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Jordan Schultz @Schultz_Report Asked an AFC GM to identify a young OL with bona fide star potential. His answer? #Giants’ third-year man Andrew Thomas: “He’s matured a lot and become a more consistent player. He’s a pretty rare athlete; tons of power, good feet, heavy-handed guy. Really like him.” |
I'm glad Thomas is working out well, but there's not a GM in the NFL who would take Thomas over Herbert.
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It should of been Justin Herbert……. Go Terps
I'm glad Thomas is working out well, but there's not a GM in the NFL who would take Thomas over Herbert.
Hindsight is always 20/20, but Terps is probably correct. If you have the choice between an All Pro LT and and All Pro QB, where do you think you should go?
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In comment 15806989 JoeyBigBlue said:
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It should of been Justin Herbert……. Go Terps
I'm glad Thomas is working out well, but there's not a GM in the NFL who would take Thomas over Herbert.
Hindsight is always 20/20, but Terps is probably correct. If you have the choice between an All Pro LT and and All Pro QB, where do you think you should go?
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In comment 15806998 Jim in Tampa said:
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In comment 15806989 JoeyBigBlue said:
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It should of been Justin Herbert……. Go Terps
I'm glad Thomas is working out well, but there's not a GM in the NFL who would take Thomas over Herbert.
Hindsight is always 20/20, but Terps is probably correct. If you have the choice between an All Pro LT and and All Pro QB, where do you think you should go?
The All Pro LT makes the All Pro qb, not the other way around!
Neither makes the other. They certainly help each other.
Definitely should have been Herbert, so you’re correct
Forget Wirfs. And there's absolutely a difference in LT and RT. Silly when I see that mentioned nowadays. Look who's paid.
Thomas is a stud LT and I'm loving it.
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It should of been Justin Herbert……. Go Terps
Definitely should have been Herbert, so you’re correct
No rational fan from any other fanbase would say it was correct to take Thomas over Herbert knowing what we know right now. This is just straight up homerism. We can't just be happy/content we have a stud in the making, we need to make ridiculous claims.
Yes, in this case we are speaking in hindsight. Someone mocked Terps for saying we should have drafted Herbert....but sitting here right now, he was right!
The All Pro LT makes the All Pro qb, not the other way around!
I like Thomas a lot, and it's nice to have the tackle positions set for once, but I'd rather have Herbert than be here in QB hell.
A tackle is easier to find than a QB.
Yet, had he come out the year before DG takes him...
Remains to be seen. But this is something to keep in mind at the end of the season when everyone wants to tank for the sure fire guy. Play to win and pick where you pick cause nothing is a sure thing.
Most have not had negative comments - in fact all have said how good AT is.
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In comment 15806989 JoeyBigBlue said:
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It should of been Justin Herbert……. Go Terps
I'm glad Thomas is working out well, but there's not a GM in the NFL who would take Thomas over Herbert.
Hindsight is always 20/20, but Terps is probably correct. If you have the choice between an All Pro LT and and All Pro QB, where do you think you should go?
I hate these discussions so much....
explain to me how its guaranteed that Herbert in this offense would have the same success?
You cant so Please stop
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In comment 15806998 Jim in Tampa said:
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In comment 15806989 JoeyBigBlue said:
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It should of been Justin Herbert……. Go Terps
I'm glad Thomas is working out well, but there's not a GM in the NFL who would take Thomas over Herbert.
Hindsight is always 20/20, but Terps is probably correct. If you have the choice between an All Pro LT and and All Pro QB, where do you think you should go?
I hate these discussions so much....
explain to me how its guaranteed that Herbert in this offense would have the same success?
You cant so Please stop
When it is 20/20, it means he is/was successful - that is the point of 20/20. If you knew then what you know now, you could make an informed decision.
The question out of college was whether Herbert would be good. He turned out very good.
Does not meant Thomas isn't very good, he is.
What else is there to do?
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It should of been Justin Herbert……. Go Terps
I'm glad Thomas is working out well, but there's not a GM in the NFL who would take Thomas over Herbert.
This.
Not only that but DJ had just thrown 24 TD's as a rookie and looked pretty good with a competent offensive staff around him. Adding Thomas was the right move at the time to maximize DJ and Saquon's potential. Unfortunately, the Giants whiffed on the other 4 OL spots...
1st, Herbert was my choice for QB...him staying for his senior year killed me....but it has little to nothing to do with Thomas.....a trade down maybe. The Giants weren't drafting a QB.
Thomas was great pick! He will be a major building block. Enjoy that we have him.
Not bemoan that we don't have Herbert.....that is a loser mentality.
Love the one we are with
1st, Herbert was my choice for QB...him staying for his senior year killed me....but it has little to nothing to do with Thomas.....a trade down maybe. The Giants weren't drafting a QB.
Thomas was great pick! He will be a major building block. Enjoy that we have him.
Not bemoan that we don't have Herbert.....that is a loser mentality.
Love the one we are with
Come on George - reading comprehension....nobody said he was a bad pick. He obviously is an excellent pick. Nobody said that.
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Only on BBI.
1st, Herbert was my choice for QB...him staying for his senior year killed me....but it has little to nothing to do with Thomas.....a trade down maybe. The Giants weren't drafting a QB.
Thomas was great pick! He will be a major building block. Enjoy that we have him.
Not bemoan that we don't have Herbert.....that is a loser mentality.
Love the one we are with
Come on George - reading comprehension....nobody said he was a bad pick. He obviously is an excellent pick. Nobody said that.
LOTS of people said it half way through his Rookie year....
Yup. People lost their minds that we didn’t tank that game against the Skins
Hopefully his ankle and foot issues are finally behind him, and he has many healthy years in front of him.
When he’s been slowed by injuries, he’s a different player. To his credit he really gutted it out his rookie year, but he had some really rough games in there.
I remember watching Bobby Skinner's OLine reviews how 2 things stuck out to me regarding how much better he was than the rest of the line:
1) How many times Bobby would be going over a breakdown where 4 guys came completely free and hit Jones, yet Thomas had his guy blocked 15 yards from the play and was going against the best rusher
2) How many times he was in the middle of executing a run block and one of our other linemen rolled up on the back of his legs because they were in the wrong spot and out of control
This kid stays healthy and we have something.
I stand by what I said....a tribute thread for Thomas turns into....pick was a mistake.....on BBI.
Maybe, I am tired of "fans" constantly taking shots.
Looking at it now, Yes anyone would take Herbert over Thomas just for positional value but the one thing you'll never know is if Herbert would be as good as he is under Judge/Garrett? I think thats a key piece in that discussion. Every offensive player had their worst years under Judge/Garrett.
I was wrong about Thomas, he is the best LT of that draft and one of the best in the game. I thought Becton would be better but even if Becton was healthy I think Thomas is the better player and better pro. Thats the one thing that the fans dont really get to know is a players approach to the game. Thomas is a pro with talent and Becton is just a guy with talent that maybe learns to be a pro.
I stand by what I said....a tribute thread for Thomas turns into....pick was a mistake.....on BBI.
Maybe, I am tired of "fans" constantly taking shots.
Not a thread about a BBIer, or a QB.
It was a GREAT pick. The Giants had just drafted a QB that they liked.
FFS, enjoy the guys that are on the team...the season is just starting.
Louis Riddick on Andrew Thomas - ( New Window )
Some here wanted him for GM.
And he wanted Dwayne Haskins.
You can replace Go Terps there with "Everybody but JoeyBigBlue"
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It should of been Justin Herbert……. Go Terps
I'm glad Thomas is working out well, but there's not a GM in the NFL who would take Thomas over Herbert.
And there is not a GM who wouldn't take Tom Brady No. 1 overall, yet 160 or more players were picked before him. You make decisions based on the facts available at the time, not two or three years down the road, unless you have a time machine.
It not only turned out to be a fantastic self-own, but it distracted from the intended discussion of the OP.
It not only turned out to be a fantastic self-own, but it distracted from the intended discussion of the OP.
Maybe Terps wasn't the issue after all
It not only turned out to be a fantastic self-own, but it distracted from the intended discussion of the OP.
I was just coming here to say this. As I, and others, have said on this thread, it could have just been a celebration that we might have a franchise left tackle.
And I agree with others who say you need to judge decisions at the time they're made. But that's not what Joey was doing. He was saying that right now Terps is wrong about Herbert over Thomas, which is asinine. At this moment, Terps was completely right.
If you want to talk about decisions at the time, you can certainly be ok with what they did. I'm happy we have Andrew Thomas.
It not only turned out to be a fantastic self-own, but it distracted from the intended discussion of the OP.
I just pointed this out because it seems some Giants fans actively root against Thomas, because he was A) picked by Gettleman B) Justin Herbert should of been pick. It really irks me when we got exactly what he needed in the Thomas draft pick. It’s not his fault that Daniel Jones hasn’t worked out.