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Interesting tidbit on Andrew Thomas

Sean : 9/8/2022 7:33 pm
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Jordan Schultz
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Asked an AFC GM to identify a young OL with bona fide star potential. His answer? #Giants’ third-year man Andrew Thomas: “He’s matured a lot and become a more consistent player. He’s a pretty rare athlete; tons of power, good feet, heavy-handed guy. Really like him.”
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The key -  
section125 : 9/8/2022 7:40 pm : link
heavy hands, but light feet!
.  
arcarsenal : 9/8/2022 7:41 pm : link
This is the year for AT. I think we finally have our bookends.
& to think I wanted us to lose  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/8/2022 7:41 pm : link
that WFT game so we could end up taking Young. It turns out we got the better pro in all likelihood.
Andrew Thomas was the WRONG pick  
JoeyBigBlue : 9/8/2022 7:49 pm : link
It should of been Justin Herbert……. Go Terps
You need heavy hands  
Spiciest Memelord : 9/8/2022 7:49 pm : link
to catch more the Duke for TDs than your starting WRs.
….  
ryanmkeane : 9/8/2022 7:54 pm : link
I really think he can be the best left tackle in football in 2-3 years if he stays healthy
RE: Andrew Thomas was the WRONG pick  
Jim in Tampa : 9/8/2022 7:55 pm : link
In comment 15806989 JoeyBigBlue said:
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It should of been Justin Herbert……. Go Terps

I'm glad Thomas is working out well, but there's not a GM in the NFL who would take Thomas over Herbert.
RE: RE: Andrew Thomas was the WRONG pick  
section125 : 9/8/2022 8:00 pm : link
In comment 15806998 Jim in Tampa said:
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In comment 15806989 JoeyBigBlue said:


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It should of been Justin Herbert……. Go Terps


I'm glad Thomas is working out well, but there's not a GM in the NFL who would take Thomas over Herbert.


Hindsight is always 20/20, but Terps is probably correct. If you have the choice between an All Pro LT and and All Pro QB, where do you think you should go?
He was unbelievably good in  
mittenedman : 9/8/2022 8:06 pm : link
the preseason. His pass pro was effortless domination. It's a thing of beauty to watch.
RE: RE: RE: Andrew Thomas was the WRONG pick  
Jack Stroud : 9/8/2022 8:07 pm : link
In comment 15807001 section125 said:
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In comment 15806998 Jim in Tampa said:


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It should of been Justin Herbert……. Go Terps


I'm glad Thomas is working out well, but there's not a GM in the NFL who would take Thomas over Herbert.



Hindsight is always 20/20, but Terps is probably correct. If you have the choice between an All Pro LT and and All Pro QB, where do you think you should go?
The All Pro LT makes the All Pro qb, not the other way around!
RE: RE: RE: RE: Andrew Thomas was the WRONG pick  
section125 : 9/8/2022 8:10 pm : link
In comment 15807006 Jack Stroud said:
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In comment 15807001 section125 said:


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In comment 15806998 Jim in Tampa said:


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It should of been Justin Herbert……. Go Terps


I'm glad Thomas is working out well, but there's not a GM in the NFL who would take Thomas over Herbert.



Hindsight is always 20/20, but Terps is probably correct. If you have the choice between an All Pro LT and and All Pro QB, where do you think you should go?

The All Pro LT makes the All Pro qb, not the other way around!


Neither makes the other. They certainly help each other.
I can't think of a QB in the world who was "made" by a great tackle  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/8/2022 8:12 pm : link
Strongly disagree with that thought.
RE: Andrew Thomas was the WRONG pick  
OBJRoyal : 9/8/2022 8:13 pm : link
In comment 15806989 JoeyBigBlue said:
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It should of been Justin Herbert……. Go Terps


Definitely should have been Herbert, so you’re correct
Remember  
Toth029 : 9/8/2022 8:14 pm : link
The hoopla over Becton and Wills Jr.

Forget Wirfs. And there's absolutely a difference in LT and RT. Silly when I see that mentioned nowadays. Look who's paid.

Thomas is a stud LT and I'm loving it.
RE: RE: Andrew Thomas was the WRONG pick  
Mike from SI : 9/8/2022 8:17 pm : link
In comment 15807013 OBJRoyal said:
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In comment 15806989 JoeyBigBlue said:


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It should of been Justin Herbert……. Go Terps



Definitely should have been Herbert, so you’re correct


No rational fan from any other fanbase would say it was correct to take Thomas over Herbert knowing what we know right now. This is just straight up homerism. We can't just be happy/content we have a stud in the making, we need to make ridiculous claims.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/8/2022 8:18 pm : link
No DG defender, but come on...DJ had an impressive rookie season. If we took in April 2020, BBI would have exploded. Obviously hindsight is 20-20 & is Herbert Herbert if he's a Giant? I have serious doubts.
RE: ...  
Mike from SI : 9/8/2022 8:21 pm : link
In comment 15807017 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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No DG defender, but come on...DJ had an impressive rookie season. If we took in April 2020, BBI would have exploded. Obviously hindsight is 20-20 & is Herbert Herbert if he's a Giant? I have serious doubts.


Yes, in this case we are speaking in hindsight. Someone mocked Terps for saying we should have drafted Herbert....but sitting here right now, he was right!
RE: RE: RE: RE: Andrew Thomas was the WRONG pick  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 9/8/2022 8:28 pm : link
In comment 15807006 Jack Stroud said:
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The All Pro LT makes the All Pro qb, not the other way around!


I like Thomas a lot, and it's nice to have the tackle positions set for once, but I'd rather have Herbert than be here in QB hell.

A tackle is easier to find than a QB.
It’s great to say in Hindsight  
JoeyBigBlue : 9/8/2022 8:33 pm : link
But Justin Herbert wasn’t a can’t miss QB prospect. There’s a reason why he was taken after Burrow and Tua.
RE: It’s great to say in Hindsight  
section125 : 9/8/2022 8:37 pm : link
In comment 15807029 JoeyBigBlue said:
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But Justin Herbert wasn’t a can’t miss QB prospect. There’s a reason why he was taken after Burrow and Tua.


Yet, had he come out the year before DG takes him...
We've needed a great LT for years, second most important position  
BestFeature : 9/8/2022 8:45 pm : link
on the field. Yet all we see is negative comments. Sure Herbert was better pick, but you can play that game in almost every draft. Can't we be happy with a stud LT?
RE: & to think I wanted us to lose  
bradshaw44 : 9/8/2022 9:16 pm : link
In comment 15806981 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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that WFT game so we could end up taking Young. It turns out we got the better pro in all likelihood.


Remains to be seen. But this is something to keep in mind at the end of the season when everyone wants to tank for the sure fire guy. Play to win and pick where you pick cause nothing is a sure thing.
RE: We've needed a great LT for years, second most important position  
section125 : 9/8/2022 9:20 pm : link
In comment 15807037 BestFeature said:
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on the field. Yet all we see is negative comments. Sure Herbert was better pick, but you can play that game in almost every draft. Can't we be happy with a stud LT?


Most have not had negative comments - in fact all have said how good AT is.
RE: RE: RE: Andrew Thomas was the WRONG pick  
Rory : 9/8/2022 9:21 pm : link
In comment 15807001 section125 said:
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It should of been Justin Herbert……. Go Terps


I'm glad Thomas is working out well, but there's not a GM in the NFL who would take Thomas over Herbert.



Hindsight is always 20/20, but Terps is probably correct. If you have the choice between an All Pro LT and and All Pro QB, where do you think you should go?


I hate these discussions so much....

explain to me how its guaranteed that Herbert in this offense would have the same success?

You cant so Please stop
RE: RE: RE: RE: Andrew Thomas was the WRONG pick  
section125 : 9/8/2022 9:32 pm : link
In comment 15807067 Rory said:
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In comment 15806989 JoeyBigBlue said:


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It should of been Justin Herbert……. Go Terps


I'm glad Thomas is working out well, but there's not a GM in the NFL who would take Thomas over Herbert.



Hindsight is always 20/20, but Terps is probably correct. If you have the choice between an All Pro LT and and All Pro QB, where do you think you should go?



I hate these discussions so much....

explain to me how its guaranteed that Herbert in this offense would have the same success?

You cant so Please stop


When it is 20/20, it means he is/was successful - that is the point of 20/20. If you knew then what you know now, you could make an informed decision.
The question out of college was whether Herbert would be good. He turned out very good.
Does not meant Thomas isn't very good, he is.
Funny how a thread on our promising  
Dinger : 9/8/2022 9:50 pm : link
Left tackle turns in to a qb debate. And not sure it's easier to find a LT than it is a QB. We picked Pugh I'm the 1st Flowers in the 1st then made solder the highest paid LT in the league. None of them protected our qb and our running game suffered with all 3 as well. I'd take Herbert over Thomas now only because we have Neal;)
RE: Funny how a thread on our promising  
section125 : 9/8/2022 9:54 pm : link
In comment 15807094 Dinger said:
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Left tackle turns in to a qb debate. And not sure it's easier to find a LT than it is a QB. We picked Pugh I'm the 1st Flowers in the 1st then made solder the highest paid LT in the league. None of them protected our qb and our running game suffered with all 3 as well. I'd take Herbert over Thomas now only because we have Neal;)


What else is there to do?

RE: RE: Andrew Thomas was the WRONG pick  
Ned In Atlanta : 9/8/2022 11:18 pm : link
In comment 15806998 Jim in Tampa said:
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In comment 15806989 JoeyBigBlue said:


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It should of been Justin Herbert……. Go Terps


I'm glad Thomas is working out well, but there's not a GM in the NFL who would take Thomas over Herbert.


This.
As long as  
Joe Beckwith : 9/8/2022 11:58 pm : link
AT consistently protects the QB, and opens holes for our runners, and players 80% of the regular season in that manner, he was the right choice.
At least Thomas  
thrunthrublue : 9/9/2022 12:17 am : link
Seems to be healthier than his counter LT draftee…..Becton. Its all a crap shoot with the draft, creating a huge loser’s list of highly drafted busts, opposing a no name footnote inconsequential…..tom brady. Go figure…..
RE: It’s great to say in Hindsight  
Breeze_94 : 9/9/2022 12:56 am : link
In comment 15807029 JoeyBigBlue said:
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But Justin Herbert wasn’t a can’t miss QB prospect. There’s a reason why he was taken after Burrow and Tua.


Not only that but DJ had just thrown 24 TD's as a rookie and looked pretty good with a competent offensive staff around him. Adding Thomas was the right move at the time to maximize DJ and Saquon's potential. Unfortunately, the Giants whiffed on the other 4 OL spots...
OMG, a Andrew Thomas thread turns into a bad draft pick?!?  
George from PA : 9/9/2022 4:42 am : link
Only on BBI.

1st, Herbert was my choice for QB...him staying for his senior year killed me....but it has little to nothing to do with Thomas.....a trade down maybe. The Giants weren't drafting a QB.

Thomas was great pick! He will be a major building block. Enjoy that we have him.


Not bemoan that we don't have Herbert.....that is a loser mentality.

Love the one we are with
RE: OMG, a Andrew Thomas thread turns into a bad draft pick?!?  
section125 : 9/9/2022 5:54 am : link
In comment 15807225 George from PA said:
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Only on BBI.

1st, Herbert was my choice for QB...him staying for his senior year killed me....but it has little to nothing to do with Thomas.....a trade down maybe. The Giants weren't drafting a QB.

Thomas was great pick! He will be a major building block. Enjoy that we have him.


Not bemoan that we don't have Herbert.....that is a loser mentality.

Love the one we are with


Come on George - reading comprehension....nobody said he was a bad pick. He obviously is an excellent pick. Nobody said that.
RE: RE: OMG, a Andrew Thomas thread turns into a bad draft pick?!?  
ZogZerg : 9/9/2022 6:46 am : link
In comment 15807228 section125 said:
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Only on BBI.

1st, Herbert was my choice for QB...him staying for his senior year killed me....but it has little to nothing to do with Thomas.....a trade down maybe. The Giants weren't drafting a QB.

Thomas was great pick! He will be a major building block. Enjoy that we have him.


Not bemoan that we don't have Herbert.....that is a loser mentality.

Love the one we are with



Come on George - reading comprehension....nobody said he was a bad pick. He obviously is an excellent pick. Nobody said that.


LOTS of people said it half way through his Rookie year....
Still  
Toth029 : 9/9/2022 7:38 am : link
Remember how many were so mad it took the Giants out of the Chase Young sweepstakes.
RE: Still  
mfsd : 9/9/2022 7:43 am : link
In comment 15807236 Toth029 said:
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Remember how many were so mad it took the Giants out of the Chase Young sweepstakes.


Yup. People lost their minds that we didn’t tank that game against the Skins
 
christian : 9/9/2022 7:54 am : link
Thomas’s ceiling will be determined by his health. In the dozen or so games he’s been completely healthy, he’s looked the part of a top tier player.

Hopefully his ankle and foot issues are finally behind him, and he has many healthy years in front of him.

When he’s been slowed by injuries, he’s a different player. To his credit he really gutted it out his rookie year, but he had some really rough games in there.
Thomas was really good last year  
Biteymax22 : 9/9/2022 8:04 am : link
And the rest of the line/team being so terrible stopped him from getting a lot of credit.

I remember watching Bobby Skinner's OLine reviews how 2 things stuck out to me regarding how much better he was than the rest of the line:

1) How many times Bobby would be going over a breakdown where 4 guys came completely free and hit Jones, yet Thomas had his guy blocked 15 yards from the play and was going against the best rusher

2) How many times he was in the middle of executing a run block and one of our other linemen rolled up on the back of his legs because they were in the wrong spot and out of control


This kid stays healthy and we have something.
Section 125  
George from PA : 9/9/2022 8:23 am : link
You are the only one with a reasonable response.

I stand by what I said....a tribute thread for Thomas turns into....pick was a mistake.....on BBI.

Maybe, I am tired of "fans" constantly taking shots.
Taking Herbert over Tomas was the wrong move at the time  
Rudy5757 : 9/9/2022 8:24 am : link
We had just taken a QB the year before and he had a good rookie season. You dont over draft at that point.

Looking at it now, Yes anyone would take Herbert over Thomas just for positional value but the one thing you'll never know is if Herbert would be as good as he is under Judge/Garrett? I think thats a key piece in that discussion. Every offensive player had their worst years under Judge/Garrett.

I was wrong about Thomas, he is the best LT of that draft and one of the best in the game. I thought Becton would be better but even if Becton was healthy I think Thomas is the better player and better pro. Thats the one thing that the fans dont really get to know is a players approach to the game. Thomas is a pro with talent and Becton is just a guy with talent that maybe learns to be a pro.
He was never as bad as a rookie as reported  
sb from NYT Forum : 9/9/2022 8:31 am : link
…and anyone that knows OL play knew it. His technique and footwork were rock solid. He was just guessing wrong, probably from lousy coaching but also not having experience against NFL pass rushers.
RE: Section 125  
Brown_Hornet : 9/9/2022 8:36 am : link
In comment 15807255 George from PA said:
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You are the only one with a reasonable response.

I stand by what I said....a tribute thread for Thomas turns into....pick was a mistake.....on BBI.

Maybe, I am tired of "fans" constantly taking shots.
100%

Not a thread about a BBIer, or a QB.

It was a GREAT pick. The Giants had just drafted a QB that they liked.

FFS, enjoy the guys that are on the team...the season is just starting.
But he was the absolute worse Tackle taken in the draft  
Giants73 : 9/9/2022 8:36 am : link
Per Louis Riddick
Louis Riddick on Andrew Thomas - ( New Window )
RE: But he was the absolute worse Tackle taken in the draft  
Toth029 : 9/9/2022 8:37 am : link
In comment 15807266 Giants73 said:
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Per Louis Riddick Louis Riddick on Andrew Thomas - ( New Window )


Some here wanted him for GM.

And he wanted Dwayne Haskins.
RE: Andrew Thomas was the WRONG pick  
chick310 : 9/9/2022 8:39 am : link
In comment 15806989 JoeyBigBlue said:
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It should of been Justin Herbert……. Go Terps


You can replace Go Terps there with "Everybody but JoeyBigBlue"
RE: RE: Andrew Thomas was the WRONG pick  
k2tampa : 9/9/2022 8:52 am : link
In comment 15806998 Jim in Tampa said:
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In comment 15806989 JoeyBigBlue said:


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It should of been Justin Herbert……. Go Terps


I'm glad Thomas is working out well, but there's not a GM in the NFL who would take Thomas over Herbert.


And there is not a GM who wouldn't take Tom Brady No. 1 overall, yet 160 or more players were picked before him. You make decisions based on the facts available at the time, not two or three years down the road, unless you have a time machine.
nobody came here to actually say anything about Justin Herbert  
bigbluehoya : 9/9/2022 9:05 am : link
someone actually spent their time replying to the thread to take an unprovoked potshot at a poster who hasn't even participated in this discussion.

It not only turned out to be a fantastic self-own, but it distracted from the intended discussion of the OP.
RE: nobody came here to actually say anything about Justin Herbert  
Scooter185 : 9/9/2022 9:13 am : link
In comment 15807281 bigbluehoya said:
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someone actually spent their time replying to the thread to take an unprovoked potshot at a poster who hasn't even participated in this discussion.

It not only turned out to be a fantastic self-own, but it distracted from the intended discussion of the OP.


Maybe Terps wasn't the issue after all
RE: nobody came here to actually say anything about Justin Herbert  
Mike from SI : 9/9/2022 10:00 am : link
In comment 15807281 bigbluehoya said:
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someone actually spent their time replying to the thread to take an unprovoked potshot at a poster who hasn't even participated in this discussion.

It not only turned out to be a fantastic self-own, but it distracted from the intended discussion of the OP.


I was just coming here to say this. As I, and others, have said on this thread, it could have just been a celebration that we might have a franchise left tackle.

And I agree with others who say you need to judge decisions at the time they're made. But that's not what Joey was doing. He was saying that right now Terps is wrong about Herbert over Thomas, which is asinine. At this moment, Terps was completely right.

If you want to talk about decisions at the time, you can certainly be ok with what they did. I'm happy we have Andrew Thomas.
RE: nobody came here to actually say anything about Justin Herbert  
JoeyBigBlue : 9/9/2022 11:40 am : link
In comment 15807281 bigbluehoya said:
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someone actually spent their time replying to the thread to take an unprovoked potshot at a poster who hasn't even participated in this discussion.

It not only turned out to be a fantastic self-own, but it distracted from the intended discussion of the OP.



I just pointed this out because it seems some Giants fans actively root against Thomas, because he was A) picked by Gettleman B) Justin Herbert should of been pick. It really irks me when we got exactly what he needed in the Thomas draft pick. It’s not his fault that Daniel Jones hasn’t worked out.
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