short list of coaches I'd consider when starting a new team or doing a coaching search.

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As much credit as Mike Sullivan gets, I don't think it's enough. he's one of the short list of coaches I'd consider when starting a new team or doing a coaching search.

He's the best coach in the NHL IMO.

It seems like I might at least be getting 1 out of 2 so far. Washington has looked pretty ordinary.

Vanacek really had Connor Mac's # tonight. Absolutely stoned him 3 or 4 times including a wrap around that he looked dead to rights on. Jay I told you it was only a matter of time before Yegor heated up. That wrister is just too nasty to keep down. I know they'll be a backside to this but I just don't want it to ever end lol

As you said Stu his shot is too good. He is such a streaky player but when he’s hot he’s a potential 30 goal scorer.

The Devils finally sent Alexander Holtz and Kevin Bahl down to the AHL. Holtz needs to play every game.

fighting it out to see who will never lose again.

Those two should play each other, lol. I don't think they play until Christmas week and then they play @NJD twice that week (12/23 and 12/28)

Bruins a ridiculous + 40 goal differential through 19 games while picking up 34 out of 38 points, Devils, not far behind +29 while picking up 32 out of 38 possible points.


LVG not far behind their pace 31 points out of 40, but "just" + 22 GD to pace the West.

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The Devils finally sent Alexander Holtz and Kevin Bahl down to the AHL. Holtz needs to play every game.

Yeah it's a shame with both. They were in and out of the lineup the first 5 gams or so but once the Devs hot this heater there's no way barring injury that they were gonna change the lineup. They'll at least get to play every night now. Devs vs Toronto tomorrow night to try and get the franchise record.

Rielly to LTIR in TOR. Big loss. Not sure how severe his knee is, but he's out a min of 10 games now.

MTL and TOR aren't exactly friendly trade partners, but with Matheson back, the Habs could easily trade someone like David Savard or Joel Edmundson. Not that either replaces Rielly, they don't move the puck like him, but both are steady, affordable, veteran defensemen.

with his 1000th point last night. Made me think, he's a 1st ballot HOFer easy and I wondered how many HOFers are in the league right now.

Crosby
Malkin
Ovie
Bergeron
Stamkos?
Kucherov?
Vasilevskiy?
Kane
Toews
Kopitar?
McDavid
Matthews
Hedman
Karlsson?

Price? technically not retired
MAF?

anyone else? Anyone not belong? I know players like Chara will get in, but he's retired

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they had the top pick, so obviously not a contender and a flawed team, but they do have a lot of talent. So, they probably need to accelerate the rebuild a little like the Rangers did only without the lottery luck. It would be nice to add one of the big 3 from this coming draft. And they need a franchise goalie. I like Primeau, but I wonder how many 7th round picks materialized into a legit franchise goalie. I expect them to be active traders heading in to the 2023 draft. Players like Josh Anderson, Joel Edmunsson, Joel Armia, David Savard, Jake Allen, Mike Hoffman, Christian Dvorak, Evegeni Dadonov, maybe even Drouin if he can get back on the ice, could all be dealt. I now hope they don't deal Sean Monahan. Now healthy, he is looking more like the promising 24 year old who put up a ppg. I do think they'll trade him, but he is so good when healthy.

My view is the Devils did this closer to right than NYR. They signed Hughes to a long-term deal that looks cheap today. Habs should do the same with some of their young guys to long-term deals.

You're always taking risk somewhere. I'd rather take it with the younger guys than be in NYRs position praying Panarin or Zibanejad or Trochek don't fall off a cliff.

Separately, I was disappointed to see Shane Wright sent to the AHL. Wish he was getting more burn.

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with his 1000th point last night. Made me think, he's a 1st ballot HOFer easy and I wondered how many HOFers are in the league right now. Crosby Malkin Ovie Bergeron Stamkos? Kucherov? Vasilevskiy? Kane Toews Kopitar? McDavid Matthews Hedman Karlsson? Price? technically not retired MAF? anyone else? Anyone not belong? I know players like Chara will get in, but he's retired

I'd add MacKinnon and Makar. I think Kessel should make it too but not sure if he does?

I think Eichel and Adam Fox make it too.

And Ryan Reaves, obviously.

they are handling Wright. It's not like they're expected to contend, get the kid some playing time.

I think they want him to play in the Worlds, so getting him in better shape in the AHL as a "conditioning stint" may make sense - I think he could be back in the NHL (he needs to stay in the AHL 10 games) just in time for the Habs game - it will be fun if Wright plays.

That said, as of today (and this can obviously change) I'm really glad the habs took Slafkovsky. There is a lot to like about his game (even with playing on the 4th line).

of hockey tonight.

15 games.

Habs on a b2b off their worst game of the year. Still had a nice Caufield goal, but they got run out of the building by BUF. Another very poor start. They were down 2 - 0 in the first minute and 3 - 0 in the first 5.

Tough to come back from that.

Kakko scored last night, Laf got two assists.

Kakko had a great chance where the goalie made a tremendous save last night.

Caught the last few periods of the Rangers game last night. Rangers finally got hot 5v5 the 2nd and 3rd periods. Yeah Brett that was a crazy sequence where Peterson got caught out of the crease for what seemed like 3 or 4 seconds and then dive across and made the save on Kakko then the Kings come right down and tied it, only to have Zibanejad set up Kreider with a long pass off the end boards less than a minute later for the winner.

I actually missed the game and only saw the clip on Twitter. 10:30 start time is too late for me on a week night!

Re-draft today. I only was able to listen to the first 6 picks. It's funny we all thought it was a blah top of the draft that year, but turns out it was a great draft. Their top 6 was:
1.Makar
2.Heiskanen
3.Jason Robertson
4.Nico
5.Suzuki
6.Elias Pederson
I agree mostly. Obviously Makar is a no brainer. The shutdown D aspect of Heiskanen is interesting, though I think I'd go with either Nico or Robertson at 2 & 3 and the Heiskanen at 4. Either way the Stars made out like bandits at that draft huh?

a great draft.

If Josh Norris was healthy he's not far behind those guys, maybe Oettinger too.

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Re-draft today. I only was able to listen to the first 6 picks. It's funny we all thought it was a blah top of the draft that year, but turns out it was a great draft. Their top 6 was: 1.Makar 2.Heiskanen 3.Jason Robertson 4.Nico 5.Suzuki 6.Elias Pederson I agree mostly. Obviously Makar is a no brainer. The shutdown D aspect of Heiskanen is interesting, though I think I'd go with either Nico or Robertson at 2 & 3 and the Heiskanen at 4. Either way the Stars made out like bandits at that draft huh?

Gotta be a mistake. Lias Andersson should be #1.

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Re-draft today. I only was able to listen to the first 6 picks. It's funny we all thought it was a blah top of the draft that year, but turns out it was a great draft. Their top 6 was: 1.Makar 2.Heiskanen 3.Jason Robertson 4.Nico 5.Suzuki 6.Elias Pederson I agree mostly. Obviously Makar is a no brainer. The shutdown D aspect of Heiskanen is interesting, though I think I'd go with either Nico or Robertson at 2 & 3 and the Heiskanen at 4. Either way the Stars made out like bandits at that draft huh?

top pair D, top line wing, and franchise goalie - that's not a bad draft.

Devs finally drop one. Devs had 3 goals wiped out. The first one absolutely should have stood, the other 2 were probably the right calls. Devs fell behind 2-0 after 1, dominated the last 40 minutes but could only manage to get one to count. The 3rd dissalowed goal I guess was the right call, Haula kicked the puck in the opposite direction of the goal but it deflected of a leaf and in. I guess if you propel the puck forward the rulebook says you wipe it out.

streak also ended.

Bruins home streak however, still intact.

Thinking about the 2017 draft and this might be controversial because I know how good Makar is and Pettersson is and Hischier when healthy (even Heiskanen, Suzuki and often overlooked Robert Thomas), but I might put Jason Robertson first when it's all said and done.

I know he doesn't get the hype playing in DAL and not having the same team success some of the other players have, but if J-Rob was a center I'd be willing to have him at the top right now, but as a wing, I think he could still wind up the best player from this draft class.

I would probably take him 2 that draft and Nico 3. Thing is if you did a league wide draft right now Makar could easily be #2 behind Connor Mac so I'd have to take him #1 that draft.

today, easily it's Makar, I was saying if you revisit this down the road.

players like Robertson have to "prove it" a little more than someone like Makar just by nature of D vs F and because Makar is so good offensively he would be penciled in to D1 and PP1, Robertson (and forwards in general) have more to prove IMO before earning those opportunities.

passed away today, RIP.

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passed away today, RIP.

Wow didn't know he was that close to the end a few weeks ago in Toronto that night. Makes that moment all that much more special.